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[cornyonmains]

I think there's an interesting contrast in Dead Friend Forever and 4 Minutes, seeing as they're Sammon's two latest projects. DFF and 4 Minutes are both shows about rich/privileged people doing awful shit to people in socioeconomically disadvantaged positions. As they're won't to do. Sammon, I feel, has fava beans and a nice chianti on deck should society ever decide to eat the rich.

I think the contrast between Por and Great is important to examine when we're looking at the kind of characters Sammon has created a narrative justification for revenge against. Between the two characters, Por is the one who has been most ruined by money. Great may have never had to dig up couch change to pay for a dollar menu cheeseburger, but him having no idea what coins were was about half-charming. Benign at the very least.

Por, on the other hand, was a miserable little bastard who used money to manipulate, control, or torture everyone around him. You still see him engaging in that behavior by the start of the series, long after the events with Non. He's still using his money to buy a loyal crew of orbiters who won't dare oppose him when there's privilege down one path and ruination down the other.

I don't think 4 Minutes is going to have a fluffy ending, but I don't necessarily think things are going to end with either one of them dying. That scene of them in the canoe together in the trailers was giving womb/rebirth. If we're operating from the assumption Great is going back in time to fix things and get closer to Tyme, future Great is probably not onboard with what his family is doing, and helping Tyme take them down could be a goal of his in that hospital bed.

I don't think this show is going to be as simple as who lives or dies being the big question answered at the end. I think the question to be asked by thee end of the series will be if the price of subverting fate is worth it. Great and Tyme could very well walk away from the end of this series having burnt their entire worlds down to subvert fate. It's why I think the sex scene coming in episode 4 is going to be really important. Tyme's going to be the first emotional connection that Great has felt with anyone in years. The idea fate itself is using that emotional vulnerability to tie him to Tyme, to make him an instrument in tearing down his own family is much meatier than him simply being on a quest to save Tyme.

It'd be a much more interesting ending if they both survive as a morally ambiguous pair willing to do the worst for each other.

[kinnporschedaily]

📷 : beoncloud.official

[hiimzach]

sooo does anyone wanna share where they're watching 4 minutes if you're from a country where viu is unavailable? im vibrating out of my seat as we speak

[outofthemouthsof]

Alrighty then.

Assuming not a BL but sharing anyway? 🤷‍♀️

[crystalball807]

Bible Wichapas 9gag account "camonoz" scandal continued...

Now that we have established that the 9gag account belongs to Bible Wichapas, and have listed a few homophobic and transphobic posts, let's just do a mega dump of a few of the misogynistic posts.

We will start with the sexualization of women.

Yes, there are more - many more.

Now, posts demonstrating a misogynostic attitude and outlook. We already know from the posts above that he is an a$$ man.

It just goes on and on.

I know I said we would focus on misogyny, but lets throw in a couple of racist/nazi posts as well, since a few fit both categories

[lamonnaie]

barcode leaving beoncloud hmmm

with the way things are going, we're gonna get another announcement from gmmtv next week 😭😭

[davincsoo]

Everyone: we need more of Bible's ass in our lives.

Be on cloud: you're welcome.

[dianxiacantastemolecules]

Ok who was gonna tell me you get to see bare ass like 30 mins into the first episode of "4 minutes"

[guzhufuren]

i wish good acting coaches to mandee, comprehensive writers to starhunter, resources to yyds entertainment and dee hup house, all the luck on their endeavours to change2561, many sponsors to idolfactory, to always have ethical intimacy coordinators on their team to memindy, and quality mics and cameras without the gray fucking filter to gmmtv

[cornyonmains]

I am so deeply not prepared for how 4 Minutes is going to end. Dead Friend Forever was different, because Sammon is a good writer, and you definitely walked away from those characters thinking nothing of value was lost. Well, except White and maybe motorcycle guy, but even their losses were used really intelligently in the overall theme of revenge the show played with. You walked away more interested in the show's messaging than who lived or died.

