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Ok I’ll bite bc I keep seeing these takes. What is with the floozies not understanding boundaries being equated to not babying Jean? I never thought reading the room was babying someone. And while the Trojans may not know everything about him, they just met the guy lmao. Never in my life would I grab onto someone I just met as much as they do and I would not have plotted (mind u, they could have asked if he wanted one) to get him a sex toy without his knowledge, and I would not have brought it up right after he asked if someone was safe.
Also why is the weight always on Jean . Like why does he have to set boundaries (he does btw, tells them he doesn’t wanna talk over and over and they refuse to listen). Why can’t these grown adults catch a hint or two?
#I am not looking for discourse#and I know this book is 2 days away#and I’m not the author#but like at some point we have to stop putting the expectations on Jean#u guys are like he’s a kid#and then when it comes to the floozies treatment of him suddenly it’s#don’t baby him!!!#so which is it#honestly I’m asking bc I’m getting whiplash
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something. about. the horror of being sent on an impossible (death) quest and obligations and hospitality politics. the trauma of not having a home, and then the trauma of being in a house that becomes actively hostile to you, one that would swallow you whole and spit out your bones if you step out of line. all of this is conditional, your existence continues to be something men want gone.
it's about going back as far as I can with the perseus narrative because there's always a version of a myth that exists behind the one that survives. the missing pieces are clearly defined, but the oldest recorded version of it isn't there! and there's probably something older before that!! but it's doomed to forever be an unfilled space, clearly defined by an outline of something that was there and continues to be there in it's absence.
and love. it's also about love. even when you had nothing, you had love.
on the opposite side of the spectrum, this is Not About Ovid Or Roman-Renaissance Reception, Depictions And Discourses On The Perseus Narrative.
edit: to add to the above, while it's not about Ovid, because I'm specifically trying to peel things back to the oldest version of this story, Ovid is fine. alterations on the Perseus myth that give more attention Medusa predate Ovid by several centuries. this comic is also not about those, either! there are many versions of this story from the ancient world. there is not one singular True or Better version, they're all saying something.
Perseus, Daniel Ogden
Anthology of Classical Myth: Primary Sources in Translation, edited & translated by Stephen M Trzaskoma, R. Scott Smith, Stephen Brunet
#perseus#danae#komiks tag#long post#every other week i start to say something about how greek heroes are a good case study in diaspora and exile trauma#but man perseus makes me so sad. so does danae. she loves her son :(#perseus turning a whole island to stone is a huge mood. i would also do that if i were him#anyway (salutes) take care everyone i gotta watch yunho's new video it looks like a fucking movie im so excited#(i singled out ovid bc i remember the fucking shit perseus discourse that ran through this site. i remember#im preemptively loading a gun and pointing at it before it can touch this post#it hasn't died out either i see it on twitter all the time in the most ANNOYING ways possible i am TIRED#esp bc they're actually doing medusa a narrative disservice like congrats! you made it worse! stop telling me it's better!!!!)#ancient greece tag
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I’ll be honest the way some people talk about this show makes it sound less like they’re interested in the messy nature of people failing and remorse and guilt and atonement and redemption and regret and the capacity to change and the inability to undo what’s been done and unforgivable actions and maybe forgivable people and how you face all of it and continue to live and endure. and more like they want to be sitting in that jury, determining who’s guilty or not guilty, deciding a sentence, and walking away satisfied in the result being final
#interview with the vampire#iwtv#if your ultimate judgement on the morality or complexity of these characters could be contained in a courtroom#I think the premise itself is flawed#and I am not looking for discourse this is my opinion#engage with media the way you want and feels most fulfilling to you#just some of the discussions feel really circular and unproductive to me
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Just thinking about and loving this little parallel. He can't look at Stede until he's finished getting his words out.
Gifs from @cobbbvanth
(I know I'm not the first person to point this out. It's just so lovely.)
And then to make it even sweeter I like comparing it to this:
Look at that eye contact I'm so proud of you
#ed babygirl teach#he so shy#ofmd#taika waititi#blackbeard#sometimes i am here for discourse and sometimes I'm here to look at pretty moving pictures
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back on my 'zuko is aroace' agenda. if i have to see one more post arguing about shipping i am going to start biting people. he's actually a single dad and never marries thanks bye.
#obv you do you but i for one am TIRED of the discourse#i hate it!!! i hate it so much!!!!#i love being in fandom but sometimes it makes me *starts screaming*#i search up the character and it's just a tirade of angry posts arguing abt who loves XYZ more or they looked at each other so#there is NO DENYING they're madly in love#like you can ship anyone u want but babe... its so fucking deniable!!!!#so anyway aroace zuko truthers where are u#ch: zuko#hattie talks#form: txt#misc: fandom
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The indecision has been discussed repeatedly today but on a serious note, my issue really is summed up by the fact that even at the last moment, the Hells ask even Predathos to make the choice for them. "What do you want to do?" is an abdication. This might've been inevitable, but at this point it isn't even happening because it was inevitable, it's happening because even now they are not choosing to make the decision themselves.
