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Macaque will be trapped in The Underworld - A season 5 theory
Now, why would this make sense? Because it would fit perfectly with his characther devolpemt so far.
So, lets look at the evidence for that.
Macaque has through these 4 seasons gone from someone who does everything for his own sake, because of his own personal trauma, to someone who is starting to develop direct friendships with our main cast. (which this person talks more about in depth)
Therefore, it would make sense, if we start going into the most mysterious part of this monkey’s past: His time in the Underworld.
This would make sense for two reasons:
We could get answers on how he ended up in The Underworld in the first place (aka Shadowpeach lore)
We could get answers on WHY all our mystic monkeys are getting accused of breaking the sky, but we would also get some more answers about this guy, The Traitor.
The Shadowpeach part makes sense, therefore I want to go into more details with the whole “Macaque meeting The Traitor” - part of this theory, because they are actual scenes that indicates this in the trailer.
As this person mentioned in a breakdown of the trailer, it looks a lot like here that Macaque is getting sucked into Li Jing's Pagoda (because of that flashing light that looks awfully similar),
and after I made a timeline of the trailer, I realized that Macaque doesn’t really show up in the following scenes after he supposetly gets trapped in the Pagoda.
So, from a story perspective, it looks like Macaque stayed behind to fight off Li Jing, while the others got away in the car, while he himself got captured. This would then lead to Macaque again getting trapped in The Underworld, so they could keep an eye (pun intended) on him.
This would then result in Macaque getting (PTSD) flashbacks to his time in The Underworld, where there is a pretty realistic chance, in that time, he MET the Traitor.
Think about it. The Traitors whole goal is “chaos”, and our mystic monkeys are nothing but CHAOS. (talked more about this here)
There is also the fact that a theory (you can find it here) going around that The Traitor was the one who released Azure Lion from his prison, but erased his memory so he didn’t remember how he even got out:
(Season 4, ep 10)
Wukong: Wait, how are you here?
Azure: What, what kind of question is that?! You know exactly how-
Wukong: No, here and now. I put you in The Underworld myself. How did you get out? How did you get the scroll? I know for sure you didn’t steal it, you couldn’t have.
Azure Lion: I- I don’t know… I was…
Wukong: Azure! Who gave you that scroll? Because whoever it was, they must have known this would happen. WANTED this to happen, and they used you to do it.
Azure: I just wanted to make the world a better place.
There is then a good chance that he did something similar to Macaques memory, where one of thoughs memories could be his final fight with Wukong.
The Traitor could have made it so that Macaque remembers it as Wukong DIRECTLY killing him, but as David Breen mentioned, that’s just how Macaque views it.

Therefore, that’s what is going to be Macaque next character development in this season:
What happened in the past? More specifically what ACTUALLY between him and Wukong. Because we, the fandom, don’t know, but maybe MACAQUE doesn’t even know himself.
We can also, with this new information, figure out another important of his next arc: The theme of understanding.
We also know that a lot of the reasons for Wukong and Macaques fallout, is because they MISUNDERSTOOD a lot what the other actually intended.
We also know that Macaque is starting to realize that too, in the way he reacted when he saw his and Wukongs fight again: He realized HE MISUNDERSTOOD what Wukong had meant.
The seeds have been planted everyone, and we are know going to see what they are turning into. And that is a story of Understanding, growth, and friendship (or whatever the hell their realtionship is at this point).
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I started this thought on Twitter and now I'm going to continue here.


It's very likely that my theory is wrong, but the more I think about it, the more sense it makes.
All good! This probably won't make sense at first, but let's keep an open mind for my first theory that came from scratch since I didn't see anyone talking about it.
The first thing I will point out is Wukong's glowing eyes in the scene of his battle against Macaque, I know many will say that he is only using golden vision, but his expression is so apathetic! So, the guy is LITERALLY breaking the face of the most important living being in his life, he should at least be looking furious like Macaque himself is in the scene!

Returning to the main part of the exposition, which does not fit with the expressions he normally makes when he is fighting seriously (example in season 3 in the fight against lbd, and in season 4 in the fight against Azure)



Wukong is expressive in these moments of struggle, he has a tendency to show his teeth and leave his eyebrows furrowed.
This is an expression he doesn't get when he's under lbd's control.


And in the scene we have of his fight against Macaque.


This theory of mine became even stronger when I remembered David Breen's tweet (one of the guys who participated in the production of lmk's script) talking about we only saw Macaque's point of view, but not the entire story (I lost the tweet and couldn't find it, so if you don't consider that part I'll understand, If I find it, I will respond)
#lego monkie kid#lego monkie king#lego monkey kid fanart#lmk fandom#lmk macaque#monkie kid macaque#lmk season 4#lmk season 3 spoilers#lmk sun wukong#lmk shadowpeach#shadowpeach art#lmk theory#lmk six eared macaque#lmk wukong#lmk lady bone demon#lmk lbd#lmk swk#lmk
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Star Wars in Star Trek
Not as long ago or far away as you might think

That's the Millennium Falcon helping out against the Borg in Star Trek: First Contact

R2D2 among the debris and bodies over Vulcan in Star Trek (2009)

They must have rescued him and made him a crewmember, because here's R2 getting sucked into space when engineering is hit in Star Trek Into Darkness (CG for Star Trek movies was usually done by Industrial Light and Magic, who also did Star Wars, and director JJ Abrams would go on to direct 2 Star Wars movies)


I can't make it out, but Memory Alpha says these two graphics (from TNG "Measure of a Man" and DS9 "A Man Alone") list Alderaan as a planet in the Trek universe


