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It turns out the best-ever image of a Super carrying a Bat was published in 1975.
#superman#batman#superman/batman#supers#bats#superman jr#batman jr#saga of the super sons#in the issue before this they basically did the plot of the Incredibles#and the issue before that one was gradually revealed to be based on Shakespeare's Tempest#this one's a twilight zone episode involving radical feminists (read female separatists) who somehow don't know what lesbianism is
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A Different Kind of Queen of Crime- five ways that Dorothy L Sayers changed the way we see Sherlock Holmes
For my first Holmesian post- a crossover with one of my more usual subjects on my other blog! For when one is talking about Sherlock Holmes, in particular Sherlock Holmes scholarship, there are nor many more pivotal names than Dorothy L Sayers. Sure, Christopher Morley may have had a greater impact on Sherlockian culture, and Richard Lancelyn Green on Holmesian scholarship, to name only a few- but Sayers's contributions to scholarship and "the game" were early and underratedly pivotal.
If you're a Sherlock Holmes fan who is unfamiliar with Sayers's influence, or a Sayers fan who had no idea she had any interest in Holmes, keep reading! (And if you're a Sherlock Holmes fan who wants to know what I think about Sayers, check out her tag on my main blog, @o-uncle-newt. Or, more to the point, just read her fantastic books.)
There's a great compilation of Sayers's writing and lecturing on the topic of Holmes called Sayers on Holmes (published by the Mythopoeic Press in 2001), though some of her essays are also available in her collection Unpopular Opinions, which is where I first encountered them. It's not THAT extensive, and it's from an era in which Sherlock Holmes scholarship, such as it was, was still very much nascent. While a lot may have happened since Sayers was writing and talking about Holmes, she got there early and she made an immediate impact- and here's how:
She helped create and define Sherlockian scholarship: Don't take this from me, take it from the legendary Richard Lancelyn Green! At a joint conference of the Sherlock Holmes Society and Dorothy L Sayers Society, he said that "Dorothy L. Sayers understood better than anyone before her the way of playing the game and her Sherlockian scholarship gave credibility and humor to this intellectual pursuit. Her standing as an authority on the art of detective fiction and as a major practitioner invigorated the scholarship, and her...Holmesian research is the benchmark by which other works are judged. It would be fair to say, as Watson said of Irene Adler, that for Sherlockians she is the woman and that …she 'eclipses and predominates the whole of her sex.'" We'll go into a bit more detail on some specific examples below, but one important one is that, as Green notes, Sayers was not only a mystery writer but an acknowledged authority on mystery fiction, whose (magisterial) introduction to The Omnibus of Crime, a then-groundbreaking history of the genre of mystery fiction, included a highly regarded section on the influence of Holmes on mystery fiction. She was able to write not just literate detective stories but literate critiques of others' stories and the genre (as collected in the excellent volume Taking Detective Stories Seriously), and as such, the writing she did on Holmes was well received.
She cofounded the (original iteration of) the Sherlock Holmes Society of London: While the current iteration of the Society lists itself as having been founded in 1951, a previous iteration existed through the 1930s, founded as a response to the creation of the Baker Street Irregulars in New York and run by a similar concept- the meeting of Sherlock Holmes fans every so often for dinner at a restaurant. Sayers, who seems to have been much more clubbable than Mycroft Holmes, helped run the Detection Club on corresponding lines as well. (Fun fact, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was invited to be the first president of the Detection Club! However, he refused on grounds of poor health and, either right before or right after he died, the Detection Club met for the first time with GK Chesterton as president.) While the 1930s society didn't last, and Sayers didn't decide to join the newly reconstituted club in 1951, her presence from the beginning was key to the establishment of Holmesian scholarship.
