#<- in English and ASL

[thebad-lydrawn-sanses]

Nightmare: i'm gonna break the fucking door down if you come back tomorrow by the way

Dust: (in ASL) fuck you

[benevolenterrancy]

au where Li Yu teaches Prince Jing modern CSL, based on @skygemspeaks's au over here because after seeing how eagerly Li Yu takes to teaching him pinyin in bk4 I think they both deserve it!

[mipmoth]

INGO TELL EM

[cup-noodle]

the cruelest thing about the world is that there's so many languages and a girl can't learn all of them

[writersmorgue]

Us Americans do not realize how unusual it is to only speak one language, and I'm curious to know other bilingual/polyglot peeps casually hang out here. Capping it at 3 is probably too low but, alas, I only have so many bubbles.

American here refers to if you identify as American.

Fluent here refers to if you can effectively intake the language (in whatever form is applicable) and understand it with ease, as well as produce it in a similar fashion and native speakers/signers understand you.

[codfiish]

this is so stupid but i think the “americans assuming everyone else is american” post that’s pissed me off the most, or at least the one that’s stuck with me the most, is one demanding that everyone who reads it learns asl. like what do u think the a stands for and do u understand how sign languages actually work . answer quickly

[sonic-takeover]

Shadow?! YOU KNOW OTHER LANGUAGES?! Spanish? French?

I realize I didn't answer this question. Yes. I speak English, Spanish, and French thanks to Rouge. I also sign.

[casscainmainly]

Of that ASL is just another difficult, frustrating thing being pushed on her, that people get upset with when she doesn’t want to engage with learning, because they *trying to be accommodating* (decided on their own it would be better)

Sorry it took so long to respond anon but yeah, if canon Cass was asked to learn ASL I honestly don't think she would? It really depends but she clings to English a lot, English is symbolic to her of her triumph against David Cain. Also, writing is extremely important to her, and ASL has no written form (ASL gloss and pictorial representations are imperfect at best). ASL uses facial expressions as grammar, given Cass' experience with body language it might be in some ways harder for her to learn.

Honestly a story exploring someone thinking ASL would be good for Cass, but it backfiring and Cass being extremely frustrated with them, would be QUITE compelling. Also, ASL is extremely tied to Deaf culture and history. It isn't just a neutral language, it's one that has been discriminated against by the hearing community and forms a large part of the American Deaf identity. Thinking ASL would just be an 'easier' language for Cass to learn is a misunderstanding of both Cass' disability and of ASL itself.

[uwmspeccoll]

Milestone Monday

April 15th is National American Sign Language (ASL) Day, observed annually to celebrate the ASL community and its contributions to inclusivity, and to encourage folks to learn the language. Regarded as a natural language, sign language has likely existed for as long as there has been a need to communicate, however, the emergence of ASL is largely credited to Thomas Gallaudet (1787-1851) founder of the American School for the Deaf. Uniting deaf children from the western hemisphere the American School for the Deaf was fertile soil for language contact, developing ASL from French Sign Language, village sign languages, and home sign systems. Today, more than a half-million people throughout the United States use ASL to communicate as their native language. 

In recognition of the day, we’re sharing another book from our Historical Curriculum Collection the Basic Pre-School Signed English Dictionary published by Gallaudet College Press in 1973. Signed English features drawn signs with written instructions to represent 975 words most frequently used by and with pre-school children. The editors also include sign markers and the American Manual Alphabet to be used in conjunction with the vocabulary, encouraging a language that is adaptable and offers a more complete English model of communication. 

Signed English was edited in part by Harry Bornstein and Karen Saulnier who worked on several signing books for young readers throughout the 70s, 80s, and 90s, and illustrated by Jack Fennell and Ann Silver. 

Read other Milestone Monday posts here! 

– Jenna, Special Collections Graduate Intern 

[mumblesplash]

just how it is

[tesl8n]

I wish I actually spoke French. Looking up the text of Le Petit Prince in its original French for the sake of trying to translate a French quote written in phonetics in the English translation of a Japanese novel, and once upon a time I absolutely would have gotten sucked into translating the whole book. I just don't remember enough from high school :(

[pinemelon08]

Today’s skeletons 10/8/24

Yall get a classic and a carrot 🥕

[pomeraniandancer]

How the fuck does this even happen...

There are a number of languages you can search for works in on AO3, including Eald Eanglisc of all things, but the one language on there that really throws me for a loop is...American Sign Language.

Like, is there even a video option on AO3 for this to be possible?

I once picked a really big fanfic collection to search for ASL fics in and the only one that categorized as ASL was *written* in English. No videofile too be seen.

The most you can do in ASL in writing is write English words with ASL syntax. But that's still not ASL. ASL does not have a written alphabet or syllabary.

Genuinely bewildered about how this came about. Can people just post something and write in an "other" language and AO3 just adds that language to the list of languages they have fics written in?

I can't think of any other way that this might've happened, and as much as I adore AO3, this is pretty problematic.

[bludhavens-finest]

How many languages do you know Mr Nightwing?

English, Spanish, French, German, Portuguese, Russian, Italian, Farsi, Japanese, Arabic, ASL, and I still know some Balkan Romani

[owy-exe]

Why did I create two characters who speak the languages I need to learn…

[soulless-bex]

headcanon that percy is smart in a sense that he picks up language really easily, like he just learns them through exposure and stupidly fast, but since he’s dyslexic and has a hard time writing/reading and that’s all schools care about, he never learned the value of his skill