#We're actually dumb stupid cringe fails most of the time

[kakusu-shipping]

Upon playing Balan Wonderworld Koro-Sensei said if I added Balan to the F/O list I'd have two F/Os that look like him, to which I replied "What are you talking about?"

We've been arguing about it for 3 days straight now.

[nani-nyor]

We're tired

Alright so...this whole back and forth with chnlx shippers over the sun moon dynamic is starting to get old. I thought this was all a bit of a joke at first but seems like yall legit think yall own this ship dynamic and this shit is getting to be absurdly cringe

The OP was asking why their moots hated HF and I can only assume they probably have a lot of F moots, meaning F akgaes, meaning hatred of anything H, especially HF. And there's a not so secret link between chnlxrs and flx akgaes (not all but a lot) so Im not surprised if they had a lot of chnlx moots that they were HF antis. But the comments were actually all rly sweet and supportive of HF which is a breath of fresh air in 2025 tbh, it was nice to see!

Until we got to the person above 🤦🏻‍♀️

Let's break this thing down. For starters, this person definitely broke down inside saying HF have their "soulmatism". If there's any group of shippers openly hurt over HF even being deemed close friends, its these shippers. So we know they absolutely "do not love that for them"

Now the next part. So you're malding over a ship dynamic. It annoys you "soooooo much," (please find real problems) And you think Chnlx are "the actual sun moon pairing."

PSA for all Chnlxrs, yall:

Do not own sun/moon dynamic

Did not invent sun/moon dynamic

Are deadass shipping two suns together yet are THIS LOUD abt being "the actual sun moon pairing"

I mean ffs, can we call a spade a spade here? I dont give a single shit if Chnlxrs wanna call their double sun ship "sun/moon" but it's just hysterical every time I see a Chnlxr say "the real sun/moon" in reference to Chnlx bc I was today years old when I saw so many people insist that chn is a moon-coded person when no one outside of their ship bubble calls him that. Even other Chn shippers dont call him moon. It's very strange seeing these people fight for their lives for a dynamic that isn't even relevant for their ship. It would be like Jlxrs doing the same thing. This is the REAL reason why this whole thing is so dumb bc the ship less defined by the dynamic are the ones who insist that ONLY their ship can be called that.

For those unaware, for the past couple of months, chnlxrs have been very loudly opposed to HF being called the sun moon ship. This is despite the fact that HF have been called sun moon for literal years at this point and even SKZ themselves describe F as sun (which H has nicknamed Flx since debut) and H as moon. And yet they insist that HFs just straight up arent allowed to use the term like they own it.

Whereas most HFs find this entire thing to be a joke and most of us dont even give chnlxrs calling their ship sun/moon a second thought. Even if we kinda chuckle bc again, two suns, but okay, you do you. But chnlxrs are actually seriously complaining every time they see Hf called sun/moon as if they haven't been sun moon for y e a r s.

I dont know what it is but Chnlxrs have been instigating stupid shit with HFs for several months straight and somehow constantly try to make themselves the victims and HFs the bad guys when they start this shit every single time. Looking for shit to complain about. It was only a couple months ago they were fighting for their right to hate HF with a burning passion (which if a HFer said that abt their ship, the whole fandom would drag HFs through the mud for weeks on end). Now they can't even let us have a ship dynamic.

And somehow it always ends up with the outside fandom claiming "two groups of shippers are fighting again" when every single time, it has been instigated by Chnlxrs, yet somehow, HFs always end up taking the bulk of the blame while Chnlxrs skate off and just blame it on akgaes while none of them even call out these akgaes and pretty much claim them as Chnlxrs. Whereas if they can even attempt to blame all HFs for something, they'll do it without fail.

TL;DR, there is some jealousy or insecurity coming in heavy from Chnlxrs and it's weird for people who insist HF aren't close or don't even like each other to be so intimidated by their ship which shouldn't even be a threat to you.

