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visualtaehyun · 3 months ago
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TNP EP.1 language annotations & novel extras ✨
We made it y'all 🥹 It's finally here and I couldn't be happier!! Without further ado, let's get right into it~
Disclaimer: not a native Thai speaker, still learning 🙏
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I mentioned this already in my post about the trailer but there's some interesting linguistic switching getting kinda lost in translation in the introductory conversation between Charan and the King. Charan starts out all proper, using royal language:
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Charan: กระหม่อมเชื่อว่าฝ่าบาททรงมีเหตุผลส่วนพระองค์พ่ะย่ะค่ะ /gra-maawm cheuua waa faa-baat song mee haeht-phohn suaan phra-ohng, pha-ya-kha/ = I am certain that Your Majesty has Your Majesty's own justifications.
These will keep coming up so I'm just gonna explain all of them in one go here for y'all to refer back to:
-> กระหม่อม /gra-maawm/ = male 1st pers. pronoun used when addressing royalty -> ฝ่าบาท /faa-baat/= 2nd pers. pronoun used for royalty -> ทรง /song/ = prefix that turns common verbs into royal ones (here before มี /mee/ = to have), used in other royal context as well -> ส่วนพระองค์ /suaan phra-ohng/ = royal version of ส่วนตัว /suaan dtuaa/ = personal, private -> พ่ะย่ะค่ะ /pha-ya-kha/ = male (ending) particle used with royalty of certain ranks
The King then reprimands and reminds him not to use royal language (คำราชาศัพ��์ /kham raa-chaa-sap/) with him:
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Thipokbowon: ปู่พูดไปหลายครั้งนะ เวลาอยู่ด้วยกันสองคนนี่ไม่ต้องพูดราชาศัพท์ ยังไงเจ้าก็เป็น���ลานที่ปู่เลี้ยงดูมาแต่เด็ก /bpuu phuut bpai laai khrang na. weh-laa yoo duay gan saawng khohn nee mai dtaawng phuut raa-chaa-sap. yang ngai jao gor bpen laan thee bpuu liiang duu maa dtaae dek/ = I've mentioned this many times. When it's just the two of us, there's no need to use royal language. You're still the grandson that I've looked after since you were a boy.
He refers to himself as ปู่ /bpuu/ (= grandpa) with Charan and throughout the entire conversation refers to Charan either just by his name or เจ้า /jao/ (= polite affectionate 2nd pers. pronoun used by sb. who's senior/older for sb. who's junior/younger) - and in some instances หลาน /laan/ (= grandchild, nibling, or a nibling's child).
Once reminded, Charan stops speaking in royal register yet still remains formal and polite:
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Charan: ตอนนี้คุณปู่เป็นยังไงบ้างครับ /dtaawn nee khun bpuu bpen yang ngai baang, khrap/ = How are you doing currently, grandfather?
It's only when the King has given him his mission, while calling him หลาน /laan/, that Charan also uses the very familiar pronouns set by the King, referring to himself as หลาน /laan/, and ditches the formal คุณ /khun/ and ครับ /khrap/:
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Charan: ถ้าปู่ไว้ใจหลาน หลานจะไปนำมาให้ /thaa bpuu wai jai laan, laan ja bpai nam maa hai/ = If you trust me, grandpa, then I'll bring it to you.
He is of course back to royal language right away though lol:
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We're still not done with this scene though 🤡 Charan and the King use certain codes with each other that are explained in the novels since this chapter is a Charan POV one. The codes I mean are:
"The cicadas are shedding their skin. Summer must be coming soon."
the chamomile and oolong tea
If you don't care for novel details, you may of course scroll on to the next section but here is further explanation from Ch.3:
Thipokbowon: "I wish the cicada would have a little longer time... I wish summer would come later, but that's not going to happen." -> "Charan had long ago read about the life cycle of cicadas from a children's book the king had given him. The king had said, 'The life cycle of cicadas is one of the world's wonders. The nymphs live underground for two to seventeen years until they are strong enough to emerge, molt, and continue their species above ground.' So, it means... the time has come."
"Chamomile tea meant the king wanted to relax and have a casual conversation. If he chose this tea, it meant he just wanted to see Charan and talk a bit, maybe ask about his well-being. But if he chose oolong tea, it meant he had a secret task for Charan, and the order would vary based on the king's needs."
