#Look me in the eye Bruce
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Another thing I need people to stop just saying like it's the truth is that Bruce picked up Tim as Robin immediately after Jason died, or that Tim forced his way into being Robin.
Now, of course, there is the caveat that Jason can come back into town thinking that it was the case, he was dead and Talia informed him of the changes in Gotham, so we don't know how accurately he was informed. Another caveat is that Tim can grow up thinking he forced his way into it because he does argue for it at a point, but I need no one else who had a fully developed mind and was there saying it. Okay? Okay.
So, let's tackle the first one. Jason Todd gets an official death certificate in the Daedalus and Icarus Annual explaining how he came back showing his date of death as 4/27/19xx (since comics are always meant to be contemporary unless stated otherwise, we can just ignore the year). The DC Encyclopedia had a death certificate too, but it had a lot of odd details, not least his height and weight being more in line for a 10 year old than a 15 year old (the Titans comic put his height at 5'4" when he died), so I'm going to use the comics certificates over that when they conflict, but the Batman Annual also lists his date of death as 4/27 (why is it a Gotham City Death Certificate when he died in Ethiopia? I have no clue).

(Batman Annual 25)

(New Titans Vol 1 55)

(DC Encyclopedia)
Tim Drake appears after Jason dies when Bruce Wayne is going a little crazy as Batman. He specifically shows up during a break week from school.
(Batman 1940 #441)
Given that he could only have a Break Week feasibly in November for teacher conferences, December for Christmas/New Year's, or March/April for Easter, and the greenery outside show that it's neither November nor December, he's therefore shown up for his Spring Break. Since that would never be after April 27th, then he has to be there at least the first Spring Break following Jason's death, so about a year later.
He shows up and begs Dick to become Robin again to save Bruce from himself.
(Batman 1940 #441)
You see, this is interesting. He's explaining all his best qualities, not as a way to say "I'm right for the job" but to awkwardly (as only Tim Drake can) explain how much Batman and Robin mean to him, and how much they've influenced his life, to show how committed he is to this idea to back-up his assessment that Batman needs Dick as Robin again.
Dick is very adamant in his refusal to step back into the Robin role.
(Batman 1940 #441)
Both Alfred and Dick(Maybe? unless it's just Alfred being the drama again, but Dick did leave his old Robin costume out on the side before leaving) suggest Tim should pick up the costume. And he does only hours later, when Dick and Batman's signals have disappeared after going to confront Two-Face. Tim is feeling guilt over Nightwing possibly being dead because he got involved, he's worried sick about his heroes, and Tim has to go help because he is not built for sitting back and worrying.
(Batman 1940 #442)
At this point, he does start trying to convince both himself and Batman that he should be Robin, but only seriously after Alfred and Dick start hyping Tim up as well. Bruce is not having it. Like. At all.
(Batman 1940 #442)
They go to track down Two-Face and the confrontation ends with Tim nearly getting crushed to death as a pile of cars in the junkyard are toppled over onto the Batmobile, where he's been instructed to wait.
(Batman 1940 #442)
The confrontation ends with Bruce punching Two-Face and telling him that he can't kill Batman or Nightwing (Or Robin?) Or Robin!
Afterwards, after all the adrenaline has worn off and they're back in the manor in their normal clothes, Tim starts to back off of being Robin. He's still super stoked for having had the chance to fight criminals with his heroes, he's 13, give him a break. Please and thank you.
At this point it is Alfred, Dick, and Bruce who cement Tim going into training to become Robin. Yes, because of his logic, but also, like. I think Bruce knows deep down he needs someone to work with just as much as everyone else does. And Tim already knows his secret, and this is the easiest way to keep him quiet. Also, Bruce. Fucking. Communicate better. Jesus.
(Batman 1940 #442)
And then Tim's training begins, but he won't become Robin until the following Christmas. And only after he saves Bruce because he's been captured by Scarecrow and is being tortured with fear toxin with Vikki Vale. Tim was ordered to stay home, but again, he is incapable to standing back and not helping when he thinks there's a problem (this is a good and heroic character trait). This time, he doesn't wear the costume because he can't bear the idea of failing in it, so he dons a ski mask and comes in, gets dosed with fear toxin while saving Batman and beating Scarecrow and runs away before the cops show. Tim believes this means he'll never be Robin, that Bruce will fire him from training, but at least Bruce is alive. When Tim explains this all to Bruce, Bruce says the rules are there for a reason, but sometimes it's okay to break them when justified and gives Tim a new Robin costume.