It's different with the characters in 4 Minutes. You see a lot of moral complexity that characters like Top and Por lacked in DFF. I'm afraid 4 Minutes is going to be more of a gut punch. I don't know if it's because these characters are distinctly more moral than the characters in DFF, or if the adult characters in general are just allowing me to relate more, but I've just got a feeling this show is going to do some damage. Take lanky cop for example. Is Sammon really going to stop being ACAB overnight?

I'm so distraught.

[kinnporschedaily]

Happy Second Anniversary KinnPorsche The Series! Happy Birthday Kinn Porsche Daily! 📸: beoncloud_th

[shall-we-go-far-away]

first friday without 4 minutes and I just had the worst time realizing Tonkla never knew Korn died too like yes I love pain, I love being miserable I am so sad

[syrena-del-mar]

So, one of the medications that Non is taking is 1mg of Lorazepam (Ativan). Usually it’s used to treating anxiety disorders and sleeping disorders

Some of the more serious side effects/withdrawals are hallucinations, delusions, and unusual mood changes.

Medication tampering isn’t an unheard of trope when it comes to slasher films. Did someone switch his meds to fuck with him? Were they drinking during the first time they went to Por’s vacation home? Alcohol and Lorazepam are two depressants that shouldn’t be mixed, since it can also cause hallucinations, delusions, blackouts, impaired memory and unusual moods.

Curious to see if they reveal the other medications Non has been taking.

[crystalball807]

Bible Wichapas 9gag account "camonoz" scandal

There are many who claim that the 9gag posts attributed to Bible Wichapas are fake, photoshopped, or that the 9gag account wasn't Bible's.

Let's start with the facts.

A BL news site on twitter - @Boynivers - reported that a 9gag account (camonoz) created many year ago belonging to Bible Wichapas was filled with posts, likes, and comments that were problematic. The dates of the posts ranged from when Bible would have been in his mid teens to age 20.

The BL news site and others took screenshots of posts that were homophobic, misogynistic, transphobic, racist, and pedophilic. 

Immediately after the report, the owner of the account deleted it.

However, you can still locate the site through the web archive. https://web.archive.org/web/20230807192156/https://9gag.com/u/camonoz

Dedicated fans claim the account wasn’t Bible’s, but there are too many coincidences to deny that the account belonged to him.

The account display name was "bsumettikul" and username was "camonoz", both of which have been used by Bible Wichapas. His instagram and Twitter share the same "bsumettikul" and his gaming account is "camonoz".

Fans suggest that someone purposely created the account to set up Bible, but the account was created when Bible was a teenager and before he was famous and was mysteriously deleted the day it was reported.

Some ex fans identified his hand in a picture uploaded by the account and others matched his speech style to other posts he has made publicly.

There is no doubt that the account belonged to Bible.

Now that we have established ownership and authenticity...what did the account contain? Keep in mind, this is just a smattering of the problematic posts... Let's break it out into categories.

Homophobia, transphobia, and jokes about the LGBTQ+ community (keeping in mind his job is PORTRAY A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY):

The above image could be racism as well as transphobia...

Let's show a few examples of pedophilia.

Ok...this post is already too long. I will dedicate an entire post to the misogynistic posts from Bible on 9gag. Stay tuned.