She helped define The Game: Sayers didn't invent The Game, as the use of Higher Criticism in the study of Sherlock Holmes came to be called. (The Game now often refers to something a bit broader than that, but it's a pretty solid working definition to say that it is the study of Holmes stories as though they took place in, and can be reconciled with, our world.) Her friend Father Ronald Knox largely invented it almost by accident- as Sayers described it, he wrote that first essay "with the aim of showing that, by those methods [Higher Criticism], one could disintegrate a modern classic as speciously as a certain school of critics have endeavoured to disintegrate the Bible." This exercise backfired, as instead of finding this analysis of Holmes stories silly, people found it compelling and engaging- and this style of Sherlockian writing lives on to this day in multiple journals. Sayers, with her interest in religious scholarship as well as Holmes, was well equipped to both understand Knox's original motivations as well as to carry on in the spirit in which further Game players would take his work, as we'll see. She also wrote the line that would come to define the tone used in The Game- that it "must be played as solemnly as a county cricket match at Lord's; the slightest touch of extravagance or burlesque ruins the atmosphere." While comedic takes on The Game would never vanish, her establishment of tone has lingered, and pretty much any in-depth explanation of The Game will include her insightful comment.
Some of Sayers's ideas became definitional: Here's a question- what's John Watson's middle name? If you said "Hamish," guess what- you should be thanking Dorothy L Sayers. (When this middle name was used for Watson in the BBC Sherlock episode The Sign of Three, articles explaining its use generally didn't bother to credit her, instead saying that "some believe" or a variation on that.) She was the one who speculated that the reason why a) Watson's middle initial is H and b) Mary Morstan Watson calls Watson "James" instead of "John" in one story is because Watson's middle name is Hamish, a Scottish variant of James, with Mary's use of James being an intimate pet name based on this nickname. It's as credible as any other explanation for that question, but more than that it became by far the most popular middle name for Watson used in fan media. Others of Sayers's ideas include that Watson only ever married twice, with his comments about experience with women over four continents being just a lot of bluster and him really being a faithful romantic who married the first woman he really fell for (the aim of this essay being to demolish HW Bell's theory of a marriage to an unknown woman between Mary Morstan and the unnamed woman Watson married in 1903, mentioned by Holmes in The Blanched Soldier); that Holmes attended Sidney Sussex College, Cambridge (she denied that he could have attended Oxford, having gone there herself- fascinatingly, Holmesians who went to Cambridge usually assert that he attended Oxford! Conan Doyle of course attended neither school); and reconciling dates in canon (making the case that one cannot base a claim for Watson's mixing up on dates on poor handwriting as demonstrated in canonical documents, as it is clear from the similarity of different handwriting samples from different people/stories that they were written, presumably transcribed for publication purposes, by a copyist).
She wrote one of the only good Holmes pastiches: Okay, fine, I'm unusually anti-pastiche, and genuinely do like very few of them, but this is one that I love- and even more than that, it's even a Wimsey crossover! On January 8 1954, to commemorate the occasion of Holmes's 100th birthday (because, of course, he was born on January 6 1854- Sayers was more in favor of an 1853 birthdate but thought 1854 was acceptable), the BBC commissioned a bunch of pieces for the radio, including one by Sayers. You can read it here (with thanks to @copperbadge for posting it, it's shockingly hard to find online), and I think you'll agree it's adorable. The idea of Holmes and Wimsey living in the same world is wonderful, the way she makes it work is impeccable, and it's clearly done with so much love. Also you get baby Peter, which is just incredibly sweet!
I got into Dorothy L Sayers, in the long run, because I loved Sherlock Holmes from childhood and that later launched me into early and golden age mysteries- but it was discovering Sayers that brought me back full force into the world of Holmes. Just an awesome lady.