(Batman 1940 #457)
#dc comics#detective comics comics#batman#bruce wayne#tim drake#robin#spes talks#I cast “read the comics”#I am feral at the it's okay to break the rules bit#Look me in the eye Bruce#When Stephanie or Jason break the rules#There's trouble#But when Tim does it#it's fine#And like yes#Tim is the one making all the arguments that Bruce should let him be Robin#but he is high on having saved his heroes lives and escaped a fight with Two-Face#As soon as he has a second to calm down#after nearly getting crushed#he's back to well#I get it#I still think you need a Robin#but if you don't want me#that's fine#He's also 13#Alfred and Dick are whole-ass adults#instigating Tim being Robin#They literally put the thought in his head#so he can make the argument in the first place
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Bruce and Tim’s autistic asses have never made eye contact with each other in their lives
Like an interviewer comments lightly on his habit of adopting kids with black hair and blue eyes and he says, absent-mindedly, “Tim doesn’t have blue eyes,” to which the interviewer answers, with great confusion, that he most certainly does, and Bruce suddenly realizes he has never once looked at Tim’s eyes without the domino on and had just sort of assumed they were brown, statistically
#batfamily#dc#tim drake#bruce wayne#mine#he looks at the other kids’ eyes because he knows it’s important to them#but he took one glance at Tim and his ‘like me!!’ radar went off#he doesn’t *mind* that the others need eye contact. it’s not their fault that’s how their brains work#but there is a certain relief to being around Tim
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Thinking about DP x DC Jason Todd being a revenant again. Here's my scenario. Jason gets called that by some ghost. He's like "what the fuck is that supposed to mean?" He's heard the term before but he doesn't know any actual lore. He googles it. He scrolls past the Leonardo DiCaprio bear movie. He opens the wiki. Sees the words "animated corpse" and gets a chill diwn his spine. He starts reading the first section.

He closes Wikipedia.
That night he has a nightmare that his family buried him, again, this time with precautions. He wakes up in his own grave, full of stones, too heavy to move, to scream.
#CANT STOP THINKING ABOUT THIS#like reading this section in the context of jason is SO HORRIFYING#the idea of someone knowing it was possible for him to come back. to wake up down there. and wanting to keep him there#stay dead. we want you dead. you're too troublesome alive. you're meant to be down there.#so anyways. jason internalizing all this shit and feeling uncomfortable in his own body because he's thinking of it as a corpse#and of himself as haunting a place he doesn't belong#and then meeting danny and danny says 'wow you're a revenant aren't you! The dead so restless they can't bear to stay in their graves'#and he smiles. 'You're amazing. Your will is so strong'#and the Ghost King tells Jason 'You're alive but that doesn't mean you aren't one of mine. I will come for you'#and batman says 'we will keep you safe from that entity and his threats. you don't belong to him'#and jason says 'he didn't mean i was his possession. he said i was his responsibility. he said he would help me if i ever needed him'#and bruce sees the faraway look in his son's eyes and doesn't know what to say#okay I'm done#for now#dp x dc#dpxdc#revenant jason todd#danny phantom#dc#batfam#jason todd#my rambles#my writing
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no thoughts head empty de-aged blood blossom danny
if ONLY because i was at work yesterday out in the play yard and one of the babies from the one year old room walked up to me, held up her arms and went "up. up" and i caved like a wet fucken nOODLE and im inflicting that onto Bruce
so im just picturing like, roughly 18mo Danny, just absolutely teeny, walking up to Bruce in the Batman suit, grabbing his cape and pulling on it to get his attention or plastering himself to the side of his legs (<- real experience i've had) and when Bruce looks down at him Danny just goes "Bah-man, bah-man. Up."
and im teLLING YOU. Bruce would cave in a fucking heartbeat.
or if he crouches down, Danny will just crawl onto him anyways. wraps both arms around his neck and tries to raise his leg over his knee so he can wrap himself around his waist (<- ALSO A REAL EXPERIENCE I'VE HAD)
also he can't fully articulate himself yet, he doesn't have all of his teeth quite yet and phonetics are harD, so he can't say Bruce it just sounds like "boo" or "booce" like 'boost' but without the 't'.
