#calthoughts

[calrosebunny]

was talking to my friend the other day about kyman (bc wtf else would i talk about /j) and he said!!! he said that he thinks that a good litmus test that distinguishes potential/current kyman lovers from kyman haters is whether they think cartman is just mentally ill and needs help, or if he’s just straight up an irredeemable bad person

which seems so simple and obvious, but like, god it’s so real. because i’ve seen a lot of kyman haters say that he’s evil and gross and deserves to suffer. but i, the God Empress of kyman, never once thought he was a genuinely bad person. he’s definitely fucked in the head and needs help, but i think he absolutely has shown the capacity to do good and just wants to be loved. 😭

i just want my blorbo to have the strength to be loved and to love others openly and without fear 💔💔💔

[calrosebunny]

ok ok ok i know this is probably unserious and a meme lmao, but PLEASE let me be Serious for a hot minute, because topics related to dominance and submission are important to me! /lh :D

(note that i’m saying “dom” and “sub” from here on out because in the queer community being a top or bottom doesn’t necessarily mean being dominant and submissive respectively. this also doesn’t account for switches for simplicity’s sake lol)

for one thing, a lot of folks don’t fully understand how DEEPLY vulnerable and terrifying it can feel being a dom. you’re putting yourself out there knowing your partner could judge you, you have so much responsibility on your shoulders, you could fear hurting them, it could feel foreign to you to have so much control compared to your everyday life, it’s so deeply poetic having someone feel safe enough to just give everything to you, etc. etc. etc.

doms so often are unfairly painted as fantasies, reduced to orbiting around their sub’s sexual needs. but doms have sexual and mental needs of their own too that subs need to meet them halfway on.

the act of relinquishing control and receiving, is just as breathtakingly intimate and mentally challenging as taking control and providing. it’s super normal to struggle with vulnerability when you’re domming or subbing, while still enjoying it and feeling catharsis from it.

what makes someone a dom is if they are someone who overall wants to be sexually in charge of a situation.

and what makes someone a sub is if they are someone who overall doesn’t want to be sexually in charge of a situation.

people who are doms want to provide something to their partner, even if it seems like they’re taking from their sub. whether it’s pain, overwhelming pleasure, stimulation of some kind, and/or just any general experience where the sub can relax and let go. and more!

people who are subs want to receive something from their partner, even if it seems like they’re providing for their dom. whether it’s pain, overwhelming pleasure, stimulation of some kind, and/or just any general experience where the sub can revel in being able to satisfy their dom. and more!

these are also super sweeping and generalized definitions too, because being a dom or sub looks SUPER different from person to person. you could gather like 5 people with nearly the exact same daytime/normal personality, and all 5 of them could have WILDLY different sexual roles.

so, knowing all of this, there’s no way to definitively prove which character is a dom and which is a sub unless they explicitly say so in canon. same goes for real people!

shipping is SO based on projection most of the time, so the roles you assign to your characters are based on your own perception of them as they relate to you and your life experience. there is no such thing as being officially top-coded, or bottom-coded, or dom-coded, or sub-coded, both irl and in shipping lol. which is a GOOD thing!!! it gives people freedom to decide!!!

and like, even if it IS canon that someone is a top or bottom or whatever, but you disagree, then who gaf in a good way lol!! live your truth bestie, shipping is so personal and cathartic and fun!!! and DON’T squabble with people over their perception of a character(s) if you disagree! bitching in private is fine though, live your truth like i said lol

and that’s all lol thanks for readin!!! :P

“who’s the top??” “who’s the bottom?” “blank is such a bottom-“ “so and so is taller so they’re the top-“ listen guys. it’s whichever one has a harder time being vulnerable. that’s the bottom

[calinoswag]

I don’t understand why I’m feeling this way, but I feel like I’ve hit an all time low since I moved. I shouldn’t though; I’ve been blessed with everything I could possibly ask for and a great support system - friends and family. 

But, I just want to go home. I want a break from school. I want a break from these emotions I’ve been wallowing in since I visited home last. 

Who tf am I to think that I was doing great? Because I’m doing the quite the opposite. 

[calrosebunny]

so i’m relatively new to the fandom and like…kyman nation talks about how yentl is pretty much female kyle right? like the most positive parts of his personality rolled into a woman who’s also tall, curly haired, and jewish? lmao???

kyman is so fucking canon man AT LEAST one-sided kyman lol 😭 eric is down HORRENDOUS

[calrosebunny]

the version of eric at the end of “Tsst” is probably who he truly is.

“wakin up in the mornin. thinkin about so many thangs” sad girl meme audio but it’s me ruminating over the version of Eric near the end of “Tsst” before Liane becomes emotionally incestuous with him again and ruins it. because that is who he actually is as a person beneath all the dysfunction. stronger boundaries — he refuses Liane’s insistence that he go to the show with her at first!! — more stable, more confident, etc.

like i still think that he would have the good parts of his personality now — bold, crass, witty, funny, passionate, etc. — but he would be so much better at distress tolerance and emotional regulation. i also think he’d be much quieter, though definitely not completely stoic or silent.

and like…i think that version of him would be even more of a charmer too lmfao. and that he’d be disturbingly good at it. i think he’s such a romantic loverboy beneath it all lol — and there’s evidence for this in the show too!!