One of these is a Breen from Deep Space Nine. The other is Princess Leia in disguise. I'm not 100% sure which is which I just know Star Wars did it first and someone on DS9 liked the look
Among a half dozen other unauthorised crossovers, Barbara Hambly's novel Ishmael has a "scruffy looking spice smuggler" get into a scuffle on page 13
In David Mack's Vanguard: Precipice, there's a teardrop-shaped ship with a pod on one side described on page 74
I'm also pretty sure a Star Wars planet or two was snuck into the 1980 Star Trek Maps
Did I miss any?
#star trek#star wars#millenium falcon#r2d2#star trek aos#star trek ds9#ds9#the next generation#tng#easter eggs
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doodling and trying to put together some Actual Lore for my Star Trek cruise ship OCs (Ferengi Girlboss Nelba, Bimbo Vulcan T'Shirt, Romulan Pop Star Reval, Klingon Soap Opera Starlet/Pro Wrestler K'Thot, Angsty Andorian Dabo Girl Thalla, Bored Cardassian Reclaimed Borg 12 of 12)
and by that I mean I am mostly thinking about Reval the Romulan pop star becoming a Federation sensation like peak Lady Gaga and that includes all the backlash too. She's considered the peak of Romulan beauty, tall, broad-shouldered, narrow-hipped and small-chested with sharp, angular features, but has long been ostracised from Romulan society for being Too Lewd and Too Radical. The pose in the first pic is suggestive by human standards but by Romulan standards it's more confrontationally sexual than like Nicki Minaj's Anaconda cover lol. However the post-Dominion alliance with The Federation allowed her to find her niche & her latest album went 2x Latinum on 20 planets. pm the only time homeworlders have approved of her is when she managed to hold an event of Ferenginar (a traditionally patriarchal, misogynistic society) dressed in traditional Romulan (not canon but imo an implicitly matriarchal society) garb + makeup to "empower" Ferengi women. I love her sooo much she's like what if a femboy Lady Gaga was a lesbian girltwink David Bowie. but it was the 80s american hair metal scene. and also if she was from the USSR during the Cold War. and wore latex.
Also like, why would a Vulcan (even a stupid one) be on a Ferengi pleasure cruiser? Well simply Nelba (the cunning fee-male Ferengi captain) saw her in a bikini on Risa with her massive jugs and oblivious nature and saw all the potential customers flocking around her.
Nelba: well hello there ms vulcan... u know a ticket to board my pleasure cruiser is 2 bars of gold-pressed latinum... but for you id be willing to do a special one-off price of 1 bar... T'Shirt: your generosity is noted. however i find it illogical to assume a vulcan has money. Nelba: u make a fine point ms vulcan… hows abt this instead. i give u free board AND an opportunity to make profit… all u have to do is enjoy urself… as long as u do it where everyone can see u… T'Shirt: hm. i will leave tomorrow evening. provide a contract before then.
the only reason why T'Shirt hasn't gotten like trafficked or anything is because her family is quite powerful and well-known on Vulcan... and her sister had her fitted with a biotracker bc of how often she would get lost and end up playing dom-jot with some Breen or some shit. some may consider the terms of her "employment" under Nelba to be trafficking-adjacent as she is essentially an attraction but she truly is just chilling (Sexily). Vulcans being STRONK keeps her safe but it's in Nelba's best financial interests to keep her safe too so she's Fine lol. like there's lots of leering and suggestiveness going on yeah but most creeps lose interest when they realise they can't embarrass her bc 1) too dumb to realise they're trying to cause her shame 2) she's a Vulcan she doesn't feel shame anyway 3) it is illogical to feel ashamed of Being Hot. she's not a hooker (those are aboard, she's just not one) but she is dtf if you don't turn her off. she likes bars but doesn't drink. she provides oo-mox whenever Nelba wants and often just reflexively to Ferengi guests. suffice to say Nelba made her money back and then some lol
fwiw Nelba's cruise ship is largely geared towards fee-males but men are allowed on board, the majority of them just happen to be drag queens, pet twinks of lesbian couples or 24/7 total power exchange type submissives LOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL it's just that she's a Ferengi Fee-Male Making Profit And Wearing Clothes so basically a superradical spacefeminist and also a lesbian lol so most events, activities and shops aboard are geared towards women with males being an afterthought in a total reverse of Ferengi culture
examples being: Reval the Romulan pop star (aggressively punkishly sexy androgynous openly lesbian, heavily matriarchal but that's just Romulan nature not affected like Nelba's feminism) K'Thot who is literally a soap opera star. like what if on Dynasty Krystle and Alexis shoot fought. what if WWE was real but still also scripted. you get it. maybe you don't but I do Thalla is just a dabo girl but she's of the sort that is going to appeal more to lesbians (less smiley chirpy Customer Service Voice more Sexily Annoyed At You For Even Asking) and Dozen is just a curiosity but Nelba wasn't going to turn down a ?reclaimed? Borg (Dozen is reclaimed in the sense that she has been separated successfully from the hivemind but Cardassians saw no need in removing her implants the way Federation surgeons would so she still looks entirely Borg. especially as she was grey to start lol)
more to come. invite your OCs to the cruise idk
#Star Trek#trekposting#that is going to be my new Star Trek shitpost tag. ummm I will go back and tag previous ones later. look at my aliens
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WEEK 14 - Wrap Up
THE PLAYOFFS!!!!!
If you watch ALONE on the History Channel /Netflix- then you know. No need for a video...only 6 people remain. All I am here to do tonight - through this wrap up - is tell you who those 6 people are and why they are in the playoffs. How they won or who lost this week...doesn't matter. All that matters is that these 6 move on and play next week.
Let's start with the divison that had a clear cut #1 winner... ODD DIVISION.
BEBO NORMAN - Long Left Ballers (BYE WEEK)
DAVID BREEN - Malik My Balls
GABE SCOTT - Mr Awesome (WILD CARD WINNER)
Bebo has had a hell of a year! He did lose this week to Stu Jones, but it was basically a week that had no consequences for him either way. Bebo ends up 12-2 and will be off next week as I take on Gabe Scott. Gabe is our wild card winner putting up the most points from the remaining 4 players in the division. He just happened to be up against Tree Huggers this week who were both in the hunt. Gabe just had a 35 point lead which did help him out quite a bit. I love this outcome. It's great to see a guy that went 6-8 makes the playoffs! Congrats Gabe! See you next week!
Who do we say goodbye to from the Odd Divison?: Krippayne, Stu and Kyle who ended up having a great final week taking home high point!
EVEN DIVISION
CLIFF YOUNG - Lanakila (BYE WEEK)
ROB HOWARD - Howard
DANA CAPPILLINO - Funk Guy (WILD CARD WINNER)
It was a battle for the 1st place in the Even Division. Cliff and Rob both tied record wise and just 8 points apart when the week started. Rob already took care of his win - taking down the Moose who only put up 54 points in a very important week...(sad performance). So, Cliff had to win and score more than 107.64 points to grab the bye week. He got the win and crazy as this is - he scored exactly 107.64 points - so both Howard and Lanakila have 9-6 records and both have total yearly points of 1505.68. So, I had to go back to last weeks game and see who outscored who...and Cliff outscored Howard 124.70 to 124.16...so Cliff gets the bye. (Cliff also outscored Rob this week). WOW...crazy ending for that divison. On to the wild card slot. Dana, who was neck and neck with Mitch for the wild card slot - had a good week and put up over 100 points and secured his position in the playoffs. Congrats Dana - way to stick with it and focusing on the points not the wins!
Who do we say goodbye to? Mitch, Brett & Gullahorn
Fun regular season guys! Thanks for playing!
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Sun Wukong Knew About MK the Whole Time: A Theory
I am currently hyped up on leftovers and iced coffee, so let's do this!
I've talked about this before, here and here, but I think it's finally time I wrote an official post. You can go and read those posts if you want to (I definitely hit the nail on the head with some of this stuff), but I will be compiling a lot of what I said on those posts here!
So. Let's get the Mr. Elephant out of the room first: The David Breen Tweets. (thread here).
I see this tweet mentioned a lot whenever I bring up SWK knowing about MK, and honestly, this is a far cry from the "it's been confirmed that SWK didn't know" definite answer everyone's been implying.
So let's break it down!
#1: "Monkey King ain't the father"/"Monkey King isn't his dad." Well of course! Being born from a stone means you don't have any parents. I see it like this: Wukong isn't MK's dad, but he's also not NOT MK's dad, it's a secret third thing (creator and creation). Or, perhaps Wukong didn't help create MK at all, but he at the very least was involved in the circumstances that lead to MK being created/being born from the stone. (Aka eldritch abomination MK theory. My Beloved. Okay sorry.)
#2: "Monkey King was ripping his way through memories looking for MK, but kept coming back to the stone. He doesn't know why." So, while Wukong was ripping through memories, he didn't know why the scroll kept spitting him out by the stone. This is not a confirmation that Wukong didn't know about MK and his origins. It also begs the question: how did Wukong know MK was in the scroll to begin with? There's also some speculation to be had about why Wukong was so desperate to find MK to begin with:
MK: "Monkey King did this?" Macaque: "It looks like he's been tearing his way through his past—trying to find his way to.." MK: "Me."
(4x11 A Lifetime of Mistakes)
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What was he so afraid of MK finding? Or, what was he afraid the scroll would force MK to experience? I think these are questions worth asking.
#3: "Wukong's trying real hard to leave the 'not being open with MK' days behind after s3. Problem is he's got lifetimes of info to catch them up on." Well, this one is a DOOZIE. One: we already know MK doesn't know everything about Wukong and his choices because he doesn't know Wukong killed Macaque (thank you 4x11). Two: "trying real hard" and "successfully doing" are very different things. And three: YOU DON'T JUST DROP INFO LIKE "Hey, did you know you're a Monkey Demon?" ON TOP OF SOMEONE RANDOMLY. Especially not MK. You have to prepare them for it.
Wukong is trying to do better and be better for everyone around him, but that still takes work. That still isn't easy. He's still going to make mistakes, which means he's not going to always go about being open with MK in the best way.
Sun Wukong: “Point is, mistakes happen, but so long as you leave the world in better shape than you found it, then it’s all good. Right?”