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Nin is a business student and I was so delighted to see they actually went with Bayes Business School as the authors had outlined in these character profiles over two years ago!!
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In the novels, Nin is making his way from home to the uni's Fencing Club and gets on at Earl's Court station. The tube station Nin makes his way to in this EP. though looks to be set at London Bridge station, judging from the signage:
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All the way from when Charan and Nin first talk to each other here, up until a certain point in the EP., they both use ผม/คุณ /pom, khun/ (= polite formal male 1st pers. pronoun and polite formal 2nd pers. pronoun) with each other, no polite particles in sight though!
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Nin: นี่คุณมาตามจีบผมหรอ /nee khun maa dtaam jeep pom raaw/
-> จีบ /jeep/ isn't as harmless and noncommittal as 'flirting', it's actively pursuing, wooing, courting, there is intent. In the novels, it's Nin's friends who suggest this guy might be stalking him because he fancies Nin so it's all the more funny having Nin say it himself! Really says something about his confidence lol
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The dish Thatdanai is preparing is likely either regular Khao Soi, which is Emmaly's national dish in the novels, or the version they created for the series that Nunew spoiled the other day during their LINE MAN live :D
Thatdanai and Nin refer to themselves and each other as พ่อ /por/ (= dad) and Nin นิน, his dad also calls him ลูก /luuk/ (= child, son) sometimes. Keep all of this in mind as it changes later :(
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-> from Ch.1: "Khanin thought his father seemed more like a soldier than a writer, with his stern demeanor, strictness, and firm voice that he often used during fencing practice. It felt like being trained by a medieval knight commander." + "In reality, Tatdanai's main job was as a ghostwriter for celebrities, mostly writing autobiographies of athletes."
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Thatdanai, interrupting Ran: ผมจัดการเอง /pom jat-gaan eng/ = I'll handle it myself. Nin: แล้วเมื่อกี้พ่อบอกพ่อจะจัดการ พ่อจะจัดการอะไรอะ /laaeo meuaa gee, por baawk por ja jat-gaan. por ja jat-gaan a-rai a/ = And you just said you would handle it. What're you going to handle?
-> จัดการ /jat-gaan/ = deal with, handle, manage, take care of
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This is way bigger than what they called a party in the novel xD
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It's giving American teen movie house party rather than the comparatively small get-together in Ch.6 lol – in the novels, they're just sitting in a circle together drinking and playing party games on Samantha's roof. Nin knows Samantha's friends from playing music with them (he was on keyboard) and occasionally uploading covers on tiktok, they're music geeks and film students. Charan, by the way, is the only one not drinking alcohol in the novels.
It's interesting they made Khanin aware of the Emmalian belief about kissing so early on cause he finds out much later in the novels which puts things into perspective for him. I do love though how they conveyed that info to both him and the audience (I previously addressed my doubt about how to nicely incorporate this into the show in an ask (spoilers ahead!)).
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Thatdanai: ผมไม่รู้จะบอกเขายังไงดี ก็ตลอดเวลาที่ผ่านมาผมรู้สึกผูกพันกับเขาเหมือนเขาเป็นลูกแท้ ๆ ของผม /pom mai ruu ja baawk khao yang ngai dee. gor dta-laawt weh-la thee phaan maa, pom ruu-seuk phuuk phan gap khao meuuan khao bpen luuk thae thae khaawng pom/ = I don't know how to tell him. Throughout all this time, I've become attached to him as if he was my real son.
Then once Nin enters, Charan starts speaking to him using royal language:
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Ran: ท่านชายคณินทร์ พระองค์มีสายเลือดของกษัตริย์ และฝ่าบาทต้องเสด็จกลับเอมมาลี /than-chaai Khanin, phra-ohng mee saai leuuat khaawng ga-sat. lae faa-baat dtawng sa-deht glap Emmaly/ = Prince Khanin is of royal blood. And Your Royal Highness must return to Emmaly.
-> ท่านชาย /than-chaai/ = Nin's title, his rank is lower than his biological father's for example: Prince Tharin เจ้าชายธาริน /jao-chaai Tharin/ -> พระองค์ /phra-ohng/ = previously mentioned, can be the royal equivalent to ตัว 'body, self' as well as a 3rd pers. pronoun used for certain ranks of royalty -> เสด็จ /sa-deht/ = another royal verb used for any movement by a royal; used in other royal context as well
And then everything's falling apart...
