#LAME. and there was a john thing but im NOT up to date with modern lantern comics at all im still in the exploratory stage

[themyscirah]

Does anyone know if there was simonjess crumbs in the justice league book at the time or is it like just in their solo (meaning I need to reread that book again which I was already planning on doing but like still)

[wyyrmwood]

Im sorry w h a t is Arthurian Legend, stirling castle and Kings knot???? I D o Not understand the implications of King Arthur being based in historical fact with geographical archeology in Scotland. Im not smart enough to understand half those words pls give me wisdom

@scarsmood this ones for you too, buckle up kiddos because this has been my hyperfixation on and off for like the last 2 years.

Ok so everyone knows king arthur right dude was, according to legend, a 5th-6th century British king who, with the Knighs of the Round Table and the wizard Merlin did some stuff a long time ago now thats whatever we dont care about that because most of it is exaggerated beyond recognition or just straight up fake, except for maybe how he died, but thats for later. What we care about is the whole round table deal and the name. It came from somewhere, right?

The thing is nobody can find this supposed kingdom. Everyone looked all over Europe, hell most people were certain he wasn't even real. This guy was covered head to toe in tales of wealth and glory so surely there must be something that can link him to historical fact, after all legends are primarily based on real people and real events twisted over time so.... Where is he?

This went on for a while, looking and not finding much concrete stuff. Well, maybe he was just a propoganda story used to make the British feel real good about themselves then.

And then one guy thought, but what if that's exactly what it is?

People stole traditions and names and words and technology and shit from the lands they conqured, contacted, or invaded, why not take legends too?

And thats when shit gets real, because once they stopped looking at Britian and Europe, they found a lot.

Like a guy

Who lived in the 6th century

Named Artuir.

Who was a king...

IN SCOTLAND.

THATS RIGHT BABBEY KING ARTHUR WAS A SCOTTISH WARLORD AND WE HAVE OODLES OF PROOF TO BACK IT UP!

Exhibit A: in scotland there is an ancient castle known as Stirling Castle, now most castles are old but this place is like the great grandpa of castles. Its been a place since 655 (though the castle itself isnt written about until around 1107) been through wars of independence, renovations, the whole deal, certifiably fucking ancient AND right in that 6th century timeslot. It was the perfect place for a defendable fort, and thats what it was.

It sits on a crest of 350 million year old quartz dolerite, overlooking something even more fascinating. A formation known as Kings Knot. Now Idk what y'all know about this shit but ✨holy f u c k✨

Come take a gander

Now the masonry of the rings and geometric shapes is old, sure but only like regular mideval old, the garden earthworks at King's Park are thought to have been built for the king Charles I coronation in 1633.

I know what youre saying, Wow cool so some dudes put some earthworks down in the mideval period but whats that got to do with the castle or "King Arthur" right?

There is evidence however of something in the middle thats possibly hundreds of years older. And round.... Like a table 👀👀👀👀👀

"John Harrison, chairman of the local history society, said the distinctive “cup and saucer” shape of the mound had changed over the years. There are several competing theories on its dates of origin,” he added. 

...But about 1375 the poet John Barbour says that ‘the round table’ was somewhere to the south of Stirling Castle and tradition continued to place ‘the tabilll round’ hereabouts. It is a mystery the documents cannot solve."

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"Writers going back more than six centuries have linked the landmark to the legend of King Arthur.

Archaeologists from Glasgow University, working with the Stirling Local History Society and Stirling Field and Archaeological Society, conducted the first ever non-invasive survey of the site in May and June in a bid to uncover some of its secrets.

Their findings show there was indeed a round feature on the site that pre-dates the visible earthworks.

...The new survey -- funded by Historic Scotland and Stirling City Heritage Trust -- used the latest scientific techniques to showing lost structures and features up to a metre below the ground.

It also revealed a series of ditches south of the main mound, as well as remains of buildings, and more recent structures, including modern drains which appear at the northern end of the gardens.

The ditches identified may intriguingly be part of historically documented earlier garden features, or if prehistoric in origin could add to our scant knowledge of prehistoric activity at Stirling Castle."

Now remember this is below Stirling Castle, which was maybe not a castle yet but 100% a place in the 6th century, overlooking Kings Knot with earthworks dating back hundreds of years BEFORE 1107, which was

WAIT FOR IT,,,,,,,

OCCUPIED BY THE SCOTTISH LORD ARTUIR ("ARTHUR") IN THE 6TH CENTURY, THE SAME TIME THE LEGENDS PLACE THE KING BEING AROUND

ARTUIR MAC AEDAN, A SIXTH CENTURY SON OF A SCOTTISH KING

AND THE CIRCULAR SHAPE BURIED BENEATH THE OLD ENGLISH MONUMENT

MAY VERY WELL BE THE ORIGINAL ROUND TABLE

WHICH WAS LATER COVERED UP AND RENOVATED AND CONVERTED INTO BRITISH PROPOGANDA OVER TIME VIA CULTURAL ASSIMILATION

Now I dont mean to sound lame BUT THATS THE COOLEST SHIT IN THE UNIVERSE

this is the type of history that makes me wanna turn my Archeology minor into an archeology major bro holy fuck