(4x01 Familiar Tales)
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This scene—to me—feels like Wukong is trying prepare MK for his eventual "Hey did you know you're a Monkey Demon?" conversation he wants (and needs) to have down the line. Yes, SWK is trying to be more open with MK, but he's also just not going to be given that chance before the truth comes out.
MK: "Yeah right, if Monkey King really was my dad don't you think he would have said something by now?" Mei: "Yeah...because he's normally SOOOOO forth coming with information." MK: "Well uh, whatever—when we find Monkey King's stone, then we'll just ask him!"
(4x05 Court of the Yellow Robbed Demon)
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Notice how they never asked Monkey King that question? From a writing standpoint, why bring this up at all if it wasn't to imply that (even if Monkey King isn't MK's dad) he wasn't involved with MK's creation in some way?
ANYWAYS.
NOW THAT THE BREEN TWEET THAT HAS RUINED MY LIFE IS OUT OF THE WAY, let's get into the evidence given to us throughout the entirety of the show. Starting with this:
This isn't a scene that takes place during the "A Hero is Born" special, as I'm sure plenty of people have noticed before now. Of course, this could have just been Monkey King "scouting out a successor", but with everything we know now doesn't that...feel kinda weird?
We were told at the beginning of the show that Monkey King gave MK his powers, but now we know that's not true. MK has had his own powers this whole time—and that's something Wukong, at the very least, knew:
Sun Wukong: "Listen kid: You fought demons, and you didn't die, and you made it here! Not just anyone can lift my staff, but you did." (1x00 A Hero is Born)
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MK: "This whole time, I thought my powers came from the staff! Sun Wukong: "The staff's just a big 'ol stick bud! It takes someone special to lift it." (3x03 Smartie Kid)
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There's also 1x09 Macaque, which I have mentioned before:
Macaque: "Ohohoh no, can't you hold the magic staff anymore? Well, you know what that means—there really isn't anything special about you. You're just a kid with a heavy stick."
This scene is then followed by MK lifting the staff, which only happens because Wukong encourages him.
MK: "Ugh, I can't! I'm not strong enough." Sun Wukong: "Kid! We're definitely going to have words later, but it's time for the Hero Stuff!"
(1x09 Macaque)
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Ultimately, Wukong knows MK can lift the staff again even after Macaque supposedly stole all of MK's powers. He knows MK can beat DBK (more on that later). He does something similar to all this in 3x14, being the one to let MK face the Lady Bone Demon, powered by the Samadhi fire, alone (even after Pigsy tries to stop MK):
Wukong want's to protect MK. That's why he went to face the Lady Bone Demon alone in the first place—but here, he let's MK stop the end of the world all by himself. Why would he let his beloved student face not only LBD, but a reality ending flame alone?
Because he knows how much power MK has. Because he knows MK is capable of doing it.
This all brings me to my main point: If before now we were supposed to believe that Monkey King gave MK his powers, and he so clearly didn't, how would Wukong not know he didn't give MK powers. And because he clearly knew he didn't give MK any powers, why would he not question where this kid's insane level of power came from? He had to have "chosen" MK to be his successor for a reason right?
ESPECIALLY because Wukong never planned on being a mentor in the first place:
Sun Wukong: "I know I can never make it up to you. Honestly, I- I never thought I'd live as long as I have let alone be someone's mentor—turns out I'm not very good at it. I guess what I'm trying to say is...I'm sorry MK. For all of it."
(3x14 Destiny Fulfilled)
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This was also alluded to in 3x05 Amnesia Rules:
Pigsy: "Of COURSE you don't remember the kid—one day you are going to grow up to be a terrible mentor!" Sun Wukong: "Ha! Zhu Bajie, can you imagine me teaching someone? HA!"
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So, Wukong clearly didn't ever want to become a mentor, and this directly contradicts what Wukong says to MK in "A Hero is Born":
Sun Wukong: "You're perfect!" MK: "Perfect for what?" Sun Wukong: "To be...my successor!"
Honestly, think about it: has Wukong ever once actually needed a successor? When given the opportunity, he goes off and tries to handle things on his own anyways (Leaving in s2, wanting to go and reforge the Samadhi Fire on his own, going to stop LBD alone). It's the classic "we're being told one thing and shown another" trick.
Sun Wukong: "No no no- in case you forgot I'M retired, you're the one supposed to be taking care of the bad guys." (1x01 Bad Weather)
Even in 2x01 he's lying:
Sun Wukong: "Aw, come on bud! I promised myself that when I found a successor I'd go see some friends, take a tour of my old stomping grounds, just cut loose you know?" (2x01 Sleep bug)
It's proven in the next episode, and by the fact that all of his friends are dead/gone, that literally nothing he said here is true.
And, it's also note worthy to point out, that by this point Wukong had already disappeared for hundreds of years. Why step in again at all? Why put the effort into getting a successor you definitely were never prepared to have?
MK: "*sigh* You think Monkey King ever felt like this? Maybe that's why he stayed up on this mountain, just having a good time with you guys. You know cause- cause he knew he'd be out of the way where he couldn't hurt anyone he cared about." Macaque: "Or, he was doing his usual Wukong thing and being a lazy peach eating idiot. Ignoring all the worlds problems.
(4x09 Roast of the Monkie Kids)
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So, I don't know about you, but I'm going to trust Macaque's insight on this. I'm not sure Wukong ever planned on coming back. Sealing DBK, he effectively cut off one of his last ties to the world (please go read wlw-wukong's thoughts, they are delightful), and he had already left the world alone for a long time. Why did he feel the need to train a successor now?
The simple answer is this: because he knew he needed to train MK and teach him to control his powers, and DBK's return was the perfect way to do it.
NOW. THE S4 MK VISIONS.
So, the visions MK see's all through out s4 (4x03, 4x04, 4x05, 4x06) are of Wukong ripping through the scroll and going to the stone—David Breen confirmed that himself in the above tweets.
Here's a list of what we see:
(4x03 The Great Tang Man)
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(4x04 Pig Napped)
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(4x05 Court of the Yellow Robbed Demon)
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These are what I would say are the visions of Sun Wukong trying to find MK in the scroll. Yet, they are distinctly different from what Subodhi presses MK to remember ("Tell me of your childhood, your parents." "You do not remember?" "And what else?"):
(4x06 Show Me the Monster)
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Look at that difference!
Every vision MK has includes the same scenes, except this one. That's why I think it's a memory; that and the way it's framed, with MK closing his eyes in focus. The other visions from 4x03, 4x04, and 4x05 all are unprompted, being forced upon MK. Why make this last "vision" so different from the others? Why show our mystery lady making the stone monkey? That would be because it's a memory—be it MK's, something from the scroll, or a mix of both.
There's also the matter of like, why Wukong going to the stone would trigger any sort of vision in MK to begin with. Overall, it just seems like there something more to those visions.
This would be how I imagine the general timeline playing out:
MK is created (through help of Sun Wukong), a beautiful baby boy pops out of the stone, and Sun Wukong "loses" that beautiful boy (if Wukong knew he was born to begin with) with MK finding his way to Pigsy's.
Then it's later Sun Wukong finds MK again, coming up with a plan to make MK his "successor" (still leaving MK with Pigsy, which I think was the right call lol). As Wukong says in 4x01, "You make ONE mistake, and no one ever let's you live it down! Looks like the ghosts of my past have finally caught up with me." That's what I think this parallel in particular is really trying to show off—in some way, MK is part of his past mistakes, just like Macaque is.
AND SO. I WILL CLOSE OFF THIS THEORY POST WITH EVERYTHING WE LEARNED IN THE SPECIAL.
Sun Wukong: "Heh, nothing gets under his skin more than a monkey. Leave Azure to MK and me."
(4x12 The Plan Man)
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Sun Wukong: "Kinda embarrassing for the Jade Emperor to have two little cheeky monkeys running circles around him the first day on the job." MK: "Well, one monkey and one unconfirmed, but *laughs* yeah! I'd be embarrassed for sure!"
(4x13 Rip and Tear)
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Wukong sounds suspiciously confident that MK is a monkey.
Not even MK is sure what he is (which he's probably just in denial, but also "Until I know what I am, what my destiny is?" from 4x08 anyone?), but Sun Wukong is extremely certain about what MK is.
Sun Wukong: "We got this bud. Would have liked to give you some new training with your monkey form, but-" MK: "Oh yeah yeah yeah- uh um- about that— um. I- I was thinking, I've never really needed a scary new monkey form before, so, I just thought maybe I'd use it next time." Sun Wukong: "Next time? Kid, there might not be a next time! This is the time."
MK: "It's be fine! Mei and I have got this awesome new armor and everything! You know, when we look this good? Ain't nothing gonna beat us." Sun Wukong: "Kid. New armor isn't going to cut it! We have to hit Azure with everything we've got! You can't just ignore this whole part of your power because it scares you!"
(4x12 The Plan Man)
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If the writers were trying to highlight the fact that Wukong didn't know, this scene would have gone very differently. Instead of "You can't just ignore this whole part of your power because it scares you!" I think it would have been more along the lines of "I know this is new for all of us, but you've got to accept this part of your power!".
Even this exchange at the end of the special raises some alarm bells for me:
Pigsy: "Heh, don't bother. I've been telling him that for years but he LITERALLY never listens." Sun Wukong: "Yep! That's how we roll."
(4x14 Better Than We Found It)
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That's how "we" roll? As in him and MK, as two monkeys? Again, Wukong is surprisingly chill and okay with this new form for someone whose first interaction with it was supposedly this:
MK, writhing on the ground in pain, completely destroying the world around him, and unable to control his powers.
Sun Wukong: "Yeah! Go MK, go! Just try not to totally wreck up my stuff would ya-"