#danny fenton is not the ghost king#dpxdc crossover#dpxdc#blood blossom au#dpxdc au#making aus of my aus? its more likely than you think#anywyas mini crack au i had an idea for and felt like sharing aklsjhf#look it took me SO long to learn how to not cave to smol children asking me politely for uppies but oh my god is it a struggle#like maybe its just coz i love being around kids but it KILLS me. i cant say no. Bruce is experiencing my troubles coz fuck him (lovingly)#also danny does the thing where upon being picked up he immediately lays his head on bruce's shoulder and tucks his face into the crook of#his neck <- also a real experience i've had and i swear to god its a spiritual experience. like ooh my god this small teeny human trusts me#enough to just completely relax in my hold. im going to Die For You Now. the endorphin rush is something ELSE. like HI. HELLO SMALL HUMAN#bruce: do you wanna get down? | bby danny tightening his grip: noo#also when a child doesnt wanna get put down they WILL CLIING to you and try to climb back up you afterwards#i dont have an approximate timeline or reason as to why danny got de-aged this is purely in my nebulous sandbox of ideas i had.#is he poisoned too in this form?? maybe. if he is he's like 10x clingier because he's in a lot of pain and exhausted and its a lot for#his child-sized mind. poor bby. if he's not poisoned. he's still clingy he's just not AS clingy. even if he has all his memories i imagine#that physically and developmentally he has the mind of a 18mo so its a lot of input for his mind to handle.#anyways: *kills bruce with cuteness aggression* danny has the CHUBBIEST cheeks as a wee babe. the biggest bluest eyes too
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so i had a thought after buying a dragon from a friend

bruce the parrotlet and his "eating dome"
#flight rising#was solely bc the dragon i bought which was supposed to look like a volcano had berry firebreather#so after thinking abt it i was reminded of Bruce and his eating dome#surprised i didn't find a dragon referencing this tbh#was gonna see if i can find a breed that eats plants and use that when i get the project going#but coatl is bird-like to me bc it has fully feathered wings hence the example being a coatl lol#would have to rent a shadow nest later to get the eye color right once i get close ranges to lend but that's for later me to figure out
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Wait so if Deku is Clark, does that mean Kacchan is Bruce?



YES.
#I dare you to look me right in my eyes and tell me 20something y/o bakugou WOULDNT be adopting sassy children#smh#my art#ask#bnha#mha#Boku no hero academia#my hero academia#katsuki bakugou#Bruce Wayne#Batman
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If I had a nickel for every time Bruce was drawn so pretty that batcat looks like a sapphic couple I’d have two nickels which isn’t a lot but it’s fantastic for my batcat Yuri agenda that it happens twice
#look me in the eye and tell me that’s not a beautiful butch4butch relationship#I’ll wait#Bruce Wayne#batcat#batman#Selina Kyle#dc comics#dcu#Catwoman
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An idea cuz I'm currently obsessed with my own babybat au (but this is not about it),
If Clark and Bruce had meet before the alley tragedy, their dynamic can be flip, Que 7 years old (maybe younger) bright Bruce Wayne that's very curious of things and so optimistic, smile can rival the sun itself and genuinely a sweet little thing (can also be a demon but usually people are none the wiser cuz LOOK AT THAT PUPPY EYES!!) meet 8-9 year old Clark, that perhaps newly discovered his powers and are still trying to control (hide) it, a bit timid but still sweet and is just generally more shy than who he is as an adult.
Bruce, easily excited of new things, jumped on the taller country boy : you can fly!? Show me! Show me!
Clark, startled by the big icy blue eyes looking at him with pure adoration and don't know what to do: Uhhhh sure?
Hardcut to them crashing to a pile of dry wheat somewhere in the farm
#Excited puppy Bruce is very dear to me#He can't control his excited when he's little and every emotions genuinely like it'd burst out of him#Meanwhile Clark was stunned. Conflicted but also very very weak to those big eyes... stop!! He can't say no!!!#superbat#Does his count as tooth rotting fluff?#I swear I don't usually a fluff kind of guy but I'm having a mega fixation on little Bruce rn and I need to SPILL IT#I headcanon that Clark at that age was where he's feeling the most troubled of his duo-identity#And Bruce being little Bruce makes it easier to deal with cuz if someone can look at him like that big round eyes#Then.. It'll all be okay right? Yeah. Yeah#venus rambling#superman#batman#clark kent#bruce wayne
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Danny as Fenton takes a hit that no human boy should survive while in a different city (im going crossover here) and just transforms into phantom and pretends to be all sad that he died. Just for a moment. He then proceeds to kick the baddies ass. Claims he got ghost powers and fucks off. Imagine if Captain America or Batman saw this while failing ti protect him, hell or any hero type. Danny doesn’t think much on it and just goes on with his week. Continues being Fenton of course but what if he runs into whatever hero, but out if costume, saw him do that.
