#dff phi

[vegasthehedgehog]

It makes me so mad that the Phee Jin scene is so good. Like why they gotta put on a show like that while being the characters that irritate me the most.

[raelle-writing]

PheeJin moments living in my head rent free

A non-exhaustive list:

The tension in this scene ~

Do I even need to say it?

When Phee covers Jin with the blanket after a traumatic night.

When Phee goes into attack mode as he sees Jin is in danger

The way Phee holds Jin after saving him

Phee promising to protect Jin

The little nose touch, I'll never be over it

Phee comforting Jin while they're stuck

Phee taking care of Jin's dislocated shoulder

And the way Jin looks a Phee right afterwards ~

IDK guys I'm just super obsessed with them, I hope we get more soooooooooooooon

[blmpff]

Ta's comforting head pat would fix me istg

[iwantoceans]

How to survive slasher films : a guide

[fracturediron]

Something I do like about the character writing for DFF is that 1) The characters really do feel like messy teenagers 2) The characters do shitty things, hurt each other or do harmful things to themselves that - frustrating and painful as it is to watch - make sense for the character and their circumstances. The characters don't often make the smart or best decision, but for the most part, it makes sense in context.

Tw for discussion of sexual abuse

Like am I mentally yelling at Non to forget about the movie, ditch these shitty 'friends', be honest with Phee, report Kru Keng and to move to Phee's school? Yes, I am. Do I understand why he doesn't do any of those things? Yes, I do.

He's a teenager who's mentally ill, isolated, with low self esteem and coming from a place of poverty.

As a kid, I was also part of a group of 'friends' who were actually bullies. Although things never went nearly as far as they do in DFF, I can get where Non's coming from. When you're that desperate for acceptance and to be a part of a group (however shitty it may be), and when perhaps they're not even always shitty, just enough so to make you consider staying around, you'll stay around in the hope things get better.

Non's family are poor - to the point of taking out loans for New - and he's already brought trouble to their door due to the money laundering scheme, as well as to his parents' relationship. In contrast to New - who's implied to be the golden child - Non likely feels like he's brought nothing but trouble and misery to his family.

As someone who's mentally ill and on medication, I wouldn't be surprised if he felt ashamed of his mental illness as well, and felt like that already made him a 'burden' to his family. Disclaimer that I don't know how mental illness is treated in Thailand specifically, but as someone from an East/Southeast Asian background, I do feel like in general, mental illness is something that still has a more of a stigma to it in Asia than it does in the West (not that there isn't stigma here too). Like, I would never tell my mum I'm in therapy because I feel like she wouldn't truly understand, and might even blame herself for me going. From her point of view, only 'crazy' people, someone with something seriously wrong with them or someone suffering from severely traumatic event would go to therapy.

When Non got taken in by the police, Phee talked to his dad to get him released, putting himself in potential trouble with his dad and potential future trouble with the police if this comes under any further scrutiny.

Non says time and time again he doesn't want to be a burden to anyone, and he already feels like he's been a burden to his family and Phee. He knows his family can't afford the debt, and he doesn't want to trouble Phee further. So when Kru Keng offers him money in exchange for sex, even though he knows what Kru Keng's doing is wrong, even though he doesn't want to lie and 'cheat' on Phee (and don't tell me it's 'cheating'; again, this is an adult in a position of power grooming a vulnerable youngster), he believes he'd be bringing his troubles to his loved ones and doesn't want to be even more of a 'burden.' So he has sex with Kru Keng.

And then Phee's reaction to finding out. Does he react badly and then say something really awful to Non by telling him to get lost and die? Yes. Do I understand why he reacted like that? Yes! Again, he's a teenager, and probably one in his first serious relationship, and reacting out of anger and hurt, without full details of the situation or understanding of why what Kru Keng's doing is incredibly wrong (even if Non seems to be 'consenting').

Unfortunately, in cases of real life teacher-student grooming, it's not uncommon for the reaction of students (especially teenagers) to not be one of 'oh, that's fucked up, the teacher's a monster, poor student [x]' but for the victim to be ridiculed or slut-shamed by some quarters, especially if it's seen as 'consensual.'