Some of you need to stop hiding behind ship dynamics and just admit the reality in that you're wildly insecure abt HF's relationship. Just leave HFs alone with our irrelevant, fake ship and go enjoy your real one. we are fucking tired of dealing with the same stupid people every two business days. HF is sun moon coded and you're not going to make us stop calling them that bc of your own insecurity. You're only going to make us be louder about calling them that in the future

Anyway goodnight to H and F, the real sun moon ship

[cryptvokeeper]

I dunno not to make it like a Whole Thing but I am still thinking about the trash to art spectrum and like one of the other things that I hate abt it is that it almost excuses things that are considered too mainstream or too fandomy or too cringe, in a similar way that a piece of media being "just for kids" is used to excuse really awful kids shows or movies. Like just because something isnt being made to be discussed in a college classroom doesnt excuse it from having actual themes and ideas, and actually being good for its audience. It dismisses 'trash' as not being worth thinking about deeper or analyzing, because only 'real art' is worthy of that.

Like shit, you know whats a non-zero contributor to the fact that fandom spaces on here are widely non-critical content with no deeper thought that no one ever wants to acknowledge? The fact that when people used to write long genuine analysis of their blorbos or literary or film techniques used, they would get screenshotted and mocked by people outside the fandom as "lol look at this cringe person overanalyzing their dumb fandom shit. *insert memes abt its not that deep, the curtains are blue, etc.*"

the current situation we're in of fandom spaces lacking critical thinking is a direct result of the 2016-2019 pushback against the 2012-2015 culture of enthusiastically embracing fandom media as something with its own value, and a rejection of elitism that only certain pieces of media are good enough to dedicate analysis and criticism to, that eventually was labelled as cringe. It feels like people have forgotten that shit like saying "Dantes inferno is bible fan fiction" or "the odyssey is greek myth fanfiction" didnt come from some attempt to bring down classical literature or commodify it by using fandom terms. The message at the time was "your work has just as much inherent value (and by extension, inherent meaning) as these classical works, dont let other people tell you otherwise."

like dont get me wrong, a piece of media can genuinely be just good stupid fun with no deeper meaning to it, but I think even the most apolitical meaningless blank slate of a movie still says something, even in the negative space. and ive seen way too many shitty creators try to use the excuse of "its just a video game! Its just a movie! Its just a TV show! There's no need to think that hard about it!" to cover up their own failings as creators.

[justrandomselfships]

Little steps- my self insert Fic (S/I POV) with a bunch of silly illustrations! Oh did I mention that this involves Kaeya? Well he's the main focus here even though Lisa is mentioned shit ton of times! Might write something for her focus too someday.

I finished it ages ago but I was afraid to post it- I'm not anymore and also✨ it's my birthday ✨

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Ever since I joined the knights I decided to write in a diary, it helped me keep track of time. Lisa told me that it can help me in various ways, like for example remembering names of the other knights, or checking my personal progress. Now that I think about it, it was long since I checked my old entries. Nothing interesting happened today anyway so I might as well read some. I don't really remember anything that was going on when I started so I suppose I could refresh my memory.

Today Lisa wanted to introduce me to someone- she probably wanted to help me by looking for training partner for me, however I had to refuse. You probably remember why was that, I got scared of meeting someone new again. I couldn't get that mess on her shoulders when she has so much to do as it is! And there was no way I'd meet them alone it'd be too akward for both of us!

I remember the exact moment I tried to come up with an excuse for future me... It kinda made me giggle how stupid I am sometimes, but let's look at something else...

I've never felt as lonely as I do now, I don’t even know why. I don’t miss anyone nor I ever craved any interactions... But to make that feeling go away I thought about talking to Amber but when I left the house she was talking to Noelle and I got scared to approach them... Instead I decided to sketch something and stay inside for the rest of the day.

I immediately looked at my sketchbook, I don't even have to look inside, I was drawing what's outside my window like always. Maybe I'll find some better memory if I keep looking?

