#Stanley milgram

[zodiacatsea]

Scott Milgram vs. the psych board of ethics

[fourdiagnosesinatrenchcoat]

I love the inherent silliness of a show that names the villain in a psych study related episode "Zilgram."

[outofeverythingthisnamewasleft]

[wordshaveteeth]

This [kind of] language is not merely picturesque anthropomorphism. It reflects a profound shift in perception about the relationship of computers to humans. If computers can become ill, then they can become healthy. Once healthy, they can think clearly and make decisions. The computer, it is implied, has a will, has intentions, has reasons—which means that humans are relieved of responsibility for the computer’s decisions. Through a curious form of grammatical alchemy, the sentence “We use the computer to calculate” comes to mean “The computer calculates.” If a computer calculates, then it may decide to miscalculate or not calculate at all. That is what bank tellers mean when they tell you that they cannot say how much money is in your checking account because “the computers are down.” The implication, of course, is that no person at the bank is responsible. Computers make mistakes or get tired or become ill. Why blame people? We may call this line of thinking an “agentic shift,” a term I borrow from Stanley Milgram to name the process whereby humans transfer responsibility for an outcome from themselves to a more abstract agent. When this happens, we have relinquished control, which in the case of the computer means that we may, without excessive remorse, pursue ill-advised or even inhuman goals because the computer can accomplish them or be imagined to accomplish them.

- Neil Postman, Technopoly: The Surrender of Culture to Technology

[despertarsabiendo]

El experimento de Milgram: ¿Hasta dónde obedecerías a una autoridad?

¿Puede un ser humano cometer atrocidades solo por obedecer órdenes? Esta pregunta ha resonado desde los crímenes del Tercer Reich hasta conflictos modernos. ¿Qué ocurre cuando la autoridad se impone sobre la conciencia moral? Para investigarlo, el psicólogo Stanley Milgram, de la Universidad de Yale, diseñó en 1961 uno de los experimentos más famosos de la psicología social. Quería saber hasta…

[el-candelabro]

El Experimento de Milgram: La Psicología de la Obediencia y el Poder de la Autoridad

[howardhawkshollywoodannex]

Peter Sarsgaard as psychologist Stanley Milgram in a scene with rear projection in Experimenter (2015).

Experimenter (2015) was written and directed by Michael Almereyda. Mike was born in Overland Park, Kansas, and has 28 director credits from a 1985 short to Tesla (2020).

His other notable credits include Twister, Hamlet (2000), and an episode of Deadwood.

[buggirl-lunesta]

kinda drives me crazy how people are like “this doesnt make sense yuno doesnt belong in milgram” as if this is the first time they are considering this and as if she is the only prisoner this applies to. like only half the prisoners have been shown to have physically killed anyone, and it has been so clear from the beginning that jackalope’s perception of murder is extremely flawed. sorry if the fuckass rabbit’s cop costume led you to believe that he is an authority on what constitutes a murderer but it might be time to start using your brain. in milgram it does not matter if you are innocent as long as enough people believe you’re guilty. the injustice is the point and it always has been.

[th3-past3l-cl0wn]

THE MILGRAM EXPERIMENT

Gravity Falls 196X, two young men freshly out of Backupsmore University's college have started working on a new experiment

Other versions

[ireton]

Beginning on 7 August 1961, a series of social psychology experiments were conducted by Yale University psychologist Stanley Milgram, who intended to measure the willingness of study participants to obey an authority figure who instructed them to perform acts conflicting with their personal conscience. Participants were led to believe that they were assisting an unrelated experiment, in which they had to administer electric shocks to a "learner". These fake electric shocks gradually increased to levels that would have been fatal had they been real.

[fantazfoo]

Some Magma doodles of Fandoms I like.

Hatsune Miku from Vocaloid, Mukuhara Kazui from Milgram, The Batter (bad) from OFF, and Narrator and Stanley from TSP.

[libraryraccoon]

I'm bored so 10 characters that gave me gender envy on a scale of 1 to 10.

