#Scarnemo ship

[artbounddude]

Nemona is down for whatever Scarlet has on her agenda!

[jazbell]

this is stupid why did i draw this

[shielpiers]

thank u sv pokespe for the food

[do-you-ship-it-polls]

Do you ship it?

This ship is based on the manga version. If you don't know the manga, you can vote "I don't know the characters".

reason: They are the perfect definition of opposites attract(imo)

[lyra664]

Day 3 of drawing characters dancing for no apparent reason.

Scarnemo is a very cute ship, I hope it's canon 😭

[thefishinyourwalls]

Favorite pokespe ships ?

canisaysilfishcanisaysilfishcanisaysilfishitssilfish

okay actual answer? Im a multishipper, so a lot of fuckin silver ships LMAO! If we don’t count silfish as a real ship then my favorite would be preciousmetal, though I love viridian and specialjewel too! Only silver ships I really don’t like are Chosenshipping and any ship with silver and an adult.

IF WE ARENTTT TALKING ABOUT SILVER, then like I had mentioned in the previous ask I do like specialshipping! Green (f) x Yellow (idk the name of it) has been one I’ve liked for a bit. Also a huge fan of corrupted and agency if we goin to Gen 5. I also ship Dia x Pearl x Plat (entourage? Is that the name?) OH AND OF COURSE RUSA/FRANTIC…. Haven’t read sv but I ship scarnemo, aannddd also while not as much as special I ship nameless… oh and before I found out about yellow I had shipped Red x Misty (whatever that one is called)

long story short I ship a lot of damn ships

[destiny-smasher]

Out of curiosity, any thoughts on Nemona x Juliana?

Julian isn't an actual CHARACTER, not even surface level Pokemon Masters style (yet?). So I support it in the sense of a 'canon' queer ship that gets soft backed by official media such as the light novel In the Rain With You, and the corresponding music video Biri Biri that was made based on it. (though technically that is 'Anna' not 'Juliana' but they are functionally the same blank space protag)

I repost fanart and stuff of JuliNemo and support it because the idea of it is positive, and I have my own personal headcanons for who 'Juliana' is, but there's like. No real substance there. So my support of the ship is surface level positive.

It's KINDA simlar to my feelings on Suletta x Miorine (WItch From Mercury) in that I support it on a surface level and am glad it's so represented -- but a key difference there is the characters are defined and I have deeply seated personal experience that gives me negative feelings/caution about them as a longterm couple. (For the record, this is also why I actively dislike Chloe/Rachel from Life is Strange as a longterm ship) But I'll still post SuliMio art to support a 'canon' gay ship for solidarity's sake.

Nemona/Scarlet is in a similar boat as Suletta/Miorine, though because of my friendship with @scarnemo I've warmed up to it, the same way she seems to be warming up to Nemona/Penny (and both us to the three of them as a polycule).

But again, Scarlet is a defined character - and unlike SuleMio, we have not seen that story play out fully yet, it feels more like, I dunno, 1/4-1/3 told? Or something?

Regardless, I need more than 'they're gayyyyy' to genuinely care about a ship, friendhsip, or any kind of relationship. I can still enjoy the aesthetic of a ship on a surface level, regardless, and will more often than not support it in that aesthetic way, for solidarity's sake, even if it doesn't do anything for me personally.

That said, I have seen some fanworks that do add substance to Nemona x Juliana and I've enjoyed those.

But my heart is more pinned on Nemona x Penny as #1 and Nemona x Scarlet as #2, I would say.

TLDR;

Surface level support, but 'meh' overall because Juliana is literally not an actual character so much as a character design.

[destiny-smasher]

You'll prolly be seeing me posting a lot about NemoPen (StarFruit Shipping) but I'm also reading the manga and am interested to see where this potential ship goes! And I fully support it, too. I've even already written a ScarNemo scene, hah, but it'll be a while before it's posted.

treasured rival

[destiny-smasher]

A ScarNemo shipper I know well recently mischaracterized me as having 'no faith in this ship' Let me clear. I believe in the IDEA of Nemona and Scarlet, as friends specifically, but also as potentially more. But I do NOT have faith in the MANGA satisfying me, personally, in its interpretation as such.

