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PONDWINNY: ORIGINAL SHIP INTERUPTED
Clips from WE ARE. Phum looking for Pheem ask Q (Pheem's Bestie) for his location.
Did You Know POND AND WINNY were suppose to be an original ship for GMMTV.
Yep, word is POND was set for his first lead role as SUTTHAYA aka MORK in FISH UPON THE SKY
His love interest was set to be WINNY who had won the 2nd lead role as dental student PATTAWEE aka PI
PHUWIN was also set to be in FUTS as POND's brother Meen. This was set to reunite PHUWIN with NEO as they played besties GORD and MORN in CAUSE YOU'RE MY BOY lead by DRAKE and FRANK
However FUTS Director SAKON WONGSINWISET (GOLF) wasn't keen on the chemistry of POND and WINNY. Though POND and WINNY were very close in age (3 months apart, WINNY is older) while PHUWIN was 3 years younger.
So PHUWIN took over the role of Pi creating new ship PONDPHUWIN.
LOUIS was cast as Meen and WINNY took on support role of Koh (from the Kitty Gang)
Later WINNY got shipped with oft co-star SATANG.
WINNY and SATANG were in FUTS, STAR IN MY MIND and MY SCHOOL PRESIDENT (their first coupling) before joining PONDPHUWIN in 2024 hit WE ARE: THE SERIES.
#SHIP INTERUPTED#PONDWINNY#GMMTV#MORKPI#FISH UPON THE SKY#WE ARE: THE SERIES#GOLF ENDS PONDWINNY BEFORE IT STARTED#PONDPHUWIN kills PONDWINNY#GOOD THING...CAUSE WINNYSATANG ROCKS#AS DOES PONDPHUWIN
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So if I’m getting my timeline correct:
Santa surprised Perth with an unscripted kiss at LOL last weekend.
Aou surprised Boom with adding a sniff kiss to a JengPok scene they re-enacted at their Macau fanmeet today.
Considering the last time this kind of timeline happened, Boom filmed himself waiting outside Aou’s bathroom at midnight with a candle we went through JASP.er + partners surprise midnight birthday candles escalating until Dunk showed up at Joong’s house with a cake over a meter in diameter and someone else to film him…
Can’t wait to see how the rest of JASP.er finishes this one out, especially considering JoongDunk’s fanservice (which does not negate how much they actually care about each other let me be clear) has a level of campy drag to it that makes them irresistible and over the top.
#jasp.er + partners#jasp.er#perthsanta#aouboom#pondphuwin#joongdunk#we survived the midnight birthday wishes ride from January to March#and now we’re at surprise stage kisses#putting money now on phuwin shocking the hell out of pond#and then joongdunk cresting maybe an actual kissing war because that’s how they roll#please note that just because they do engage in a certain level of fanservice#aka content that is shared with the fans for their enjoyment#does not mean that any of these pairs do not actually genuinely care about each other#as evidenced by their ability to pop up at each others houses at midnight#and how often they’re exposed being clingy with each other when they don’t know anyone is filming#also AouBoom and PondPhuwin are constantly harangued by fans for gatekeeping content from fans so…#anyways#excited for this kiss trend to hold us over until the summer/fall birthdays start#gmmtv couples#gmmtv bl#gmmtv boys
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WE ARE คือเรารักกัน (2024) EPISODE 12
#we are the series#we are#pond naravit#phuwin tangsakyuen#phumpeem#pondphuwin#.gif#.we are#// he just randomly drops these alongside his cheesy pick up lines and i'm just like???#// hello???#// how does peem even compute this#thdrama#ql
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PETITION TO HAVE THIS HANGING AT THE LOUVRE NEXT TO THE MONA LISA JESUS CHRIST
#PONDPHUWIN TRULY BELONG TO A MUSEUM#LIKE THE SHEER AMOUNT OF TIMES I'VE YELLED 'WHY DOES THIS SHIT LOOK LIKE A PAINTING' AT MY SCREEN WHILE WATCHING THIS SHOW#INSANITY#we are the series#phumpeem#m: txt
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belt move: success WE ARE EP.4
#we are the series#we are#thai bl#phumpeem#pondphuwin#pond naravit#i coloured the shot inbetween (yall would notice the difference in colouring in the og scene too) and it looks like a crime doc from the 80#so i might post that for fun later but yeah it does NOT fit this set at all so its alllll a focus on ponds face#enjoy <3#managing to sorta match the first shots with the second row is one of my proudest moments in recent sets ngl#petri gifs#userminty#userspring#usersufa#i need everyone to stop for a second and think about how phum felt butterflies putting on drunk peem's belt on and then started wishing to#try it out again when peem is sober and awake#he realised it was a perfect flirting move and im sure he was all giddy over it#im not normal about this at all actually#pinned post
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We're gonna bring my levels of delulu up a notch — so you know how the basic dynamic of jokezo SO FAR is quite similar to morkpi from Fish upon the sky? WHAT IF... pondphuwin make a cameo in Hidden Agenda...as Mork and Pi...because they helped Joke in masterminding his whole plan to win over Zo...since their situation/dynamic was quite similar...
#IT DOES NOT HELP THAT IN RECENT MONTHS DURING EVENTS PONDPHUWIN KEPT TALKING ABOUT FUTS#i mean it was probably just to make fans happy#BUT STILL#THINK ABOUT IT#...yeah im aware im being astronomically delulu rn#let me have this please#it's funny to think about#hidden agenda#gmmtv#jokezo#joongdunk#joong archen#dunk natachai#fish upon the sky#morkpi#pondphuwin#pond naravit#phuwin tangsakyuen
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BLs with Strong Historical Elements
Costume dramas, historical BLs, and BLs with time travel or flashbacks to historical locations & times.
