#Amphitryon
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messymoonmad · 7 months ago
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Poseidon : how bad can it possibly be ?
5 min later...
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( @makotafi 's idea to project my period to poseidon cause i was dying yesterday)
Amphitrite : HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE HELPLESS ??? HOW DOES IT FEEL TO KNOW PAIN ??
Zeus and hera version here !!!
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sarafangirlart · 8 months ago
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Amphitryon 🤝 Menelaus
Getting villainized in modern adaptations even tho 90% of the mythology indicates that they love their wives.
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alaknog · 7 months ago
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Some quote from great book.
One day Amphitryon asked his grandfather if it was true that he had turned into stone a monster that wanted to devour Grandmother Andromeda. The Aedes sang that Perseus used the head of a dead Medusa. The boy passionately wanted to hear it firsthand – it seemed to him that he would touch the feat himself.
And he heard it.
–Nonsense,– said Grandpa gloomily. – Women's gossip. What kind of head? I slaughtered him like a butcher slaughtering a pig. I flew higher, waited until the stupid animal was interested in my shadow on the waves, and fell on the back of his neck… Then everything was simple. A lot of blood, and the end. They'll come up with it too: A Medusa, a head! I guess there won't be anything left of my whole life over time. Medusa, a bunch of rocks, and no Perseus…
Quick translation from "Grandson of Perseus. My granfather is a slayer" by G. L. Oldie
I hope one day I put more bit from this book. Old Perseus is damn badass (and scary, if he want).
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superkooku · 7 months ago
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Perseus' Grandson : first impressions
Ok ! I found a way to translate the Russian version of Perseus' Grandson from Henry Lion Oldie in a way that's actually readable (not perfect, but still...)
Btw I'd like to thank @alaknog for being willing to help me on this journey. I have some questions, feel free to answer them when you can, be it in a reblog or a DM.
And thanks to @sarafangirlart for exposing me to probably the best Perseus retelling (in my opinion) out there. Idk, the plot summary already sold me 😂. If it keeps its promises, then I'm in for a good time.
I'll post my first few impressions on my blog. Spoiler alert, obviously. I'll try to summarize the story so it's understandable, but those are mostly impressions and rambling. If anyone has a question, feel free to ask.
The parod
Genius title for a first part. Referencing ancient greek tragedies, especially with such a beginning.
Btw, it's about Perseus' death. Yeah,
He lies on his deathbed, surrounded by his loved ones. I like that we don't make him die in battle, that's more personal.
Andromeda is still alive, presented as a severe and headstrong woman that doesn't cry, despite being besides her dying husband. Idk it's different from the usual damsel in distress/self-sacrificing stuff we have. It's a welcome change :3
There's also Sthenelus, Gorgophone and ofc Amphitryon (our main character). The whole family is here on this tragic occasion. Idk it's weird in a good way to see them being acknowledged.
Ok, so the translation says "little Medusa/baby Medusa", and I was confused for a while. But I realized it's about Sthenelus' daughter, Astymedusa.
It talks about Zeus bringing his "son" to Olympus. But Perseus is dying, so is he being deified or is Oldie talking about someone else ?
Pretty original opening chapter, honestly. It begins on a strong/sad note and we're introduced to the family.
Episode 1 - Part 1
Ok, this scene was super confusing until @alaknog told me that there were OCs. I spent 30 minutes of research for nothing, lol.
Also, the translator keeps changing their names.
There's a dude called Lycus, his twin brother Firay (It doesn't sound that greek, but it's a translation from a russian reading of an OC name. We'd probably read it as Phireus or smth like that)
Plus one of Leucothea's sons with a mortal captain named Triton. All OCs
The argument is about Amphitryon being cursed because of Pelops' bloodline and him denying it.
They're fishing on a boat.
Little details about Amphitryon's youth like his mother calling him "my bull" or him biting Pelops' finger on their first meeting as a baby. Idk, I like it.
The twins are constantly teasing Amphitryon about him being cursed. And they have each other's back. They're rowdy boys.
They have two other OC siblings : Chrysus and the youngest called Polyphemus (obviously not the cyclops)
Annnnd that's when the chapter becomes less "teenage boys making fun of each other" and darker.