(4x13 Rip and Tear)
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Overall, it gives me the impression that Wukong already knew what MK was before 4x07. This new form didn't scare him because he always knew that's what MK was. MK, to Wukong, is MK! And MK has always been a Monkey Demon. He has unshakeable faith in his protege, and even while MK is absolutely tearing up the world around flower fruit mountain he can't help but cheer for him.
After all, Wukong knows MK is the only one who could defeat Azure:
MK: "Ne Zha's right—while Azure has the Jade Emperor's power and the scroll, there's NO way we could beat him head on!" Sun Wukong: "I mean, some of us could beat him! *ahem* One of us, specifically-" MK: "Nope! None of us at all."
(4x12 The Plan Man)
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"But Imp!" I hear you say, "Wukong was talking about himself here!". To which I would reply, that's not true! This scene is right after Wukong has already said he only almost beat the Jade Emperor:
Sun Wukong: "But don't worry—I almost beat the Jade Emperor single handed once! Between both of us, Azure doesn't stand a chance." (4x12 The Plan Man)
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Between this and Wukong's pre-fight convo with MK ("We have to hit Azure with everything we've got!"), he's clearly banking on MK using the full extent of his powers to win this fight. Wukong isn't banking on his own—if he were, he would never have left MK to go and collect the scroll pieces during their fight with Azure.
Conclusion
Sun Wukong knew MK was a monkey the whole time, lol—and fate has plans for MK. Great plans, or foul? Time will tell.
And Wukong has done his best to ensure that those plans are great.
#I am very open for having a discussion about this!#Prove me wrong!#But it is getting disheartening to see so many people just go ''Naw they confirmed he didn't know lol'' when they very much didn't.#Anyways!#This took a while to write asdfadsf#enjoy!#lmk theory#lego monkie kid#lmk#lmk MK#lmk SWK#lmk Sun Wukong
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You asked for it: live thoughts from Ria and @creatrixanimi watching RvB Zero.
So, after having a movie night the day before (third movie night in a week, actually, we are very productive) watching Neil Breen movies and “Cool Cat”, it was now time to touch upon Zero. Sadly, Zero does not belong in the “so bad it’s good” category, but alas, Ria had to spoil Haley’s innocence.
This is not a proper edited review, but just snippets of our live reaction while watching the thing together. We are not drunk, but this continued way past midnight for Ria, so maybe her brain isn’t fully functioning. Also, Ria is a potty mouth because cursing is easy when it’s not your native language. Enjoy.
Episode 1:
Ria: I can’t figure out if they were trying to do a Grif and Simmons parallel with those two random guards talking outside, the ones with the Wash retconning.
Haley: Their armor doesn’t cover their noses.
Ria: That’s gotta be cold. Frostbitten noses.
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Haley: There is no exposition. Like, it feels like the writers had their idea and know what is going on, but we don’t so it just feels weird and random. It feels like a Marvel movie.
Ria: Is that a compliment? I haven’t watched Marvel.
Haley: Not a good one.
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Ria: This episode isn’t that bad in itself. But it’s just there to establish that the OG characters can’t beat this new villain, but the new guys can, and, urgh.
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Episode 2:
[The shot focuses on One’s behind.]
Ria’s dirty mind: Ass.
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Ria: STOP CALLING HIM DAVID.
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Ria: I like this character, but I don’t remember his name.
Haley: Raymond.
Ria: This is why we need a name system like with the Freelancers and states. Should’ve just been numbers all the way through. Except Eleven, you fucking whore.
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Haley at the sight of Raymond’s phone: It’s so big.
Ria: It’s the future. I can believe it.
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Ria: Here’s the thing driving me crazy. Axel is a normal name in Denmark. But like, only old people use it. I know two Axels and they are both older than eighty. So that’s when I think of when I see Axel.
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[After the whole training montage where we are introduced to the characters, we are still confused.]
Ria: I can’t remember their names.
Haley: Well, they didn’t show all of them. They didn’t show One.
Ria: They did!
Haley: They did?
Ria: Wow. So we got all that tell and no show, and we are still confused.
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Haley: When it comes to genre, it’s actually not that bad with the narrated tell and don’t show. If it wanted to be a cheesy/bad action movie, that’s a trope that’s used relatively frequently in the genre. It’s a bad action movie. But it’s not RvB. It’s kinda like a particularly bad Marvel movie.
Ria: You’re really not selling me on the Marvel movies tonight.
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Ria: I know I’m just a sucker for Joe, but I keep thinking of s15. Like, here they just use the files as a cheap way to introduce the characters. But like, in s15, Dylan just read out loud Grif’s file, and it was not to introduce him, but like, to show the complexity of the characters and go against the files? I don’t know, it just seems way cooler now.
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[After the whole “what’s East’s deal” scene, we were so confused. Literally paused for five minutes trying to figure who was whose dad and why and what. How many daughters did Axel have? And where are they? We were just lost. Future Haley: Him waxing poetic about his daughters while watching the two girls in his team train confused me like I thought he was talking about East and One and couldn’t count sdfghjk. Future Ria: I’d even watched the show before and I was still confused.]
Ria: I can’t figure out if they’re too fast or if we’re just stupid.
Haley: It’s like I’m trying to remember the details but it all slips through my fingers.
Ria: The whole Zero experience is to feel too old for this shit.
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Ria: STOP FUCKING CALLING HIM DAVID
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One: This is how it’s done, grandma.
Ria: Fuck you.
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Episode 3:
Haley: People would like it if they love dumb action shows. It works as a mindless action show.
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Haley: So this is a temple?
Ria: I hate the worldbuilding. Is this the same planet as before? Like, Chorus had temples, but it also had lore about it. Is this the same sort of temples?
Haley: So shouldn’t this temple have its own key? Why do they need to include Tucker? It makes no sense for the temple to require a totally different sword from a different planet.
Ria: So they could beat him up ‘cause OG characters are weak now.
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Haley: I don’t like the training scenes. They are so long and boring.
Ria: This is like the third episode where they are training. Holy shit.
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Haley: It’s not that bad. But if you like Red vs. Blue, it’s not something for you. They aren’t really comparable.
Ria: I just don’t understand what they wanted to continue for Red vs. Blue. Like, it’s not the worldbuilding or the plot or the characters. I just don’t get it.
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Haley: Raymond is the best character.
Ria: I like Raymond.
Haley: He’s RvB. He should be the main character.
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Ria: Did East just use the “I’m not like the other (girls)” line?
Haley: I don’t like her. She’s a brat. Why did Carolina have to apologize? They were just training, this is something she’s gonna have to deal with on a daily basis lmao.
Ria: Didn’t Carolina have a cast on her arm? It’s gone now. I can’t keep up with the timeline. So, she’s healed, but how long was Wash gone? They are so vague about everything. Worldbuilding, timeline, motivations.
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Ria: …Did Carolina just say she’d suit up? While wearing a full armor suit?
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[And this is where the cursed part takes place. To talk, we’d often pause the thing. Here, I randomly paused during the introduction for Starlight Laboratories. There’s a desk in the shot. With a fucking marker on it.]
Haley: That’s a Crayola marker. That’s a Crayola marker on the table.
Ria: Glad we can appreciate the details by pausing.
[Haley then missed the entire Axel flashback scene because she was too busy looking up pictures of Crayola markers. When this is revealed, Ria lost it for like, three minutes]
Haley: I had that marker as a kid.
Ria: So 4/5 stars for the marker?
Haley: They were supposed to smell like blueberries or something but they just smelled like chemicals.
Ria: This is the most excited we’ve been about Zero so far.
[Future Haley: I was literally laugh-crying you dont understand. This was the best part of the show.]
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Episode 4:
Ria: They all have super powers. It’s so weird.
Haley: I keep thinking they are gonna explain stuff. But they don’t. So I’m just confused.
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[Haley has now brought forth all the markers in her room to find a Crayola one. She drops them all on the floor. Ria loses it again.] [Future Haley update: I found a yellow one it smells like lemons :)]
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Ria: They are all glowing and have super powers. It’s weird. Like, I know we had super powered armor before but that was all connected to AIs. I don’t get how all of this works. They don’t have AIs.
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[We both agree that we enjoy Raymond and Tiny. Bless them.]
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Ria: It’s weird. The dialogue is so oblivious, it comments on its own mistakes. Like, Carolina just acknowledged Wash has had a computer in his head before. But they don’t acknowledge the whole canonical lore about his trauma regarding computers in his head and why he’d hate this. Same with the name David. They just noticed that it’s his first name and that’s how they’d show how close Carolina is with him, but they didn’t acknowledge the canon lore that Wash dislikes people using his first name.
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Episode 5:
Haley: Why didn’t they use Locus’ sword instead. It’d make more sense. He’s the one travelling around planets and wanting to help people??
Ria: What’s the worldbuilding here? Is Tucker on the same planet? Is this Earth? Chorus?
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Haley: Gotta love it when they make Tucker hit on teenagers.
Ria: Oh god why did they make East 18.