Jin's reaction too. Is it shitty he videoed Non and then (almost?) posted it on social media? Yes. Is it because of him taking that video that it somehow got disseminated to the rest of the school? Yes. Do I understand why he reacted this way? Yes. People are messy and human, and doesn't always react in the best ways in the face of hurt, anger and immaturity

[hopemang7]

DFF ep.10 is giving me huge DO NOT TRUST ANYONE vibes.

Also, I WILL GO DOWN WITH THIS SHIP, but PheeJin strutting thru those haunted woods holding hands right after they confessed their worst sins to each other feels kinda .... weird.

Still hope they make it out alive ... and if not, I will always have this to remember the good times and what could have been in another life:

[priapussdick]

this is called critical thinking

[popontomarnie]

Tan: Okay Phee, get closer to Jin

...

Tan: not like THAT

[miss0atae]

Random thought about Dead Friend Forever ep 3:

▪️I'm convinced this BL slasher needs to be binge watched. Waiting each week for the new episode is killing the scary vibe for me. I will still watch it every week but I believe it will be better to re-watch it in full when all episodes will be out. The experience may be different.

▪️By the way, when will the killer make Fluke disappear?! I can't stand him. He is so unlikeable and for someone who wants to be a doctor, he is not very empathic. He is scaring White and I dislike him for that.

▪️I'm all about Tee being the next one after Fluke. Firstly, he is sus as hell. Secondly, he is the worst partner for White (He tried to leave then he grew a conscience and felt guilty.) I wouldn't trust him. Finally, it seems he was Non's bully. He deserves to be one of the victims.

▪️I'm biased but I like Phi a lot. I'm still debating about Jin and Tan. As for Top, he was so irritating. Is he already dead?! They haven't found him, but I kinda hope he is gone. XD I'm kinda amazed by Por. He is still alive despite being impaled and bleeding in every episode. Don't forget, he also has Fluke as a nursing staff and knowing the guy, it's a miracle he is still breathing.

▪️The killer's costume is growing on me. I didn't like it at first, but I'm changing my mind. Also, I don't really care about his real identity or if they are more than one killer. It still feels a bit silly... We'll see what happens next.

▪️I thought we would get a flashback today with the real introduction of Non and his relationship with the rest of the group minus Phi, Tan and White. Guess, I was wrong. 🫤

[tearingcoala]

Maybe In Another Life

Chapter Four updated

[ "ʜᴇ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ᴅᴇғɪɴɪᴇᴛʟʏ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏɴ ᴛʜᴇ ʙᴇsᴛ ᴍᴏᴠɪᴇ ᴍᴀᴅᴇ ғʀᴏᴍ ʜɪs sᴄʀɪᴘᴛ"]

[vegasthehedgehog]

What if Phi treats Jin alright because he doesn't know that Jin released/at least filmed the clip and lied to police about Nons last where abouts. He probably just knows Jin never directly bullied Non. He probably assumes that at the minimum, Jin is the only one that doesn't look like he just forgot about Non. Everyone else seems like they moved on immediately after Non disappeared. Jin, on the other hand, looks like he forgot how to smile after Non disappeared.

[raelle-writing]

Inspired by @transwegath 😂

[blmpff]

will this be a ~flashback within a flashback~ showing how Phee/Phi and Non got close?

since that's the scenery and clothes they are wearing in Non's wallpaper so it must have already happened:

[slayerkitty]

The DFF Experience: A Dead Friend Forever Fandom Round Up (Part 1*)

I had the wild idea of compiling links to all the various metas, theories, and other resources for DFF for everyone to use so that links and information were kind of all in one place. I dragged @shannankle along for the ride, and we combed through the tag to find all the things we could.

We most likely have missed something even though we tried to be as thorough as possible - if you think there is something we over looked that should be added let us know in the replies or the tags; if you write meta or other resource posts in the future, please tag us and we can add it to the post.

With that, please enjoy The DFF Experience!

Media: 

Official Trailer

Pre-Release/Pilot Trailer

Behind The Scenes

No More Dream - Barcode

Without Me - Bump

Por's RIP? Pic by @having-conniptions

Reviews: 

Dead Friend Forever is More Than Just A 90s Slasher Film Imitation by @syrena-del-mar

Dead Friend Forever is a Marvel of Mystery Writing by @lurkingshan

Phee, Jin, And A Masterful Misdirect by @lurkingshan

Fun Facts to Know and Tell: 

Non refers to his brother New as “P’New” during his argument with his parents in episode 8, confirming that New is the older of the two. 