Sebastian Solace (Pressure). That damn fish... It's the voice and the height I swear- 9/10

Phainon (HSR). Just look at him. The face, the eyes, the hair, the voice, the height... he got it all. 10/10

Caelus (HSR). Same as Phainon, 10/10

Es (Milgram). The face and the voice >>. 7.5/10

Clawd (Monster High). Even I don't know man. Saw him as a child and said "I want to be him." 6/10.

Spencer Reid (Criminal Minds). Do I even need to explain myself ?? 9.5/10

The Narrator (The Stanley Parable). It's the freaking voice again- 8/10

Newt Scamander (Fantastic Beasts). Again, do I really have to explain myself ?? 8.9/10

Percival (Gradalis). LOOK AT HIM. 8.5/10

Dr. Flug (Villainous). Don't ask. 10/10

Bonus !

11. Bill Cipher (Gravity Falls). THE VOICE. 7.3/10

12. The Axolotl (Gravity Falls). Appear in the book of Bill, and now I want to be that damn overpowered Axolotl- 8/10

13. Lilia Vanrouge General (Twisted Wonderland). Gender. 10/10

[milk-lover]

Y’all help me, my paper has a 5 page limit, section 1 of 4 is 3.5 pages already.

[colortracker]

no actually i imprisoned him myself. they lied about his death i took him hostage and now he writes all my posts for me

hey since it's pride month can i show you all my gay beach chair

[bestest-brackets]

Now the the qualifying round is over, It’s time for the official announcement!

Introducing…

The Most in Need of a Hug Bracket!!

This is by FAR the biggest bracket I’ve ever run

The first round will likely be posted on Friday, May 9, although it is finals week, so that is subject to change. If May 9 looks impossible I’ll let you know in advance.

Anyway, the full lineup is below the cut!

Most in in Need of a Hug Bracket

Cloud Strife (Final Fantasy VII) vs Coco (Witch Hat Atelier)

Mono (Little Nightmares II) vs Milo Thatch (Atlantis: The Lost Empire)

Hunter (The Owl House) vs Arthur Lester (Malevolent)

Jason Todd (DC Comics) vs Aoyama Mitsuo (Atarashii Joushi wa Do Tennen)

Bamora (Dandadan) vs Zelda (The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom)

Big Man (Splatoon 3) vs Dante Sparta (Devil May Cry)

Stanley (Spiritfarer) vs Sora (Kingdom Hearts)

Mizu (Blue Eye Samurai) vs Wheelbarrow (Monopoly)

Susie (Deltarune) vs Sunny (OMORI)

Kyle Milton (The WereCleaner) vs Klemper (Danny Phantom)

Misfortune Ramirez Hernandez (Little Misfortune) vs Sam Winchester (Supernatural)

Kissy Missy (Poppy Playtime) vs Haymitch Abernathy (The Hunger Games)

Frankensteins Monster (Frankenstein) vs Mizi (Alien Stage)

Yellow Guy (Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared) vs Taranza (Kirby)

Carlos De Vil (Descendants) vs Denji (Chainsaw Man)

Rocket Raccoon (MCU) vs Soren (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn)

Sigma (Bungo Stray Dogs) vs Shane (Stardew Valley)

Evan Kelmp (Misfits and Magic) vs Heinz Doofenshmirtz (Phineas and Ferb)

Alan Wake (Alan Wake) vs Sayori (Doki Doki Literature Club)

Peril (Wings of Fire) vs Kermit the Frog (Muppets)

Boy (Hunter: The Parenting) vs Kurode (Fragaria Memories)

Siffrin (In Stars and Time) vs Maia Drazhar (The Goblin Emperor)

James “Jim” Lake Jr (Tales of Arcadia) vs Emily Pope (Control)

Alluka Zoldyck & Nanika (Hunter x Hunter) vs Kiyotaka Ishimaru (Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc)

Sanji (One Piece) vs Tom (Paralympic Mascot)

Erik (The Phantom of the Opera) vs Dys (I was a Teenage Exocolonist)

Ray (The Princess and the Frog) vs Bumble (Warriors)

Neeko (League of Legends) vs Ruffian the Blue (A Hero’s Guide)

Starscream (Transformers) vs Gideon Nav (Gideon the Ninth)

Merlin (Merlin) vs Wylan van Eck (Six of Crows)

Count Bleck (Super Paper Mario) vs Varian (Tangled)