These are in order of my personal preference, best at the top.

I Feel You Linger in the Air
2023 Thailand
IFYLITA is an exquisite BL, from filming techniques to narrative framework (much like Until We Meet Again). It's about a gay man from our time who falls into the past, becomes a servant to a noble house, and falls in love with the heir. It turns out this has all happened several times before. Steeped in history and family drama it edges into lakorn (but not as much as To Sir With Love and with way less scenery chewing). This is an elegant and classy soulmates BL... from Thailand which normally doesn't even try for classy. The main couple (both as a pair and as individuals) were excellent, particularly Bright (Yai) whose eye-work acting style is a personal favorite of mine. Pity about the ending. Oh it wasn’t that sad but it wasn’t good either. This show could easily have earned a 10/10 from me except that it fumbled the… erm… balls in the final quarter. Argh. Whatever.
Nobleman Ryu's Wedding
2021 Korea - WeTV
A boy cross-dresses to take his runaway sister's place as a bride to a shy scholar, turns out they like being married. A historical setting allowed this BL to use some seriously old fashioned romance tropes (arranged marriage, evil step-sisters, Cinderfella) but also modern BL stylings like fake relationship & secret identity (drag) plus some cute gay panic. It reminded me of 12th Night more than anything else which just happens to be my favorite Shakespeare play. For all these reasons, I adored it.
(the ghat kiss!)
Tinted With You
2022 Korea - Viki
Fun stylish time travel meets portal fantasy with a likable cast, historical setting, and two actual kisses that mitigate the rough plot and issues around anachronisms.

Word of Honor
2021 China (censored) - Viki/YouTube?
I don’t rec Chinese stuff often, because I believe in censoring the censors, but this show is one of my favorites of the post 2016 censored bromances. It’s two murder-gay assassins (pining sunshine/tsundere), and they are so insanely gay for two boys who will never be allowed to kiss. Tropes include: wuxia, soulmates, paranormal, historical, and fantasy elements.
To Sir, With Love AKA Khun Chai
2022 Thailand - YouTube?
This is a true lakorn (basically Thai tellenovella or soap opera) with scenery chewing performances, especially from the mother characters. Gone With the Wind + Days of Our Lives but gay. That said? I loved it: A glorious central brother relationship (the best, made me cry), het romances, class divide + gay *gasp* main romance - oh my word, the campy drama of it all! Arranged marriage, rebellion, cut sleeves, over-the-top death with curses and regrets, beautiful if inaccurate costumes, secrets unraveling, cover ups, sparkle murder, sex herbs, coils within coils including snakes and murderous green metallic sequins (is anything gayer on this earth?). It’s a WILD ride but it does end happy for our gay boys. A man cries when he finds DEATH GLITTER. Come on! You haffa watch it. That said, like Manner of Death I struggle to rate something on a BL scale when it patently isn’t a BL. So I ended up giving this exactly what I gave that show, 7/10 I enjoyed it a whole lot, but not as a BL.

The Untamed (Special BL Edition)
2020 China (censored) - YouTube
Censored wuxia bromance, amorphous ending. Probubly the best known BL of its kind out of China and responsible for bring many fans to the BL side.

Our Skyy 2: Never Let Me Go
2023 Thailand - YouTube
I was nervous to watch this PondPhuwin vehicle but I liked it a lot! Doomed soulmates + paranormal time travel to fix the past. I’m happy for the outfits and the dancing (if not the singing). It’s not a bad premise and it’s nice to see GMMTV lean into its high production values for a change. I'd adore a full historical starring these two and this was definitely the best of the second series of Our Skyy. I don't think you have to have watched the original Never Let Me Go to enjoy this.
Legend of Long Yang: Rebirth
2017 China
Gaga
Whipping boy trope... literally, servant character takes the strap for the prince, who then makes him his bodyguard and lover when he becomes king. Low budget historical, comes off as kind of cosplay wuxia version of Irresistible Love, but we get (in the credits) an actual kiss, and they both live. So yay for small mercies.

The Director Who Buys Me Dinner
2023 Korea (historical flash backs)
iQIYI
A new employee at a film company encounters a director who claims to have lived 300 years and insists that they have to date (eat, hug & kiss) if baby doesn't want to die. It has a lot of Japanese elements, not the least of which are: an office setting, the fact that every character in this show is unhinged, and a killing of the gays. Featuring a gorgeous & stellar cast, TDWBMD should have utilized them less for melodrama and more for chemistry. This BL surprised me by going there with a lipstick mark AND an actually gay idol. But (you knew there was a but) while it's a unique twist on an office romance it is NOT a unique twist on the doomed red thread trope, resulting in it feeling less than the sum of its parts and ultimately unsatisfying. This might have also had to do with the fact that this was one of those KBLs where I felt how very short it was the whole time I was watching, like I was missing something constantly, in every episode. Worth watching for some but seriously flawed.
First Love Again
2022 Korea (historical flash backs) - Viki
A popular novelist who remembers his past lives meets his soulmate for the third time, only to find she has been reincarnated into the body of a man. This one started out a touch mean-spirited, but we eventually got a good kiss. The confession/rejection scene was justified and the reconciliation and ending was... fine. All in all, the pacing felt rushed and the romantic arc was underdeveloped. They go from like to love to boyfriends in a red hot minute. But that’s par for the course with Korea’s short form. If you don’t mind a heavy does of melodrama in your BL this one has a solid story with a strong concept that’s well acted and produced, making it a classic KBL with better than average chemistry but ultimately a touch forgettable.
