#Won't Take No For An Answer

[superreader30]

Listening to Disturbed: True Horror Stories. The episode featured stalker stories. One story is called, "Beauty Queen Stalker." A former beauty queen named Elena Semikina was stalking her ex-boyfriend and his current girlfriend named, Drew and Jennifer Taylor.

[vaguely-concerned]

the strength it must have taken for illario to not immediately go full 'lmao since when have you even had a kiss hello lucanis' sibling violence mode during the café talk. inspirational. rook and lucanis really were doing all that right in front of his salad huh

[demaparbat-hp]

Them sleeping together (not sexually)! Thank you so much for feeding me with those gorgeous arts. Love you so so so much❤️

It's a long way to Ba Sing Se.

[puppetmaster13u]

Prompt 81

Danny blinked at the small children Ellie was holding the hand of, looking quite proud of herself. The small children- between ten and twelve so somewhere similar to Ellie’s age- who both practically stank of magic and Gods. 

He took a deep breath, pinching the bridge of his nose even as Dan cackled while opening the door more to let them inside. “Alright, what’s your name, kids?”

“B-billy…um, Billy Batson...” “‘m Percy! Percy Jackson.” 

“Nice to meet you two- any idea where in your family you have a god or two, because one of you definitely smells like Zeus and I’m pretty sure Poseidon and I am not dealing with either of my half-brothers.” 

[mamawasatesttube]

It always gets me excited when anyone mentions Tim’s neck scar from the warehouse explosion!! In the comic panel it looks severe but I never see anyone talk about it. Do you have any thoughts or headcanons about it?

YESSS tim neck scar enjoyers rise up!!!

as for thoughts and headcanons, i have some some vague ones yes! i think in general it's some severe scarring that took several months of skin graft operations and such to help heal. it's part of why the rr cowl is integral to him, imo - keeping the back of his head and neck covered and protected becomes a priority while it's still delicate and healing. and also he just generally wants to minimize exposed skin after that explosion. it prob leaves him with some hypertrophic scarring that's eventually covered by hair again, but more visible on his neck (part of why i also hc that he tends to wear high-collared shirts and turtlenecks + grows out his hair afterwards).

also alongside this, for the gays among us: i generally hc kon going to emt classes (like, as kon-el/superboy/supernova) because after last stand of new krypton, he's like man i could use ttk in medical contexts to save people all the time if only i knew how. so he shows up to a class like hi i have telekinesis please teach me what to do with it. and alongside that once he figures out that tim's got some significant scarring that sometimes locks up and gives him mobility issues or pain, kon also slides into an occupational therapist's office like heyyyy could you mayhaps give me some pointers on how i could use my fabulous Tactile Telekinesis to help out my best bro I MEAN a hypothetical guy who has this sort of scar-related muscle tension. tim finds this vaguely mortifying at first but melts So fast because it turns out that kon's ttk neck massages are godly.

[darkdragon768]

Various doodles of the Dorito Twins.

I just like to play with them like dolls and put them into situations.

[pseudophan]

the fuckass google ai overview feature only came to norway a couple of weeks ago and i already hate it so bad, however i do have to admit that including 'ship name' as a Key Fact is funny as shit

[heyimkana]

I was wondering how Sung Jinwoo met his S/O in pillow talk AU?

Thank you for feeding the delulu readers, Kana ❤️❤️

OOOOOOH OKAY OKAY so i was gonna say that she was one of the people he saved during a dungeon break or something and then he saw her and he fell for her BUT i changed my mind

i think i wanna make their meeting more normal, something cute, just like two strangers meeting at a coffeeshop or something. actually, make it a bakery because she likes to bake and jinwoo also has a sweet tooth. okay maybe she was a pastry chef when they first met and she worked in this nice little bakery that jinah often visits with her friends. OKAY A SILLY SCENE

one day, jinah took jinwoo there with her and their eyes met by accident and S/O was like omgomgomgomg that's S-Rank Hunter Sung Jinwoo!!!!! (i like to think that she was his fangirl back then so she fell first but he fell harder LOL) but she was so nervous to say hi to him so she just ran back to the kitchen and jinwoo spotted her sprinting and he was like "????" but he didn't say anything (he thought she was real cute tho but ofc on the outside he was just like 😶)

so then jinah ordered some cakes to go and she was like "oppa, what do you want?"

"uhh anything."