And based on what has been WRITTEN, in ink, so far, in this manga, the relationship up to this point is actively unhealthy for both of them. And that is more Scarlet's fault than Nemona's, because Nemona is trying her best and being hella supportive, and Scarlet is being stubborn and cold and needlessly rude and even putting Nemona in danger. It's very imbalanced.

I do expect the manga will gradually improve things between them.

I am just saying that AS OF RIGHT NOW, I do not think romanticizing these two, as they exist in the manga up to this point, is an ideal romance by any stretch.

By all means, though, I think they're a great couple IN POTENTIAL.

And I have already done some writing of my own to scratch at just a small amount of that potential. (And I am about to post links to some positive ScarNemo content I have written btw)

Just don't expect to see much if anything from me in the future backing this ship -- not because I don't see potential in it, but because its canon thus far hasn't inspired faith in me, based on my real life experiences both at their age range and into adulthood.

(Nemona getting totally blown off and stonewalled once again and trying to shrug it off once again, she's so determined! </3)

Since people on the Internet get fussy with this shit, let me state upfront these are my opinions, from the perspective of someone who shares a lot of personality traits in common with Nemona and used to be a lot like her in my younger years. Nemona's lying when she says Scarlet's behavior and needless secrecy doesn't bother her at all. She keeps enduring the neglect (and sometimes straight up abuse), because she thinks that's what Scarlet needs atm. It's hard to say how things will pan out atm imo.

The manga mischaracterizes Nemona in some ways for me -- or I guess it's more proper to say, I do not think the way the manga characterizes Nemona is as positive as the games. The manga so far really makes her out to be less mature, less healthy mentally/emotionally, and kind of a pushover who actively lets others step all over her. I don't prefer it lol

She experiences an 'invisible wall' between herself and everyone else. And Scarlet's behavior so far in PokeSpe would only exacerbate that -- BUT, the two could clearly have a very meaningful bonding if they both stick things through, in a way the game version of Nemona doesn't because the story forces the protag to more just go along with everything.

I want to believe the manga will eventually have Nemona learn to adapt to Scarlet, Scarlet slowly open herself up to Nemona over time, start doing GOOD for her in return, and heaven forbid, maybe even apologize for mistreating Nemona -- though I don't expect the latter for sure.

It can be very exhausting and draining to endure what Nemona is enduring, but if you have that determination and willpower to put up with someone's worse traits because you see the good in them, sometimes it's good to use that to be there for the other person.

Everyone's struggles are unique and people exhibit their flaws in different ways. Nemona is "too much" and Scarlet pushes back in hostile ways. Their personalities are potentially toxic for one another, tbqh, but there's so much value imo in them bridging that gap.

The core of most fictional relationships I genuinely care about and many of my real life ones is the idea of bridging the understanding gap, through communication and gestures and time spent together, where there is mutual growth and reassurance.

Because of how I've been mistreated in the past, it's REALLY difficult for me to look at Nemona/Scarlet even just as friends and not be very worried about them. They're not self-aware yet, much less mature enough to navigate their differences. But they COULD be.

Many of the most edifying and growth-defining relationships of my life were due to stark differences in personality being reconciled with mutual care, assurance, trust, and just plain holding on. I think these two can totally reach that. I just don't know if they WILL here.

Because the fact is, Scarlet's behavior is hurtful. She clearly has reasons she is this way, and sometimes you just gotta get that shit out. And having people strong enough to endure that shit can be valuable, even if you don't realize it at the time. But it's a fine line.

Scarlet seems to be dealing with mental health issues, or at the least neurodivergency -- and Nemona at least has the latter going on, too. That creates a lot of tension. But that also means they can be there for each other in a meaningful way if they can work that shit out.

At the current rate they're going, however, Scarlet's behavior isn't improving so far. It's like she just gets to be a jerk and 'get away with it' and everyone is supposed to be fine with that? Doesn't settle well with me, and Nemona sure doesn't deserve this treatment.

But at the same time, Nemona IS one of those rare people with the willpower and stubborn determination to keep being there for Scarlet in spite of things not going well for a while -- even a long while. She sees the good in Scarlet even if Scarlet doesn't.