Love in Spring AKA Spring of Crush
2022 Korea
This show was all over the place with uneven acting, narrative, and focus (sometimes it wanted to be a slapstick comedy, sometimes a depressing melodrama) which meant no one, actors or viewers, took anyone or anything seriously.... AND it’s a bromance. I was left wondering if SalHyung is now code for “they were roommates” in Kdrama historicals but otherwise largely apathetic and unimpressed. Korea, I now know you can do better. Do better.
Mermaid's Jade
2019 China (censored-esk) - Gaga
Kills the gay.
The Male Queen: Han Zi Gao
2016 China - Gaga
Kills the gay. Schrodinger's BL, both a BL and entirely not one at the same time.
Diary of Heong Yeong Dang
2014 Korea
Kills the Gay
I was gonna do a top 10 list, but there aren't enough by my metrics, so many end sadly.
This post at the behest of @verymuchof thank you for the idea!
Dated April 2023, includes only BLs that had finished their run by that date. Not responsible for cool costume flix that come after that. But you should check the comments to see if any have been added by others!
I might have missed a few that only have time historical elements since I don't always track those.
Also I would like to point out a decided lack of Japan on this list. My ninja yaoi consuming tiny past self is VERY upset about this void.
WHERE ARE MY GAY NINJAS??!!!
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#historical bls#time travel bls#bls with historical elements#korean bl#chinese bl#thai bl#I Feel You Linger in the Air#Nobleman Ryu's Wedding#Scholar Ryu's Wedding#Tinted With You#Word of Honor#Khun Chai#to sir with love#The Untamed#Never let me go#Legend of Long Yang#The Director Who Buys Me Dinner#First Love Again#Love in Spring#Spring of Crush
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WE ARE: THE SERIES (2024, THAILAND)
Episode 2
Pheem (PHUWIN TANGSAKYUEN) gets drunks leaves the bar to book a taxi but doesn't. Found by Phum (NARAVIT LERTRATKOSUM aka POND) Tan and Fang on a bench. Phum is elected to send Pheem home.
Once there and let in by Aunt Pui, she asks for Phum to look after Pheem while she grabs a towel (which she apparently went out to get, I mean she never came back)
A drunken Pheem managed to mention Phum's attributes (tall nose, lovely eyes and a handsome face) and his shortcoming (Why Are You Such an Asshole) 😴😴😴 And here's your damn flowers.
Night Night Pheem.
Meanwhile Phum is as smitten as can be.
@pose4photoml @lutawolf @kingofthereblog-boysloveed
#WE ARE: THE SERIES#THAI BL SERIES#MAIN COUPLE 1#PONDPHUWIN#PHUMPHEEM#PHEEM ROASTS PHUM WHILE DRUNK YET PRAISES HIM 1ST#PHUM IS SMITTEN AF#DOES PHEEM LIKE PHUM YET?#PROBABLY NOT#My GIFS#MYGIFSET#MY-GIF-EDIT#BL-BAM-BEYOND FAMILY OF BLOGS
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pond naravit does not lie 😌




an assortment of phuwin's new hair colour with different lighting/editing 🫶
#i had a feeling yesterday#i was like phuwin talked about wanting to dye his hair before and pond does not lie blatantly like that jfkdjfjdfkdk#a very dark brown but still! a nice little change!#phuwin tangsakyuen#pond naravit#pondphuwin#ppnaravit: partner
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Okay, this didn’t happen yesterday since they only announced one GL but I’m gonna wait for part 2 before I start getting mad.
After struggling for weeks, I've finally decided on what I wanted to write down on the GMMTV 2024 Bingo card. @disasterbabygirlnick thanks for tagging me for this! And thanks to @icouldhyperfixatehim for making this bingo!

You have one job, GMMTV.
#the gl they announced does sound very interesting even if i'm a bit confused about the plot so i'm very much looking forward to it#they also gave me a pondphuwin show and a campy gay vampire romance yesterday in addition to that gl#so i’m feeling a bit more charitable towards gmmtv for now#but if y’all don’t announce more gls in part 2 gmmtv i’m gonna be pissed#gmmtv 2024#self rb
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We Are The Series: Why I Didn't Like It
I am writing this for the 3 people on this website who completed this but didn't love it.
@automaticpenguincreation tagging you because we talked about this and I said I would. Also chatting with you is what made me want to finally say something.
Disclaimers (Please Read Them):
I am going to be critical in this post, not hateful, I don't hate this show, but critical. Engage in good faith if you can, If you can't don't.
I do not want my criticism to be dismissed saying I must not be getting it. I spend weeks making sure I got it. Read all the praise and even reblogged the occasional post because I see the value this show has for people. All I am saying is that I don't like this.
Again some of my later critics are about the choices that were made in this series. I understand that a lot of what I am about to critique was made on porpouse and is indeed part of the appeal.
I have seen maybe 1 post on tumblr being overly critical (@bengiyo post and I guess mine) I don't know where people got the impression that this show is being hated. But If you geniuly want to know why some people might have not liked this show you can read my thoughts and see for yourself.
I have watched and enjoyed stuff like this before. I am not making any moral judgement on you. Just because I don't like this doesn't mean you can't like it.