“How are you here? And alive?”
Danny holding a smoothie:”uhhhh I made a miraculous recovery”
He just shrugs it off and goes about his day. It isn’t until he finally gets some sleep later that night that he wakes up in a cold sweat realising he now knows their secret identity. “Oh well it’s neat I guess” starts to go back to sleep only to bolt back up “oh god now they know my secret identity”
Meanwhile said hero is too busy trying to figure out how to help this random kid to even be worried about the fact that they outed themselves. Someone else probably points it out to them and has to explain it twice before it gets thru.
#danny phantom#crossovers#dp x mcu#dpxdc#dp x dc#I like to use batman a lot cause his need to protect these kids probably makes him a little stupid#like imagine him in the batcave looking into fenton now and nightwing comes in starts asking about it#only to have to find out that bruce basically told the kid hes batman#except bruce is tired and worried so he isnt getting it#no B I mean like how does bruce wayne know the kid died. only batman saw it#if you are trying to make some sort of joke it’s not working. now please excuse me I have to figure this out#a sigh and facepalm#B imagine what the kid is gonna think when bruce wayne asks him how he is alive but batman watched him die.#slowly bruce stops typing and leans back from the computer#he freezes#eyes widening#a soft but sharp intake#oh#yea oh B geeze you must be tired if it took this long for you to get ut#bruce with his head in his hands realising he just messed up big time#maybe he should get more sleep after all#as for the mcu I would like to think it was hawkeye or hulk#I like hulk cause it’s also a bruce but I like hawkeye more. guy is very comfort character#clint just kid I saw you die now why don’t you explain that#danny giving him nothing till clints like come on it’s kinda messed up letting me think I let a kid die isnt it.#oh poor me loosing so much sleep watching a young boy become a ghost. I could hardly go on#danny rolls his eyes laying it on a little thick arent we old man#gasp! I will have you know I am only (insert haskeyes age here)#geeze you are waaayyy okder than I thought
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When Jason shots Scarecrow and free Bruce in Arkham Knight, he already has a red bat painted on his militia fit, WHICH MEANS, after being defeated by Batman, he went around Gotham looking for red paint to mark himself as one of the bats. This boy. He wanted Bruce to look at him in the eyes when he died, but the moment they do look at each other in the eyes for more than a couple of seconds, Jason folded and went back to being an ally of Batman. The months/year of torture did not stand a chance to having his dad calling him Robin and asking him to come home. And I think Jason knew that the moment he revealed himself and saw Bruce's reaction, because during their fight, Jason keeps trying to keep his distance, doesn't look at Bruce for long and refuses to listen to him. He thought it was going to be easy, but the moment he was facing his dad and saw the emotions on his face, he started losing determination in his vengeance.
But also, Bruce not being able to punch the Knight because he can see Jason's face. He is looking in the eyes of his son and he cannot punch his son!
#jason todd#arkham knight#batman#bruce wayne#batman arkham knight#arkhamverse#my ramblings#dc comics#arkhamverse Jason my poor lil meow meow I love you#Btw I don't care that the arkhamverse is against letting Bruce adopts these kids they are called his family IN GAME#so fuck that that's his sons!#who will win?#months of torture vs your dad looking at you in the eyes telling you he missed you?#Arkhamverse Jason be like: War over Dad said he loves me#btw the english va performance for Jason is pure art it's so good the emotions are raw
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Reverse Robin AU
Tim, pissed that he got replaced as Robin, decides to kidnap Jason and go off grid. He bribes him with books, plenty of online literature classes, and Alfred's signed approval.
When Bruce debuts with 9 year old Dick Grayson, Tim pulls the same stunt. He has a nursery set up for Zitka, though.