Nagasaki Soyo (BanG Dream!) vs Eustace Winner (Ace Attorney Investigations: Prosecutors Gambit)

Asahina Mafuyu (Project SEKAI: Colorful Stage) vs Silver the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog)

Molly Blyndeff (Epithet Erased) vs Jennifer (Rule of Rose)

Sakura Matou (Fate/stay Night) vs Towa (Slow Damage)

Jonathon Sims (The Magnus Archives) vs Hershel Layton (Professor Layton)

Thorfinn Karlsefni (Vinland Saga) vs Veronica Sawyer (Heathers the Musical)

The Princess (Slay the Princess) vs Crutchie Morris (Newsies)

Golden Cheese Cookie (Cookie Run Kingdom) vs John Thomas Ward (FAITH: The Unholy Trinity)

Deena (Nexomon) vs Serizawa Katsuya (Mob Psycho 100)

Nicky Little (Pepper Ann) vs Torbek (Once Upon a Witchlight)

Bryce Hanson (Hfj0NE) vs Zena (Dragalia Lost)

Kaladin Stormblessed (The Stormlight Archive) vs Mark Heathcliff (The Mandela Catalogue)

Beatriz (“Autistic? Me?”) vs Adrien Agreste (Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Chat Noir)

Shang Qinghua (The Scum Villain’s Self-serving System) vs Arven (Pokémon Scarlet and Violet)

Nina Tucker (Fullmetal Alchemist) vs Violet Baudelaire (A Series of Unfortunate Events)

Hatake Kakashi (Naruto) vs Shoko Nishiyama (Koe no Katachi)

Kang Tae-jun (Akatsuki no Yona) vs Angela Orosco (Silent Hill 2)

Ruby Rose (RWBY) vs Venom Snake (Metal Gear Solid V)

Yassen Gregorvitch (Alex Rider) vs Ceroba Ketsukane (Undertale Yellow)

Gordon Freeman (Half-life) vs Jay Halstead (Chicago PD)

Amane Momose (MILGRAM) vs Senshi (Dungeon Meshi)

Glisten (Dandy’s World) vs Homura Akemi (Puella Magi: Madoka Magica)

Serial Designation J (Murder Drones) vs Lestat de Lioncourt (Interview with a Vampire)

Israel “Izzy” Hands (Our Flag Means Death) vs Falco Grice (Attack on Titan)

Vinicius (Olympic Mascot) vs Stanford Pines (Gravity Falls)

The Doctor (Doctor Who) vs Medkit (Phighting)

Isaac (The Binding of Isaac) vs Rob (The Amazing World of Gumball)

Monroe (Grimm) vs Jane Doe (Ride the Cyclone)

Alex Fierro (Magnus Chase) vs Lucas (Mother 3)

Flowey (Undertale) vs Frodo Baggins (Lord of the Rings)

Evan “Buck” Buckley (9-1-1) vs Nanami Kento (Jujutsu Kaisen)

Harrier du Bois (Disco Elysium) vs Zuko (Avatar: The Last Airbender)

Romano (Hetalia) vs Michitaka Sakai (Kono Oto Tomare!)

[accirax]

Meta Voting, Milgram, and Why You Should Inno Sweep Trial 3

One thing that I've always admired about MILGRAM is how clearly and frequently the series reiterates that you can vote whichever way you like for whatever reasons you like. A genuine judgment of the crime, an attempt to reach a "happy ending," what most benefits your fave, a ritual to get concert tickets-- as Jackalope says, all of these are equally valid ways to participate in the MILGRAM project. The anything-goes policy makes it really easy to introduce the series to new people, as you can assure them that there's no "wrong" way to vote. Everything is open for discussion, as the project itself refuses to railroad you towards one conclusion or another.

... So, with that philosophy as the project's baseline, why have Deco and Yamanaka tried to stop us from voting everyone innocent in Trial 3?

Many people in the MILGRAM fandom have seen and internalized the message from Yamanaka that "if we vote everyone innocent in Trial 3, they'll show us hell." However, I've begun to question whether this is advice we're really meant to follow.