Part One: Pros
I am going to start with the good things. My honest review of this show is: It's a Mid University BL that is doing something different with the friendship and quietly subverting a couple of of classical Uni BL tropes.
I can see how that would have valued for people that watched all the Uni BL. I get that part of the appeal.
The friendships in this show are very good, they are framed as just as important if not more important then the romances. And I appriciate that. It's also one of the only two realtionships the show set up writing wise and spend any ammount of writing effort making you want to root for. Chain and Pun being the other one.
Pon being added to the cast late and them having to reshoot things were handled beautifully, you can't actually tell there was ever any issues at all and it feels like Pon was always meant to be there.
PondPhuwin story with the you must be my slave bit was handled pretty well. It certantly could have done worse. I think the story does a pretty good job writing the resolution in a satisfying manner.
I can tell that this meant a lot to people both fans and the cast and crew. All art is subjective. Just because I don't feel any value from this doesn't mean it doesn't have it.
The story is escapism, it deliberately downplays all the negative bits of life and of queer life to make a fluffy cute show. It is a similar appeal to My School President. I can't find the post that talked about that anymore, but indeed the appeal of My School President is that for the majority of the story they just get to be normal high schoolers and this is treated like a normal romance.
I have always seen the homophobia at the end of MSP not as a break in the format but a sign our boys were growing up, almost out of the protective halls of high school (in the specific bubble version of high school the story set up) and into the real world.
That is the appeal of We Are the series. Which is why in my personal opinion it's not a pure slice of life series (which wasn't ever said in the negative at least by me), it certentaly might have slice of life inspirations, and it might be using a similar structure (see @shortpplfedup post's comparing this to Hospital Playlist a show I didn't see but I have seen called Slice of Life by multiple other people). I don't personally feel like a show can be slife of life and escapism at the same time. You are 100% free to have a different opinion on this.
I am not going to give it more praise simply because the website is full of praise for this show and because those are the main points that i enjoyed.
Part Two: Cons
Let's start with the big one the plot has no throughline (I first encounter this term on this website which I highly reccomend the TLDR is: A throughline is the core "problem" of a show, the part of the structure that ties all the events together).
Exemples of throughline from a slice of life ql I watched recentely (and I am simplying to use this as an exemple). She Loves To Cook and She Loves to eat: Our main girls are alone, they go through life missing a connection, they both have needs that could be met by another person. During the course of the story they form a connect to each other and other people. They form a bond. The story ends with them moving in together, permanentely affirming that they are a unit now, and therefor will never go through life alone again. The "problem" of the start is resolved.
We Are the Series doesn't have that. And it doesn't have that by desing. Uni BL usual throughline is main relationship but they can do that here. What I would have put as the throughline is the friendships. Making the "problem" is the friendship group of long time friends going to survive Uni and various romantic relationships.
But the show doesn't that, because that would mean having arcs, and conflict and that is something the show doesn't want to do to not hurt the escapism.
It is a stylistic choice I don't like but it doesn't I understand why it wasn't made.
This is why to some people it feels like We Are the Series doesn't have a story. It is very common for story with no throughline to give that feeling to people.
Events happen, characters made decision, they talk to each other. But it doesn't feel like it has a narrative plot.
It is also why it doesn't have a classical climax. I know we clown a lot on episodes 11 and penultimate episodes of BLs and some of them are not well handled and too dramtic, or too high stakes for the resolution we are going to get. But the reason we get those it's because it's a climax, the highest point of tension in the story.
She Loves To Cook and She Loves to Eat climax is the problems with finding a place to go, because that is the highest point of tension of the throughline. We Are the series had no conflicts in the penultimate episodes because it doesn't have anything to raise, the story has no tension what so over.
Conflict and Tension don't just mean break up and fight scenes, a low key slice of life story can have both tension and conflict the exemple GL I have given has both.
As I mention before the only thing this show had any interesting in setting up and writing with any sort of effort was the friendships and ChainPun.
The reason why I feel like ChainPun were the best written ship is because all the other ships assume your engagement instead of writing reasons to make us care.
Tangent to explain what I mean: Back when playbooy was airing I exchanged a couple of mgs with @my-rose-tinted-glasses talking about not being able to get attached to any of the character. In my answear I said I started the series already attached because I was keeping up with the characters and plot and got pre-excited about it. So my investment was already high.
I think something similar is happening with We Are the series and the known ships. What I mean is most of the people watching this have already seen at least one show with almost all the main pair. We know what their deal is, what their chemestry is, what their dynamic will be like. The details might be different but we already know them. And I feel like the writing of the series relyed on this fact too much. I don't think there was any effort being made into making you root for them. Maybe PondPhuwin having to write the resolution to you must be my slave plotline. But that is it.
AouBoom get together at episode 5. We barely know anything about either of them, Fang is such a non character at the point I could maybe tell you three things about him. I am not sure how I am supposed to care about them except for the fact that it is AouBoom and I have seen and loved them in other shows and like many people desperately want them to be mains.
ChainPun was the only expeption, they had to use crumbs and a slow writing and only making them get together at the end because they are the only ship we never saw before. The only ships the writer couldn't assume you the audience already be invested in from the get go. (Also why I was at this point near the end only invested in them much like @respectthepetty)
I want to be super clear about something: I AM NOT CRITICISING YOU THE AUDIENCE FOR THIS RESPONSE. I am criticising the writing for relying on that response and not writing any extra stuff that would help with engement. God knows that I will be guilt of the same thing in other shows. I get pre-invested in shows with Cooheart or Fluke Natouch just because I love those two actors. And If I ever get my Fluke Natouch criminal fucked up character of my dreams in a modern bl that show will be my forever fave are you kidding, they could mess up everything but that character and it would be a 10 out of 10. I am not immune to investing in something just because you love a ship or the actors. I am just saying the writing could have done more to support the ships and assume that would be a small % of the viewers that needed more time and proper writing to get attached to the other ships.
