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Well. Finally got pulled into the Mouthwashing fixation lol. It was only a matter of time.
So like- I’m in this weird middle ground right now where my head is still stuck in a dc fixation and now Mouthwashing is there too. Like, I can’t think of one without the other. This is wild.
Anyways uhhh yeah. Mouthwashing is a really good and well-written game and I could probably write an essay just analyzing it 👍
#Rambles#Mouthwashing#Dc#Crazy events are happening in my head rn#I have no control over it#This happens whenever I get two hyperfixations at once#I have to somehow find a way to think of them both#Through like. Yeah. Crossovers#Anyways mind being silly
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I was gonna initially just leave this as a reply but I'll probably exceed the word limit, but I like this question! This is a good question :]
Honestly with it being this early on in Batman's career, and with Nightingale being the designated emergency support, I can pretty confidently say that Danny's relationship with the other Rogues ranges from neutral to dislike, and vice versa. Just by virtue of it being really early on in all of their careers and thus Rogues like Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn and stuff, haven't had the character development to otherwise be someone worth, eh, well, liking.
Nightingale's role as 'emergency only' means that he's really not seen that often. Bruce is a pretty master escape artist so for him to get in a situation that requires Danny to feel like he needs to step in is rare.
I haven't gotten Nightingale's persona completely set in stone yet, I'm still bouncing around with ideas, but the current gist I've got for him is that he's honestly pretty quiet. He's not there to engage in a fight or banter, he physically can't; he's there to aid the Batman and that usually means subterfuge, sabotage, psychological tricks, to just straight up shooting people with tranq darts depending on his mood that day.
The Nightingale posts I have here are hyperbolic and a bit exaggerated for my own amusement and entertainment, albeit still reflective of what I'm thinking of for the fic. The post this comment came from is a special case in that it was a joke idea I came up with and felt like sharing. It might show up in fic, just in a different format.
With that being said, from the POV of the Rogues, it means that the Batman has this protective little shadow that will pop up at random and either enact psychological warfare on them (distract them long enough for Batman to free himself), break their stuff (make it easier for Batman to free himself), or straight up shoot them with a tranquilizer, and you never really know which it will be until it's happening. Sometimes its all three.
Sometimes its neither of them; sometimes its him freeing Batman without ever making his presence known. One moment the Bat was trapped, the next he's not.
I don't think they even learn what his name is for a while either. He's probably just called smth like 'the Shadow' until people find out his name is Nightingale.
Safe to say though, the Rogues don't like Batman's little shadow that much, and even if he doesn't show up, he invokes this unwilling paranoia in a lot of them whenever they have him trapped. Besides, he's associated with Batman, the guy who keeps trying to stop them, that makes Nightingale a hated figure on principle.
As for Danny's opinion on the Rogues, I don't think there's any of them that he necessarily likes. Sympathizes with, sure, but not like. Folks like Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy and Babydoll fall under his 'cool motive, still murder' banner, where yeah he gets where they're coming from, but that doesn't excuse the harm they're doing. While folks like Black Mask, the Penguin, or Joker, fall under his 'what an asshole' banner, where he doesn't like them just for the obvious reasons of they're hurting people for power.
He probably likes Catwoman honestly, but her main profession is also thief not murderer so she has that going for her.
I don't think he'd have any special opinions on the other ghost characters. They're ghosts; water is wet, fork found in kitchen.
But yeah, as of the timeline right now Danny's opinion on the Rogues and vice versa are what you'd expect. He's not in the field often enough to form a relationship with any of them beyond the normal one, and considering his schtick is "you made Batman need my help" he's not particularly inclined on changing it. Child ghosts can be so protective yk, especially clingy little traumatized ones with separation anxiety.