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Thatdanai, after bowing to his own son: ท่านคือท่านชายคณินทร์ /than keuu than-chaai Khanin/ = You are Prince Khanin, Sir. -> ท่าน /than/ = respectful formal 2nd pers. pronoun
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กระหม่อม... ไม่ใช่พ่อที่แท้จริงของท่าน /gra-maawm... mai chai por thee thae jing khaawng than/ = I... am not your real father, Sir.
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[...] ที่ฝ่าบาทจะต้องกลับเอมมาลี /thee faa-baat ja dtawng glap Emmaly/ = that Your Royal Highness must return to Emmaly.
I cried buckets over Nin and Thatdanai, y'all. Both while reading the books as well as while watching this singular EP 🥹
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Charan is also in royal language mode:
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Ran: หน้าที่ของกระหม่อมคือดูแลและปกป้องฝ่าบาท /naa-thee khaawng gra-maawm kheuu duu-lae lae bpok-bpaawng faa-baat/ = My duty is to take care of and protect Your Royal Highness.
When Nin sits down with his dad to have him explain everything, Thatdanai calls Nin ฝ่าบาท /faa-baat/ and himself กระหม่อม /gra-maawm/ again and uses royal register. And since I've reached the picture limit and that's a new one for me 🤡 no more screenshots from here on out but I'm almost done, thankfully
เสด็จปู่ของท่านชายเป็นเจ้ามหาชีวิตของประเทศเอมมาลี /sa-deht bpuu khaawng than-chaai bpen jao ma-haa cheewit khaawng bpra-theht Emmaly/ = Your Royal Highness's grandfather is the King of Emmaly. -> เสด็จ /sa-deht/ = here used as a prefix for a member of the royal family, kind of like- venerable grandfather -> เจ้ามหาชีวิต /jao ma-haa cheewit/ = the king's title
ขบวนเสด็จของเจ้าหญิงคุณิตา พระมารดาของฝ่าบาท ถูกมุ่งร้าย /kha-buan sa-deht khaawng jao-ying Khunita, phra-maan-daa khaawng faa-baat, thuuk moong raai/ = The royal procession of Princess Khunita, Your Royal Highness's mother, got targeted. -> พระมารดา /phra-maan-daa/ = มารดา /maan-daa/ is already the formal expression for 'mother', พระ /phra/ is a prefix added for royalty
เจ้าชายธารินสูญเสียพระชายาและพระโอรสไป /jao-chaai Tharin suun siia phra-chaa-yaa lae phra-oh-roht bpai/ = Prince Tharin lost his royal consort and his son. -> พระชายา /phra-cha-yaa/ -> พระ /phra/ see above + ชายา /chaa-yaa/ = consort, wife -> โอรส /oh-roht/ = royal expression for 'son'
When Thatdanai later comes to check on Nin and leaves him the caramel candy, he's back to พ่อ /por/ (= dad) and Nin นิน 🫠
NEXT WEEK: Ran and Nin on the move, meeting Vetith (Vatis? Wetid? ...เวทิศ!) in Thailand, Tharin finds out his son is alive, more tears and more bickering!
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⇒ emblems, territories and royal houses of Emmaly ⇒ royal family of Emmaly + other character bios ⇒ relationship chart ⇒ characters and cast of TNP ⇒ all my TNP posts
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visualtaehyun · 6 months ago
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Adding on P'Den and his partner :>
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A few more joyful things from 1st and 2nd days of marriage equality in Thailand 💗❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
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Photos of happy couples:
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helenofblackthorns · 1 year ago
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robert lightwood's character is so crazy like in tmi he's just alec's homophobic dad and then all of sudden your reading his internal monologues about how he doesn't like women and feels like he's performing in nearly every aspect of his life and how weirdly close him and his bestie (who's in love with him) are. like huh.
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gr33nish · 1 month ago
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this image appeared in my mind like a curse since i started my teen wolf rewatch + started following @putting-eddie-munson-in-places
derek & eddie: 🕴🕴
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visualtaehyun · 6 months ago
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Has no one posted this yet or????