Another big problem for me was something that actually happened to me before with playboyy. See at some point my the middle of Playboyy I realized that the show was never going to have the time to actually go has deep into characters and relationship dynamic they set up as much as I wanted them to. So my emotional engement wained a bit. I still had a lot of fun with it. But I wasn't as much into it as I was in the beggining emotionally speaking. With We Are the Series I realized that pretty much at the begging and got confirmation at episode 5 when AouBoom's character just got together like that. With no arc, no story, no effort. And I know that a story was there, We were told that. But I would have liked to have seen the story instead of it being told to us later.
And I know I am not the only one that found the WinnySatang resolution to be lacking and a little off. You can see @heretherebedork post x x x x about it, I agree with them.
Part Three: Conclusion
Ultimately this show is mid. It's value comes from escapism and the fact that it came out right now, amongs other more plot heavy bls and experimental genre dips. That it does something a little different then all the other Uni BL that came before. And that is actors we already know and love.
It's average for me. But it obviosly meant something for people and that matters.
I want to leave this review but again point out, critiques are not hate, a person not liking a show you like is not an attack on you or your judgement. I know it can be upsetting I have been there. I make a lot of effort to understand different POVs of shows and trying to see what the other person saw in this media, and what kind of life biases (bias as in we all have them, art is subjective and we all look at it according to who we are as people) could make them feel the way they do.
If you do like this show and have read this full post thank you, even if you disagree with me.
I want to leave you with this Italian Idiom: Il mondo è bello perchè è vario. The world is beautiful because its varied.
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Back for more lore request but this time I wanna make it open request to all soms including (especially) yourself what is your fav fkt moment? So far mine has to be the safehouse cute kt saga cause at first I thought it was just the iconic voices in head for first moment but then there was the boys teasing him and then fourth going I also have a voice in my head that just says thank you kt and honestly yeah I get it I just love how much fkt are loved(did you see the person for talked to for like a few minutes at the recent event literally keeps liking firs pics within minutes of posting like damn these two have that entire industry whipped)
good pitch. people's favorite moments are always a good way to gather the most unhinged fandom moments. unfortunately, my memory simply vanishes the moment i'm asked these questions, but i'll try my best (and to whoever this might interest, feel free to add to it to show anon your favorite fk moments too).
the voices in first's head is a must, but just like you said, safe house was just so good for soms. khaotung was so protective of first and his injured hand, so it's definitely worth it checking it out (@firstkanaphans did a compilation of their moments that is definitely a must since they don't give us official subtitles, i'm tagging you again, sarah, thank you for your work).
most recently, i'd say that this video of first tickling/pinching khaotung's waist during the change for future event (which was the same one you were mentioning about pluggy, i believe it's his name, and how he wasn't immune to first's charms. who can blame him even?). to be honest, there are many moments from this event that were super fun. khaotung saying that first keeps singing the old dog song to him when they are in private, but never thought first would do it in front of the press. and first saying he's waiting for his owner to love him back and khaotung saying 😠i never said i stopped loving him😠. also this video that is just fans being silly, but the idea that khaotung, when jealous, is scary af just does so well for my tired brain.
this one from an event a long time ago is so fun, too. one because the mcs say something about how the man should sleep in the left side of the bed/house and khaotung just tells first "you sleep in the right", and first saying our home.
there's this video from one of the after parties gmm held after their annual event, and if i'm not mistaken it's a mixboom story with firstkhao in the background, and what we see (more or less) is khaotung with his arm behind first/leaning on the chair he's sitting and might i say too, they look like they are sitting so close from this angle.
during the press tour for lol last year, there was this one bit where p'leo says something like "firstkhaotung go out together all the time. where do they usually go?" and for some reason, basically everyone there with them burst out laughing or chuckling or smiling (hey, satang, pondphuwin and mix, we gotta talk), and idk, it's just funny because they get a little flustered.
this is already too long, so i'll end this with a picture of them during last year's outing:

#bibs ask#Anonymous#first kanaphan#khaotung thanawat#firstkhao#firstkhaotung#fk lore#i can't remember many moments she says#bitch spot lying
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so my nlmg review / meta / rant / idk what this is im just gonna put my jumbled thoughts in here
i started never let me go because... pondphuwin, plus the plot seemed interesting, and let's say they both didn't let me down, the first more than the latter. but i do have a bunch of criticism for it and things i wish they had done differently.
I'll start from my favourite things about Never Let Me Go:
First of all, the freaking OST. so far NLMG has the best OST in any thai bl I've watched. It was so contextual, beautiful, weaving in and out of focus when it needed to, had a big role in setting the mood of so many scenes, in creating tension and resolving it. The songs chosen in many of the romantic scenes were super fitting and all had a similar vibe somehow. The OST helped hold this entire show together so well. I really need to save a bunch of the songs from the OST to my playlists.