There's Chrysus, panicked, that comes announces that Polyphemus got killed by their own mother.
And the mother is dancing in the courtyard like nothing happened...
Oh wait... the mother killing her offspring... like Agave and the Minyades ! I'm smelling some good ol' dionysian madness over here.
If I'm right, then I'm in for a good time.
So far, I don't have much to say about the character dynamics, except for funny sibling interactions and the nice side of getting to know Amphitryon. Not much about his personality, though again, the translation makes it hard to understand subtext.
Episode 2 - Part 2
Oh goodness 😱😱, I was right ! The boys, probably searching for the mother, find her doing, well, maenad stuff (screaming Bacchos in an evohe, running around with torn clothes, etc.)
She's even dancing on the baby's corpse like he's not even there... ok, he's not even in the book yet but I can already confirm this is the most accurate adaptation of Dionysus I've seen
The twins' father is here. I think she's injured him and he has a broken arm. Anyway, he's crying. Understandable reaction.
I love how she's compared to an Erynie working for Hades and are like "no he's not the one responsible". Funny involuntary jab at Clash of Titans 🤣.
Lycus tries to get his mother back to her senses but his dad and Phireus push him, like "ARE YOU STUPID OR DO YOU WANT TO DIE ?".
The men are terrified of who will be targeted by madness next. Again, understandable. Dionysus' wrath would be a nightmare to handle
Ok, so the people are stuck in a dilemma : Dionysus' wrath or the Basilei's (the king's)
The king is Perseus, who comes in to see the mess. He's introduced like an uninvited guest, a stranger, who could be in his 60s.
This chapter takes place before the beginning considering, yeah, he's still alive.
Also, he's bald ??? We have bald Perseus now ??
I love how Amphitryon instantly glosses over the crazy woman dancing with a baby corpse and is like "yay ! Gramps !" 😂
But it means Perseus is a good grandfather who spends time with his grandson, super nice detail
Anyways, Perseus comes to the crazed mother and recognizes an invisible presence (jee, I wonder who it may be 🤔...)
Then she attacks him like a wild beast, but he firmly holds her arm, restraining her.
Also, he defeated her until she was lying unconscious on the floor, not showing any emotion. Probably because he's done it before or because any sign of weakness could be used against him.
The mother is clearly dehumanized. Her name isn't used, she's compared to a monster, an Erynie, a creature. It serves the scary factor pretty well. It's not a mother anymore, but a tornado, an animal, subject to godly insanity.
Perseus crushes grapes on her wrist and... she's neutralized. Does the maenads' strength come from magical madness grapes here ? Or is crushing grapes a metaphor ?
If Perseus is emotionless, Spartacus much less so. According to the dialogue, they went to neutralize some group of maenads but he couldn't do the same for his wife.
I say neutralize because I don't know if she's still alive or not. Probably...
Ok : more about Perseus and Amphitryon. The former drags the latter away from the chaos, in private.
Amphitryon seems to both admire and fear Perseus. He's a pretty intimidating man but, since he's pretty old, his grandson struggles to see him as the youthful gorgon-slayer. The more Amphitryon grew, the more he admired Perseus... interesting.
Lol, the text says that the people fear Perseus more than Zeus' lightning, because the lightning is far from them. Latina mom energy 😂😂
Perseus "the destroyer" they call him.
Lots of good stuff in this chapter !!
I like how he implications of having a maenad wife are shown. Perseus knows she doesn't recognize her husband and doesn't mind slaughtering any obstacle, but Spartacus doesn't have the strength to fight her.
Also, the baby killing. Yes that actually happened in mythology 😅 (not with this character, that's an OC, but to king Minyas' daughters for example. They refused to worship Dionysus and that didn't end well...)
And anyone following my account for a while could see how much I was craving scary Dionysus stuff in adaptations. Here it is ! And it doesn't disappoint. I don't care about the messy translation anymore, I have to continue.
Istg Dionysus is treated like an ominous distant enemy. His name isn't spoken, only the two first letters by (I think) Lycus, before being interrupted. Cthulu-like enemy, lol. I'm curious about the "crushing grapes" thing as well.
But small bald Perseus is so funny to picture XD. I like him so far, he's like one of those cranky grandpas who are war veterans. Or like strong old men in anime. And he had a badass moment, confronting a maenad while everyone else was terrified.