P'Aof shared this clip as a reward for trending on twt from when they were filming the pilot and the boys kissed for the first time :D
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visualtaehyun · 5 months ago
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They're literally this meme 🤣
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(🌚 Dude, dude! - 🌝 Yeah, yeah!)
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YES ARM! YES GUN! Match-make! Conspire! Make these two get their shit together so they can fall in love and be happy!
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inafieldofdaisies · 2 months ago
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Character Edit | Sabrina Donovan feat. @raresvtm's OC Bella
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[ @socially-awkward-skeleton @lilywatt @simonxriley @derelictheretic @kyberinfinitygems @cassietrn @strafethesesinners @strangefable @voidika @josephslittledeputy @trench-rot @purplehairsecretlair @carlosoliveiraa @cloudofbutterflies92 @killyourrdarlingss @g0dspeeed @shellibisshe @aceghosts @elligatorrex @vampireninjabunnies-blog @la-grosse-patate @katsigian @dumbassdep @imogenkol @josephseedismyfather @direwombat @simplegenius042 ]
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if-loki-was-a-fox · 5 months ago
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anyways. anyone else ever think about how Arthur starts frequently using the word "love" to describe his and John's relationship from the end of part 20 onwards, but John doesn't actually use the word himself until part 43. because. I think about that sometimes.
(john more uses words like "friends" and "care" to talk about their relationship, up until part 43)
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sebby-art-blog · 11 months ago
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On a vampire kick right now. Dracula is a WIP, Aro is just a lil doodle.
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visualtaehyun · 7 months ago
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I have no clue what acting coaches/studios GMMTV works with, aside from P'Ninew or P'Jo, but I know my Domundi stuff skdjslks so I might as well highlight the ones doing the workshops and acting coaching:
Many Mandee Productions and Domundi actors have worked with acting coaches Fuang and Om who both used to be teachers at Spark Drama Studio before opening their own studio, Theatrum Bangkok. They've been involved in workshops for Your Sky, The Next Prince, Khemjira, Zomvivor, Step By Step, I've seen them post about the upcoming Me and Who, and Kru Fuang also featured on DMD Friendship the Reality: It Takes Two for ep.3's acting mission.
One of Spark Drama Studio's acting instructors, Kru Rom, is also a certified Intimacy Coordinator who's worked on The Paradise of Thorns and After Sundown.
And there's also P'Den, who's the acting coach for The Next Prince, Khemjira, Zomvivor, and War of Y. He's actually worked on Only Friends, as a scriptwriter, too. :)
The bulk of Domundi's acting training definitely comes from acting coach and director Kru Kla though! He's been involved in either workshops and/or the acting coaching on set for Why R U, YYY, You Never Eat Alone, Y Destiny, Cutie Pie, Bed Friend, Naughty Babe, Battle of the Writers, and now Your Sky.
Apart from that, Nong Kong's also tweeted out to some concerned twt girlies fans about the now infamous improvised kiss:
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"You guyssss I want to say, about improvising, that you don't need to be worried~ It may be improvised, that's true, but me and P'Tho always talk to each other, if we do something, to which point we're okay. We accept/consent to each other. Even though in that clip, I might look like I'm behaving oddly- it's because I got shy 55555 But you guys don't need to worry. Everyone at Domundi gets taught about always asking for consent. We are very at ease with each other, and P'Kla also had us look first, before uploading, if we felt comfortable with uploading it. Thank you guys for worrying. I appreciate it~ Love you guys so much! I want everyone to be happy along with us" (translation by me)
Has there ever been a Domundi 'ship that couldn't kiss? Because whatever workshopping they're doing is seriously better than almost all of the competition. (As much as I love many of the GMMTV boys, some of them could use some workshopping. I wish Pond and Phuwin would do a Ninew Pinya workshop tbh because he gets the flipping best results. I can't WAIT to see what Ninew does as a solo director, and I'm so glad GMMTV hired him. [He's doing Only Friends 2 sans Jojo!])
Anyway, this post brought to you by Thomas and Kong doing a lovely job with their kiss scene in yesterday's Your Sky episode.