During my patrol I got a bit lost... It was scary... But I wasn't alone, an Adventurer found me... However he got lost too. It was a bit unlucky day since I picked the wrong maps, we also got attacked a few times by monsters. I kinda feel bad for him since he tried his best to cheer me up but I stayed silent. It should've been other way around a knight shouldn't le

Bennett! How could I forget his name when I was writing this? He was such a sweetheart I obviously had to mess it up and make him feel uncomfortable... But I did make up for it! Maybe I'll finally read something positive? I somehow can't remember how exactly that went... Or if I was daydreaming about apologizing?

I decided to bake something for Bennett as thank you and apology for acting so cold towards him. But I had no idea on how to find him... Or what to say... So after thinking for few minutes I decided to talk to Katherine and ask her to give it to him. After "talking" to her I locked myself in my room out of embarrassment, I messed up again. I just said "Bennett" placed my pastries and left. Now I probably won't be able to face her for at LEAST two months.

I cringe at the memory... Gosh now this will keep me up at night for sure... I finally forgot about it and now it'll haunt me.

Wait a second... Did I really not made any progress at all!? I was trying so hard to socialize with others and get out more but I seem to still not be able to do it right. No, it's impossible. I'm good friends with Lisa! So I definitely made any progress... Or is she just so easy to talk to? Time to take a final look at something recent for a change...

Capitan Kaeya Alberich wanted to talk to me outside work... It might not sound like a big deal but somehow I just froze... I wasn't able to respond properly and he probably guessed what I was going to say, not that he ever can't do that... I might be too predictable. Either way I feel bad, my behavior was really disrespectful and I knew better than that to just ignore someone like him. I still have much to learn and I'll need to properly apologize for staying silent.

I only ever failed... There is no mistaking it. Great way to note down progress huh? Too bad there is none.

Think, what do I need to do to finally do better? I am the problem for sure but what do I really need to change? Maybe I should just start observing how others act... After all I never bothered to do that. It might help in one way or another...

Obviously there's only one place where there is a lot of people and I won't look like a total creep if I'll just listen in the conversations and look at random people... It's no other than the tavern. I'm scared to go there alone... But I don't have to!

Lisa would be willing to go right?... Then again I rely on her a bit too much and going out like this could be an opportunity to break the ice with someone else...

Jean is always busy, Amber will be way too distracting and we might end up somewhere else, Eula is too scary, Venti... I don't even know why I'm considering him.

Maybe that offer from capitan Kaeya still stands? It's from bearly 2 weeks ago so maybe if I get lucky and he happens to still be interested, I can actually go...

What am I even thinking!? I didn't even apologize for the last time... But being around so many drunk people is terrifying... However I can't bet on the fact that he won't drink too much... On the other hand he seems to handle people and I'll definitely learn something.

Screw it. It might be scary but I need to do it. Tomorrow I'll ask him! That's for sure! He's the most respectable and trustworthy person who isn't always busy and will not distract me.

~⏳

I'm scared to do it but I have to! I need to... Did I really say that I'm gonna do it today? Or should I just pretend that I never thought of it. He's probably busy today. Yup definitely that no need to feel stressed.

I haven't seen him back at the headquarters nor did I see him around town when I was coming back from my patrol- that's a good sign. It's still pretty early but I don't think that I'll see him today... What a relief!

Before I left the headquarters after finishing some paperwork I hear a voice that belongs to a beautiful librarian I am lucky to be able to call a friend.

"Hey there cutie, are you okay?"

"Just a little bit nervous that's all, nothing new haha"

"Do you need me to pass a message again?"

"No need! It's something I need to say myself..."

"I see..."

"But if you happen to see capitan Kaeya it would be nice if you could tell him that I was looking for him" out of habit I grab my hair and begin to play with it. Lisa's warm soothing voice blessed my ears as she said "No worries darling, I'll let him know" before she left and giggled to herself...

Wait... Oh no.

Why did I say anything!? Is she that magical that I can't say anything but what's on my mind.

If she happens to meet him my request will be unavoidable! Even if I tried thinking of something else Kaeya will know that I'm lying. I can't avoid him either... Can't waste his precious time...

How do I even ask him!? Do I need to change from my work clothes before I go? What should I do...