"pick one 🔫"

"damn alright get me a slice of chocolate cake then"

S/O, hearing this from the kitchen, was like "GIVE ME TEN MINUTES I'LL MAKE THE BEST CHOCOLATE CAKE EVER" and then she made it SUPER SPECIAL like it was the most moist and fudgy chocolate cake ever existed in the universe and she went all out with the decoration too like with all the icing and the strawberries and the frosting like you'd think she was making a cake for the fucking queen at that point

she wrapped it up, handed it over to the cashier cause she was too shy to give it to him in person but jinwoo noticed her and their eyes met briefly before she bolted again and he was still like "????? am i that scary to normal people???"

then they went home and when jinwoo opened the cake it was like

✨syalalalaaaaa a nice slice of chocolate cake✨

and jinwoo was like "???? damn this is kinda crazy for a cake that's only worth 7k won" LMFAOOOASDKLFSADFLD

but then he saw this card written by her and he thought wow her handwriting is really pretty and he read it and it said "Thank you for making the world a better place." and at the bottom, she added a little "I really hope you'll like the cake!" with a silly face that went like 😣. it was clear from her handwriting that she was nervous when she wrote it and he found it endearing (and also jinwoo isn't dumb, he's pretty quick when it comes to things like this so he smiles fondly to himself, thinking oh that's why she was running away earlier. how cute.)

he took a bite of the cake and i shit you not he sat there in silence for a moment and just stared at the cake with rainbows and angels floating in the background like that was legit the best thing he's ever tasted and he was like well fuck gotta wife her up now ig

"hey, jinah. you go to that bakery often, right?"

"yeah, what about it?"

"the girl who made this cake for me. do you know who her name is?"

jinah was like "🤨 yeah, i've talked to her before. she's cool. what, you wanna file a complaint or something-"

jinwoo, grabbing his iced coffee: "i think i wanna take her out on a date"

jinah: *choking noises*

jinwoo: *slurping noises*

[ancientbeast]

you can check by flexing your wrist and touching your ring and/or pinky finger to your thumb

[bamsara]

Are you getting things proper off your thrones list twitch thing?

I am for the most part! There has been one or twice where something came in damaged, but support was helpful with fixing it or finding an alternative so far

[sleepyconfusedpotato]

Sleepy I miss your drawings so much 😭😭

I KNOW ANON IM SORRY 😭😭🙏

My commission is going to be done shortly (only a few left!!)

and uhh...

I kinda... fell in love irl?

HELP ME 😭🙏😂

BUT DON'T WORRY I WILL BE BACK!!

[dailyfigures]

hiiiiii everyone i'm just popping in to say that i probably won't be online much for a bit, meaning the queue will go on as always but i can't really answer asks much :( will be back on track as soon as i can!

[burningcrab]

i like surge for many reasons but among others i like that shes a cockroach. she will not fucking die. starline basically ran her through death traps until she could just shrug off things that should, by all rights, kill or incapacitate her, and now he's dead and the world just has an unkillable electric freak running on pure spite

[raycatz]

okay more on the loz-LU fandom shit today

here's the post that started it https://www.tumblr.com/candycain2356/787048612501880832

and the other https://www.tumblr.com/ovegakart/787066660591976448/you-know-what-it-is-fucked-up-so-many-artist-have

Someone: asks a clarifying question about whether or not alttp Link and Zelda are related. Responder: Gives a well rounded answer. One of the examples and additional context given is that asker may have heard of this hc since it's popular in LU, but that it's not canon. Ovega: I hate that LU is so prevalent. Ovega's fans: WOW THE LU FANDOM SUCKS WE HATE THEM Ovega: *joins in*

this is really similar to what happened when Ovega expressed humor and exasperation over some interpretations of Dark Link and Volga in one of her comics.

https://www.tumblr.com/ovegakart/765696907391664128/the-lu-fandom-is-maam-this-is-a-hyrule

Ovega: People keep commenting they think it's father-son. It's romantic lol Commenter: Only a LU fan would think it's father-son Ovega: STOP MAKING THIS ABOUT LU Ovega's fans: WOW THE LU FANDOM SUCKS. LOOK AT THE LU FANDOM MAKING IT ABOUT THEMSELVES AND FORCING HEADCANON ONTO US. THEY'RE SO ENTITLED.

In neither of these cases did a LU fan come in policing things. It's the people providing context or dissing LU who are making it about LU, and yet Ovega has been adding onto and encouraging hatred against the LU fandom. She's angry with the people answering questions but her and her followers are blaming the LU fandom for it. It's not fair.

I thought something people wanted from the LU fandom was to provide context to those who think it might be LU. However, in both these cases, it didn't start out as people thinking it must be LU, and yet that's what most of the anger in the reblogs and comments are about.

Nowhere did a LU fan come in saying anything had to be a certain way because it's like that in LU. Why is the LU fandom being blamed for this one??? (why is it that someone asking a clarifying question (or sharing a "bad" headcanon) is assumed to be a LU fan?)

here's my post from earlier, now with more conversation in the comments https://www.tumblr.com/raycatz/787099204091772929/peaks-into-the-lu-tag-oh-drama-tries-to-find-a

What's really frustrating is that she has a large audience of people eager to bash the LU fandom. It doesn't matter what the reason is and it doesn't matter if it makes sense.

