#LitWS talks

[lostinthewoodsomewhere]

Soooooo, it's my birthday today... I have turned 30 🫠🎉

[wayward-wlw]

Type out your headcanons for the answer to this question

1. Did Claire and Cas talk about him possessing her.

Yes, I stand by my belief that Cas removed the actual Memory of that happening from Claire--probably at Jimmy's request--but once he becomes more human and sees the way Sam's various possessions have affected him, Cas makes a point of apologizing for doing that to her. She appreciates it because it's scary to think about the fact that it happened, even if she can't remember how it felt.

2. Why did Cas think Claire hated him in Galaxy Brain?

The simplest possible answer is that they fought. I can't imagine the two of them really reaching a point where they have an entirely stable relationship, and Claire has a temper. She probably felt hurt about something, lashed out, and then Cas catastrophized that she hated him. They probably made up the next day and Cas feels a little silly about it.

3. Did Cas seek Claire out in s10 because she had the last of his grace?

No. I just... like I literally can't imagine him doing that for selfish reasons, and I think that even if that HAD been his initial plan, he never would have been able to follow through once he saw her. I think Cas was human for a hot second, realized how vulnerable that feels, got a better understanding of emotions, and felt guilty about what he did to Jimmy's family, something that only got worse when he saw how much he failed to keep his promise that she would be safe.

4. Do they share a special bond because she was his vessel the way Sam and Dean do to Lucifer and Michael?

Yes, but they would absolutely never phrase it that way, and if anyone brought it up Cas would kinda awkwardly agree, but Claire would shut it down and probably be pissed. Later I think she would make it clear to Cas that her coming around to being his friend is a choice, not some cosmic psychic link bullshit. She likes him and she trusts him because she chose to forgive him. But yeah I do think they kinda Get each other in a way that they don't articulate often, but that helps them work through everything.

[nananaheyanna]

I HAVE A LOT TO SAY I DON’T KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN WHAT TO SAY???!!!

Huge Spoilers down

- The movie’s aesthetics and visuals are so beautiful and the animation IMPROVED you get to see our characters making so many expressions and movement (but that’s not a surprise lol dragons 3 did it but Frozen 2 slayed through) I can’t wait for this movie to release digitally every scene are insane (kristoff pedicure tho!)

- A lot of Iduna x Agnarr stuff and answers and I’m v satisfied (actually basically every of my wishes have been granted in this movie)

- I could catch what looked like references to old fanarts 👀

- regarding the previous teasers and knowing that Olaf would have more screen time made afraid he’d annoy me the f- but he was actually funny!! Love him!

- Lt mattias is totally adorable and sometimes a dork!! I wanted to see the anna/mattias dynamic and THEY THREW IT ON THE TABLE

- The interaction between Elsa and Bruni was so adorable. (I though this lizard was going to annoy me but nope) It was so cute seeing Elsa discovering she isn’t the only one with powers (and bruni makes a cute subtle parallel with elsa’s uncontrollable power tho!)

- The Hans mentions are hilarious! Especially the one Santino Fontana was talking about (another explosion of Hans, gif makers we waiting for you to make the parallel with the one in bh6). I wanted to see a true flashback though with actual brand new animation of him and not a white version of his scenes from the first movie. I am sorry to tell the hansdom there are no explanations of his motivations at all (through I think theres nothing to explain, he irredeemable monster and that’s on periodt) there are just some « insulting » mentions

- Elsa goes from snow queen™ to snow goddess™ 💁🏼‍♀️ .

- What to say about Kristoff’s 80’s music video clip omg.. sksksk

- Also, every Kristanna interactions are CUTE. There are a total of 2 Kristanna kisses if you don’t count the brand freshly reanimated flashback kiss from litw

- I thought Kristoff suffered from the calhoun and felix in rbti syndrome til: 1) Anna apologized 2) Kristoff already had an amazing character development in the first movie, all was left was to show him being a dork for Anna and support her when she needs and for that, merci! And 3) He actually the driver (btw there is no sled crash and that’s deceiving)

- I forgot to say that Anna has her periods in this movie

- I never expected they’d show us Elsa being COLD, and actually FREEZING TO DEATH just LIKE ANNA with her hair turning white and stuff (this scene gave me GOOSEBUMPS)

- btw I think Elsa is not immortal since she died. After that she just fixed Arendelle with her magic but it didn’t made her powers evolving at all (through it does evolve since she was born)

- The next right thing was so emotional and strong! Anna was left all alone with the heartbreak of Elsa and Olaf’s death and she managed to STAND UP and save the forest. I call it quality character development.

- Honeymaren totally crushes on Elsa, she’s the one who told Elsa to stay in the forest (their dialogues were cute, we are waiting for the 3rd movie about their love story)

- THAT ICE BROS HUG add it to the collection of rare interactions between Kristoff and Elsa

- Actually, THE VERY FROHANA HUG AT THE ENDING OMG (I want an oil painting!!)

- Anna as Queen, I mean QUEEN ANNA!! We want a sequel!! (Say what you want, think what you think, Frozen II has the best ending for the sisters and their character development, through it kinda means it’s the last movie of the saga) and don’t worry you guys Elsa and Anna are still communicating and Elsa still comes to the castle time to time.

- The moral of the story is so basic but told in a such EPIC way. It was so relatable and got me right in the feels. I don’t want to say it beats the first movie (bc this one is so epic too) but it 1000% match it! We have one of the best wdas movie if not best of all time and the best wda sequel

Edit: i like how Anna is still kinda the protagonist in this movie like in the first one

[beingpassionateabout]

I know some ppl are saying their is a parallel between K & A’s song but I don’t see it in the way that they do. Anna is singing about losing her true love who is a very being of her soul and also losing her son. Her feelings are valid and make total sense in the situation & based on loving E more than anything. Yet, some reviewers are making it sound negative. K’s song is full of obsession, infatuation, desperation, & loss of individual identity. It’s viewed in a positive way. I don’t understand

I agree with everything that you said, and I also think both songs are different and about different feelings. 