#like it does still remain to be seen how this shakes out to be clear#but it's like. the decision isn't the selfish part. the lack of decision is the selfish part.#in being so avoidant of taking responsibility for the choice they've put the choice in the hands of predathos itself#and that CAN be an interesting character trait but#it's interesting in such a way that I am still well within my rights to look at it and go 'lmao well. guess you get what's coming to you.'#cr spoilers#cr discourse#just in case I guess
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writers! do not! owe you! updates!
this is not tiktok. we are not content mills. we are posting our stories -- oftentimes short story or novel-length -- for FREE.
free. adverb / without cost or payment.
you get these stories (not content, they are actual stories people write out of their own blood, sweat, and tears) without having to pay a singular fee or monetary transaction. these authors often have day jobs or university or both. they even have families! children! pets! social lives! if we have other things going on or simply do not have the brain power, then we do not owe you our time nor our energy for updating our stories or wips or ideas we throw onto the dash or ao3.
i am fortunate that i haven't gotten a demanding anon in a minute, but i am so sick of watching my mutual writers get harassed about their update schedules. the ironic part is that you're only making us not want to write said update when you demand more. not ask, not hope, but demand.
learn some empathy, and above all else: learn to be less of an anonymous coward demanding someone's free time for yourself.
#tw discourse#i am just pisssssssed off#that anyone is sending nasty shit to my friends#trust me when you run your favorite authors off of this website or ao3#you're going to be devastated#bc i've seen how people react when ao3 is down#and you're looking at people not publishing period with these entitled freaking attitudes
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REALLY considered not posting this one.......might delete later
ns//fw and/or ki//nk blogs please dni!!!
#PLEASE READ THESE TAGS:#I AM NOT A VIV///ZIEPOP SUPPORTER!!!!!!!!! I ACTIVELY DISLIKE HER#i have been watching haz/bin with my boyf. and for funsies weve been rewriting and redesigning it in its entirity bc....yikes#imm not adding this to my fandom list bc i dont like. the shows lol. so im not gonna do requests or anything probly#this is a one time thing featuring my redesigns bc i refuse to draw them how they really look you cant make me#anyway please dont unfollow me for posting this 🙏 (/j you can do what you want)#tickle art#hazbin hotel tickle#lee!husk#ler!angel dust#my art#please dont send me discourse about this i dont care if you Like The Show just take this at face value <333333333333
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y'know... i don't often like thinking back to that time, but i just had a thought.
what if schneider's statement wasn't just that? ofc he did address the things that were going on at the time, but part of me feels it's something more. he never explicitly said these words, but what if his statement was a quiet plea for till to come home?
come home... the sun shines over eichwalde. we're all enjoying the warm weather eating watermelon. olli is hosing you down like a dog as he eats. we are all young and happy.
come home... as i put on a purple bra i watch as you and paul wrap your dicks in duct tape. we're calling it "ficken2000." "am arsch hangt der hammer!" we all exclaim. jonathan davis is gonna be so confused, but we're doing it together and that's all that counts.
come home... you're laughing on set as my face starts to melt. we've been performing with these prosthetics and suits for a while, it's only natural they start to wear a bit. but we laugh and laugh as i try to fix it.
come home... i'm in your dressing room tapping my sticks on my lap. you sternly call out for me to stop, you can't concentrate. i devilishly and playfully ignore your request. later, you're waving the german flag around as loud as you can as i speak to the camera. i guess that's the law of equivalent exchange! 😅
come home... we miss you. you're our bandmates, our singer and our friend, but we don't know where this till has come from all of a sudden...
come home... the people you surround yourself with are not your friends. all they want to do is see you hurt, and then walk away when you need first aid. they don't look out for you.
come home... we're worried about you. where did those new cuts and bangs come from? why are you doing this to yourself? we hate every single moment of it. but not you.
come home... are you lonely till? we're right here. we're here for you. please... talk to us. we can help you. just stay with us please.
come home... richard made you doughnuts. he always said they were your favourite. and speaking of richard. if we were able to fix ourselves in mutter, we'll be able to fix things here. please come back to us, for all of us. please...
come home till. we miss you. this isn't who you are and we're worried.... please...
thumbs trembling as i type, i cut it all out. words the world will never see. but maybe, within this band, this family we've made, we can sort it out together...
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perhaps he couldn't say those things. luckily, i don't mind being a conduit for things i feel like he would say. because i would say them too.