Second thing, the cinimatography of the show. From start to finish, NLMG consisted of so many aesthetically pleasing shots. All the visuals were amazing, and served the plot and themes of the show so much. The colour grading of the show gave it a very nostalgic feel. The scenes that showed confidence were so powerful, the scenes with the sweet moments were so soft, the scenes that showed desire were so strong and heartfelt. Honestly the director of the show did such a good job. Also thematically a lot of shots showed the class difference and social hierarchy, as pointed put by @biochemjess in this post, by using levels and the characters positions in the scenes. Or the lighting discussed by @respectthepetty in this post. There are a lot more thematic things that were shown through the cinimatography but im too lazy to analyze them all. All in all, I loved how each and every scene was so put together from visuals to music to acting. Good job jojo.
Third, PondPhuwin's INSANE chemistry, and their amazing acting in general.
I'll start with Phuwin. He did so well portraying Nuengdiao's character. It was so satisfying and awesome to see it from the subtle body language to the big emotions. Phuwin is so good with big emotional scene's ™ it literally gives me goosebumps. He was able to show the softness yet the rage in Nuengdiao, all the pain but all the happiness, all the immaturity and maturity displayed by him throughout the series. The freaking confidence after coming back from the island, and the uncle kit confrontation scene were so powerful, so well acted and vital to Nueng's character arc, and Phuwin did them flawlessly. Some of my favourite scenes that showcase Phuwin's brilliant acting are the rooftop fight/breakdown scene (it was actuallyone of the first scenes i saw a clip of before i watched nlmg and i was like nah i gotta watch it), the fight/break up on the beach scene, the putting-palm-to-sleep-and-running-away scene (might be my favourite scene ever even though it's so sad), the comeback feom the island and taking his rightful place as a heir sequence, the palm getting shot sequence. Like, oh my god, again, goosebumps. Have I mentioned how good Phuwin is in big emotional scenes???
And Pond... that guy, he's probably one of my favourite thai actors ever. Pond has a certain feel, a certain texture and genuineness in his acting that I can't put my hands on, but oh god, do i feel with every role he plays. His acting has a flavour that I really love. He does geniune, sincere, devoted, softly strong like no other. I saw his acting in We Are first, and honestly it was so surprising to me at the beginning how different Palm's personality is from Phum's (they do have their similarities, but in the beginning of nlmg, Palm was so diff). This showed me how much range Pond has. The hesitance, the politeness, the strength yet softness, the sweet confidence, the micro expressions and the not so micro expressions, they were able to paint Palm's personality so well from ep1 directly. His devotion to his work and to Nuengdiao were so prevalent in every look on his face. His conflict of wanting becoming closer to Nueng but also wanting to (more like having to) do what his father wants him to do, was so well acted. And all the confidence Palm gained at the island arc, when they were in the safety of the island, free like the sea, away from expectation, it was so beautiful to watch Pond act that. Some scenes that highlight what im talking about are the scene in the hospital when Palm confronts his dad about not caring about him (then we see Tanya hugging Nueng just after Palm got slapped by his dad and like kahskajmaj), the scene were he sees Nueng kiss Ben, the shooting class scene ("love is much more powerful than hatred" YEAH TAKE IT FROM THE GUY WHO IS FULL OF DEVOTION AND DESIRE), the scene when Nueng humiliated him at the party (i hate the scene but Palm's face, Palm's reaction, Palm's heart breaking... its powerful), Palm coming back to confront Nueng after the first breakup. The list goes on.
Now PondPhuwin together? it's fucking ART okay? it's so beautiful in all its shapes and forms. All the longing looks, every stare, every piece of dialogue shared, every touch, the tension was there, very strongly. It was so there you could feel it through the screen. Then all the romantic scenes, all the sweet ones, they served. The fight scenes were so good. The soft scenes were so good. The angsty scenes were spot on. The comforting scenes, the hugs, the pain, the tattoo kiss (i will never be over that), the way their relationship goes through so many different stages and so many different dynamics and they did each one of them so fucking well. I honestly will stop talking about this because i could write a 100k essay just about how much i love to see them together on the screen. You guys get me, right????
Anyway, another thing this show did right was FEMALE CHARACTERS. I can't stress this enough, but I'm so tired of shows that give the most 2D, weakly written, unlovable female characters only. And here we got three well flesh out, well written important female characters. Starting with Mrs Tanya, Nueng's mother.
If you saw my post after watching ep 1, you saw how much Tanya caught my eye and attention. And that didn't stop as the show went on. She is strong, loving, caring, but flawed, and oh do i love that. I live that she isnt perfect. I love that we see how much she tries to do her best after her husband's death, how confident she is managing the business and stating her terms and boundaries, and how much she tries to protect and care for Nueng. Was her way of doing that right all the time? not really. but that makes her realistic and makes sense for her character. She unconsciously puts pressure on Nueng for being the only hope for the Kiattrakulmethee family, just like his dad did, and unknowns makes Nueng's relationship with Palm more strained with the promise she made Palm make. But over all, we see a genuine caring mother, that fixed her mistakes by the end and tried her hardest to be successful. (Also she is gorgeous??? i can't not mention that. plus her stylist slayed)
Up next is Maggie!! she was such a pleasant and very very needed character. She helped in Palm's development by being a very good friend. Im so grateful they didn't make her flirty with him all the time and the usual not being able to read the room and trying to get in between the mcs. Nope, we got a genuine friend, who had an initial crush on Palm (i mean look at him, who wouldn't??) but then realised the story, recognised so many of Palm's internal problems and gave him much needed advice and support. They were so cute to see together, and i loved the scenes were she was talking to Palm about what she wants to do with her life, and asking him about what he wants to do with his. I think there was something beautiful there because we saw so much of Palm interacting with people from higher class, poeple who dont understand an integral part of his character, and then we see him talking to maggie, who is also working class, who is also trying to navigate her life and live it to it's fullest job after job. Idk why i liked that this much. I love Maggie, she deserves the best.