[gingermintpepper]

As usual I read your tags always and so you said Apollo did not ask for resurrection of Asclepius and Hyacinthus so i just wanted to share this. About Asclepius death I read it on theoi.com, that earlier authors don't make him resurrect as a god but that's a later development mentioned only by Roman authors like Cicero, Hyginus and Ovid. But still Apollo has a role in Ovid's version

Ovid, Fasti 6. 735 ff (trans.Boyle) (Roman poetry C1st B.C. to C1st A.D.) : Clymenus [Haides] and Clotho resent the threads of life respun and death's royal rights diminished. Jove [Zeus] feared the precedent and aimed his thunderbolt at the man who employed excessive art. Phoebus [Apollon], you whined. He is a god; smile at your father, who, for your sake, undoes his prohibitions [i.e. when he obtains immortality for Asklepios].

So here it is actually because of Apollo the decision was taken to resurrect him as god. And with Hyacinthus, I don't think I've read about Artemis playing the primary role. I know in Sparta there was a picture of Artemis, Athena and Aphrodite carrying Hyacinthus and his sister to heaven.

This is not on theoi.com but I saw on Tumblr it's from Dionysiaca by Nonnus

Second, my lord Oiagros wove a winding lay, as the father of Orpheus who has the Muse his boon companion. Only a couple of verses he sang, a ditty of Phoibos, clearspoken in few words after some Amyclaian style: Apollo brought to life again his longhaired Hyacinthos: Staphylos will be made to live for aye by Dionysos.

So since he is singing inspired by amyclean stories it probably means in that place it was believed Apollo was the one to bring back his lover to life.

Apollo as god of order was very important so i think it shows how special these people (and admetus too) were to him that he decided to go against the order for them 🥺

ANON!! Shakes you like a bottle of ramune!! BELOVED ANON!!!!! I'm littering your face with kisses, I'm anointing you with olive oil and honey - you absolutely made my night with this because, not only did I get the pure serotonin shot of having someone interact with my tags (yippee, wahoo!!) I also got to have that wonderful feeling of "oh wow, have I misunderstood something that was integral to my understanding of this myth/figure this whole time or is this a case of interpretational differences?" which is imo vital for my aims and interests as someone who enjoys mythological content and literature.

I'll preface my response with this: Hyacinthus is by far the hardest of these to get accounts for because his revival itself, as you very astutely point out, is generally accounted for in painting/ritual format which muddies the waters on who interceded for what. I wasn't actually familiar with that passage from the Argonautica - and certainly didn't remember it so thank you very much for bringing it to my attention!

That said, what I've come to understand, both about Hyacinthus and about Asclepius is that in the accounts of their deaths, Apollo's position is startlingly clear.

For Hyacinthus, it is established time and again that Apollo would have sacrificed everything for him - his status, his power, his very own immortality and divinity. Ovid writes that Apollo would have installed him as a god if only he had the time:

(Ovid. Metamorphoses. Book X. trans. Johnston)

Many other writers too speak of how Apollo abandoned his lyre and his seat at Delphi to spend his days with Hyacinthus, but they also all agree that when it came to his death - he was powerless. Ovid gives that graphic account of Apollo's desperation as he tries all his healing arts to save him to no avail:

(Ovid, Metamorphoses Book X. Apollo me boy, methinks him dead. trans Johnston)

Bion, in one of his fragments, writes that Apollo was "dumb" upon seeing Hyacinthus' agony:

(Bion, The Bucolic Poets. Fragment XI. trans Edmonds)

Even Nonnus in the Dionysiaca speaks constantly of Apollo's helplessness in the face of Hyacinthus' fate where he writes that the god still shivers if a westward wind blows upon an iris:

and when Zephyros breathed through the flowery garden, Apollo turned a quick eye upon his young darling, his yearning never satisfied; if he saw the plant beaten by the breezes, he remembered the quoit, and trembled for fear the wind, so jealous once about the boy, might hate him even in a leaf...

(Nonnus, Dionysiaca, Book 3. trans Rouse)

And the point here is just that - Apollo, at least as far as I've read, cannot avert someone's death. He simply can't. Once they're already dead - once Fate has cut their string - all Apollo's power is gone and he can do nothing no matter how much he wants to. And this is, as far as I know, supported with the accounts of Asclepius as well!

Since you specifically brought up Ovid's account, I'll also stick only to Ovid's account but in Metamorphoses when we get Ovid's version of Coronis' demise, he writes that Apollo intensely and immediately regrets slaughtering Coronis. He regrets it so intensely that he, like he does with Hyacinthus, does his best to resuscitate her:

(Ovid, Metamorphoses Book Two. Apollo's regret)

And like Hyacinthus, when it becomes clear that what has happened cannot be undone, Apollo wails:

(Ovid, Metamorphoses Book Two. Apollo wept.)