#hm holmes quotes from shakespeare's twelfth night a lot#he must have an affinity for the play.#sherlock holmes#john watson#john hamish watson#holmes#acd holmes#sherlock holmes canon#sherlockiana#the game#watsonian#biblical higher criticism#dorothy l sayers#lord peter wimsey#ronald knox#sayers on holmes#so why was sherlock holmes born on january 6?#if you think you know why#no it's stupider than that#so this guy christopher morley who basically invented sherlockian scholarly fandom#as in he started the baker street irregulars which is the org from which pretty much all other scholarly fan societies got inspiration#was like “hm”#“holmes sure does quote from twelfth night a lot”#“he must have an affinity for the play.”#“and why would he have an affinity for the play? because the twelfth night (jan 6) is his birthday.”#and so it has remained ever since#making clear the advantages of being first
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SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE | 1998 ↳ Directed by John Madden
#shakespeare in love#william shakespeare#viola de lesseps#joseph fiennes#gwyneth paltrow#shakespeare#perioddramaedit#userbbelcher#userstream#cowboycoven2#chewieblog#filmtv#cinemapix#cinematv#fyeahmovies#moviegifs#filmedit#filmgifs#dailytvfilmgifs#dailyflicks#90s movies#*mine#1998#long post#thanks tumblruser rngaredead for the correction<3 i think i was basically 90% asleep by the time i made the caption
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Ok but being hyperfixated with bucky and stucky again means I unfortunately have to consume a lot of content and fan works and doing so I get SO MAD bc let's say we accept canon and it all ends bad, these two are destined to lose each others; fucking marvel didn't even do the tragedy part right. The way they fucked up and butchered my boy and the story(whatever kind of love u see) with Steve is infuriating even for their level of writing
#stucky#like i am basic and usually prefer happy endings but if i have to have a bad one my love u gotta give me a Shakespeare level of tragedy#hell even an average 00s teen drama..the way they write better scenes for villains ..#random tiktok from becky 15 yo can have more depth in 10 seconds than 2hrs from professionals
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the parallel between Lestat marking all the tenor's flat notes and Armand writing all his aggressive director notes for Claudia on the 500th performance... the performing community of Paris better thank their lucky stars everyday that lesmand didn't become a real couple because there would be no survivors
#they would have all killed themselves within a month..fucking in the box is honestly the kindest thing those bitches could do#modern/human au lesmand run the local youth theatre like the fucking navy#but whenever the moms are around they turn up the cute sassy gay couple charm#so no one even cares/notices that they are giving children permanent psyche issues#on another level though it would probably never work bc Lestat's basic ass would just want to do Shakespeare and classic musicals#while Armand would try to put on NYC black box plays about geopolitical conflicts#iwtv#m.text
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I don’t think I’ve made a proper post but I need more ppl to join in my misery but Glenn can never reunite with his universe’s Morgan
Cause the thing abt the universe swap is that every universe has their own afterlives so the Morgan that Glenn fell in love with originally does not exist in anyway in the world Glenn is in not in life or in death and the Morgan here (while likely living the same life up to to moment she met Glenn in the original timeline) is still a different person
All I’m saying is imagine finding out that the afterlife is real but knowing that you can never seen one of the only people you’ve ever loved in death because they don’t exist in this world anymore
#dndads#dungeons and daddies#Glenn close#glenn close dndads#morgan freeman#morgan freeman dndads#Glenn is the most tragic character like period#forget all the fucke Shakespeare wrote#forget Orpheus and Eurydice and antigone and every other Greek tragedy#Glenn close is the most tragic mf#lunarrosette’s shit#I just I’ll never get over him#and I feel like I didn’t even articulate the tragedy very well in this post#just like knowing that the afterlife exists and your love died and you died but you’ll never seen them again#bc the law in a dimension you were sent to by your piece of shit father is unfair#and the reason you were found guilty was because of the nature of how ur piece of shit father raised you#bc you never knew how to be emotionally vulnerable with your kid and maybe the only person u ever were vulnerable with died#I just the closes make me so unimaginable upset#SEND GLENN BACK TO HIS UNIVERSE#also