And finally, the character i thought i was gonna hate but i loved immensely, Palm's mom, mama Mam. We meet her, as a mother who doesn't know her son, a selfish mother that left and loves her family on her own terms. But them once her son comes back to her life, she steps up to take her role as a mother, and boy does she do good. What we saw of her in the few episodes she was in, was so important. She embraced her son's presence fully and read him so well, gave him advice and supoort he very much needed, gave him a safe place and so much love (for him and his boyfriend), and then as a final tribute, sacrificed her life for theirs.
Her character portrayed the complexity of motherhood, of love, of life. The thing she told palm about life not being all about love explained a lot about her character, and is kinda true. So yeah i love how well written she was.
Now, for side character appreciation we get CHOPPER! You dont get how much love I have for him. He is a green flag, no, a green forest and literally such an perfect character. Perth's acting>>>>>>>>>>> The fact that Chopper faced all that conflict alone, had to choose between jailing his own father and becoming complicit in his crimes, it's heartbreaking. Even Ben wasn't by his side at that point. He was so alone, yet he did the right thing. Love a character with strong values. I love that he didn't have any negative feeling towards Nueng, despite all their parents' conflicts. And him confornging his father? badass, even if he faiked to stop him. Him shooting his father? BADASS.
#never let me go meta#never let me go textpost#nlmg#nlmg meta#never let me go#never let me go the series#palmnuengdiao#palmnueng#palm pannakorn jannaloy#Nuengdiao#pondphuwin#pond naravit#phuwin#phuwin tangsakyuen#thai bl#nlmg the series#honestly i never ended up completely my word vomit of a post#but im posting it anyway#so that it doesnt rot forver in my drafts#if i ever rewatch nlmg#ill come back#and write down the rest of my thoughts abt this
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PondPhuwin Series
Fish upon the sky
First things first: LOOK AT THOSE CUTE CHEEKS! 🥰
The first time I watched this series, I absolutely loved how crazy they were. But this time, I fell in love with their chemistry. (I have a type, and that type needs to have chemistry!)
It's amazing to see Pond being crazy in love with Phuwin and Phuwin falling even harder. Their interactions, arguments and sweet moments are worth it, even if I have to suffer second-hand embarrassment.
I have to admit that the only thing I don't like about FUTS is the whole shipping thing. There's nothing wrong with shipping two people, but there are some limits you can't cross. And in this case, those two crazy people need to back off before I throw a few hands at them. 😠
Also, I think Mork (Pond) should have been more compassionate towards Pi (Phuwin) and tried to stop those two crazy people from saying and doing all those things. And don't invite them to your birthday! 🤦🏼♀️
Never let me go
Time for full disclosure: when NLMG was released, I started watching it, but stopped after episode nine. I don't know why. Perhaps I wasn't engaged by the story, or maybe I was preoccupied with other things at the time. This time, however, I stopped watching other series and focused solely on NLMG. Thank goodness I did!
First things first: THE STARING! These two love looking into each other's souls through their eyes. Along with the staring comes a whole host of emotions: longing, jealousy, fear, anger and love. I don't know what led them to express so much through their eyes, but I hope they continue to do so.
Beyond that, I don't have much else to say about NLMG. In terms of chemistry and plot, it was a good series. It delivered everything I expected and left me wanting more.
There is only one scene that stands out for me: the dance and bathroom scenes at the end of episode 9 and the beginning of episode 10. There was something beautiful yet tragic about those scenes that made me realise how wrong everything was. They were just kids who were lost and struggling to keep going, but they did it anyway because they had each other. When Phuwin decided to leave Pond, it was born out of hurt. It came from a boy who had lost too much and was unwilling to lose the love of his life too. I didn't expect it, but it made sense at the time.
Once again, I fell in love with them.
We are
Welcome to one of my favourite shows! I just can't get tired of this series — I think it's simply impossible! I've watched it three times so far and it's still only June (you can call me crazy – my sister certainly does! 😂).
There's just something about this series that touches my heart. Maybe it's the simplicity of the love, or the way they understand each other and want to spend time together, or the teasing and flirting. One thing is certain: they are the reason I keep rewatching this series.
#thai bl#thai series#bl drama#fish upon the sky#never let me go#we are the series#pondphuwin#pond naravit#phuwin tangsakyuen#pond x phuwin
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I saw a video of young Phuwin saying go read wattpad because it will help with learning English (I can’t explain how so I’ll just attach the link you can just watch it and understand) and I cannot stop thinking about
How did he find Wattpad
Why does he know Wattpad
And WHAT DID HE READ
Even though this was way before PondPhuwin happened and there was no Phuwin fics as far as I know…
WHOSE FANFICTIONS DID HE READ???
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Why We Are isn't just a fluffy no-plot show
I just read this post by @twig-tea, which honestly is a very well written, thought out post and I'd recommend giving it a read, it brings up many pertinent questions.
Having said that, I want to make just a small interjection as someone who really enjoyed We Are. This isn't just a biased view of why We Are is good - it has quite a few faults too. [can't even write a post without- *grumbling* so sorry my cat was prancing all over the bed threatening to pee] Where was I- yes. What I'm trying to say through this post is that We Are is queer in it's own right and while it might not match up to some of the greats of our time (Bad Buddy) it does resonate with a lot of queer people (including me.)