[calrosebunny]

see and this ties in just so good with the message of Superman (2025). the most punk rock thing you can do in a world like this is to just be kind and fight for the stranger.

all the discussion i’m seeing is like “ooooh they owned trump” when the A plot of “woke is dead conservatism is on the rise being edgy is no longer subversive and now incredibly normalized” is SO much more interesting and there’s a lot more to talk about there anyway

[calrosebunny]

definitely tweaking a lil but hear me out……..i kinda think that CaseOh’s rise to fame — him being a super attractive and fun chubby guy — contributed at least a LITTLE to kyman surging in popularity in the south park fandom lmfao

like in the same way that people think harambe’s death led to trump getting elected a second time

[calrosebunny]

if matt and trey go down the Superman (2025) “well, now the most punk rock subversive thing you can do nowadays is be kind and fight for the stranger” route with cartman and have him become unironically left wing this season i will crack the fuck up like. PLEASE. cinema especially with kyle — the usual voice of reason — being silent and pissed

if i hear Iggy Pop / Teddybears ��punkrocker” in an episode i will lose my fucking mind in the best way

[calrosebunny]

kyle is so babygirl (throws rocks at him. not to hurt. just to rage bait)

[calrosebunny]

I’m SUCH a big fan of Kyle being pissed at himself for lowkey liking when Cartman bullies him as they older. Allow me to explain.

imo, Sheila’s smothering helicopter parent behavior will cause Kyle to resent her as a teenager and turn him into a super anal “Type A” kind of person. Honestly, there’s even existing canon evidence for both claims in the show too. He’s just like his Mama lol. Opinionated, passionate, grouchy, controlling, headstrong, snarky, Type A, etc.

He’s also like Gerald too though. The sort of awkwardness, the drive to succeed, more snark, the nastier “skankhunt”-y parts of him (HE’S FRIENDS WITH CARTMAN FOR A REASON), the chubby chasing, etc.

Sheila and Gerald’s relationship model is also constantly exciting, loud, and crass. Because of this, I don’t think Kyle would want to have a very peaceful relationship/life overall. We tend to seek out the relationships that were modeled to us as children, whether healthy or toxic.

So, I think Kyle would grow up to enjoy feeling smothered by his parents on some subconscious level, even if he also hates it a little. It’s a familiarity thing. He would also grow to have a lot of control over his life, being so organized and like his high-achieving parents. He would want a stable relationship that makes him feel loved too — since, all things considered, Sheila and Gerald aren’t that unhealthy of a couple in the end especially compared to other parents in the show lol.

But remember that Kyle would also not want to have a slow/uneventful life. He craves being challenged and pushed back on, like how his parents modeled their relationship to him.

So……who does that CONSTANTLY to him.

Eric Cartman!

Kyle will subconsciously seek out his parents’ dynamic (tailored to who he is, as a mix of both of them) as he gets older, and he would be so embarrassed and irritated at himself for finding it in Eric fucking Cartman lol. He pisses Kyle off like nobody else ever has before, but Kyle enjoys it on the downlow. Which makes Kyle even more angry when he catches himself enjoying it LMAO.

But seeking out that excitement isn’t necessarily a bad thing yknow? Like, you can still be ragebaited by your partner but it doesn’t mean it has to be abusive lol! It’s super possible to have that kind of relationship dynamic without it ending in flames. It’s really just who they are as people. Though there’s definitely a toxicity risk there if boundaries are violated. It would require a lot of mutual growth and communication.

You could even argue that he’s been feeling this way in the show and the specials. Kyle could stop hanging around Eric literally any time he wants, but he STILL chooses to put himself in these situations lmfao.

Chat do you see my vision!

[calrosebunny]

style is cool but i’m a kyman girl at heart smh 💚🤎

now and then i enjoy shipping style (especially if it’s poly or something) and i’m sorta a multi shipper, but i’ll always be a kyman shipper at heart tbh… because like. i think my version of kyle would be really intellectually suppressed dating stan. imo kyle needs a lot of banter, excitement, attention, stimulation, and pushback, and idk if my version of stan would do that for him yknow?

stan is of course a great friend though! and like i said i like style sometimes. but realistically i just think my version of kyle requires a lot of attention — and probably doesn’t even realize it himself — and mental stimulation, and stan is just way too laidback and calm for him.

another big thing is that kyle is a BIG achiever, and would do great with someone who also has that high achieving vibe. like, power couple kind of stuff. stan is too go with the flow imo and it would probably create a lot of resentment in their relationship.

additionally, i hc stan as more or less vanilla and sappy (the sweetest fella truly), and imo kyle is definitely neither of those things lol. which i relate to extremely, as someone who had pretty wonderful vanilla ex boyfriends but was never fully satisfied with them.