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Haley: They should have done something with the Warthog song, even if that’s a Red Team thing.
Ria: I miss Red Team.
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Ria: Wait, so if these three swords are connected, why can the two first ones move by themselves and they have like super powers connected to them? When Tucker’s sword is just boring? They didn’t even make a joke about how the two new swords are longer than Tucker’s.
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Tucker: I’m fine, I have my sword.
Ria: That line is so tragic in hindsight.
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One: It’s Tucker. He is dead.
Carolina: Oh my god.
Haley: *laughs her ass off*
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Haley: I don’t understand why anyone is doing anything.
Ria: Your brain is still thinking about that fucking marker.
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Episode 6:
Ria: The dialogue did it again! Wash just said “amazing medical tech”. Like, he points out a plot hole. Because that amazing tech can heal brain injuries and bring people back from death, but East had to be tortured for years to heal her vague illness? Like, why couldn’t their amazing tech fix that.
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[While watching the design of the temple.]
Ria: It looks like those are just plates glued to the wall. Dinner is served.
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Haley: There is no logical reason why they brought in Tucker. His sword isn’t even from this planet.
Ria: To lure in fans.
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Haley in a very sad voice: The speech wasn’t good.
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Episode 7:
Ria: Is all of this happening on the same planet? They keep driving. The worldbuilding is so weird. At least earlier RvB made a joke about how they could just drive everywhere. This is like a big desert, a training base, laboratory, city and temples and Tucker’s workplace, and I don’t know if it’s even on the same planet.
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Ria: Diesel is just standing there waiting while they outfit Carolina.
Haley: It’s like a video game.
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Ria: The temple’s walls are filled with runes.
Haley: It feels like a free/bought asset. It doesn’t even look like the temples on Chorus. It looks like something in WoW or something like that.
Ria: It’s driving me mad. I can read runes! Imagine a big boss fight and the freaking alphabet is plastered on the walls. That’s what I’m looking at.
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Haley: Zero is such a boring villain. It’s not interesting when we don’t know what this “power” actually is or what he wants to do with it.
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Ria: That’s the helmet Spencer wore.
Haley: Oh god I forgot about him.
Ria: So did the writers.
Haley: Spencer should have been the real villain.
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Haley: *sees the random model of the temple guardian alien* I miss Santa.
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Episode 8:
Ria: The aliens are just dancing in the background while Carolina is fighting Diesel.
Haley laughing: Oh my god, they are. They are just jumping up and down.
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Ria: So, the villain just turned overpowered, and the solution is that Raymond just flicks a switch we haven’t heard about and now the heroes are overpowered too?
Haley: It just makes them shiny. And like... they don’t even use the “power”, they don’t fight him with their powers which only some of them have, they just shoot their ordinary guns at him while doing unnecessary flips.
Ria: I just remembered Church’s dick switch. That had more dramatic buildup.
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Axel: You’re too cocky for that.
Ria’s dirty brain: Cock.
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Post Zero thoughts:
[Ria returns from bathroom break and Haley is proudly showing off her marker over video cam.]
Haley: There was too much going on so I just focused on the marker.
Ria: So how many stars would you give it?
Haley: It’s really bad.
Ria: How many stars for marker representation?
Haley: Three out of five. It was only there for a second.
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Haley: In the beginning, it wasn’t that bad. It was dumb, but also fun and sorta cool. But then it just went on for too long and they didn’t explain anything properly and it stopped being fun really fast. But I can see why some people might enjoy it. Like, you’d love it for its action but only that. Not for plot and/or the character writing.
Ria: I think my biggest problem is the worldbuilding. They kept everything so vague because they didn’t want to connect, not really. Like, where is this happening? When? Why are Carolina and Wash there? Like, the motivations for all the characters were so vague as well.
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Haley: Raymond was great. He had personality and some good lines. And he felt like RvB. Like, he used his brain and actually got shit done, but he also wasn’t over-powered. He followed a similar character arc to what the Reds and Blues had. He sucks at fighting but he’s efficient and smart in a practical way with his rocket launcher. He does the most and he doesn’t stop being a goofball! Even Zero was focused on stopping him the most at the end. And he didn’t need to do any stupid flips.
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Haley: The borrowed assets annoyed me. It ended up looking stupid, like, the temple felt more like fantasy than science fiction. And nothing like Chorus. And normally, RvB doesn’t have to worry about being cohesive because all of the designs are from Halo so it all makes sense and it’s connected. But this is just so random it feels distracting, I feel like this is a big reason people felt that Zero was so jarring… but on a subconscious level. It just felt off and there was no cohesive design. Also everything looked like it was made for video games and not modified at all for the show.
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Haley: Honestly I was optimistic at first but then I got confused really fast and it kept getting worse because it was so fast. They didn’t explain stuff properly or at all. Like, they made it too big. Should have been smaller. I thought going with the “Starlight Labs is evil and needs to go down” plot would have been A LOT better and would have tied together multiple aspects of the story that the temple plot didn’t.
Ria: If I had the power which I don’t, I dunno, but I if the main point was to introduce new characters, I’d keep them tied to lore and worldbuilding we already know. So we don’t get so confused and it doesn’t feel so disconnected. Like, I’m still in love with the idea that it should have been Carolina on Chorus dealing with these soldiers who have been fighting all their lives and now don’t have to do that anymore. But maybe Chorus still needing an army, and that’s why she is training it. I don’t know, but like, familiar, build on what we know. And then they wouldn’t be superpowered, but like, just competent-ish but normal soldiers and we’d get to know them better, but I just think Zero just wanted them to be these super cool soldiers even better than Carolina so they could pull off all the fight scenes. ‘Cause it’s all Zero has going for it. The fight scenes. It’s its strength and weakness ‘cause they sacrificed everything else to look cool. And it does. But it’s boring and there is nothing else going on.
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Ria: I’m still so annoyed about the temples. Why are they there? Like, on Chorus it was a big thing, also plotwise, but it had lore connected to it and the worldbuilding explained it. So, where are these temples? A different planet, right? Is it the same aliens? Are people just cool with the temples? Why haven’t they been explored before. Chorus made sure to explain all of that.
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Haley: The West and East scene-
Ria: Feast.
Haley: Confused me. ‘cause West didn’t really regret anything. He just said why he did it. And then all of the sudden East forgave him and rejoined the team. It was so weird. He doubled down on the thing she hated him for so much I was like “Wow he’s kinda an asshole” and then all of a sudden she was on his side? What?
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Haley: Zero does its job if you want action and nothing else. And it’s not RvB. Don’t watch it if you like RvB. And I just want to acknowledge that we are nitpicking. Quite a bit. I’ll admit that. But, I wouldn’t nitpick the other RvB seasons the same way because the old RvB never took itself seriously the way Zero did.
Ria: I agree. We are nitpicking. But like, that’s why we have the movie nights.
Haley: But we are also allowed to criticize it. You can do that with any season. And with the other seasons, you could nitpick it and you can find stuff you don’t like, but there are always stuff you do like or that other people like. I just can’t find anything about Zero that I like. Besides Raymond.
Ria: Yeah. Like, I really love 15. And it had so many flaws people pointed out. And when it comes to criticism and Zero, I just don’t see many points about why people like it. They are allowed to do that though. But, like, we could have a movie night where we watch the Chorus seasons and we’d nitpick so much because we both have issues with it, but there is still so much stuff we’d still like.
Haley: I like Raymond though. He’s like Grimmons lovechild.
Ria: No. Fuck you. Don’t put that in my brain.
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Haley: Raymond being in this… I want to say it feels like the Freelancers seasons but if Grif was part of the team or something. But that’s just “Hit and Run”. *laughs*
Ria: NO! That’s cursed. Shut up. Also, the Freelancers were way better written.
Haley: And those seasons made better sense.
Ria: And like, the Freelancer seasons did the thing with change of tone and have these new and super cool characters and fight scenes. But they kept half of the seasons to be around the Reds and Blues so we still had the humor and the dumbasses, and Zero just, it didn’t connect.
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Haley: So, I have some thoughts on Zero.
Ria: I know, you fuck, I had to write them all down by hand.
Haley: I like bad movies, actually, but Zero didn’t stay fun, so no, I didn’t enjoy it.
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Ria: Do you forgive me for making you watch Zero?
Haley: Yeah.
Ria: What should we watch next?
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Also, Haley dressed up her dog for the event and you all deserve to see her:
#we asked you answered we delivered#like most of these are just stupid observation#but we do have some proper reflections on the good and the bad and the ugly#and markers!#rvb zero critical
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New Horror 2022 - Day 22