[kinnbig]

Not gonna lie, I got excited when I saw that Be On Cloud reblogged your ArmKhun gif set! I have been seeing a lot more coverage of the Tong and Bas recently, so I hope it means we could possibly get a series focused on them. Their chemistry is great, and it might give you and other ArmKhun enthusiasts more material to gif, make fanart, write, etc. I always enjoy your posts!

yay I’m glad you like the ArmKhun posts!! every day I hope that BOC will give us a TongBas series - but unfortunately tumblr user @beoncloud is not actually associated with BOC lmao so we can’t take it as any kind of sign:((

still, I’m ✨manifesting✨

[anotherblblog]

2023 Top BL Fanmeets

In 2023, I was able to continue my international bl fan ways and I had a lot of fun going to several events and getting to meet and greet and re-meet and re-greet some of my absolute favorites. I am definitely hitting picture limit with this one but here are my top bl fanmeets and whatnots

1. My School President Prom Night

Ok, MSP definitely was one of my most pleasant bl surprises of the year. I only started the show because Mark Pakin was in it but the earnestness and charm completely had me hooked, although I still sometimes hear "Hot Wave" in my head and snicker. When the live show was announced, I wanted to go and this event was a trial and tribulation to get a ticket for. Second to PP's for how much I overpaid because of 3rd party ticketers and this one had the unique galling factor that my reseller would only sell me 2 tickets and not one. So Day 1, I arrive, get my goodies and take my seat. The show starts and I was thoroughly impressed by the show. These kids put on a hell of a show and I have been to somewhere around 10 GMMTV live concerts and MSP was easily the best one. And because I ended up with two tickets it meant I got 2 photos with the cast. So after I took my first one, the staff moved me to the end of the photo line for my second one. In the immediate moment, I thought this was really inefficient and an inconvience to me because the goodbye sessions for these events are long. LONG. VERY, VERY LONG. But me going through twice and being the last fan to get a picture with the cast meant that when the boys saw me again they knew the fan portion was over, so they were so excited and energized to see me again and they laughed after I said now we could all go home. My two tickets were for Day 1 but I was still in Bangkok for Day 2 but didn't wanna go sit in the venue again but still wanted to hear it, so I bought a virtual ticket for Day 2 and I got the ticket with a raffle chance to win a video call with a ship from the show. I bought 2, one for MarkFord and one for Gem4th and I ended up winning the video call with MarkFord, so I was hella elated. Fast forward a month or so and I'm sitting in a zoom lobby for like half an hour and then suddenly I get moved into a zoom room and I see Mark and Ford and then they see me and have a big reaction and are exclaiming something but I hadn't connected to the audio yet but when I do they're like "it's you again!" and the commotion causes Gemini to come over and he sees me and goes roughly "hey bro, I remember you bro, I love you bro!" and then I have one of the fastest minutes of my life chatting with more Ford because of his comfort with English but it was great and I wore a sleeveless sweater vest and they commented on it and I said I was repping TwiPor and it was really great moment. So with both a fucking really great concert, a funny meet and greet/photo op story, and a bonus video call with the actor that got me into the show, MSP Prom Night takes my very coveted number 1 BL fanevent of 2023. Also! This happened in the spring and for Beluca Manila (winter) fans there recognized me from my last picture with the group and the boys energy at my reappearance. Really cute.

2. PP Krit ~ Lit and Glitter

My number 2 favorite show of the year was PP's first solo show Lit and Glitter. I Told Sunset About You is still my favorite Thai series and a good number of the staff at Cape Pawna Resort (Oh-Aew's house) know me by name and sight because everytime I got to Thailand, I work in a trip to Phuket. My very first BL fanevent ever was BKPP's Last Twilight in the Park. So when I saw the announcement of PP's first solo concert, this was half my anchor event for my spring trip. I can't remember if this was announced before My Beautiful Man Eternal but either way, I wanted to go real bad. It was another trial and tribulation to get a ticket for PP's show and............................ it was so damn difficult. Really fucking difficult. The scammers were out and tried very hard to deceive me but I perserved and found what I hoped was a legit seller and ended up with tickets to both nights of PP's show. Lit and Glitter was my first Thai show of that trip and it rivals MSP Prom Night for highest production value and budget (I presume). One of my irl bl besties is also a huge fan, so I got merch for us both and one of my newly made bl twitter friends who was instrumental in getting me connected to a legit reseller ended up sick and not being able to go so I got her merch as well. PP's show was amazing. It was fun, it was cunty, Billkin sang Alicia Keys with him and they both cried their way through their duets and I was tearing up too. I met a lot of fans and had some great conversations with people. It was a whole ass vibe. I luckily ended up being the first fan to get a picture with PP for the goodbye session, so I got a little more time on stage with him while they were finalizing the camera and whatnots. I lived in Hollywood/LA for a few years and that coupled with my travels and adventures I have been fortunate enough to meet many celebs I admire and people I find hella fucking attractive. Having around 1 minute of eye contact and smiles and polite conversation with PP Krit was easily a top 3 celeb moment of my life. The bambi eyes and just aura of that beautiful human being! Incredible. If I didn't luck my way into that vid call with MarkFord, this would be my number 1. It was an amazing show and the meet and greeting with PP was a true fucking delight. A friend I made in line was kind enough to take a video of my meet and greet and it's something I show all the damn time.