#dc comics#dc universe#tim drake#dc robin#jason todd#dick grayson#reverse robins#dc au#batfam au#tim sees bruce's children and vetoes the man's adoption#tim legit looks bruce in the eyes and says “for me? you shouldn't have” as he yanks child 7.3 away from Bruce#is tim a dad or a brother? yes#damian has visiting rights because he became a better brother after tim died#tim can get access to internet while living off grid in the middle of nowhere cause he's op like that#bruce wants to know how the hell tim knows each time he adopts a child and still is able to hide from bruce
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i think isolating the bats from their teams and external support systems is like….. functionally bad. like wdym red hood is on dicks speeddial but his actual soulmate donna troy isn’t. why is everyone in gotham. why do these people have no friends
#fic where the league never meets the bats and are super intimidated by them but somehow dick is still nightwing#every fic where people call jason for help instead of the titans or the bop#fic where wally hangs around dick 24/7 but there’s no linda or iris or the twins or hartley or anyone else mentioned#donna is just totally mia. roy is there for jason to get mad at or fight ollie for#kon waxes poetic about being a clone but is otherwise an accessory to tim#the bats are so smart and special and league is so afraid of them as if everyone doesn’t collectively think bruce is cringe#cass is in hong kong. again. for some reason#no one knows who garth is#look me in the eyes and tell me guy gardner would give a shit about bruce waynes menacing aura
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STOP PUTTING BRUCE NIGHTWING ON MY TIMELINE I CAN'T DO IT,,,, PLEASE HAVE MERCY ON ME I CAN'T DO IT I CAN'T LOOK AT IT IM BEGGING Y'ALL,,,, IM BEGGING,,, IM ON MY KNEES,,,
#erinwantstowrite#bruce nightwing#GET IT AWAY FROM ME#putting my hands over my ears shutting me eyes screaming LALALAA at the top of my lungs#if i don't look at it it's not happening!!!!
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Today’s daily Nick Robles Jason Todd Post
Hello Sir looking like a mob boss we love that for you, sweetie
Everyone say thank you Nick Robles

Art By: Nick Robles
#batman#jason todd#red hood#batfam#nick robles jason todd#nick robles#looking like a whole ass snack#ugh the blood stains#the ripped clothes#what happened to you my poor baby#his eyes are so soft 🥹#and sad my poor baby#he is so babygirl#he is so beautiful#fuck me with the crowbar#oops who said that#not me#I would never#anyway can I sit on his face?#ride his thighs?#please?#what do those hands do BBY#batman wayne family adventures#tim drake#dick grayson#jason#red robin#bwfa#bruce wayne#the red hood
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tim should be one of the funniest character of all time when bruce starts acting like that loner, depressed, pushing people away man. like this isn't the teenage boy that pulled a grown ass man out of his depression after he lost his son. tim is supposedly the most like batman? fine so he knows what works. from personal experience. all tim has to do is smack that man on the head and scream at him to act right. (bonus about this is bruce can't say shit, bc they both just know; they both lock eyes and all timmy has to do is squint his eyes like a disappointed mother, daring him to try.)
keep in mind that tim will sit there pretending like azael didn't choke him out at all of 16, causing him to take a car and run out of the cave in fear; you think tim gives a fuck if bruce's fee fees start to get to him? no! it's called compartmentalizing bruce, schedule your attacks when you're free. thus, tim "bruce can you lock the fuck in" drake is taking no prisoners when something goes wrong and this man pushing 50 dressing like a rodent is having an unneeded anxiety attack from stress he caused on himself. meanwhile, there's a MAN BAT INFESTATION, LET US HELP!!!
#but when all of that doesn't work tim will just blast the most annoying i hate authority punk music. looking bruce square in the eyes.#for those who dont know or have forgotten. yes azael was filling in for batman when he lost it a little and tried to kill tim#it was in tims solo robin run from the early 90s btw#dont ask for the issue number. idfk#tim drake and death are not so much acquaintance but that annoying kid they keep trying to keep away from the grave#but that shit is like quicksand for timothy jackson drake. like he doesn't want to be there either. but his foot is caught all the same.#tim drake#bruce wayne#text#dc#red robin#batman#batfamily#i think tim being a little bit of a brat is funny#this kid listened to punk music. and dc still expects me to think hes a goody two shoes. like babe...#i read the red robin 2011 run
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Do you ever think about how Bruce and Donna's deaths changed Dick in different types of ways?
#''i look for you in the center of the sun. i took a pill but it didn't help me numb. i see your face even when my eyes are shut...#but i never really know just where to find you.''#Bruce Wayne#Dick Grayson#Donna Troy
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