"When the Gentlemen Go By" by Margaret Ronald (2008) "Don’t look, baby, don’t look."
The trolley problem has a solid place in horror.
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"The Fool of the Web" by Patricia Breen, Roel, Brenda Feikema (1997) "Your belly quakes with laughter even as I tremble in disgust."
Sometimes you follow the maiden, and sometimes the maiden follows you.
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Halloween Ends dir. David Gordon Green (2022) "What are you gonna do when Michael comes back for you?”
These Halloween movies are such a mess. I went back to read the plots and remind myself about what happens in the first two parts of this new trilogy and it starts simply enough, but the second and third are trying to say something about the evil on both sides and it makes for an incredibly confused story at best, a shitty attempt to address all sides of our cultural climate at its worst.
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Silent Hill dev. Team Silent (1999) “I get it now, why I’m still alive even though everyone else is dead.”
I avoided this game since playing a bit in 1999 and noping out at the sight of scary demon children with knives. Then, I goofed by playing the sequel before the first one, so the framework was all very familiar now that I did get here. I can appreciate why the series has developed such a following now that I completed these first two entries. The recently announced remakes and sequels must be like a torrent after a drought.
#silent hill#video games#when the gentlemen go by#margaret ronald#short stories#crypt of the dawn#patricia breen#roel#brenda fekeima#comics#halloween ends#david gordon green#movies#horror#new horror 2022#horror fiction
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The Murder Artist: Alfred Hitchcock At The End Of His Rope by Alice Stoehr
“Rope was an interesting technical experiment that I was lucky and happy to be a part of, but I don’t think it was one of Hitchcock’s better films.” So wrote Farley Granger, one of its two stars, in his memoir Include Me Out. The actor was in his early twenties when the Master of Suspense plucked him from Samuel Goldwyn’s roster. He’d star in the first production from the director’s new Transatlantic Pictures as Phillip Morgan, a pianist and co-conspirator in murder. John Dall would play his partner, homicidal mastermind Brandon Shaw. Granger had the stiff pout to Dall’s trembling smirk.
The “interesting technical experiment” was Hitchcock’s decision to shoot the film, adapted from a twenty-year-old English play, as a series of 10-minute shots stitched together into a simulated feature-length take. This allowed him to retain the stage’s spatial and temporal unities while guiding the audience with the camera’s eye. In the process, he’d embed a host of meta-textual and erotic nuances within the sinister mise-en-scène. Screenwriter Arthur Laurents (Granger’s boyfriend, for a time) updated the play’s fictionalized account of Chicagoan thrill killers Leopold and Loeb to a penthouse in late ‘40s Manhattan. There, Phillip strangles the duo’s friend David—his scream behind a curtain opens the film—immediately prior to a dinner party where they’ll serve pâté atop the box that serves as his coffin. It’s a morbid premise for a comedy of manners, and Brandon taunts his guests throughout the evening. (Asked if it’s someone’s birthday, he coyly replies, “It’s, uh, really almost the opposite.”)
Granger deemed the film lesser Hitchcock due to two limitations. One was the sheer repetition and exact blocking demanded by its formal conceit, the other the Production Code’s blanket ban on “sex perversion,” which meant tiptoeing around the fact that Brandon and Phillip—like their real-life inspirations and, to some degree, Rope’s leading men—were gay. That stringent homophobia forced Hitchcock and Laurents to convey their sexuality through ambiguity and implication; the director would use similar tactics to adapt queer writers like Daphne du Maurier and Patricia Highsmith. (“Hitchcock confessed that he actually enjoyed his negotiations with [Code honcho Joseph] Breen,” notes Thomas Doherty in the book Hollywood’s Censor. “The spirited give-and-take, said Hitchcock, possessed all the thrill of competitive horse trading.”) The nature of the characters’ relationship is hardly subtext: Rope starts with their orgasmic shudder over David’s death, then labored panting after which Brandon pulls out a cigarette and lets in some light. A few minutes later, Brandon strokes the neck of a champagne bottle; Phillip asks how he felt during the act, and he gasps “tremendously exhilarated.”
Like Brandon’s hints about the murder, the homosexuality on display is surprisingly explicit if an audience can decode it. The whole film pivots around their partnership, both criminal and domestic. In an impish bit of conflation, their scheme even stands in for “the love that dare not speak its name,” with David’s body acting as a fetish object in a sexual game no one else can perceive. The guests, as Brandon puts it, are “a dull crew,” “those idiots” who include David’s father and aunt, played by London theater veterans Cedric Hardwicke and Constance Collier. Joan Chandler and Douglas Dick, both a couple years into what would be modest careers, play David’s fiancée Janet and her ex Kenneth. Character actress Edith Evanson appears as housekeeper Mrs. Wilson, a prototype for Thelma Ritter’s Stella in Rear Window, and a top-billed James Stewart is Rupert Cadell, who once mentored the murderers in arcane philosophy.
This was the first of Stewart’s four collaborations with Hitchcock. It cast the actor against type not as a romantic hero but as an observer and provocateur, his gaze shrewd, his dialogue heavy with irony. The role presaged his work in the ‘50s, with Mann rather than Capra, emphasizing psychology over ideology. Rupert, like L.B. Jeffries or Scottie Ferguson, is rooting out a crime, and in so doing comes to seem more loathsome than the villains themselves. “Murder is—or should be—an art,” he lectures midway through Rope, eyebrow arched, martini glass in hand. “Not one of the seven lively perhaps, but an art nevertheless.” Half an hour in real time later, having seen David’s body, he flies into a moralizing monologue: “You’ve given my words a meaning that I never dreamed of!” It takes up the last several minutes of the film, with Rupert snarling from deep in his righteous indignation, “Did you think you were God, Brandon?”
Stewart was a master of sputtering, impassioned oratory, and his facility for it renders Rupert’s hypocrisy especially stark. He taught these murderers; he can’t just shrug off his culpability. The Code decreed that “the sympathy of the audience shall never be thrown to the side of crime, wrongdoing, or sin.” Every transgression reaps a punishment. The ending of Rope abides by the letter of this law, as Rupert fires several shots into the night, drawing a police siren toward the building. He sits, deflated, while Phillip plays piano and Brandon has one last drink. But none of David’s loved ones get to excoriate his killers. The one man here with no integrity, no moral authority, is the one who gets the final, self-flagellating word.
The Code forbade throwing sympathy to the side of sin, but if Hitchcock meant any character in Rope as his stand-in, it was Brandon, not Rupert. The top to Phillip’s bottom, he’s the director of the play within a film. He’s storyboarded it to perfection. Janet, realizing he’s toying with her, cries that he’s incapable of just throwing a party. “No, you’d have to add something that appealed to your warped sense of humor!” Hitchcock, who’d built a corpus of corpses, must have gotten a chuckle from that line. Whereas Phillip fears discovery, Brandon puts symbolism above pragmatism, prioritizing what Phillip dubs his “neat little touches.” He needs to have dinner on the chest, the murder weapon tied around antique books, and his surrogate father Rupert in attendance, much as the film’s director needed to shoot in long takes—not because it’s pragmatic, but because it’s beautiful. He went to great lengths for verisimilar beauty here, as Steven Jacobs details in The Wrong House: The Architecture of Alfred Hitchcock. Miniatures in the three-dimensional cyclorama seen through the broad penthouse window were wired and connected to a ‘light organ’ that allowed for the gradual activation of the skyline’s thousands of lights and hundreds of neon signs. Meanwhile, spun-glass clouds were shifted by technicians from right to left during moments when the camera turned away from the window.
Jacobs notes as well that a painting by Fidelio Ponce de León hanging on Brandon and Phillip’s wall actually belonged to the director and had previously hung in his own home. Rope is avant-garde art wrapped in a bourgeois thriller, about avant-garde art wrapped in a dinner party, pushing moral and aesthetic boundaries while collapsing any distinction between the two. In this nested construction, Brandon the murder artist becomes a figure of auto-critique or perhaps apologia. Did you think you were God, Alfred? By 1948, he’d already made dozens of films, often obliquely about sex and violence, across decades and continents. He’d become the world champion sick joke raconteur. Rope is a reckoning with the ethics of his genre.
By 1948, the world had changed. A few years earlier, Hitchcock’s friend (and Rope co-producer) Sidney Bernstein had asked him to advise on a film about Germany’s newly liberated concentration camps. As Kay Gladstone writes in Holocaust and the Moving Image, Hitchcock worried that “tricky editing” would let skeptics read its footage as fraudulent and asked the editors “to use as far as possible long shots and panning shots with no cuts.” The director took his own counsel to heart.
Rope was also his first color film, the start of his fascination with dull palettes. (A quarter-century later he’d limn Frenzy’s London with every shade of beige.) Genteel browns and grays dominate the penthouse, the hues of men’s suits. Only after nightfall does the apartment glow with, in Jacobs’ phrasing, “the expressive possibilities of urban neon light.” The dinner party takes place at the crest of postwar modernity, a world away from the camps. Here, among the East Coast intelligentsia, murder’s merely a thought experiment. When David’s father mentions Hitler, Brandon dismisses him as “a paranoiac savage.” Yet even in polite society, the evening can begin with a secret killing and end with that iniquity brought to light. “Perhaps what is called civilization is hypocrisy,” says Brandon. “Perhaps,” David’s father concedes.
In 1948, the world was changing. That year saw the publication of Gore Vidal’s landmark gay novel The City and the Pillar and the first of the Kinsey Reports. Antonioni was a documentarian about to make his first feature; Truffaut was a delinquent catching Hitchcock movies at the Cinémathèque. Rope’s amorality and pitch-black humor augur a world and a cinema that were yet to come. It’s thorny gay art through a straight auteur. The film’s last thirty seconds show Rupert’s back to the camera while Brandon sips his cocktail and Phillip plays a tune, the trio lit by flashing neon. In this denouement lie decadence and damnation, art and death, the Code-closeted past and a disaffected future.
#alfred hitchcock#rope film#rope movie#hitchcock#james stewart#farley granger#john dall#gore vidal#michelangelo antonioni#francois truffaut#frenzy film#the wrong house: the architecture of alfred hitchcock#musings#film writing#film essay#oscilloscope laboratories#o-scope labs#adam yauch#Beastie Boys
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Analysis of X: Uncanny X-Men #159 “Night Screams!”