#i would appreciate it if you held off any snarky comments or discourse ABOUT schneider's statement please#i am still trying to process my turbulent feelings nearly two weeks after the discourse broke out on tumblr#they have not been pretty. i've come very close to things i wouldn't dream of thinking or doing#(literally just being like “damn 5 man marriage looks so good rn 😚) which is like#no#yeah. it's still hard#i can't just detach myself that easily especially considering he's my second favourite and 1/2 of my otp#and if i did i fear how my mind will take it :(#i'm still deliberating about how much longer i can deal with it and what to do to make the pain stop#if i detach myself from till there will be resentment or even i fear hatred of the man. if i hold on there will be pain.#i need to find a balance. but how?#more things to think about between shitposting#thank you for being patient with me#medoh squawks#rammstein#poetry#till lindemann#christoph schneider
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I know you all will already agree with me but I need to rant.
I hate so much when people use Dan and Phil as an example of why shipping/rpf is bad. Not just because if you actually engage in Dan and Phil's content at all it is very obvious shipping did not ruin their relationship and they definitely don't hate it . Not even just because I believe that shipping and rpf are good, I don't think its inherently bad but I acknowledge there can definitely be issues with it.
I hate it so much because it is so dismissive and erasing of the real complex queer experiences Dan and Phil, as well as many other people, went through. To say that teenagers thinking two men would be a cute couple is what scared and traumatised them ignoring umm yknow homophobia, horrific bullying, and the feelings of deep loneliness and never being understood and accepted for who you are? I would also even argue alot of the young fans in the early 2010s that did harass them about being gay or together did so because they also didn't understand these complex and difficult queer experience. Dan and Phil were not scared and closeted because of shipping they were scared and closeted because of HOMOPHOBIA you idiot.
Did Dan and Phil's fans also traumatise them? Yes, but idk man I think it was more to do with them harassing, stalking, and trying to out them, and not because they wrote stories about them fucking or zoomed in on their shoulders brushing. It was also because the way they became famous was very weird and new and unexpected, which led to them not having boundaries. There was also maybe not so much concept of a digital footprint, so suddenly they are famous and not ready to be out but oopsie they used to flirt on twitter because they were young and the internet was not mainstream.
Dan and Phil's story does have so many interesting things to discuss about celebrity, shipping, internet culture, parasocialism, and queer experiences. But if you actually cared about Dan and Phil at all your conclusion is not going to be just "shipping is bad and evil :(".
#the ho yaps#dan and phil#phan#dnp#dan howell#phil lester#dip n pip#shipping discourse#rpf#istg i am going to c+p this in replies next time i see some yt comment like “guys dont ship real people look what happened to dan and phil”#idk if i can explain but it feels so objectifying of them??#like you clearly dont actually watch their content or know anything you just want to use them to prove your silly moral agenda
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i see your "'does he want to lick my boots or chop off my hands' is a Nicki reference" and raise you "what if Armand's relationship with sex is so fucked that his two modi are total submission and 'don't touch me or I'll chop off your hands' and Louis is still clowning on his trauma" in this essay I will
#I'm not getting involved in the iwtv TV discourse I didn't avoid the ascended astarion drama to get sucked into this#So don't come at me with any of that 'who is the real villain' stuff please#They are all evil and they are all traumatized and I love all of them deeply#Armand#louis de pointe du lac#iwtv#iwtv s2#Iwtv s02e05#the vampire armand#louis iwtv#I am both aghast and fascinated by the fact that Louis called Armand a groomed bitch because holy shit Louis my girl#There's a dynamic TM here and I want to study it under a microscope#Just two traumatized bottoms traumatizing each other even further#I really hope they'll address how badly Louis handles Armand's trauma tho cause it's so cold#Look at me going I don't want to be part of the discourse and then writing a whole ass paper in the tags#loumand#interview with the vampire
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it wouldn't even matter if he did "shit on you behind your back" when you "never say anything back." the thing it absolutely boils down to is that you knew him when he was a minor and he has come forward saying that because of your influence and power, he felt uncomfortable around you. any POSSIBLE comeback other than an apology ends there. slur or no slur, any other response to that is bad. or, is it just that someone underage you've hurt in the past telling the truth about you only scares you when you know they have the public influence to protect themself?
#never mind the fact that the podcast was like a month ago. maybe more#bro really dickrides xqc that hard??#listen. real talk. I am not saying that dream groomed tommyinnit before it even gets misconstrued as anything close to that.#bc I feel like someone will willfully misread this post to that angle#im just saying that going after Tommy specifically when the extent of his shittalking was saying he was scared of you as a kid#isn't a good look. if this was really the point he wanted to make he would've made it about jack#who shittalked him the most.#so he has to be full of shit. because its clearly not about what he's making it about.#he's seeing Tommy go after big creators and getting scared about what he might say next.#why he decided to initiate that and shoot himself in the foot is beyond me bc now Tommy is going to retaliate#and its probably going to get pretty ugly.#yeah yeah blah blah relevancy publicity stunt I know. but Tommy specifically is such a fucking choice.#I know hes one of the most famous dsmp members so it makes sense but I just. I dont know.#there's something else going on.#sorry I got mad again lol#discourse#dream situation#mcyt
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Welp its over for ikemen 2007 anime dante. Goodbye. So long, your google image results. I will miss you and cherish every frame i have left before April 2025.