I myself asked @desi-yearning why I liked We Are. I was rewatching the show so at the time it was a sort of rhetorical question, but then I really thought about it. Why do I like We Are? The answer I arrived it is not as simple as I'd though it be (that it's a good fluffy show).
I am out and proud as a fluff enjoyer. I know angst reflects real world struggles and what queer people have to go through on a regular basis. I don't like angst but the why is a story for another time. Historically though, it's not that I've never watched angst or enjoyed it (I entered the bl world with KinnPorsche so-) but it's more a personal choice.
Now, coming to We Are specifically, I was actually skeptical all the way till episode 5 or 6, I think. I don't remember specifically what happened, but by ep 8 I was hooked.
All that rambling aside, here are the reasons why I think maybe We Are isn't just a no-plot fluff show:
Fans are actually leaning towards high stakes shows. GMMTV usually pretty accurately represents the wants of the bl-fan demographic (they have to, to earn the most profit) and it has slowly been turning towards ansgty, hard "real-world" (though this time with all the fate stuff and tarot cards it's more "we have nothing else to produce please give us your money") shows (whether they are well done or not, however, is another question altogether). I know that's a bit of an assumption but from meta on tumblr too, I get the same feeling. Therefore, We Are was a bit of a dark horse. P'New himself said, in almost all interviews that he never expected We Are to be commercially successful, he just made it because he wanted to. So... why?
Couple pairings. I have a LOT of beef with GMMTV. Much of it stems from their couple pairing strategy. While I do have my favourite pairing(s) (and I hate it because it means those capitalist idiots have been successful in their matchmaking scheme), I absolutely detest them overworking these pairings to produce commercially successful shows that are actually hollow. We Are, however, introduced a new pairing that was, by some, even more loved than the 'main' couple. For me, personally, I actually had very little idea about the other pairings too. I had seen PondPhuwin in NLMG but it was a high-angst show that made me queasy and I did not look further than what the show gave me. I had seen AouBoom as side couples but had hardly paid them any mind more than to maybe say "oh they're cute". I had seen WinnySatang in MSP and a couple more sides but I wasn't entirely convinced by that either. I only learnt more about them during or after the show, so they had less than nothing to do with me watching We Are. Alternatively, MLMU Th was disappointing for me, and I love GeminiFourth. When I watch a show, I do pay attention to the pairings, but that's not the only thing that can carry a show for me.
Friendship. This is a big one. I'm in college. Friendship is a very big, very important part of college/uni. I've never had many friends and honestly did enter college mentally prepared to go through all four years alone. But then I made friends. I just- they are so important to me. I know I'm maybe not as important to them as they are to me but I know they'll help me out when I ask. So when I saw this little show about friendship as a central point, I embraced it hard and cried about it at night. If you peel off the few outer layers, at it's core, it's all about friends. And that just got to me. It was more found family adjacent which is also a soft spot of mine. It's about not taking friendship for granted, about cherishing what you have, about putting your friends first, and always being there for them.
Queer representation. We Are examines overused tropes in a new light. Big example of this is how Peem/Phum could have very easily turned into a dark, toxic relationship. Even a few years back, it would have. But it didn't. We understood why Phum was the way he was. And Peem was never for a moment shown to be anything but his equal or tolerating any of his bullshit (even during the slave era he made it abundantly clear to Phum that this was wrong and if he really didn't want to, he wouldn't be doing it. He specifically told Phum to not let Peem's friends know because Peem knew, with absolute certainty, that if they found out, Phum would be buried alive). He even called Phum out multiple times. Moreover, it is also a story about queer groups, about queer friendship, specifically. I think bls don't show that enough. Even through the hard times, we do sometimes have people to support us, be it just one fellow queer or a whole group. It is also about acceptance of self and acceptance of love. Another thing that really got to me was the friends-to-lovers arc of ChainPun. I've often had crushes on my friends, and I've either confessed long after, when I didn't like them anymore, or never confessed at all. That shit is hard. In 12th grade, I had a very embarassing crush and most of my friends knew about it, so that trope was very cathartic for me. However. I did want Phum's relationship with his estranged father to be better explored. I don't like how easily they blow that away. It has been a pattern (mentioned in the linked post) and while I love my accepting parents/guardians, I do think we do also need homophobic ones. To change older generations' mindset, I think it's better to show them initially as conservative and harsh but slowly become accepting near the end of the series because they realize that if they continue their behaviour they might just lose their loved ones for good. (Homophobic parents is also very close to my heart but I have a complicated relationship with it.)
No plot. We Are does have an idiot plot, i.e., it's character driven. But I don't think it's entirely devoid of an overarching plot/storyline. Every character does play out a little bit of plot that plays into a bigger picture. Every character has a place, a purpose. Comparing the beginning to the finale, we see the characters have changed not just due to character development, but also as a result of the characters around them and the circumstances they were placed in. And all of these characters are tied together, somehow.
I have no idea if all that makes any sense, but yeah, that's my take on it.
This post was actually sparked off by a few questions that came up after I read the post linked in the beginning; can't queer people be happy? Despite all the struggles and the suffering, can't they have a home to come to? Does queer rep always neccessarily have to be angsty with a barely-happy ending? Does our love always have to be bittersweet?
If you've read this far, thank you so much for giving my rambling a chance! =D
Please rest your eyes for a moment and remember to hydrate <3
Here, have a donut 🍩
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