3. Gun and Friends events aka GMMTV Fanday in Osaka, Beluca Manila, and Starlympics

Ok so like, Gun is literally my number 1 GMMTV actor and this year I've gotten to see him many times and have been blessed to have so many little moments and conversations and jokes and smiles and amazing times, it's been so fucking incredible. Anytime I go to an event with Gun, it always becomes Gun (and maybe another person) and friends because Gun is my number 1. BUT I have always said at least "hi/hello/nice to see ya (again)" to Off and he and I have had some fun jokes too at my many appearances at their events. My number 2 GMMTV actor is Tay Tawan so when they started doing this Beluca (OffGun TayNew joint collab concert series) series, it was definitely on my radar and I was happy to see some shows were scheduled when I was already wanting to be back in Asia and I just keep having great moments with them. Last year, I went to Love Out Loud Fest and that was the first time I saw them in person on stage (along with BrightWin and KristSingto) but this year I got to get meet and greet and have hi touches and convos with Gun and Tay (and New and Off). Started my bl fan year with Gun, Mix, and friends in Osaka and ended my bl fan year with Gun, Tay, and friends in Manila. So like I've won as a Gun fan. And damn it all to hell, if Tay Tawan isn't a troll and tease. I ended up with 3 pictures/hi touches at Beluca Manila and after my first walk through, Tay would always make some joke at me and also laugh because I kept hoping I'd be in front of Gun and would say as much in jest to him as I ended up in front of him/Tay twice. OffGun and TayNew are veterans at fanmeets and so professional yet entirely engaging and fun to be around. Beluca in Manila was definitely the hypest crowd and best emceed bl event I've ever been to - absolute biggest shout out to Mela Habijan for being the best fucking host, she kept the energy up and also told the crowd (politely) to stfu at times so we could all hear the answers and translations [sidenote: these events can be so wild and chaotic and overwhelming at times, so literally it was incredible and refreshing to have an emcee who could keep that energy high and focused and occassionally quelled without ruining/harshing the vibes, masterful!]. Also also, shout out to @seinehsh for giving me blessing to use their incredible GramBlack fanart. I printed it out for my first time meeting Gun. I wish I could have gotten it signed but so far none of my Gun events have had the opportunity for a signing. With these events, so much of my fun and moments come from just utterly chance encounters, like me being in the exact right position to get an extra conversation or chat in crossing while the actors are being moved around. Or my position in line letting be right next to Gun (Osaka) or near enough to Gun for some chats (Manila). Now, I do have tickets for the next Beluca show in Taipei and this week they announced a Gun solo show which shouldfit in my schedule but I need to get a visa (actually lemme start the application today lol). So hopefully I will luck my way into more amazing memories with my number 1 and number 2 gmmtv actors. When talking with fans at these events, I was called "the American" and "the Gun fanboy" - really cute. And at Beluca Manila, fans recognized me from MSP Prom night 9 months prior.