Happy Halloween! For our Halloween special, I take my first dive into Claremont’s classic X-Men Run proper, as Claremont’s future New Mutants partner Bill Sienkiewicz drops by just in time for the X-Men to battle Dracula for the soul of Storm! Get your stakes ready and join me after the cut.
Welcome everyone to my special Halloween Edition of Analysis of X. I love this holliday: Scary movies, adorable children in costume, more sugar than I probably need… it’s the best. And it’s on this sacred day I’ve decided to take a second look at one of my faviorite X-Men stories and see if it still holds up to me the second time around. I first heard about this story in the back of Wizard Magzine in this old beatup issue I got from my brother, and was blown away by the descrption of an event we’ll get to towards the end. When I finally read the issue years later thanks to an issue of Classic X-Men, it exceded my expectations, and hence here I am to see if it still holds up. And since the few bits of exposition needed can just be done as we go, let’s sink our teeth into “Night Screams”
We open on the Uncanny, the powerful, the misunderstood, the brave X-Men!... barging into someone’s apartment and being confused by the occupant. Naturally both parties are confused: The young lady because it’s her damn apartment and suddenly a blue elf, a smelly hairy Canadian, a metallic Russian, an African goddess and a masked teenager come rushing into her place. The X-Men are confused because this apartment belongs to their friend Misty Knight. Those of you who watched Netflix’s excellent Luke Cage series probably remember her from that. In the comics she’s not far off from where she ended up by the end of the Netflix/MCU partnership: a private eye who used to be a cop and has a robot arm, in the comics provided by Tony Stark because back in the 70’s and 80’s tony would make some sorta gadget for anyone who pulled a dump truck of money up to his house. As I mentioned in Excalibur, Chris Claremont never really forgot any character he ever had anything to do with, and since she was a major supporting character during his run on iron fist along with her partner in asskicking Colieen Wing, who you may remember as the best part of Iron Fist’s own Netflix series, he had the two pop up in his X-Men run during a time when they thought the professor and jean were dead, because no one bothered to pick up a fucking phone. As such Misty had apparently offered her place to the X-Men any time they were in the city proper… but herself didn’t pick up the damn phone and tell her in the past few months she got a roommate, so said roommate is understandably pissed off to find a bunch of strangers in her place.
As the above should make obvious, the young lady is Harmony Young, famous model and misty’s new roommate. At this time Mary Jo Duffy had taken over Luke Cage, at the time Power Man,’s book and, in an attempt to keep the book from being canceled, brought Iron Fist in as a second protagonist and made the book into a buddy picture with the two’s contrasting personalites and backgrounds playing off each other. Having read this run, it’s fantastic and well worth a read and is the backbone of later runs of Luke and Danny while creating one of the best friendships in all of Marvel. As for how the hell this relates to this story, Harmony is a supporting character from that run and at the time, Luke’s Girlfriend and thus moved in with Misty when Misty needed a roommate.
With the confusion cleared up the X-Men try to smooth things over, minus Logan who, now knowing he dosen’t have a fight on his hands is going to get drunk because logan frankly has three states: boning, drinking and killin, and Kurt’s already swooping in there, and while you’d think hitting on Luke Cage’s girlfriend would be dumb, Luke is not above a three way. I mean why do you think danny sleeps at his and jess’s place every other Sunday? Storm being the leader she is offers to leave, but Harmony, seeing three handsome young men and likely having an open relationship with Luke, decides what the hell and lets the X-Men stay. Kitty scoffs at her and.. oh god I’m going to have to talk about the Colossus and Kitty thing aren’t I? Fuck me…. Yeah for those of you who weren’t aware, Kitty had a crush on Colossus.. a grown man at the very least 6 years older than her. They eventually DID enter a relationsip, that THANK CHRIST, wasn’t sexual till Jim Shooter, in one of the few times he actually made sense as Marvel’s Editor in Chief outright told Chris to cut it out and broke the couple up himself by having Pitor fall for someone else. And while that whole romance was forced and rushed, it both ended an annoying subplot and gave us a DAMN good issue of Uncanny I’ll get to some day. We soon find out WHY the X-Men are in town in the first place:
I do like the story progression so far: it feels organic and the opening of the X-Men barging in on an apartment is a nice hook and the following pages quickly explain the situation without feeling too clunky about it. But yeah Kitty’s Parents want to see her and while as Ororo notes she dosen’t have anything to wear, Harmony being a true friend to this person she just met offers up her vast wardrobe which Kitty herself quickly gets herself a piece of. The two get dressed and head off to meet the Prydes. We then get a short scene of Cyclops, whose on vacation visitng his brother Alex alongside his space pirate dad. As you can tell i’m not really going that much into it as it’s only one page of the isssue and has nothing to do with the rest of the plot other than informing us Professor Xavier’s in a coma, which tells me why he wasn’t with the rest of the team. Back in NYC, Kurt is still flirting with Harmony when the team gets a call from Kitty... who wonders if Ororo got home okay. Kurt’s instantly put on alert because she’d told kitty she was heading straight back.. hours ago. And as we see bellow, she’s been attacked with two marks left on her neck... which can only mean one thing.. NEIL BREEN HAS KILLED AGAIN.. or you know vampires.
Storm is rushed to the hospital and Logan and PItor soon get the call thanks to Storm’s wallet to come get her. While the doctor wants to keep her overnight Storm is.. oddly calm, finding the night realixing and getting the feeling something’s watching her, but shaking it off. The fact she’s not CONCERNED about that or seems chipper after having her throat torn open just screams red flag don’t’ it? Storm returns home to rest , shooing the rest of the X-Men away and well. if you were wondering when the hell this turned into a vampire story besides the whole neck bites thing...
The scene is haunting and well done and Bill, since his last name is hard to spell and I’ve mangled enough names as is on this blog, does a fine job with it, portraying the horror of it as well as how entrhaled Ororo is well. IT’s this sort of moody atmospheric stuff that would serve him well when he became artist on New Mutants and thare’s damn good reason his run is where the book really starts to pick up steam. Kitty returns home.. and is greeted with the news Storm has turned ill. When kitty tries visting storm is afraid of the sunlight, has a mysterious scarf from an admierer with a large D on it, and flinches when Kitty’s star of david brushes up against her. Kitty, sensing the obvious heads off to do some errands. Later that night Ororo lets her her “lover” and the one behind all this...
Yup. I wasn’t lying or exaggerating in the teaser: The one behind all this is DRACULA. That Dracula, not some alien or some other vampire. The prince of Darkness himself has designs on Ororo. And if your wondering if this is just some one issue weirdness… NOPE. Around this time, Dracula had his own ongoing started in the 70’s, Tomb of Dracula and what I’ve read is excellent. As a result Dracula was a part of the Marvel Universe, had his own backstory and enimies, and fought the likes of Dr. Strange and Spider-Man and earlier this year was the center of a major plot in Jason Aaron’s Avengers run. But before he can turn her, help arrives..
IT’s kitty who got a nifty Van Helsing getup and a cross.. but in an intresting twist on the mythos the cross does nothing. But not for the by this point cliché reason of “we’re just not using that old chesnut”, no in the Marvel Universe one needs genuine faith for the religious symbols weakness to work… and as the star of david showed earlier, Kitty is Jewish .. but when Dracula tries to choke a bitch, it’s said star of David that saves her. Tragically, Storm is too brainwashed to run and leaves with Dracula, begging Kitty to forget her and leaving the poor child in tears as her surrogate older sister leaves with a monster, possibly forever and there’s nothing she can do to stop it. On a side note though nice entrance line. While it’s no “Begone monster you do not belong in this world!” it’s still pretty sweet.
The rest of the team burst in and Kitty explains what’s going on: that while she didn’t know it was DRACULA till now, she was supscious but rightly suspected the others wouldn’t belive her and Logan dosen’t, trying to write off the scarf as Harmony or Misty’s.. but Kurt shoots it down, stating that Kitty is no child and her word means as much as Logan’s own, with his own time in Bavaria telling him to not take vampires lightly.. ESPECIALLY Dracula. Even if Logan still isn’t buying it, Kitty does point out that wether she’s right or not, Ororo is too injured to leave out in the wild, let alone with some strange man who may or may not be Dracula. Given this is a superhero comic, a fight naturally breaks out, with Dracula summoning his wolves, where’d he purchase those, to fight while Kurt tries fighting the big man himself.. and quickly gets his fuzzy blue ass handed to him. Colossus and WOlverine take the wolves out and prepare for the big man himself.
As you can see Dracula is handing them their asses.. which is no surprise: not only are the X-Men two members short, and even if they weren’t Dracula would still be able to take them. It also helps ease him into this shared universe: the reason why he hasn’t been beaten for good with so many heroes out there is simple: besides having the cover of being so famous that most wouldn’t belive he’s real, he’s also really damn powerful and only one vampire hunter after him has any sort of powers, that being Blade who was introduced in Tomb of Dracula. And while he’s a vampire, he dosen’t have Drac’s broken number of extra powers.
With it now being clear given he fuck slammed Colossus that Dracula is out of their league Kurt suggests a straight up fight won’t work and they need plan B.. and with that we get the best scene in the issue, the one that made me want to read it in the first place.
Just as a recap, in a brilliant callback to a few pages ago, Wolverine tries, cleverly, to use his claws as a cross.. but as Dracula mocks him, it won’t work. Like Parappa the Rapper says you gotta belivie.. and unfortunately for Dracula, Kurt does in what is, to my suprise, the first time his religion comes up but it works well and adds a sizeable amount to his character. Sadly as fucking epic as this is, it only holds him off for a second and he soon sendds lightning after him because.. apparently he can do that now? I dunno. While this goes on Kitty runs into the castle which Dracula has morphed into his own kinda castle, and while Kitty dosen’t find dracula she does find an almost turned storm and readies a stake, though Ororo points out it won’t do much good.. and we get another powerful scene as Kitty decides she’s right.
While that goes on, the rest of the team presses on but have no more luck and soon Dracula has them beat and Storm arrives seemingly having slain kitty.. only to shed her Dracula outfit for her uniform and start kicking Dracula’s ass, kicking off an awesome fight between the two.
She ends up slamming him into a party where Drac, being a sore looser, tries to force her to submit.. but she stays her ground and he gets desperat holding a hostage to try and get her to submit
But as seen she will not and refuses to.. and Dracula admits defeat, realizing he was genuinely attracted to her and he’d have to snuff out what made her worthy of being his queen to do so. Granted he’s still a creepy mind rapist, but it’s still a nice character touch. He books it out of there, and being good at evading people as his solo would show, tells Ororo following would be a fools errand and givne how beaten down her team is , even with her back to give them the edge, he’s right. So for now he escapes, but the X-Men have one the night and Ororo is free and back to being just a mutant again and tearfully reunited with kitty at misty’s place.
With that touching scene done, our heroes runite with Harmony, with Misty and Coleen now present and celebrate their narrow victory. There’s also a quick stinger with Moira MacTaggert telling the X-Men xavier’s condition has gotten worse, but for the most part, it’s a happy ending as our heroes, however narrowly have won the day and I thankfully got this done before Halloween ended.
Final Thoughts: This issue is every bit as good the second time around, if not more so now I know who Harmony is and have read some of Dracula’s own title, though it’s not a necessity as none of the stuff from Tomb is important here, and Harmony is introduced well enough. This issue is a masterpiece, having atompsheric moody horror, the drawings well done and there’s so much I didn’t show that’s just awesome and Bill would only get better from here. The character work is also great as most of the X-Men get moments to shine. While wolverine is mostly there for his usaul schtick as is Colosus, how easily dracula manhandles them shows just how strong he is without feeling forced. But the real stars are Kurt, who gets one of his finest moments here and even after that fails still presses on anyway, Storm whose transformation is truly horrifying and whose ultimate victory is made all the sweeter and Kitty, whose at her best with: her youthful naivity matching well with her refusal to give up as she stares down both Dracula and her big sister in equal amounts. The issue is a must read for what’s left of this Halloween and every one after it and a great little done in one. Even with the btis of other storylines, it’s still easy to read and understand on it’s own and is one of the best one and done issues i’ve ever read and still holds it’s position in my eyes as one of the best X-Men stories period, taking what should be a rediculous premise and owning the hell out of it. A must read if i’ve ever read one.
#uncanny x-men#x-men#storm#wolverine#colossus#kitty pryde#nightcrawler#dracula#tomb of dracula#marvel comics#harmony young#misty knight#vampires#horror#halloween.
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The Next Act: Brooklyn’s Jenn Murray
Originally posted December 2, 2015 on The Gloss.

