#[discourse talk]

[zackbuildit]

important.

[cloudboundcritters]

"we need more weird queers!!"

you start parroting TERF talking points the milisecond someone says they are a lesboy or gaygirl

you cry when mspec lesbians/gays exist

you refuse to use neopronouns or it/its, even when those are a persons only set of pronouns

you expect a-specs to experience attraction in some way (yes, that includes platonic attraction)

you exclude intersex people

you can't even accept furries.

[canine-t33th]

I should probably block the shipcourse tags shouldnt I.

I don’t care if you consider yourself Proship or if you consider yourself Antiship. But if you call yourself either of those with your full chest(esp in your pinned or ur bio) I will block you since you’re probably into the Discourse™️ and I get very stressed by discourse. Especially this specific discourse where I think both sides are flawed and therefore I remain very neutral

[tidal-chaos]

tumblr and twitter discourse is insane. every month there's a new hot debate that's been fully made up and doesn't actually mean anything irl

[spooksier]

the place adventure time has in just culture in general is so so funny to be because it's so prevalent whether through just merch with characters on it or designs directly referencing the style/aesthetics and yet most people have not actually seen the show past season 1-5 (including me until like a year ago!) so if you try to explain any post s5 adventure time plot where it basically became a complete different show you sound fucking insane. they don't even know about princess bubblegum's gay cousin chicle. they don't even know about my dear friend fern.

[furiitha096]

why do anitshippers gravitate to dark media so much

[onlyfangz]

ive definitely talked abt this before, but i literally cannot relate to the posts that are like "ohhh you guys ship them romantically when theyre soo much more interesting as friends". i contain multitudes. i think they are best friends. i think they are lovers. i think they are soulmates in a way that cant be categorised. these statements dont conflict.

[yourfirstnamealoud]

I think some understand how transmisogyny functions and how trans women are cast as dangerous predators in an abstract way but it's shocking like. How people will not realize that they have for sure had direct contact with this thinking. Like when you pull up the Wikipedia page for any male serial killer for whom there's any evidence at all that they cross dressed or had like the slightest sprinkle of trans in them like. You will see that on their Wikipedia page! It will become part of how they are understood in popular culture! It's easy to see that and go 'oh well he wasn't trans actually' or 'oh well I guess that happened but it's irrelevant I personally don't care' but like, that information isn't included for no reason! The thing that makes that information notable enough to document on their gotdang wikipedia page is the transphobic, specifically transmisogynistic, assumption that the merest possibility of transfemininity is evidence of their depravation. And on top of that it also does the work of transfeminizing people who are Not Even Trans in order to promote and produce the idea that the transfeminine is monstrous.

[cowboylikeyouu]

my favorite gender is men finding out about the concept of shipping non-canon ships

[cloudboundcritters]

I'd rather hangout with the straight boyfriend than the queer cop who insists they're one of the "good ones" while harassing people of color

I'd rather hangout with the straight palestinian grandma than the queer zionist who keeps insisting that the death of palestinians is the one way ticket to queer liberation

I'd rather hangout with the leather dyke who is a mspec gaybian and uses paw/pawself pronouns than the puritan who makes "callout posts" clearly targeting disabled queer artists

[alexandraisyes]

It's not normal to send people death threats over fiction 👍

If you're so bothered by a piece of fiction maybe you should go to a therapist and talk about why it bothers you

Not send death threats

Authors and artists are real people, not machines for you to abuse

[torglives]

to say my piece: firstly, fuck iskall.

secondly, its very easy to tell by the outpouring of hate comments on many of the hermits' recent videos (after his response) that he reached a target of young, impressionable fans. not only that, but also a darker side of the hermitcraft fandom that i like to ignore.

as much as i love hermitcraft, its "golden" status that its gotten from remaining "unpolitical" and "drama-free" has perpetuated a very ugly-hearted group of fans who cant find solace in the more openly left-wing smp communities. so they turn to hermitcraft, where they can hide a little more easily. and this has been a group of people slowly cultivating numbers for years now, and there's enough of them that docm77's gay beacon, or the number of pride mcc participants (and queer hermits) can't ward off.

these people have always been the ones brushing concerns in the community under the rug, the "this isn't the place for politics," and "i watch hermitcraft to get AWAY from that stuff." types. they are never going to believe the women that were harassed over the male creator they've latched onto as someone who's "for them" and "un-cancelable." these people have been waiting for this opportunity. and you'll see them say "hermitcraft is over," and "they can't come back from this," but none of that is true. they're the only ones who believe that.

and as awful as all of this is, the hate and the VERY thinly veiled misogyny-- there is a bright-side in weeding those people out. "i don't think i'll be able to watch hermitcraft after this" good fucking riddance.

iskall knew what he was doing by bringing his shit response video to his youtube audience. instead of the reddit, instead of twitter, but to a space that HE moderates. the space with the highest concentration of people who he know will defend him.

my only hope is that the hermits double down on this, and that they have the backbone to make it clear that these people are not welcome in the community. and neither is iskall. and that the larger chunk of us continue to support the victims, and uplift what they have to say. i can't imagine how this must feel for them.

[phlondsbian]

0 days since the last time dan complained about a rumor he started

[idliketobeatree]

btw when you're being mean to aziraphale this is who you're being mean to. hope this helps

[stply]

i don't have a take about this game itself because it's not something i'm particularly interested in nor do i really give a fuck but the wording here is really. uh actually guys only men buy porn games especially the bad ones and only men have kinks and fetishes especially the bad ones actually. everyone knows that no woman or otherwise would ever be interested in anything like that despite. checks notes. 62% of women in a study having rape fantasies. but no only men are ever aroused by anything bad and in fact all men who have ever been aroused by anything bad should be in jail. no one else though because they'd surely never like this type of material

[gandalfsbignaturals]

i appreciate you sticking your neck out for us trans dudes considering that most of the people who hate us are often quite shitty about weaponizing transmisogyny against transfems who defend us. i hope you dont have to deal with that too much and that everyone's being super chill to you cuz you seem like one chill ass lady :^]

honestly, my discourse posts dont tend to get many people disagreeing with them. probably a good thing, since i imagine that otherwise, id get into a lot more arguments and probably lose some hair over it.

im pretty defensive of trans men, for a couple of reasons. for one, if it wasnt for trans men, i wouldnt have had any trans friends at all, for like, the first three years of my transition. i met very few trans women after my initial transition, and the ones i did were largely uninterested in being my friend. partly because of this, i was exposed to the experiences of a lot of trans men, and found a lot of commonality with them. my takeaway from all of this was that trans people generally have a lot more in common across the board than not.

my second reason is that... i feel like, in some circles, trans men are kind of seen as acceptable punching bags. whether its cuz theyre seen as cringe, or gender traitors, or whatever else, ive seen a lot of trans men just get bullied super hard for trying to live as their authentic self. i think that sucks a lot, for reasons that i hope are obvious, but i also relate, because i grew up being frequently bullied for being my authentic self.

gendered oppression and living as a gender minority is like. its hard. and its complex. and i dont think its ever as simple as saying one group is this way and another group is that way. i think the only way we fix these problems, the only way we truly move forward, is by acknowledging the experiences we have in common and using that to build community and solidarity.