As most MILGRAM fans already know, the MILGRAM project is based off of the real-life experiments performed by Stanley Milgram in 1961. In it, real college students were brought in to perform in an experiment alongside (unbeknownst to them) actors. All of the students were assigned the role of "teachers," and all of the actors were assigned the role of "learners." The learners were brought into an interrogation room, where they were hooked up to (fake) electric torture devices operated by the teachers. The "experimenters" (the scientists running the study) would tell the teachers to continuously shock the learners any time they failed to correctly repeat memorized content, with the punishments getting more and more drastic with each failure. In reality, the experiment attempted to test how much a person would be willing to hurt others while under the instruction of someone seemingly knew better. The results of Stanley Milgram's study showed that the teachers became very willing to hurt other people because someone told them to do so.

MILGRAM recreates this setup with its characters. Our ten prisoners are the learners, and while they aren't actors, their fictional nature fulfills the same purpose as the actors, making it so that no one is really being harmed through the results of our votes. Jackalope is the experimenter, because he's the one telling us to cast the votes, while Es is the teacher, as the person following instructions with very little context. Or at least, this is what the project wants us to believe.

In MILGRAM, it's pretty clear that, while Es is a person in their own right, they're also the stand-in for us as the audience. Obviously, we as real-life people are the ones actually casting the votes for who's innocent and who's guilty on the MILGRAM website and app. But that meta aspect of the project is also directly referred to within the project itself, as Es struggles with their identity as a person instead of a thought collective in many of the audio dramas. Therefore, in relation to the Milgram experiment, I would argue that we, the viewers are the equivalent to the Milgram experiment's "teachers," not Es. They're more so, like, the button that's being pressed.

However, if we're willing to accept that Es as their own entity isn't really the one being tested by the voting system, then I think we need to consider whether Jackalope as his own entity is really the one who's testing us with the voting system. Us viewers aren't really being jerked around and told to vote by the cartoon rabbit himself; we're being told to participate in the show's direction via our votes by the real-life creators of the project, Deco and Yamanaka. Thus, Jackalope is not the experimenter in this metaphor, Deco and Yamanaka are. And these experimenters have only given us one steadfast rule: "don't vote everyone innocent in Trial 3.

Hurt these characters because we told you to do so."

If the teachers in the real Milgram project wanted to "beat" the system, they needed to take a stand for themselves and say that enough was enough, refusing to administer lethal electric shocks to the learners. While Jackalope hasn't really told us to do anything, Deco and Yamanaka have. Therefore, I theorize that if we want to "beat" MILGRAM and get the best possible ending, we have to vote all of the characters innocent in the third trial. While refusing to pass verdicts by giving everyone an even 50:50 would probably be even better, the odds of that happening are basically impossible, so to the extent that MILGRAM was built with a win condition in mind, I think this has to be it.

While it might seem scary to directly defy authority in that way, deciding against defying authority was exactly how the Milgram experiment's teachers failed the test of kindness that was put before them. Not to mention, choosing forgiveness seems to fit with the question Undercover posits of whether it's really okay to judge/punish someone based merely on your own opinion, and an interview I saw once (but couldn't find again, sorry) where Yamanaka said that one of his goals with Milgram was to get his audience to think harder about so-called "villains" they might see on the news or the internet, and what circumstances might have led them into that situation.

As someone who self-identifies as a meta voter in MILGRAM, it's my belief that the heart of meta voting has always been an attempt to help everyone. We didn't vote Amane guilty in T1 or Muu guilty in T2 because we hated them, but because we thought that telling Amane that the methodology of her church was wrong and reeling back Muu's blame-shifting would be the best thing for their personal growth. Even if we were seemingly very, very wrong about what was best in some circumstances, every choice was made in an attempted act of love.

For any fellow meta-voters who feel the same (or non-meta voters who are willing to dip their toes into voting meta-textually for the sake of the characters' happiness), I encourage you to vote everyone innocent in Trial 3, as I believe it's the most likely path to the happiest ending we have available to us. It's scary to throw the prisoners we've tried so hard to protect directly into the line of fire of something we've been told is "hell," but hopefully this little essay has managed to convince you that that "hell" might just be a false premise designed to keep us in line.

Thank you for reading, and here's to a non-soul-crushing T3~!