#danny fenton is not the ghost king#dpxdc#dpxdc crossover#dp x dc#dpdc#dp x dc crossover#dpxdc au#blood blossom au#i did look it up and see if catwoman has murdered people before and it looks like she has in some comic runs but the general consensus#of her character is that she's a nonlethal Rogue. which already puts her miles above the others in Danny's book. which is funny bc i dont#even particularly care for catwoman that much. im pretty neutral on her. i dont think danny would *adore* her or anything but he does like#her and i can see him telling Bruce to tell her he said hi later down the road.#i didnt mention it in post bc frankly i didnt have a good spot to but in WTNS Danny isn't even friends with any of *his* rogues.#well no thats a lie. i've entertained the idea of him being friends with youngblood. but thats about it honestly. its hard to like the same#people who keep attacking you and your city for their own selfish reasons. There's mutual respect for sure just by virtue of time but#they're not friends. Danny's fights in WTNS were vicious and painful because the people coming through the portal weren't *good* people.#they're not people he wants to associate with and i can't see him getting along w/ them anyways just coz their morals are so different#i didnt mention harley bc i think that's a bit of a slippery slope and it falls under the 'later down the road' line where i think danny#might get along with her later on after she goes through her breakup with the Joker and has that anti hero arc. bc yeah she was manipulated#she still murdered people. people are dead because of her. he's more focused on her actions than her mindset because that's what important#in the end. same thing for poison ivy and everyone else. at the end of the day its their actions that speak louder than words.#and he's learned to watch the way people move their hands than the way they move their mouths.
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I love the idea that, whenever a Cybertronian space-faring vessel lands or docks within a predominantly non-Cybertronian space station or port, that it's required that they either confirm or deny whether their vessel is sentient or not before being permitted to land.
1. For proper accommodation and clarification, along with the chance for communication between the vessel and crews working the station/port.
2. Because there has been... incidents... incidents that have led to the requirement of the above reasons.
#an irate dreadnought with a brain and very big feelings could wreak all sorts of havoc on an unprepared station unfortunately#also. itd be a bit shocking to be just some guy working the fuel station. idly complimenting a shiny cruiser only for it to say 'thanks <3'#transformers#maccadam#tf idw#tf worldbuilding#???#i mean. yeah. its technically world building. we dont see much of that kinda stuff#but im sure as hell thinking about it rn#i love wacky sci fi worldbuilding. theres not enough of it on a broader galactic scale in tf sometimes#like. they mention other aliens and hubs in a few continuities i think. but then they only do so much with it#outside of crossovers ig#idk. i just like thinking of how beings other than humans perceive cybertronians and the colonists#like. they're new to humans. usually. but theyve had other alien neighbors for millions of years#transformers surely are quite talked about on a broader galactic scale. and obv taken into consideration either for good or bad#they're nigh immortal. they're constantly fighting each other and dying. they're peacekeepers. they're warlords. they're big. they're small#they're fucking weird. and somehow end up all over the place#they hate your kind. they love your kind. they think you're disgusting. they're offering to be your car#how many citizens of their galaxy nervously attempt to politely ask a vehicle if its alive or not on a daily bases in popular hubs/stations#its so funny to me#also. thinking about fic stuff relating to idw1. and like. all the background aliens and their factions fascinate me a bit. its fun inspo#mtmte#lost light#nearly forgot those. since other aliens and factions are featured in them a bit#slowly getting through robots in disguise rn. and all the nail stuff got me thinking about neutrals finding homes amongst other aliens#also like. some of the darker stuff thats mentioned about cybertronians being sold or indentured. like. hows that viewed broadly?
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browsing stormlight art on tumblr and ran into a post about how different dalinars life would have been with a somewhat healthier childhood and i think someone tagged it 'kaladin adopts young dalinar au' or something
anyways i propose a Make Everybody Worse au. teenage dalinar and gavilar get dropped directly into formenos and unofficially adopted by feanor a few years before the flight of the noldor. they both participate in the First Kinslaying/Oath/Losgar and then feanor dies. maedhros adopts them and then thangorodrim happens. maglor adopts them for a few years until mae gets rescued. they participate in the first few decades of the wars of beleriand, after which they get dropped back into the middle of alethkar.
on the noldorin side of things, m&m assume the random children they sort-of adopted (300some years before Secondborn were awakened) got killed somewhere in the battle. the kidnap fam situation now has the additional context of m&m having known even more pairs of children who died because of the Oath - one pair killed in the Second Kinslaying, one pair who presumably died in battle because they swore the Oath
on the alethi side of things, dalinar & gavilar are now Oathbound kinslayers who just lost five-to-ten parental figures and all their friends, and spent most of their lives being actively encouraged in war and military strategy. they also skipped the entirety of the navani-related conflict and are probably somewhat closer because of that. violence ensues.