The manga has NOT done much at all so far to sell us on Scarlet/Nemona working out even just as friends, but it feels deliberate how their dynamic has been set up. So I want to have hope there, but it does remind me a bit too much of stuff from my past, so I get trepidatious.

In a way, part of Operation Comet Punch (my long fic) entails exploring that very trepidation and (I hope) coming up with at least one 'version' of reconciling things in a healthy, mutually supportive way for everyone involved (and that goes beyond just Nemona and Scarlet).

I hope the manga can figure out ways to do this, too. Because I like the idea of Nemona and Scarlet at least becoming good friends over time. It's just difficult to see right now if you're being pragmatic.

"Desma this is a manga primarily targeting middle school boys wtf are you talking about"

Look, between my own fanfic about these characters and my real life experiences, I can't help but analyze and try to be optimistic on all fronts. I get triggered a bit by 'toxic yuri' and this is reminding me of that, but I want to believe in it EVOLVING beyond that (pun intended). And I know it can.

[destiny-smasher]

(Not actually a pokespe fic, but taking a main character from the manga and adapting to the game’s version of events)

And while it is a NemoPen fic, it’s also definitely got ScarNemo elements going on under the surface, I guess I’ll say that much. I also value the potential of Nemona/Scarlet as friends more importantly than romance (which is how I feel about almost all the ships I like, actually).

Meta commentary? What meta commentary...?

“Hah. That's my Rival-In-The-Making, for ya.” Nemona swiped a hook at thin air. “Takin' on giant, crazed Pokemon like it's... no big deal.” “It's kinda not. You'd think it would be, but... Engh,” Scarlet shrugged, trailing off. “And, erh. Between all this Gym training crap, it's... kinda nice to just... spend some time in nature. And whatever.” “Oh, for sure! Paldea's got so much to offer, doesn't it?” Nemona pumped her elbows down to her hips, trying to keep the mood up. “It-...” Scarlet blinked off to the side, then back to Nemona. “I mean. 'S got a lotta... hiking trails, I guess... Not even well kept ones, to be honest. With how much money rolls through some o' these towns, you'd think they could at least keep the damn roads functional...” At Scarlet's blunt critique, Nemona felt herself shrink a little bit. She supposed it was easier to see the flaws when you hadn't grown up here. Scarlet kept ranting, “Big surprise, there, not like I couldn't find miles of hiking trails where I came from... Tons of open space, sure, but... nothing much to do in Paldea, huh?” Nemona was feeling dragged down by Scarlet's mood, here, and opted to keep maintaining the optimistic approach. “Wh-?! Sure, there is! You can battle to your heart's content, for a start!” “Rrrright. Pick fights with strangers just moping around in the middle of nowhere? I'll pass. Mainly, though, just need to keep finding as much treasure as I can. Don't really care where it comes from. But the stronger my team is, the easier it'll be to find more. So. Yeah.” Scarlet bobbed their head sideways and pinched some water drops from the little tuft of bangs they had. “Of course!” Nemona encouraged. “So you can graduate some day—fulfill the Treasure Hunt and everything?” “Uh... Sure.” Something about the way they'd said it made Nemona suspect something else was up. When it came to the Treasure Hunt, they'd get real cagey, though Nemona couldn't figure out what kind of secret they had to hide about it. She knew better than to pry—she'd hate it if Letty was prying into her personal life, after all... Nemona tried to push things onward, this was giving her such a bad vibe... She felt like something was off but was too scared to draw attention to it. It stung a little, knowing that Scarlet, brand new to Paldea, was already making all these friends and stuff, going off on trips and whatever? Meanwhile, Nemona was so wrapped up with keeping up her grades, maintaining her reputation, handling Student Council business, and training up her multiple teams... She just didn't have, like... people? Individual, specific people, that she wanted to spend time with? Why and how did Scarlet become this exception to the rule? She just needed to keep spending time with them, regardless. That was all that mattered, really. She wouldn't bother putting much thought into it until she needed to. The excitement, the buzz, that was all she could focus on for now.

Excerpt of a flashback from a future chapter of my Pokemon fic. You can read what I've posted so far here (it's NemoPen fic btw).

My heart breaks for Nemona tbqh, I have so been there, gurl