I didn't realize that I started walking in circles before someone approached me.

"Heather?"

I turn around and see the man I was thinking about all day. Dammit... I have to say it. I can't think of an excuse and staying silent is now unacceptable.

"Oh-uhm... Greetings Capitan Kaeya"

"Lisa informed me that you were looking for me"

"Oh right!... That... Haha..."

"I don't want to rush you, however I do have some business to attend to"

"I'm so sorry! I mean- since you're busy then my silly request is irrelevant"

"Come now, I believe that I should be the judge of that" his smug look made it ever so slightly more challenging to say anything.

"I just... Ugh..." I took a deep breath "Look as you know I was trying to loosen up recently and well I realized that I wasn't making any progress at all. So I remembered that one time you asked me to go to the tavern with you and I refused... I mean ignored you, which I am VERY sorry about but now I think that it was a mistake and today I wanted to ask you to accompany me but since you're busy let's just forget about everything" I felt relieved getting that off my chest.

"I don't think that will do, in fact I was heading towards the tavern so if you really want to I suppose you can join me" Oh right... I forgot about him gathering some information there from time to time. So it might work after all! He won't pay too much attention to me and I could investigate without tons of distractions.

"Let's get going then capitan" I say before he smiles softly in response "Wait do you want to get going now or-"

"Yes" he cut me off, which was fair and I'm glad he did it before I said something dumb.

We're almost there. Before we get closer I suddenly stop.

"That reminds me!" I realized I spoke out loud, as he looked at my direction my confidence dropped dead "I've never actually tried any alcohol so would you be so kind to recommend something for me? I figured that since I'm already getting out of my comfort zone might as well try something new" I said under my breath but he definitely understood what I meant judging by his facial expression and well... response.

"Absolutely" my heart skipped a beat. I desperately tried to start a conversation topic... But choosing alcohol might be something I'll regret...

Kaeya started listing few drinks I could enjoy his words were poetic as he described the beverages, however the names of the drinks went over my head. It wasn't that bad but I just felt stupid over how clueless I was. He definitely knew what he was talking about and I'm more than interested in hearing more. The more he talks the less likely I am to say something I'll regret.

"Obviously since I don't know how much you can handle I won't be forcing you to try too much too soon" he paused "Your father probably wouldn't be happy either if you returned drunk" he said teasingly. It invited me to respond less seriously.

"Oh no! This means that we'll have to do it again, how awful"

"We didn't enter yet so you can feel free to leave now before you regret spending time with me of all people" his voice was now suddenly much more hostile... Did I mess it up!?

He laughed softly "I'm sorry did I go too far? While I don't want to force you to do anything, I won't lie... I'm a bit curious to learn something new about you tonight"

We were still outside standing right in front of the entrance to the tavern if not for chatting we could hear from the inside there would be total silence.

"I'm sorry for being quiet again! It's just that you caught me off guard haha" I look away "There isn't much to know about me so I feel like I'll only disappoint you"

"I'm not so sure about that part"

"Wait... Did my father tell you anything about me!?"

"Look let's just get inside, We'll discuss it later"

Nervously I followed him yet again. The atmosphere was warm and I could see different kinds of people all over the place. We sit down.

"So did he tell you anything?" I ask immediately.

"Relax, he didn't" he seemed amused by my desperation to know. It's understandable... And I'm probably overreacting anyway. I collect my thoughts "I'm sorry"

"What are you sorry for?"

"I'm just making this into some big deal for no reason. Maybe the reason is the huge amount of respect I have for you that makes me freak out"

"I see, well I don't see the reason to be so formal now. We aren't working after all" his soft smile was enough for me to calm down.

"Thank you" Maybe it was all I needed to hear, after that everything went smoothly.

I start feeling proud of myself... Maybe I can change after all? Either way it only shows that I have to write it down! And once I was back home I did just that.

Today I had enough courage to take a step in right direction! I went to a tavern with capitan Kaeya. It was fun and for the first time in years I wasn't that scared. It wasn't totally perfect but it was definitely worth it.