#stormlight archive#silm adjacent#crossover#dalinar kholin#gavilar kholin#feanorians#silm crack i guess#why would feanor adopt them? not sure#though if two vengeful children with swords speaking an entirely foreign language fell through his ceiling he would want to Study Them#and given that they have no apparent way to get back to roshar and no other guardians i dont think nerdanel would object to it#shed probably be interested in figuring out alethi language at least#give them five years and the kholins have brand new red crested helms and noldorin steel swords#and feanor has a freshly revived linguistics special interest and a brand new treatise on alethi glyph writing#actually yeah he would absolutely be fascinated by Alien Writing System#(meanwhile im sure the kholins would be vorin-ly scandalized by Man Who Invented Written Language lol)#inspired by me reading all the bondsmith parts of oathbringer and reflexively going 'no oaths!!!'#like theres a little elrond in the back of my head lol#but yeah. worst of both worlds. congrats kholins have fun#even elrond gets bonus oath trauma despite being born several centuries later#from what ive seen teenage kholins were definitely bloodthirsty enough and common-sense-lacking enough to swear the Oath#so theres an opportunity to work more Oath Feelings into it for celebrimbor as well#since they would be around his age years-wise i think? just human age instead of elf age but close enough to probably know them#lol imagine curufin going 'hey tyelpe your grandfather wants to take in these weird kids he found. theyre Aftercomers who speak#an alien language and write completely differently and they fell through the ceiling. do you want to go chat with them or something'#tyelpe having Weird Aftercomer Not-Cousins around his age who 'died' for the Oath...
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realized i havent posted abt basically any of my crossovers ive worked on .... i think thats honestly impressive considering i often dont shut up about them.... but then again things ive gotten REALLY into i end up sidelining crossovers for the sake of analysis n discussion..... beautiful
#but yeah ive gotttt a handful#i mean i redesign them as ponies every couple weeks#(and they always turn out the exact same HAHA)#uhhhh some other ones. please imagine me sifting through an old box full of things as i say this#i have a pn2 one. i planned on writing smth for that then gave up#i have one about that house with an owl in it#(you can see me desperately trying not to throq this talking post into like 500 virtually unrelated tags)#(ftr thats also why i am frequently calling this the circus show and stuff)#does oc stuff count? i DID design pomni as an eschimatex once. and i actually did post that one#designed them as bugs multiple times for fun but also a few times w the intention of it being#related to one of those games about the bugs. i had the fables one in mind...#once tried to make them furries for the sole purpose of crossing it over w a vn i like...#and theres probably more that i forgot. i sifted thu my sketchbook (i HAVE filled an entire sketchbook w circus art by now)#(which is only notable if you know i have been doing primarily digital art and have only been caught up#on this show for like 3 months)#anyway i cant remember any more#its not a crossover but i did have streamer kinger and i like that. i should draw that again it was silly and fun#oh my god how could i forget.... i have tried to make object deaigns in the past#but i didnt like them....#also i have a vague crossover w one but its foundation is quite shaky and i dont have art for it#bc it requires human designs for the circus members that i Dont Have
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Aging down the riders in my HTTYD crossover means that their interactions with Viggo are now drastically different. Because now he’s facing off against kids. They’re still a pain in his butt, but they’re kids. And I like to think he has some grounds against badly hurting kids. So while outlining the story I’ve had to rework some of his plans and motivations.
Nothing too crazy, just wanted to share that his character will be a bit different than it is in the show because his opponents are significantly younger than they were in RTTE so it affects how he goes about dealing with them
#like. for instance. the eruptodon#in the show he stole it so he could blow up the edge#but here?…he’s not going to blow up a bunch of KIDS home#and he’s not trying to KILL them (which causes problems with Ryker because Ryker IS trying to kill them)#his relationship with the riders is more like…mildly antagonistic mentorish?#they’re still messing with his business and he wants them to stop#and he does try to capture their dragons#but he’s not trying to ruin their lives per say. and he’s not trying to make them homeless#he’s like ‘okay if you’re going to be annoying I’m gonna make you LEARN something from it’#I wanna find a way to put in a scene where he goes jack sparrow on Ant with a sword#you know jack’s first scene with will? where he’s turning it into a sword fighting lesson?#yeah I’m kinda going that route with Viggo. they’re still fighting but he’s shouting tips and maces and talons lessons while they fight#he recognizes the potential talent for battle strategy and fighting they have as a group and individuals#so he’s trying to make them better fighters and strategists since they keep insisting on destroying his operations#(especially since he knows something they don’t. he’s trying to prepare them)#evil foreshadowing I won’t elaborate on for anyone who bothered to go through these tags#httyd#httyd/the deep crossover#viggo grimborn
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👁️ W I T N E S S 👁️
- I've been meaning to do something with Onmyoji, the awesome @bamboorocket's Lancer AU!Waka, for a while now, but since it's Bamboo's birthday I went ahead and did a thing inspired by the current campaign she's playing him in as a birthday present!