Unlike his mother, Asclepius in her womb had not yet died and so, with the last of Apollo's strength, he does manage, at least, to save him.

(Ovid, Metamorphoses Book Two. Apollo puts the 'tearing out' in Asclepius.)

But it goes further than even that because Ocyrhoe, Chiron's daughter, a prophetess who unduly gained the ability to directly proclaim the secrets of the Fates, upon seeing the baby Asclepius, immediately prophesies his glory, his inevitable death and then his fated ascension:

(Ovid. Metamorphoses, Book Two. Ocyrhoe's prophecy. trans Johnston)

Before she too succumbs to her hubris and is transformed by the Fates into a horse so she can no longer speak secrets that aren't hers to share.

These things ultimately are important because it establishes two very important things: 1) Apollo can't do anything in the face of the ultimate Fate of mortals, which is, of course, death and 2) even when Apollo is Actively Devastated, regretful, yearning, mournful, guilty or some unholy combination of all of the above, when someone is dead, he accepts that they are gone. Even if he is devastated by it, even if he'll cry all the rest of his days about it - if they're dead? Apollo lets them go. In Fasti, when Zeus brings Asclepius back, he does not say Apollo asked him to - Zeus, or well, in this case Jove, brings Asclepius back because he wants Apollo to stop being mad at him.

(Ovid, Fasti VI. Apollo please come home your father misses you. trans. A.S Kline)

Even Boyle's translation which you used above in your findings hints that Zeus made Asclepius a god because he wanted Apollo to stop grieving. (i.e 'smile at your father', 'for your sake [he] undoes his prohibitions')

And like, Apollo was deeply upset by Asclepius' death - apart from killing the Cyclops in anger, in book 4 of the Argonautica, Apollonius writes that the Celts believe the stream of Eridanus to be the tears Apollo shed over the death of Asclepius when he left for Hyperborea after being chastised by Zeus for killing his Cyclops:

But the Celts have attached this story to them, that these are the tears of Leto's son, Apollo, that are borne along by the eddies, the countless tears that he shed aforetime when he came to the sacred race of the Hyperboreans and left shining heaven at the chiding of his father, being in wrath concerning his son whom divine Coronis bare in bright Lacereia at the mouth of Amyrus.

It all paints a very clear picture to me. Apollo did not ask for either of them to be brought back. Though bringing them back certainly pleased and delighted him, they are actions of other gods who are moved by Apollo's grief and mourning and seek to mollify him. Him not asking doesn't mean he didn't want them back which I think is a very important distinction by the by, but it simply means that Apollo knows the natural order of things and, even if it hurts, he isn't going to press his luck about it.

Which, of course, brings us to Admetus. And I'm really not going to overcomplicate this, Admetus is different because, very vitally, Admetus is not dead. Apollo can't do a thing once Fate has been carried out and Death has claimed a mortal but you know what he absolutely can do? Bargain like hell with the Fates before that point of inevitability. And that's what he does, ultimately for Admetus and Alcestis. He sought to prolong Admetus' life, not revive him from death or absolve him from death altogether and even after getting the Fates drunk, he's still only able to organise a sacrifice - a life for a life - something completely contingent on whether some other mortal would be willing to die in Admetus' place and not at all controllable by Apollo's own power.

All of these things, I think come back to that point you made - that Apollo's place as a god of order is very important and therefore these people are very special to him if it means he's willing to go against that order but, I also wish to challenge that opinion if you'd let me. Apollo's place as a god of order is very important and therefore, I would argue, that it is even more important that it is shown that he does not break the divine order, especially for the people that mean the most to him. The original context of my comments which started this conversation were on this lovely, lovely post by @hyacinthusmemorial which contemplated upon Asclepius from the perspective of an Emergency Medical personnel and included, in their tags, the very poignant lines "there's something about Apollo letting go when Asclepius couldn't that eats my heart away" and "you do what you can, you do your best, but you don't ever reach too far" and I think that's perfectly embodied with the Apollo-Asclepius dichotomy. Apollo grieves. He wails, he cries, he does his best each and every time to save that which is precious to him but he does not curse their nature, he does not resent that they are human and ultimately, he accepts that that which is mortal must inevitably die. There is nothing that so saliently proves that those who uphold rules are also their most staunch followers - if Apollo wants to delight in his place as Fate's mouthpiece, he cannot undo Fate. And, if even the god of healing and order himself cannot undo death, what right does Asclepius, mortal as he is, talented as he is, have to disrespect it?

The beauty of these stories isn't that Apollo loved them enough to bring them back. The beauty is that Apollo loved them enough to let them go.

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