You know what ? From now on, he looks like this in my mind :
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Like an angry Master Roshi with an armor, lol (imagine Perseus, like Master Roshi, being able to hide his muscles to seem like a chill old man and then BOOM: the destroyer is there !)
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galusandmalus · 2 months ago
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"Amphitryon subjugated all the islands. He slew Comaetho, and sailed with the booty to Thebes, and gave the islands to Heleus and Cephalus; and they founded cities named after themselves and dwelt in them." -Apollodorus, Library
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bro, Electryon is dead. an island isn't gonna matter.
i mean i would want one tho.
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aliciavance4228 · 4 months ago
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I cannot believe I'm asking this question but... how is it that, out of all Greek Mythology figures, the one whose myths were adapted the most by the Media in a family-friendly manner are Heracles'? I could somehow understand if these people would've been strictly focusing on his labours (though the reason why he received them in the first place is hard to be ignored...). But no, most of the time people were also focusing on his birth and how he was conceived.
Now, people are already familiar with the fact that a lot of ecranisations used to either partially erase the part where Zeus deceived Alcmene by taking the appearence of her husband, and "fix" everything by depicting their relationship as a romantic one, portraying Amphitryon as an abusive spouse and Hera as an irrational, jealous bitch.
But I remember watching back when I was little a cartoon from the 90's called Hercules (No, not the Disney movie!) in which the scene where Heracles drinks Hera's milk was played for laughs in order to water down the entire moment. Basically, there was a sequence with Hermes taking infant Heracles and placing him next to a naked Hera's chest while she was sleeping in her bed - In case you're curious then yes, it was very close to straight-up graphical, explicit nudity -, and then in the next sequence you had Zeus laughing after hearing Hera screaming in shock. And yet somehow the animators considered that this is completely fine and that kids can watch it, because apparently violating someone's privacy while that person is simultaneously unconcious is perfectly alright if the person in cause is a crazy bitch who clearly has no right to be angered by the fact that her husband cheated on her.
I was about seven or eight years old when I watched that movie for the first time and even then I was uncomfortable seeing that scene, because I was already suspecting that something about it is simply unethical.
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avitha · 2 years ago
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Happy National Grandparents’ Day
Hebe, Alcmene, Amphitryon, Hera, & Zeus
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nardialrose · 2 months ago
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Or like her who left home and country and came to Thebes, following warlike Amphitryon,—even Alcmena, the daughter of Electryon, gatherer of the people. She surpassed the tribe of womankind in beauty and in height; and in wisdom none vied with her of those whom mortal women bore of union with mortal men. Her face and her dark eyes wafted such charm as comes from golden Aphrodite. And she so honored her husband in her heart as none of womankind did before her. In truth he had slain her noble father violently when he was angry about oxen; so he left his own country and came to Thebes and was suppliant to the shield-carrying men of Cadmus. There he dwelt with his modest wife without the joys of love, nor might he go in unto the neat-ankled daughter of Electryon until he had avenged the death of his wife's great-hearted brothers and utterly burned with blazing fire the villages of the heroes, the Taphians and Teleboans;
-Hesiod, Shield of Heracles, 1-15
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marcmarcmomarc · 6 months ago
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Kingdom Hearts IV predictions: Thebes/Olympus/Underworld (Hercules)
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Takes place after the movie.
Is visited by Donald and Goofy.
The inhabitants are thrilled to see Donald and Goofy again, but are sad to hear about Sora’s sacrifice.
Starring the voices of:
Hercules: TATE DONOVAN
Philoctetes: ROBERT COSTANZO
Hades: JAMES WOODS
Megara: SUSAN EGAN
Zeus: COREY BURTON
Pain: BOBCAT GOLDTHWAIT
Panic: MATT FREWER
Amphitryon: JIM CUMMINGS
Alcmene: BARBARA BARRIE
Hera: SAMANTHA EGGAR
Demitrius: JIM CUMMINGS
Calliope: LILLIAS WHITE
Melpomene: CHERYL FREEMAN
Terpsichore: LaCHANZE
Thalia: ROZ RYAN
Clio: VANEESE Y. THOMAS
Hermes: PAUL SCHAFFER
Apollo: KEITH DAVID
Aphrodite: LISA KUDROW
Pegasus: FRANK WELKER
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philoursmars · 2 years ago
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Bon, n'étant pas très mobile, difficile de créer des posts avec de nouvelles photos. Je reviens donc à mon projet de présenter l'intégralité de mes photos, projet interrompu à l'année 2017. Je vais donc essayer de clore cette année 2017.