So without further ado, Happy Birthday to the awesome @bamboorocket! Thank you so much for being one of the coolest, most awesome friends I could ever ask for 🎂🌙✨
#happy birthday bamboo!#hope you like this dark horror flavoured pic of your boi going through it#pray for him he's going through it hehe#look we both show our undying love and appreciation for this man by putting him in a blender#so it figures that I would do something like this for your birthday hehe#and yeah in the current campaign bamboo is playing him he is going through it#ugh I probably should have dialed the effects back you can't see shizz#but at least I managed to get the glowy blue moon tribe lines on his suit#and his shiny eyes too#bamboo headcanons waka to have dark brown eyes with gold eyeshine so I included that since onmyoji is based on bamboo's headcanons#also realised i forgot his reflective hair :/ *clown moment*#also the big glowing eye thing in the background was hard as well#basically the lancer campaign module that bamboo is playing has this thing called witness#it's a kind of weird telepathy thing that functions a lot like the echo in ffxiv#and because of what it's called I went for an eye motif#and now for the tags (how the frick do I even tag this)#okami#okami(?)#okami waka#waka#okami fanart#my artwork#lancer rpg#lancer ttrpg#lancer#lancer au#crossover fanart
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Man, why are there so many crossover episodes in season 2…..
#My liveblog#amuel watches l&s the series#I’m looking through the list of episodes and I’m pretty sure there are four of them?#Should I even watch crossover episodes with the Proud Family and Recess#I have never even heard about them 😭#But is there any reason for crossover episodes?#were they running out of ideas or was it a trend?#Ajndkfkmfm yeah I know I’m too unenthusiastic but this is because I don’t like crossovers#especially between COMPLETELY unrelated media#But of course the question whether I should watch these episodes is rhetorical#I will watch them
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In my efforts to daydream a plausible Mario movie 2 plot out of my favorite Mario game(s), I accidentally discovered Rosalina and count bleck would be KILLER narrative foils
#tbh I just wanted spm but galaxy feels required due to its popularity and that universe line in the movie#I mean I love galaxy too but spm is on a whole nother level for me#ahem anyways#I’m probably almost 20 years late on this realization#especially since these games came out very close together so I’m sure there were tons of comparisons back in the day#but damn they really do be two people facing the same circumstances in radically different ways#Rosalina: my loved one died so I will live on carrying her memory and lessons with me as I care for others the way she cared for me#bleck: my loved one died so I’m making pipe bombs. yes I do have others I can care for and who care about me but idgaf I’m going to kill mys#i think finding some way for them to interact in the middle of spms plot would be a banger move Nintendo#er I mean in a crossover fanservicey sort of way. spm already had a fantastic plot#although… bleck only realized the error of his ways because timpani was alive…#if timpani had actually died… wouldn’t he have gone through with it?#if in this hypothetical Mario movie 2 timpani isn’t reincarnated as a pixl… we’d need someone that understands loss like him#someone that could empathize with him and show him he can channel the pain into loving again instead of destroying everything#to show him that even though she’s irreplaceable he can still heal by opening up to oh I don’t know… his minions#hold on I’m cooking#yeah this could be a fun daydream for a few hours before I forget about it#rambling#Mario#super Mario#Mario movie 2#kinda#super mario galaxy#super paper mario#count bleck#Rosalina
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Danny Phantom Crossover
Where Amity has been near abandoned for years, untouched and unaged if not for the destruction from long ago, when (GIW, Ecto-Contamination, the Portal, Whatever or Whoever) demolished it.
Of course nowadays it's long forgotten, a city laid to ruin, slipping from the minds of those that left. Until someone finds it again, and finds a place of forgotten dreams, the living dead, and a towering figure cloaked in red with a large needle-esque weapon to their neck.
"Leave now, while you still can, stranger. You won't find anything here. All that lies in this place are ghosts and broken towers."
