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frogcroaks · 11 months ago
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How I deal with shapes
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@spadefish @kobothesmall So for shapes, the way I work with them is from studying how things break down individually, instead of following a broader ruleset for character design that you see a lot in tutorial posts (the triangle, square, circle theorem basically).
The way shapes work in humans is different from other animals (which also differ from each other), which is different from objects. The same shape can be used for different goals depending on what you're drawing. So there's no one size fits all, and especially in styles that have a bit more of realism going on, those shapes will behave differently than extremely cartoony styles.
Process wise, a lot of it ends up happening in my head than in the canvas, because I spent years dealing with this shape philosophy of "just bang your head for each thing you're drawing", which I understand is very tedious to some people, but I love studying individual things vs following tutorials because it teaches me 1. how that thing works in a context 2. gives me a new book to my visual library which I can pull from, which is often what happens! That, and a lot of it is just staring at references too. Still, I'll try to draw something up for this.
There are 2 ways to approach shape design. You either start with the shapes and then apply a concept to it, or you start with a concept and apply shapes to it. The former is much harder to do without practice (and also comes more in concept art which is rough, unfinished and meant to be done and redone dozens of times by design). So, I tend to do the latter: I start with a concept of what I want. This can be as simple as "I just want a character that's fat/standing" or more abstract like "I want a character that feels like a river/I want this to feel like an outburst".
Let's start with a concrete concept: I want a design that looks like a pacman frog, and just a standing pose that isn't too stiff.
I grab some pacman frog references, and sometimes if the pose is complex, I'll find references for that too. Pacman frogs are pretty pudgy, and their legs aren't that long compared to most frogs, even when unfolded, and their faces have a nice triangle-ish forehead with a nice shape for the mouth.
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The result is that i use large shapes for most of the body. Curves contrast with sharper lines, giving the sense of something geometric but still organic. The line of action here helps me pose these shapes in a way that gives some movement to something as simple as standing (and you'll gain a lot of mileage from learning how to rotate shapes! this is how you're able to position them in different ways and create more dynamic poses).
For something more abstract, like a crouched pose meant to be angry, I take some references when i can and start doing something like this:
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Note that these shapes seem weird because I'll have a naked fullbody wip below any clothed characters to have some anatomical guidance, but for actual final shapes and silhouette, what matters is the final elements, and that includes clothes! so i try to build shapes that emphasize this droopy, closed off feeling. This sketch isn't even that good really, there's plenty of errors, but I hope it gives an idea of whats going on.
I hope this weird rambly nonsense helped LOL
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dark-type-appreciator · 11 months ago
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Pinned post!! ^w^
Hi!! My name's Liam, I'm 17! I like playing games and drawing- im not very good at either tho dsjhfjksdhf- but I'll be posting abt it a lot!
ive got autism n adhd, so im pretty forgetful and might not understand things right away- x_x im sorry!! please just tell me if I mess something up
I love dark types so much, so i know a lot about them! i'm not an expert but if you have any questions about them I can probably answer!! ^w^
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//(top 2 are by @/userboxranger, bottom two are by me!)
um, if we're mutuals plz tag your posts with bug types if you dont already!! I have a really bad phobia of them, and I dont wanna see them at all TwT
No DNI rlly, just be nice to people!!
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starskipper · 3 months ago
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Still working on making this blog
but its going to have tips on things like padding tucking packing binding making or buying breast forms packers binders and things like that
i want to make it clear this is for anyone who wants to read or try it and you dont have to be a certain label to read or try any of this its open for everyone
originally i would just send anons to our trans experience type blogs but i want a place to actually organize this stuff and make it a little more easy to find
all of that being said i wont really have a dni people dont really listen to those things anyway and i dont see the point in tryin to gatekeep this blog because it is just about spreading information
the way ill handle anything hurtful is if i get a reblog or ask or anon or reply thats harmful ill just delete and block i dont plan on arguing or making a public blocklist
lastly im not equip to handle heavy vents i can give advice about the topic of this blog and things related to it but if it gets to complicated or if the questions get to me i wont answer them i can only handle so much
ok i lied when i typed lastly theres more
im not a professional as you can tell by my superior grammar skills and how wonderfully ive structured all of this my sentences are going to be a mess and there might be typos every now and then but i am going to keep the tags coherent so people can find posts they want to see and i tend to bounce between using fancy words and sounding pretentious as hell to using slang its still me i just talk like that i guess i want to make it clear im not mad i dont touch my blogs when im mad so if im here im not mad its just how i come across over text so dont worry and also sorry about that if the tone thing bothers anyone youre free to split no hard feelings
and this isnt my main blog and im not linking my main just cause i want them to be separate so if you see this and recognize be based on how i talk dont snitch ok
one more thing im struggling to sort of summarize the tucking padding binding packing etc into one word i dont want to call it just trans tips because more people use these things like intersex non-binary genderqueer gender-fluid crossdressers cosplayers special effects makeup artists and drag performers and so so many more people plus some people just do it and dont even call it or themselves anything so im having a hard time picking just one term if anyone has ideas that would help
now to explain the tagging system: each type of whatever will be under its own tag so therell be a tucking, padding, binding, and packing tag each and also adhesives ill add more to this list when i think of it
again this is a huge work in progress so i might rework the intro at some point this is sort of a first draft
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