Boulogne-sur-Mer, Nausicaà. Ici, le lagon et la mangrove ( en 3, un Périophtalme ; en dernier un Gecko diurne de Madagascar)
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kingbryancroidragon · 9 months ago
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Just a little thing to remind everyone of is that Amphitryon and Alcmene were both grandchildren of Perseus and thus, great-grandchildren of Zeus. Now, I have read that Zeus should be read as a serial polygamist, especially since kings of the time typically had plural wives, and Amphitryon was to marry Alcmene on his return.
I have also read that originally Zeus', uh, romances were originally marriages to various goddesses, it was definitely the case with Europa, it is up in the air with Alcmene however so we can't say something like "Amphitryon and Zeus were originally the same individual and a later retelling split them into two different individuals" because we don't know if that's the case.
Now, getting back on track, Zeus married and bedded his great-granddaughter in the form on his great-grandson. Some of his ways of taking additional wives are bizarre (seriously, why a swan or shower of light?), but this is rather creepy.
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sarafangirlart · 9 months ago
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If Helen and Menelaus are angry with Aphrodite for getting between them, Alcmene and Amphitryon would be angry at Zeus for what he did.
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alaknog · 7 months ago
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Few bits from Grandson of Perseus
Can't find large enough parts that I like enough and that can be translated without a lot of context. So just throw few bits.
Contrary to his usual custom, basileus dressed in royal robes today. A long chiton made of milky white linen below the knees; on a shaved head, shiny with sweat, there is a golden hoop.
Grandma Andromeda was sitting next to her. It was she who forced her husband to change his clothes, which, perhaps, would not have been possible even for Ares the Wrathful, the god of war.
The strangers were perplexed: does a woman sit down first, without waiting for her husband? And her thronos is no lower than that of her husband… Such conversations were conducted in whispers, they quickly fade away. Amphitryon didn't understand why people were surprised at all. It's enough to see Grandma Andromeda once in her favorite peplos embroidered with flowers; or, even in rags! — just look into her eyes…
Note - Oldie like use authentic words like basileus insted of king (in Russian it's usually "tzar" lol) or thronos. Or there "bronze fingers" insted of iron/steel.
Another bit. Context Amphitryon just embrace himself, when trying save grandfater and people (and become hero, because what child don't want it?)
And, without looking at anyone, he trudged to the exit of the megaron. Grandfather put hard hand on his shoulder, stopping Amphitryon . Contrary to expectation, Perseus did not squeeze the bronze fingers — he just turned his grandson around to face him.
-You did the right thing, — basileus nodded. — When you save someone, save them. And don't think about how you look. That's it, go ahead.
And another
— I, Leochar of Argos, swear…
Something tore Amphitryon from his place. He grabbed Leohar's arm; he wanted to clap his mouth again, but missed. Even at dusk, Amphitryon saw Leokhar's eyes flash angrily — and, without letting vanakt's grandson come to his senses, he whispered fervently:
— Don't swear! Do you hear? Don't swear!
The words were born by themselves. The right, adult words.
— Do you want revenge? Do it! Do you want to kill? Kill! But don't swear, understood?
And there was so much power in the heated whisper that Leohar did not argue.
— You're right. I'll find it and kill it. Why take oaths?
"If Grandpa doesn't kill him sooner", Amphitryon thought.
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ilredeiladri · 1 year ago
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"Ich möchte dir die Innenseite meiner Augenlider zeigen. Dort hat mich noch nie jemand gesehen - außer mir selbst. Ich möchte, dass du mich dort siehst."
Jupiter als Amphitryon in "Amphitryon"
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britneyshakespeare · 2 years ago
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Sorry if I've been seeming off. My jealous brain keeps incessantly dwelling on my dark vicissitudes.
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aliciavance4228 · 5 months ago
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Amphitryon would send this to Perseus and Andromeda:
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