#hollow knight crossover#danny phantom au#prompts#honestly this could be any sort of crossover but i am thinking#dcxdp#Jazz akin to Hornet just with more self-care ideas towards her siblings#Dan is like the Pure Vessel (sealed away but should someone open the portal he shall be awoken) (the final line of defense)#Danny is like Ghost- all exploratory and fighty and honestly give him a void-space wail for fun#Ellie is like a lil Grimmchild exploring with Danny and causing mischief#Sam is probably similar to Unn in the sense of causing an area to become overgrown and creating plant creachurs#Tucker akin to Lurien the Watcher but with hive-esque drones keeping an eye on the city#amity park is weird#and liminal#gives off dead fae vibes#Are the rest of the ghosts there? Probably yeah#There's several husks and ecto-contaminated *things* from the GIW also wandering around#Maybe there's chunks of the Ghost Zone leaking through with floating platforms and islands and such#Maybe the fact the city was once pulled into the Zone already had an effect on it over time#Those who were liminal can't leave- they'll always find their way back as though the city- the portal- calls to them#Those that stay away for too long are driven mad and come back as gibbering husks of themselves#I like to think the liminals wear skulls or masks so they can tell who each other is at a distance and if its safe#Give Jazz a big metal needle to go with her bat#how many tags until tumblr eats them
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i have reached the point of:
do i want to write endless eight with a lot of minor variations or different scenes?
or do i just want to leave it as is and use strike-through in chapters to show places that are different in other timelines?
or do i want to do that choose your own adventure thing like in--
you know what, actually having a choose your own adventure option in each of the chapters sounds like fun. and then depending on which ending you pick in one chapter, it leads you to a different final chapter.
but the final final chapter only goes up for that last update of june, maybe.
i don't know how to do this on tumblr is the problem.
because ao3 has that CYOA option so that depending on which option you click, you can get a different scene, while the main bulk of the chapters would be the same (probably) as with the endless eight anime arc.
but i don't think there's a way to do that click and open something while leaving the rest unopen option on tumblr.
i got around it in junko in ddlc by having a link to a private post with the poem on it, but that's not the same.
idk. i've got a little less than a month to play around with this here on ye olde tumblr to see if i can get it to function properly. and i may just do it like the junko in ddlc thing - with multiple private post options that the different links lead to depending on which one you click.
i'll look around and see if someone else has options for this. if they don't, i'll just. i'll figure something out. we'll have fun!
#musings#bandit writes fic#dr haruhi crossover#junko in ddlc#i already have the bulk of the main through thread done#and then the first ending which will lead you back to chapter one#and then i want to write the true ending#and then go back through and write the alternate scenes#and leave notes for where those alternate scenes go in the main text#(there's a part of me that was like 'every draft should be its own endless eight day' but like#i'm not sure that's fair to y'all and also that's not as fun#like it's cool to see how things change through drafts#but that should be its own separate thing i think you know?)#i think i'm gonna end up doing the links thing on here#i'm not sure if that or the ao3 with the options will be the better experience#i think the links will feel more like a CYOA#because in ao3 if i did it that way it would be different chapters and that's not the same#hmmmmmmm#WELL I HOPE Y'ALL WILL HAVE FUN WITH THIS WHEN IT GOES UP#i was just talking about a cyoa with - OH YEAH RIGHT THAT HM
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Something that probably could be an Invader Zim episode:
The children at the Skool perform a play called "The Tattered King" in the auditorium. Apparently, Zim, unaware of what type of creature this play summons, tricked the theater teacher to organize this play and assign the children different roles all with the intent of taking over Earth. And of course, Dib is the only one who has caught on to this and is trying to stop the play from getting to the climax/ending scene.
I can see this going one of two ways:
-Dib actually interferes with the play and fights with Zim, thus preventing the climax from happening.
-The play actually reaches the ending scene/climax and...yeah let's just say there's tentacles everywhere and everyone fukcingf dies (or goes mad).
Ngl, the thought of Zim playing the role of the King and Gaz playing the role of Cassilda sounds awesome, though.