don’t know entirely how timelines and the ‘multiverse’ works in dndads#so like for all we know there is only one universe that has been destroyed and reconstructed over and over again#and the versions of ppl lost in those reconstructions are worse than dead because they never existed#except for in the minds of the people who still remember past versions of the universe#also don’t get me started on nick and his tragedy#ALSO if the multiverse is properly a thing WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO OG TIMELINE GLENN AND NICK#did all the dads basically get swapped into the universe#like did Glenn in the not a father universe get swapped into being nicks father universe#BECAUSE THATS WORSE FOR JICK#*NICK#I just dndads really taught me to hate systems
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No more, but e'en a woman, and commanded By such poor passion as the maid that milks And does the meanest chares. Eve Best as CLEOPATRA in ‘Antony and Cleopatra’ (2014)
#for context: her husband has just died and she's saying (basically) how she's not a queen in this context but just a woman#and driven by mere womanly passions in the face of her loss#and that she'd be better served throwing her sceptre at the gods for taking her husband from her and telling them#that earth was as good as heaven until they took her husband from her#my gifs#eve best#cleopatra#antony and cleopatra#william shakespeare#i just loved her railing at the heavens#she's also (theatre joke) literally shouting at the gods#ESPECIALLY in the globe theatre
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My half of an art trade with the lovely @doppel-doodles! Mengtao in something rotten :D
#tam rambles#The prompt was basically to draw one of each other's OCs in the universe of one of our favorite fandoms!#The catch is the fandom must be a fandom the other isn't in haha.#Of course I choose my Shakespeare hyperfixation (Something Rotten)#I choose Mengtao because she's a cutie patootie and I love her!#Since in Something Rotten most of the characters are named after Shakespeare characters#I decided to give Mengtao the canon nickname of “Mariana” :D#Also have you noticed how inconsistent my painting style is??#But anyways yeah! Hope you enjoy Doppel :DD#Moots <3#My art#Something Rotten#Art trade#Lego Monkie Kid#Lmk oc#Not my oc
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(*Slides over drawing of William Shakespeare giving Romeo Montague period cramps with his mind)
#romeo and juliet#romeo montague#william shakespeare#shakespeare be damned#shakespeare memes#doodle#shaking pears amirite#this is basically what happened#shakespeare
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masc term likers imagine your f/o reading classics for whatever reason, maybe they just want to catch up on them or just found the book recently and found it interesting i don’t know. but as you’re trying not to disturb their reading session and wish them a quick good night, they just absentmindedly make a reference to one of their books saying “good night, sweet prince.” either with their usual tone of voice or in a silly fancy kind and it makes you freeze on the spot or makes you drop to your knees on the floor immediately, killing you
#sorry this post is for me#and for anyone else interested yeah#reference to shakespeare’s hamlet… that one line has ruined me#like imagining my f/o calling me prince basically#like. petname to consider for ANYONE. MASC TERM LIKERS. LIKE ME.#self ship#self shipping#also im about to sleep so goodnight LOL#❥ vels ramblings#masc term self ship imagines
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Hamlet should always be played as having just a bit gender dysphoria
#or a lot yk#ask me about hamlet and gender because oh boy#i cant think of phrase for when cis people feel like they aren’t doing their gender right#but that too#basically hamlet should always have a complicated relationship with gender#hamlet#shakespeare#the tragedy of hamlet prince of denmark#william shakespere#the tragedy of hamlet
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Stills from the Bridge Theatre's production of Shakespeare's Richard II.
#i'm really really Really normal about this#also. vinnie heaven numero uno campeão do mundo#they did it. they cast a perfect aumerle#like. my god#anyway#anyone gets weird in these notes it's an insta block. i do not joke when it comes to richard ii#my experience looking at this production is basically. shoving the bridgerton and wicked girlies out of the way and yelling IT'S VINNIE TIME#WOOOOOOOO#richard ii#shakespeare#radio free junebug
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I've had a vague urge to get more into Shakespeare for years; what are the top 3-5 plays you'd recommend that AREN'T Hamlet or Much Ado? And what version of each is your favorite?