so, all that being said…a healed version of eric would be witty, super funny, a great conversationalist, exciting, liberal with attention-giving (and receiving), and a high achiever too. like another bit of propaganda (/j) i don’t fall for is eric flunking out of high school or something. i think eric would grow up to be someone driven to succeed and get the fuck out of south park — and away from his smothering mom. i think he’d have a deadly sharp business acumen.

assuming kyle doesn’t get with eric first, i’m a big fan of kyle dating someone else and/or stan and finding himself a little more. and, after all of that, finally ending up with eric in all of his kinky romantic bastard glory lol

[calrosebunny]

eric cartman i KNOW you’d queen out w me and watch amberlynn reid reaction videos if u were real and my age

[calrosebunny]

kyman (and other ships too tbh) is very cool actually because like. they’re literally elementary schoolers, and it’s a very unserious show to begin with, which allows people a LOT of wiggle room to decide how these characters are going to act when they grow up.

like, for example, there’s so many different interpretations of who has more vs less control in their relationship.

Does Eric egg Kyle on because he’s a brat who wants Kyle to take control and put him in his place?

Or, is it because he relishes making Kyle huffy and yanking on Kyle’s pigtails until he gives in?

there’s truly no one correct way to answer this, because there’s so much evidence in both directions. the added layer that Eric is also super mentally ill blurs his intentions even more.

i just really love the diversity of art and fanfics and interpretations of not just Kyle and Eric, but really any other character in the show. it’s a level of freedom that is unmatched to any other fandom i’ve been in.

i just love south park and kyman that’s all lol

[calrosebunny]

this and projecting my therapeutic journey onto one or both of them for kyman lol

me about the south park kids

[calrosebunny]

do artists often wish they wrote fics because as a fic writer i constantly wish i did fanart super good 😭 fic writing takes FOREVER and fanart is so much more fun to look at lmfao

[calrosebunny]

my thoughts on how D/s would manifest in adult kyman and their mental health journeys

once eric gets therapy, or even just starts it and becomes more self-aware, it’ll majorly change their relationship dynamic. that, and once kyle starts his own mental health journey too, because he’s got problems of his own that a lot of ppl tend to overlook imo, because eric is just so loudly problematic.

because of this i personally think eric will be a dom and kyle will be a sub in their sexual dynamic. seems random but stay with me lol.

a lot of what influences my thought process on this is that i don’t view sex/BDSM/kink/etc. as existing to “fix” someone’s major mental health or personality issues. not even in a self-indulgent fandom shipping context. like, for my tastes, it’s way too simple to say that kyle is a dom who has angry sex with eric because eric is a brat who just needs to be put in his place. don’t get me wrong, super valid if you personally like that, since shipping is REALLY personal!

but as someone who is active in the BDSM community, i think BDSM/kink is there to first and foremost just be fun and sexy, but secondly there nurture something primal and cathartic in you with someone you trust extremely. it can be an outlet for things that are appropriate to navigate with a partner and not just a therapist. people ideally are already self-aware, able to communicate effectively, and can self-regulate when they do BDSM/kink together. it’s a big trust act and you need to be pretty regulated as a person to engage with it healthily.

but there’s still parts of us that get locked away or that we want to explore with someone trusted. parts that are appropriate to explore outside of a therapist’s office.

i think a mostly regulated/healed (since we’re all human yknow) eric would be noticeably quieter, gentler, a great listener, soft, and charming/flirty, but also still witty, bold, crass, overdramatic, cunning, and an excellent leader. i think he would feel deep shame and regret at his past behavior, but still has those familiar urges to be controlling, sadistic, and catered to.

i think a mostly regulated/healed kyle would be more bubbly/talkative, less anxious, and less hard on himself, but also still snarky, smart, caring, impatient, goal-oriented, and fiercely protective. i think he would feel frustrated at his parents for being so overbearing and controlling, and craves to be greedy. but he’d also feel shame at how pleasantly familiar it feels to be controlled and overly nurtured/coddled.

so, i think that these mostly healed versions of kyle and eric would want to safely explore the parts of themselves that they push away day to day. i think this would manifest logically as — and most sexily and cathartically — them replicating their old relationship dynamic within a safe non-judgemental space. where kyle can actually enjoy how controlling eric is while fighting back a little, and eric has a safe outlet to be as controlling and/or sadistic as he wants.

and, of course, they might want to flip the narrative sometimes just to keep things interesting lol. but i think that’s the core of their sexual dynamic — kyle is a sub and eric is a dom. kyle would probably be pretty damn bratty, but also revel in the moments where he can be a blank slate. eric would love the control and sweetness that comes with being a provider, but also be very willing to bring a hand down on kyle’s ass lmfao.

and i genuinely think that’s beautiful. BDSM/kink is really important to me, and i love analyzing characters through this lens. it just offers more insight into who they are!