Her part in Brooklyn has made Belfast actress JENN MURRAY one to watch. But it’s her next project, writes SARAH BREEN, that will undoubtedly catapult her to superstardom
To say it was a dream come true when Jenn Murray was invited to audition for a role in the film adaptation of Colm Tóibín’s Brooklyn is a gross understatement. “Colm Tóibín is one of my favourite writers,” she says. “Brooklyn was a book that my father gave me when I moved to London and it became like a bible. The story of a woman going off on her own and trying to make her life gave me such security and comfort.”
In the film, which was adapted for the screen by Nick Hornby, Saoirse Ronan plays Eilis Lacey, a young woman who leaves Ireland for New York in the 1950s. Murray is Dolores, a Cavan native who Lacey meets in their Brooklyn boarding house. The cast also includes Jim Broadbent, Julie Walters and Domhnall Gleeson.
“Dolores’s objective is to find a husband,” laughs Murray. “She loves men and is smart and fun. In the boarding house, she’s an outsider, always at the end of the table. Nobody wants to associate with her because they look down on her. But she’s savvy and she knows what she wants.”
Although shy as a child, Murray had always enjoyed performing but it wasn’t until she was a teenager that she made the decision to pursue acting as a career. “When I was 14, I watched In The Name of the Father with my brother,” she says. “The story and performances were incredible. It ignited something in me. I felt alive after watching it. It was something I’d never felt before and I made a promise to myself then that I would find a way to be an actress.”
After studying drama for both her GCSEs and A Levels, she was offered a place at university but deferred and worked on her acting portfolio during her gap year instead with a view. Not only was she talented, she had the level of grit and determination required to make it in the business. “I did community theatre, I did drama classes, I went to New York and took an acting for film course,” she says. “I was really proactive so when I got in to drama school, my parents knew I was serious. In my final year, I got my first movie, Dorothy Mills.”
What Murray didn’t realise at the time, is that producers had been auditioning for the title role of Mills, a teenage girl accused of murdering a baby who is ultimately diagnosed with multiple personality disorder, for over a year. They needed a woman who could look 16, but also had the range to play several different characters. Quite a challenge, for a novice.
But for every amazing role an actor wins, there are the ones that get away. Rejection is par for the course in a notoriously fickle industry. “There have been things I really wanted and didn’t get,” says Murray. “I was up for Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, which would have been amazing. What’s great is when you finally get a part, you have it – it’s on your CV. Even when you think, oh, I’m back to being unemployed, you are always going further and moving forward. But the rejection is still horrendous. It feels personal.”
Today, Murray is in Ireland for a flying visit before she heads back to the set of Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them, the Harry Potter spin-off based on the book by JK Rowling. The film, produced by Warner Brothers and directed by David Yates, who was at the helm of the last four Potter movies, has a star-studded cast that includes Eddie Redmayne, Samantha Morton, Colin Farrell and Jon Voight.
“I have lived in London for years, and I’ve been very lucky there, but I wanted a change so I moved to Los Angeles for a few months,” she says. “Something in my body just told me to go. The audition came through Fiona Weir who cast me in Brooklyn. I didn’t have any script, I didn’t know anything about it, so I had to improvise. With improv, you can really see who an actor is. It’s nerve-wracking but being vulnerable is the best thing as an actor. When I heard I got it my stomach dropped. It’s so competitive, they could have anyone they want. It was magic.”
Of course there are inevitable repercussions in being part of what’s likely to be a massive international box office success. Is she prepared to lose her anonymity, to gain a certain level of fame? “I’ve learned through my career to just take things as they come. I’ve done a lot of independent film and television and you put your heart and soul into everything you do, and you should do that, no matter what. To get a film like this, which already has such a backing and such a following; I haven’t really thought about the consequences. I don’t want to think about that, I just want to tell the story as best I can. You’re defined by what you do with the opportunities you’ve been given.”
Outside of acting, Murray is always creating. She has an exhibition of her photography, mostly still life, taken in LA, running at the Dublin coffee shop Clement & Pekoe until Christmas and she also writes screenplays in her down-time. “When you can’t act, you can always write so you’re still creating something,” she says.
“If I’m not creating or acting I feel like I’m not breathing. I remember Angelina Jolie saying in an interview that her advice to a young actor would be to get a life. It really resonated with me because up to that point I was auditioning, acting, waiting. Never going on holiday, making a lot of sacrifices, and it wasn’t making my work better or making me happier. I didn’t get less ambitious, I just fulfilled other things that I wanted to do. If anyone asks me for career advice, I tell them to only act if you physically can’t do anything else. If you’re compelled beyond a reasonable doubt then you’re in the right job.”
Brooklyn is in cinemas now.
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WEEK 10 - Wrap Up
These Eyes - Are Cryin’
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So, usually every Sunday I spend my afternoons on my porch watching NFL Sunday Ticket and enjoying my fantasy match up. But, when the games are not going my way and I start to do so bad that I can’t watch anymore, like what happened this weekend...I start flipping the channels, in hopes that a distraction will pull me out of my deep depression. And this week as I saw my chances slip away I noticed that SuperBad was on some cable channel over and over again for hours and hours. There are so many great scenes but the one where Michael Cera is trapped in a room with a bunch of people doing drugs and they make him sing “These Eyes” by The Guess Who is so awesome. So, if you had a “Super Bad” fantasy weekend (see what I did there!) maybe watch this scene and forget about all of your worries.
ISUCK vs FUNK GUY
Oh how I want to be more like Larry David. Don’t you? I can’t really see Larry David playing Fantasy Football. He just doesn’t care enough about anything to really put the work into it to be successful. And that is where I have arrived mentally in my 2020 season. I have become “that” guy when you look on the schedule to see who you are playing you are like “oh, good Breen...that’s an easy win”. In the first part of the season this guy was Gabe (I won’t go into the fact that he was hospitalized and I have not been...). In past years this person was Mitch White - right? So, Dana - congratulations. Not that you wouldn’t have beat me anyway with Big Ben, Mike Evans, Malcolm Brown, Saints D and your Kicker all putting up great numbers. You did great but the reality is I am the loser of the league and you should always expect to win when you play me - hence my name. Nice win.
MOOSES ON THE LOOSES vs LONG LEFT BALLERS
I feel like Mitch is just showing off now. He has 4 wins in a row. He’s 8-2. And he is starting to look like he could actually pull this thing off. And winning the league is what I mean by “pulling this off”. This week he was up against Bebo Norman who has had a great run as well, but this week he threw up a few too many single digit performances from his line up and it cost him the win. The fear I have with Mitch winning it all this year is I think that will pretty much leave just Brett and I as the only “non - champions” in the league and I am not ready for that reality. So, it’s up to Scott, Howard and myself to take him down over the next 3 weeks and give the moose a dose of reality. Good luck Moose - from here on out! Sorry Bebo....tough week!
TRADE WITH ME vs TREE HUGGERS
I know Brett is going to think he’s awesome because he finally broke his 3 game losing streak and grabbed a win. But, surely he knows that when you win with 76 points it’s not really a win. I mean it shows up as a win but in your heart Brett, you know right? You survived the week but you didn’t really win. Scott, I am sorry to say that you will be joining me at the sad 3-7 record. It’s actually hard to do. To lose 7 out of 10 games in a league like this but we have done it. All Scott really needed was a good showing from Mike Davis or maybe a TD from Higbee and things would have be different. Nice win Brett...be careful though - cause next week you face Cliff Young!
HOWARD vs LANAKILA
Well, Howard is still in it and still holding on. There are three games left in the season and he is in the very challenging “Odd Division” with The Moose and Tu Padre holding on to first and second. Which means he will be in a points race to make the wild card - 3rd place slot. Currently he leads Gabe by 60 points and Brett and I by many many points. So, he either needs to continue to win and have The Moose and Gully lose the next few or keep his points up to skate into the playoffs. Oh, and Lanakila...he played Lanakila this weekend. Cliff is in the “Even Division” and they have 4 tied at 5-5 (Cliff, Stu, Bebo and Dana) so it’s anyone’s game going forward. You know what’s sad? If Cliff would have just played Ronald Jones instead of Zack Moss he would have been 1st in his division. Sorry Cliff!
TuPADRE vs BOOMER SOONER
Look at Stu! Doing the unexpected. Taking down a guy that is ranked #1 in the league! Crazy! Gully was on a 4 game winning streak and he still beat him. And he didn’t just barely beat him...he won by 28 points! Very impressive. Gully had is normal game from Kamara but Russel Wilson, Will Fuller and James Conner were busts. Meanwhile, Stu was firing on all cylinders with Lamar, Hunt, Beasley and that Hail Mary game winning catch from Hopkins. I’m sure that this was a one off fluke from Gully and he will be back to his old self next week against Allmendinger...but in the mean time it makes the top of the Odd Division belong to Mitch White and it also put Stu Jones in a four way tie for first - record wise in the Even Division. Nice win!
MR AWESOME vs BACKDOOR BANDITS
Well, another Monday Night...another Close Call ending. Going into Monday night Gabe had the lead 100.18 to Kyle with 91.40 points. Gabe was done for the week and Kyle only had Viking Justin Jefferson to play. Jefferson the past two weeks had put up just 2.6 and 6.40 and Kyle needed 8.79 to win. Kyle could have played Jakobi Meyers and already be a winner but he didn’t so we had to wait and see what would transpire on MNF. The Bears Defense kept the entire Minnesota offense quiet most of the game but Jefferson was getting some looks (had 60 yards in the 3rd) and then late in the 3rd quarter Jefferson broke through for over 50 yards and ended Gabe’s hopes. So, Kyle grabs the win and probably pushes me down to 12th place. Appreciate it Allmendinger. Hey, if you’re not first you’re last - am i right? Nice win Kyle. Gabe will live to fight another day as he continues to make a playoff run against Howard.
SURVIVOR
Yes Boring. Brett picked the Saints and Gabe picked the Packers and both won so we are into week 11 for Survivor.
HIGH POINT WINNER
The high point winner this week is Mitch White with 133.08 just edging out Dana Cappillino. This make his 3rd High Point win this season. Yep, that’s right - $60 in the bank. With all that money...he needs to be careful...after all he is a married man and girls obviously like the money. At least that is the case with this weeks picture prize. She isn’t technically an athlete but her dad was the greatest hockey player of all time and her fiance just pulled down $2 million at the Masters this weekend so she is eligible for the post. Paulina Gretsky. “masters edition”.


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