(sorry for omitting two god tier ones but I've already seen David Tennant in each of those and I surmise that you're insane about both so I'm looking for some new plays)
gonna be some basic bitch answers but here:
macbeth - the tragedy of macbeth (2021) movie adaptation starring denzel washington. this movie is fucking stunning and the way they did the witches was SO good. also i have the throne of blood (kurosawa's adaptation) also on my watchlist since i've heard REALLY good things about it
richard ii - 2013 rsc production w/ david tennant (link). he gives me catastrophic gender envy, i need to become more masculine to become more feminine etc. ben whishaw in the hollow crown series (link) is great too
romeo and juliet - romeo + juliet (1996) movie adaptation directed by baz luhrmann. this is like, the most well known romeo and juliet and you might've watched it already but i'm listing this anyway because there will never be a better mercutio and the way they did the setting is SO fucking funny and inspired
twelfth night - so far only saw this one Outside On The Grass Where They Performed This At My College but i liked it a lot... reccing the 2012 globe production with mark rylance (part 1 / part 2) (his hamlet was one of dt's favorites as an aspiring actor) (i'm putting my faith in letterboxd and david's taste for this one)
coriolanus - 2014 donmar production w/ tom hiddleston (on archive.org). this is directed by josie rourke, who also directed dt/ct's 2011 much ado! the staging and the effects are fucking awesomeeee (also peter de jersey and elliot levey are in this, i love them)
also shoutout to the ones i want to watch:
the 2016 production of a midsummer night's dream w/ ncuti gatwa (i have found nowhere to pirate it and i might just crack and pay the 10 dollars to watch it)
the 2015 production of the love's labour's lost w/ edward bennett (he played laertes in hamlet (2009) and he's REALLY underrated, i love his benedick SO FUCKING MUCH even if that production overall was a little dull)
either hollow crown's or greg doran's henry iv (it's two whole plays i need so much time to watch that. and ideally i want to watch both lol)
kurosawa's ran (1985), an adaptation of king lear set in 1500s japan
vishal bhardwaj's omkara (2006), an adaptation of othello set in india
#most of these are basic bitch answers because instead of watching a wide variety of shakespeare like a normal person#i have instead dedicated my time to watching 17 hamlet adaptations. and i'm not even done i've got like 5 more on the watchlist#someone take that play away from me#also i linked everything but tragedy of macbeth and r+j; those are fairly non obscure movies and you should b able to find them on ur#movie pirating website of choice#in terms of subtitles i think twelfth night on ok.ru has embedded subtitles but if it doesnt you can download it#and grab subtitles off of opensubtitles.org. and i use happyscribe.org in case the subtitle timing is off#edit: peer reviewed by the comments . these aren't necessarily basic answers idk what was wrong with me ghlsfkjghlDKJHAFLJGK#oh also!!! this list isn't necessarily in order it's just a list to pick from#i think it's a good idea to look up the play to see if the premise interests you before jumping in#out of these i think coriolanus is the most accessible and easy to understand bc josie rourke is just great at that
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one does not simply realize they're transmasc
one sees david tennant's version of Hamlet and Benedick and realizes they're transmasc
#RIPPING MY HAIR OUT#I NEED TO BE HIM#I HAVE WATCHED BOTH PLAYS BACK TO BACK IN THE SPAN OF A WEEK#im loosing my mind#hamlet is my favorite tragedy and much ado about nothing is my favorite comedy i know it's basic but OH MY GOD#i love when david plays a weird little guy and talks odd#david tennant#hamlet#much ado about nothing#hamlet 2009#much ado about nothing 2011#shakespeare#benedick#much ado#transmasc#lgbtq#william shakespere#willy shakes
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in England rn and wdym someone said their name was Nigel??? I bet bro is a super fan of Shakespeare or smth
#nat talks#something rotten#something rotten!#sr#sr!#nigel bottom#I am in fact going to be in London for a week and then paris#One of the places we’re going is the globe theatre (basically Shakespeares theater)#I’d be so funny if they had like a history of shakespeare#And they mentioned works abt him or based off his work and sr was there#Anyways yippee😋😋😋
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