The time has come, my handsome devil.




#listen im still really excited (edit: not anymore) for the dmc anime but the more i see of teaser and footage it just feels. off.#he seems a little too energetic for dante standards and im still not a fan of his design#netflix dante looks like the idea of how people who havent played the games see dante#like ‘hmmm. dante? white hair/red jacket/parted fringe—‘ WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE I REALIZE THATS HIS HAIR HAS BEEN BOTHERING ME#ITS TOO SHORT!!!!! HIS HAIR AT LEAST REACHES HIS CHIN!!!#ok ok seriously though. I’d be perfectly fine with this Dante.#if I didn’t knew damn well netflix dante will overshadow a lot of how people that havent played the games will interperate dante.#listen the games are hard and not everyone is willing to sit through a hours of gameplay footage and cutscenes#this will be a lot of casual people’s first actual look into the franchise. i know damn well the discourse is approaching provoking dark cl#btw i’d love to see any disagreements and discussions because i am curious#devil may cry anime#dmc anime 2007#devil may cry#dante sparda#save
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i saw someone basically say that Nightshade is better nonbinary rep than Shredhead and i get their point and it's fine to feel that way but i do want to slightly caution against saying things like this. different kinds of rep appeal to different kinds of people.
i personally prefer the Shredhead kind of rep where they don't have a Big Explanatory Scene, but because i was in the Undertale fandom for a while i know you have to basically punch cis people in the face with trans and nonbinary rep for them to get it, so as a tactic i prefer Nightshade. (also, Earthspark is a kid's cartoon and Skybound is made for...older teens? Carly is at least 16 to be driving alone in the US so. you don't have to be as didactic with teen readers)
it is not a bad thing to have queer and trans characters that are more lowkey and i think trying to position one as being better than the other (as in, having a didactic scene explaining the concept of being nonbinary vs just referring to a character as they/them and leaving it at that) isn't great? the bad thing is when cis fans think Frisk and Chara using they/them means they "get to decide Frisk and Chara's pronouns," and that has a lot more to do with societal exorsexism than it does with the text itself.
#sounds posts#yes i want to post this yes im too scared to main tag it#personally my headcanon is that Cybertronians can empathically/telepathically sense the genders and pronouns of everyone around them#bc *i* dont like writing scenes where ppl Explain their genders#or having characters be accidentally misgendered and have to be like 'im not x im y'#*my* fantasy is that ppl can look at me and instantly Know whats going on#and i dont like talking to ppl abt my gender either. im more like Shredhead than i am Nightshade#idk its just i saw that post and had like. fandom discourse war trenches flashbacks
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Someone shelving a DVD of Staged series 1 and 2 in the LGBTQ+ section of a shop is entirely too accurate and will never not be hilarious...
#michael sheen#welsh seduction machine#david tennant#soft scottish hipster gigolo#staged#or 'Brokeback Mount Him' which is what i am referring to Staged as from here on out#either the person who shelved it is an MS/DT shipper#or they saw the cover and decided it was queer based on that alone#or they watched it and saw the same thing we all saw#all excellent possibilities#could they possibly look more like a couple#bisexual disasters the both of them#amazing#ineffable lovers#lolz#discourse
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Katara playfully splashes water at Aang, who responded by sulking in a brooding cave and then exploding lava in her face and storming off without any apology. From The Lost Adventures.
Golly gee why don't I want to ship such a wholesome wonderful healthy ship like this? Gee whiz, it's great Katara didn't end with Zuko, otherwise she might get lava thrown at her in an argument from an immature, emotionally unavailable, abusive jerk! /s Oh, right, Aang is the one who did that.
Aang has always been the one to hurt Katara. Funny Zuko hasn't. Remind me again who scarred Katara's hands, who blew up into the avatar state leaving Katara to pull him out lest he destroy her, her brother, and everything around him? Who stormed off right before the finale without communication leaving his friends to die in the invasion? Was it Zuko who did those things? Was it?
Such a wholesome ship!
#anti kataang#atla comics#zutara#in a bad mood now that i had to look these pages up for someone's ask and be reminded how atrocious they were#anti aang#just a cute cuddly twelve year old huh?#he's an abuser and an asshole#this is not how conflict resolution works#he just storms off and won't communicate#he gets mad at her lashes out and acts like he is the victim#i hate this so much#i would dump any guy who acted this way and i am infuriated that this was katara's fate in canon#the discourse
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