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3point14a · 3 days ago
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el poder de tener impresora
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aqui estan las imagenes originales
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plumbbobtoggle · 7 months ago
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Household 3/20: The Dars
Saeed Dar Senator Atheer Dar's son, Chief Administrative Officer for Elsewhere Township, family man Adam Dar, né McClain Saeed's husband, staff writer at The Brindleton Herald, breakfast food and children's poetry enthusiast Frances Dar Adam and Saeed's daughter, student at Elsewhere Elementary, avid reader Bella family's cocker spaniel
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visualtaehyun · 4 months ago
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As the resident The Next Prince girlie, allow me to clear up some of your questions, Petty ✨️
That first picture is indeed promo material - from this novel boxset! (which I'll be holding in my hands by the end of this week and can talk about more then hehe)
As for the characters and houses and colors-- I've prepared a few handy references for you:
Assavadevathin 🐎
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His Majesty Thipokbowon, the King of Emmaly; his grandson Young Master Khanin (NuNew); his son Prince Tharin
Bhuchongpisut 🐍
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Prince Ratchata; his son Young Master Ramil (Jimmy); Ramil's Close Attendant Paytai (Ohm)
Dawichmetha 🐦‍🔥
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Prince Chana; his daughter Young Mistress Ava (Kris)
Meenanagarin 🦈
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Prince Wasin
Pitakdeva
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not one of the royal Houses; Charan (Zee); his late mother Chita
And Net's character Prince Calvin Lee is from a different country, he doesn't relate to Emmaly's royal Houses at all 🙏
A few weeks ago, this image popped up and people were saying it was a promo image for the The Next Prince.
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And now that we got the kingdoms, it seems likely that the image is legit.
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So does that mean I'm getting color coding?
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But it's been switched up?!
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So the names are different for all of them, but I think that's a translation error because NuNew's character is the golden kid with his innocent white outfit.
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Jimmy's character is still here with his boo, and his character is still green.
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And although Net replaced Thomas, the character still seems to be blue.
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But the one character whose first name perfectly aligns with the Pink Prince is Zee's character, so he isn't just a guard, but a prince himself?
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So why is homegirl here? Is she a fake? A sibling? WHO IS SHE?!
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What shenanigans are afoot?!
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Google translate of Mandee's Instagram images.
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does she have bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, and psychosis?
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submit your own characters here to be featured!
reason: She’s CONSTANTLY stimming and misunderstands social situations at times (also autism projection)
She has a canonical depressive episode, and a pretty heavily implied manic episode in New Moon (purposely putting herself in danger and doing increasingly reckless actions, hallucinations- which can sometimes be caused by bipolar episodes or BPD)
She has EXTREME abandonment issues relating to Edward (and Alice (and to a smaller extent Jacob))
I headcanon that Edward is her FP
(The anxiety and depression feel obvious— it’s not outright stated but cmon… look at her… do you think she’s calm and chill any day in her life? /hj)
submitted by @rotteneldritchhorror
*this character was also submitted for autism, anxiety, and depression. this was featured in the previous poll.
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who-do-i-know-this-man-s3 · 11 months ago
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⚠️Vote for whomever YOU DO NOT KNOW⚠️‼️
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visualtaehyun · 11 months ago
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For one, I am dying laughing here but also-- google translate surprisingly isn't far off for once lmao
I'm clearly lacking context here so I'm gonna page someone myself :P @airenyah our resident joong-twt-chaos enjoyer!
As for translating-
Dunk: "Fighting!/Good luck!"
Joong: "Which P'Katoey raised you, dude?"
Some context by a Thai ZNN fan I follow, unrelated to JD's tweets:
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Dunk used a slang expression at the end, คุณน้า /khun naa/ which, literally, is just a polite address for an aunt, uncle, or someone of that age, but it's become a slang expression (that doesn't really carry any meaning) which, as far as I know, became a viral slang because of P'Erk Chrrissa who's a famous youtuber, singer, and trans woman. New slang used on twt and by young people is most often popularized by or originates from trans women and queer folks so I'm assuming that's where Joong's question is coming from.
Hope that helped :D and obviously if there's some crucial context I'm missing, please correct me 🙏
Paging @visualtaehyun for another bonkers translation
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Autotranslation gives me "what ladyboy raised you"?????
What?!
Bella, what is happening here, I can't even make up a reason for this to be a real thing Joong said.
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