#invader zim#stupid ideas#the king in yellow#yeah#didn't think this through did you zim#what is this a crossover episode#like#you summoned an eldritch horror#the theater kid of eldritch horrors no less#what did you think would happen
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Haven’t had like the time to draw anything rlly (or rather the drive) but getting more into starmania + gravity falls rn and hopefully someday I’ll make more fan art
#resj still in my heart but in order to like keep the fixation going I need to space it out a litttttle bit#besides I’ve still got a padlás + valahol európában to get through. amongst other things#BUT I READ JOURNAL 3. WORKING ON BOOK OF BILL#yeah. I am very invested in gf rn#billford is right up my alley#Elisabeth x gf Crossover would go crazy#also my first day working with the school is tomorrow WISH ME LUCK IM SO NERVOUS FO MEET MY COOPERATING TEACHER RAHHHHHH#not looking forward to waking up so early for the next like 16 weeks
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Person Who Has Only Watched Mission: Impossible Watching Detective Conan: Getting a Lot of Mission: Impossible Vibes from this
#I can and Will Extrapolate in greater detail once i've like caught up with the major arcs#Currently we're going through the series out of order based on: Character we want to see or Roch is like: We Should watch this one next#it's great i've been having a blast#But anyway the point is: Kir proceeds Ilsa by a number of years#but god they're so similar in being forced undercover into Shady Crime Syndicate that all dress in black#and I have thoughts about it#Gosho Aoyama being like: Yeah Ethan Hunt I'll Take that name#and that's her whole ass Dad#and i just UH#First of all I really do think a Mission/Detco Crossover would work EXCEEDINGLY well#would anyone write it probably not#I should though#i don't really think anyone would care though but that shouldn't stop me#Also Shinichi/Conan and Ethan are similar protagonist archetypes: Forced into Circumstances that causes danger for everyone they care about#but also they gain allies by being themselves
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Was rewatching the Voyager episode “Night” and it definitely got me feeling some type of way about the timeline of Donnie’s arrival on Voyager :)
#set a course for home#rottmnt#rottmnt au#rottmnt crossover#rottmnt fanfiction#rottmnt donnie#star trek voyager#star trek fic#star trek crossover#cuz if he arrives just after the episode ‘One’. which is literally two episodes before night…#then oh boy yeah is he gonna be feeling some feelings about The Void#like. no matter what Donnie at the earliest has to show up by season 4#but season 4 also has like… the most fuckery going on in it#so really it’s a matter of what I’m willing to put him through#but ‘Night’ is definitely gonna be a Time for him#katnip talks
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Minnesota Fats possibly has an Extended Ryu Number of 4, though there is some room for argument. If only the real Rudolf Wanderone is considered, then the best connection would require counting a televised pool competition. However, when considering the novel/movie character we get a much stronger link through the same exact person as the pool competition: Willie Mosconi.
Willie Mosconi cameos in the film adaptation of The Hustler as himself (he is credited and referred to as Willie in the movie).
Willie Mosconi appears alongside Liberace in What's My Line S14 Episode 1 and Liberace appears in Family Guy: The Quest for Stuff with Peter Griffin, who gives a Fortnite connection. So the chain would be:
Minnesota Fats (The Hustler / ABC's The Wide World of Sports)-> Willie Mosconi ->(What's My Line)-> Liberace ->(Family Guy: The Quest for Stuff)-> Peter Griffin ->(Fortnite)-> Ryu .
If we are only considering the real man and the Wide World of Sports connection is invalid then the next best connection would likely be through the Johnny Carson show, but I have not delved into what the exact number would be there.
Minnesota Fats from Minnesota Fats: Pool Legend for the Sega Genesis
Rudolf Wanderone a.k.a. Minnesota Fats does not have a Ryu Number.
#sorry if the formatting is weird i am doing this on my phone after discovering the Liberace connection and going mad#you can find a clip of it on YouTube and Liberace is the second panelist#there was a brief moment where i thought imdb was lying to me#and yeah the Liberace apperance in the family guy app is him they licensed his likeness and voice from his estate#as far as i can tell it was not a limited event but i did not dive too deep into it#if that connection is a problem next best one i know would be through the muppets adding 1 or 2 to get to a spiderman crossover#i did not dive too deep into sam the robot to figure out whether it would be 1 or 2 added#Wikipedia did consider the video game character to be the fictional Minnesota fats but its definitely meant to be the real guy#though there are some arguments to be made about whether the fictional character and real guy are the same#since originally Minesotta Fats was New York Fats and changed it to Minesotta after the Hustler was published#and the authors notes supposedly referred to the character as New York Fats and it was changed at some point down the line#so it is likely the character was at least based on Rudolph Wanderone#i still cant believe Willie's in that episode with Liberace. if the connection wasnt that direct i wouldn't be making this i think
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