#Im going to be thinking abt this for a while hgjkhlj;

[ind1c0lite]

I do not frequently message people online but I absolutely Needed to communicate to you how entranced I am by your copycat au oh my god. I read the initial comic and I had to go for a jog around my apartment I was so floored. Absolutely fantastic work thank you so much for sharing!!!!!!!

What with capcom calling the switch port of aa4-aa6 the “Apollo Justice Trilogy” (which I have dubious feelings on) I’ve been thinking a lot about Apollo’s role in aa5 & aa6 (esp aa5) and your au is just. so perfect for reflecting more of Apollo and his story from aa4 forward into aa5. The potential within it to actually consider things like Apollo still being a very fresh-faced & inexperienced lawyer in the grand scheme of things and feeling inadequate for both 1) being unable to save Phoenix (in the moment, obv everything ends for the best) and 2) being unable to adequately help Athena, him having to grapple with the thought that he has yet another mentor who has betrayed him again, bringing up what’s actually touched on (though not enough imo) in the original dd of him feeling like an inadequate defense lawyer because he can’t be 100% certain of a clients innocence (tho ofc in this case it’s Phoenix instead of Athena) (“of course he’s innocent he’s the Turnabout Terror! ………but Kristoph Gavin was the Coolest Defense in the West…”, the added layer of making him have to consider Phoenix committing Clay’s murder and the two possibilities being 1 - Phoenix actually did commit the murder (awful) and possibility 2 - Phoenix didn’t commit the murder but he’s intentionally trying to let whoever did commit the murder go free for unknown reasons (bonus points - (Apollo thinks) Phoenix is leaving him in the dark again) (also awful) (obv as you mentioned at this point Athena and Apollo have no concept of a phantom villain so that’s not an option lol) …eugh it’s all so good…

And all of this on top of keeping Klavier relevant in a meaningful way (continuing the story from aa4) And having to deal with the potential fallout he would feel from Yet Again being the one to tear down Phoenix Wright with his own hands (plus the later fallout of how he would feel knowing he was (at least partially successfully) yet again manipulated and used as a tool specifically to harm Phoenix Wright) + the parallel of having Athena, yet again, having to stand in court and be able to do absolutely nothing to help those close to her (just like when she “failed” Simon) + potential Trucy fallout from having a father willfully disappear from her again. Even if she 100% believes in Phoenix’s innocence then that still means her father is intentionally covering something up and intentionally taking an action that will remove himself from her life (either via jail or via execution) and god damn that’s gotta sting + if Simon hears about this and thinks the Phantom is at play again either 1) feeling helpless and unable to prove anything because he’s stuck in the hospital and he just has to sit and watch the Phantom ruin another family right in front of his eyes or 2) (if he doesn’t Quite realize the Phantom Is Phoenix rn, he just thinks Phoenix has been tricked into covering for the Phantom) then he’s watching someone make his exact same mistake right in front of his eyes and the Phantom will continue to run free yet again eugshdhhcgsgshsh and oh my goddddddd don’t get me started on the parallels between Phoenix and Edgeworth having their roles reversed from Turnabout Goodbyes (even if it isn’t actually Phoenix, Edgeworth (probably? maybe?) doesn’t know that) basically just. Oh my god. Stellar fucking job with this. Sorry for all the rambling I just desperately needed to communicate to you how fantastic of a concept this is and thank you so much for sharing it. (also apologies for my rambles that are probably pretty off base from precisely what you have in mind for this au, obv some of what I rambled about is likely either blatantly wrong/opposing your vision, or just hasn’t been revealed yet, but I saw the two comics and the profiles and basically immediately started spiraling /pos, consider them au’s of your au lol) (also on the off chance you ever want to further discuss your au just say the word and I Will come off anon lol)

OUGHHHHH ANON I A M !!!!! I WAS N O T EXPECTING A WHOLE ENTIRE ESSAY IN MY INBOX ABT RAMBLINGS ON THE COPYCAT BUT I AM GRINNING E A R TO EAR ABOUT THIS IM SO GLAD YOU LIKE IT SM!!

I ALWAYS LOVE HEARING PEOPLE RAMBLE!!! YOU HAVE PICKED UP E X A C TL Y WHAT IVE LAID OUT AND WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH THIS AU SO WELL I JUST

I HAVE NO WORDS IM VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THERES SOMEONE JUST AS EXCITED AS I AM ABT MY OWN LIL AU HJGKHLJHGJ

I am always happy to talk more abt my au whenever anon!!!!

[ind1c0lite]

OK SO

This is absolutely bending wkm canon a bit (OK well it's more me taking a concept and fleshing it out a l o t more but still HGJKHLJ)

(mention of suicide at one part)

Basically, my version of the manor entity is more or less the personification of the upside down and the manor curse, it doesn't have a form (at least not at first) it just kinda of- exists in the manor and has ever since it was built, it can't really do anything in the house itself except for hide certain rooms (same way the detectives room was revealed to us in the last chapter), people teleporting without realizing it is just a by product of the curse

The whole thing abt this entity is that it /really/ likes entertainment, but unfortunately for It the humans that live in this manor are really fucking boring according to its standards and so for a while it's just vibing since it's attached to the manor and can't really go anywhere else gjkhlj (The way it works is exactly how it works in canon, it plants a thought in someone's head and that person believes that they thought of the idea in the first place. Expanding on that slightly for this, the manor brings forth thoughts that people REALLY want to do deep down, but for one reason or another can't/won't, it gets those thoughts and plants it much more clearly in the persons head, The entity can't force people to do what it wants it's fully up to the person it's targeting to actually go through with it) so going off of that, there really isn't anything for it to do, it can't sway someone cause the people just- dONT go through with those thoughts they just brush them off and forget abt em

everything is VERY very quiet until Celine and Mark get married and Celine officially moves into the manor, where it realizes that Celine notices it's presence

She doesn't KNOW that she's doing this, she just thinks that the house feels wrong and uncomfortable to be in for long periods of time, but the entity notices and it's intrigued by that, it doesn't do anything just yet but it's taking note

things go quiet again until sometime after the affair/divorce and right after Mark attempts suicide and realizes that he can't be killed

NOW the entity can actually do something, planting the idea of revenge by any means necessary against Wil and Celine, and this time, Mark decides to actually go through with it, Mark tries to do research into the house/and the potential curse but doesn't learn too much about the curse itself, which just drives him to try and learn /anything/ about it, and how to possibly control it, which he /kind of/ gets, though it's more the Entity going "ok this is a fun plotline to go through with, Im gonna help this guy become the hero he believes he is in his head" and helping him with smaller manipulations of the upside down and the smaller realities in it ( it's the reason he can fully break into the world Celine made in the Damien video)

Now, as said before the entity doesn't have a physical form, but it does really want one cause then it can actually go places besides the manor (though it'll always be attached to the manor so it can't be away from it for too long) and it'll become much more powerful

and during WKM, it spots an opportunity when Celine arrives

Celine just like in canon, is INCREDIBLY powerful after she started to learn more about the supernatural and how manipulate it, and if the entity can get it's metaphysical hands on it, the entity can become MUCH more powerful and somewhat physical

So, Actor kills both Damien and Celine, and while Mark takes on Damiens body, the entity takes on Celines body and can now do a l o t more (though what that More is, changes depending on what AU im working on, though in general it can now leave the manor and essentially curse other places for a short period of time)

The body it resides in though becomes more and more corrupted over time, at first it looks basically exactly like Celine, and over time it becomes more and more inhuman looking, but still vaguely looks like Celine, it's just a creepy goopy fella FJGKHLJ

When I get home do y'all wanna hear abt my version of the manor entity