I also think KBell is partly responsible for painting Anna’s grief and pain in a negative light with this “codependent” bullshit she’s been pushing ever since the Press tour. I know she meant “codependency” not only in relation to Elsa, but that’s not what KA Minions™ mean when they talk about that AND it’s hard to see Anna being codependent to anyone if we consider 1) majority of F1 she spent either alone or with some boy she just met and 2) majority of F2 she spent worrying Elsa might hurt herself or die during their journey. So, huh 1) not enough time to develop codependent feelings towards anyone? and 2) her feelings are completely natural and normal in that specific context. But bc they wanted to add a darker theme (due to Chris Buck’s son passing) and bc KBell suggested Anna deals with her own real-life problem bc she treats Anna as her self-insert, we’ve got this messy message.

So yeah, Anna’s and Kristoff’s feelings and song are completely different.

But they also draw on some similar elements.

1) Both songs are about “loss” of some kind

2) Both singers are speaking of following someone in the song: 

“I follow you around, I always haveBut you’ve gone to a place I cannot find” - TNRT

“Again, you’re gone, off on a different path than mineI’m left behind, wondering if I should follow” - LiTW

3) Both speak of feeling lost bc of it:

“You are lost, hope is goneBut you must go onAnd do the next right thingCan there be a day beyond this night?I don’t know anymore what is trueI can’t find my direction, I’m all alone” - TNRT

It’s also curious how brazilian portuguese dub translated this line as:

Original line: “How to rise from the floor? But it’s not you I’m rising for”

Translation: “Without you I don’t know who I am, what I’ll do”

Now the parallel:

“And I don’t know what path you are onI’m lost in the woodsUp till now the next step was a question of howI never thought it was a question of whetherWho am I, if I’m not your guy?Where am I, if we’re not together forever?” - LiTW

4) And the cherry-on-top:

“I can’t find my direction, I’m all aloneThe only star that guided me was you” - TNRT

“Now I know you’re my true north, ‘cause I am lost in the woods” - LiTW

“Guiding star” and “True North” are common concepts associated with romantic love, and they both sing it thinking about different people. 

Only one of those relationships is seen through an unhealthy light, tho. I wonder why.. 

To me, it’s clear that Kristoff is infatuated with Anna and being overdramatic, thus exaggerating his feelings. While Anna is feeling deep pain and sorrow bc she lost her sister, her best-friend, their love-child and their little family all at once. So, it’s clear that TNRT has more weight in terms of feelings than LiTW, which is played for kicks.

But heteronormativity dictates that we take the guy’s feelings seriously and make fun of the girl’s. 

A pathetic view shared widely by actresses who’d rather promote a stupid guy than the sisters relationship, the fandom who supports that contrived relationship along with ppl who love to dismiss Anna’s feelings for Elsa. 🙃

[thesvenqueen]

Can we also talk about how cute kristoff was at the start of lost in the woods? How he still looked so unsure of himself and looked back to sven for reassurance before he actually started singing?? The poor boy still didn't know if it was actually ok for him to really express all of his feelings 😭 LITW really was his Let it go moment 😍😍

Oh 100% it was!

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Worst (I Assume) Lyrics - JoJo

Worst (I Assume) Lyrics – JoJo

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[thejohnmillerprogram]

Matthew Félix: Spirit in Spain & the Female Form

Matthew Félix: Spirit in Spain & the Female Form

Sunday, 5/27, 2:00 – 4:00 Pacific Live from Studio 1A

Award-winning author, filmmaker, and LitWings founder Erin Byrne will talk about someplace I myself know very well: España! From leading fellow writers in search of Lorca’s duendeto her own profound spiritual experiences to the film she’s currently producing there, Erin has lots to say about Spain—and writing and travel and so much more. Erin…

[gabiwnomagic]

Oh god yeah I could go OFF about Hard Nokks. I'm very glad they didn't use that plotline and kept that scene deleted because Kristoff lying about disliking his life in Arendelle is totally OOC. He's independent enough to make his own decisions, hence him singing LITW in which he questions everything about his relationship with Anna, and I'm glad they stuck with that instead EVEN THOUGH I really really love Get this Right as a song and the idea of Anna taking charge. Thank you for coming to my TED talk. (Now if you really want me to pop off about deleted scenes I think you allll know the one that they actually should've kept in)

@gabiwnomagic yeah. Hard nokks is disgusting. I really hate it. I'm glad the scene was deleted.

[lostinthewoodsomewhere]

I really love when you go back to the source of something, and find that you don't just love a character cause you've been in headcannon land and you've made up a bunch of stuff, you actually just love the character as they are, does that make sense???

Anyway, I love Jesse Faden, she is everything 😌

[lostinthewoodsomewhere]

Truly doing it all for the aesthetic today 🥲

[lostinthewoodsomewhere]

Not entirely sure where I was going with this, but uhhhhhhhh, yeah, sure me!

[lostinthewoodsomewhere]

Finish this piece of work, get it sent off, then I can reward myself by re-visiting Jesse in Night Springs... maybe some Control... I miss her...

[lostinthewoodsomewhere]

Just got around to using face scrub for the first time in a bit, and I feel like a whole new person...

[lostinthewoodsomewhere]

I made a big girl phone call today, I think that's enough adulting for the week...

[lostinthewoodsomewhere]

LAST NIGHT PARTY AT THE FLAT, AHHHHHHHH I'M SO SAD TO BE LEAVING!!!!

[lostinthewoodsomewhere]

One of these things is not like the others...