4. About Us But Not About Us movie screening

Gameboys is what got me into BLs (and somewhat back on tumblr/twitter) and my love and devotion for Gameboys, The IdeaFirst Company, and specifially Elijah and Kokoy are so damn deep. Gameboys is what inspired my first international trip and my luck and opportunities have gone into overdrive when it comes Gameboys and Elijah and Kokoy. Last year, I unexpectedly got to meet Elijah when he came to a screening for his Blue Room movie (picture on my shirt) and that had so many amazing moments and lead to the absolutely wildest week of my life. Also the Gameboys and Elijah and Kokoy fanclubs have been really good to me and helped me a lot when it comes to getting invited or a heads up about these events. I've been able to meet and have really lovely conversations with Elijah and his parents so when I arrived to the theater for the About Us screening, they saw me over the crowd (I'm tall) then Elijah and his parents had the funniest reactions to my shirt. It was so cool and touching they remembered me and we always talk like we're dear friends and it's just really awesome. Gameboys and Elijah and Kokoy are just my whole ass heart and anytime I get to see Elijah, it's the coming home feeling. My lil pogi best actor. <3

5. KaownahTurbo DP DANCE STUDIO “HELLO & GOODBYE charity showcase 2023”

My other "fan luck pushed to the max" actors are Kaownah and Turbo. These two have been so kind to me and their fanclubs have been amazing and their management staff have been amazing to me. It's just incredible. I've had so many lengthy and meaningful conversations with them, it's astonishing to me. Them remembering me by face, sure, I stand out at these events, but they remembered my name unprompted and during one of the after fanevents, they specifically looked around and asked for me by name because they didn't want me to get left out of a group photo. Like these are my dudes and we always have a good time when we chat. Turbo did also give me a bit of a teaser after this event about The Campfire/My Universe and that was cool getting a lil tea from an actor directly.

Honorable mentions and one more picture because I'm at picture upload limit:

SantaEarth:

I saw them twice this year and the second time I was able to stay focused and have a cool chat with Earth and tell him how much him being out and open meant to me as a queer fan and it was really touching. I also told him I hope his next character is happy and he said "yes, finally I got it" so there will be at least one not traumatized character for him - we'll see how true that ends up being. And Santa, I told him I can't wait to see him as a vampire and he laughed and thanked me.

FirstKhaotung - I saw them in Brazil. Made some great friends. Went with my irl bl bestie and that was a lot of fun having company to witness all these shenanigans energy of a bl fanmeet. I asked First his favorite Beyonce song and he said Single Ladies and I told Khao the voices in my head say he's really cute too and First laughed hard and Khao laughed and got so shy, it was super endearing.

My Beautiful Man s2/eternal - so these "events" were so random and not necessarily fan events. The one opportunity I had for a fan meeting with Yusei, I didn't win. I did structure my spring trip around seeing the movie and the special edit and I did end up winning a raffle to go to a special themed dinnner for the movie at a really cool cafe. And it was my first time in Tokyo proper and I went to a lot of the filming sites for the show.

Starlympics - so I mentioned Starlympic above with Gun and in addition to him, I did get to see what felt like the full might and breadth of the GMMTV bl and gl actor armada. Highlights would be: seeing Neo and Mond and Great and Ohm in person for the first time, watching some questionably athletic people try to be athletic to varying degrees of success, watching some athletic people go super try hard mode (Neo and Fourth), watching what appeared to be some truly uninterested people do their mandatory miminum effort to say they participated (Gun and Mix and KhaoFirst), just observing a lot of the actors chill and hang out with their work friends. And then it was like a 3 hour music medley from basically everyone. Starlympics was definitely a showcase of "GMMTV can field a literal army so who can challenge us." Oh and yeah, watching Tay do his best to not get in Mark's way during the Badminton match, you better believe I wanna tease him about it in Taipei next weekend.

Tagging @bengiyo and @liyazaki because I have sorta fulfilled my earlier hope of posting my bl adventures