White refers to Por as P’Por when he’s alone confirming he is younger and not lying about his age

Character Profiles by @raelle-writing

Based on screenshots, White and Phee do not go to the same school as the embroidery is different. 

Fuaiz says White’s parents are rich and engineers

What the Characters Know and Don't Know (As of Episode 9) by @raelle-writing

Actor Reveals About The Characters by @raelle-writing

Theories (Episodes 1-8):

Not Jin’s Video Theory by @raelle-writing

Not Jin’s Laptop Theory by @raelle-writing

Hints at the timeline/dates things happen by @yellingaboutkp

Why Uncle Dang Was Killed by @befuddledcinnamonroll

Is Jin final girl? by @blismytherapy

Non is dead (dead men tell no tales) by @mikuni14

Why So Many Maskys? by @slayerkitty

Tan is New by @tbhimnoteasyonmyself

Are The Boys Being Drugged (Are you High, Top?) by @italianpersonwithashippersheart

Non isn’t dead (alive men tell tales) by @respectthepetty

Theories (Episode 9-10):

Why Jin Sees Keng by @raelle-writing

Is Phee Still Playing Jin (Play On, Player?) by @yellingaboutkp

What's Up With White's Hallucinations? by @jeffsatyr with contributions by @italianpersonwithashippersheart

Tan is Going to Turn on Phee (and other upcoming episode theories) by @slayerkitty

Non Isn’t Dead (alive men tell tales, but they don’t change their clothes) by @subtextsays

Phi is on Tan's Hitlist by @respectthepetty

Non is Alive (Only Alive Men Tell Tales in Telenovelas) by @babyangelsky

Non is the Hidden Character And In This Essay I Will - by @babyangelsky

On The Episode 10 Preview by @crysta1ized

Non is Alive (Alive Men Tell Tales When They Paint in Grayscale) by @yellingaboutkp

Gas Mask for Masky? by @biochemjess

On What Tan Sees by @raelle-writing

Will Phee Tell Jin the Truth? by @mikuni14

How Much is a Hallucination and How Much is Real by @babyangelsky with contributions by @respectthepetty and @shannankle

White is the Mastermind by @sniggerwarning

Top's Scar and Masky on Crutches by @subtextsays

DFF Theory Time by @squishysquadstuff

Theories About White by @crysta1ized

Ninth Person Theory by @raelle-writing

Hallucination or Real? by @raelle-writing

Non is Alive for Now (Alive men tell tales if they're about to kick the bucket) by @harurio

A Scream/DFF Parallel Theory on Who's Behind the Mask by @crysta1ized

Tree Mark Theory by @babyangelsky

Episode 11 Preview Theory by @crysta1ized

New and the Antidote by @respectthepetty

White-Non Theory by @crysta1ized

*Due to the number links and mentions the round up is now four(!) posts. Please see Part 2 here, Part 3 here and Part 4 here.

[recentadultburnout]

Dead Friend Forever - DFF (2023)

เพื่อนตาย (the series name in Thai) means best friend, true friend, real friend, faithful friend, but it consists of the words 'friend (เพื่อน)' and 'dead/die (ตาย)'.

Phi พี

Ratthakiat Phromjinda รัฐเกียรติ พรหมจินดา

Phi-meaty, plump, fat (positive meaning) or it might be shortened from something, or maybe a letter P.

Rat- state, country, nation, territory, realm, kingdom, land

Tha-a sound that put in to help link two words(Rat and Kiat) together.

Kiat- prestige, honour, honor, glory, reputation, dignity, fame

Phrom-Brahma

Jinda-precious stone, gem

Jin จิน

Jinnaphat Sukmek จิณณภัทร สุขเมฆ

Jin-This (จิน) spelling has no meaning in Thai. It might just be a simplified spelling of his legal name's first syllable(จิณ).or maybe it means to represent a word from other language. idk

Jin (จิณ)-Well behaved, one who behaved well

na-a sound that put in to help link two words together.

phat-good, prosperous, excellent

Suk-happy, happiness, joy

Mek-cloud

Tee ตี๋

Pariphat Wanit ปริพัฒน์ วาณิชย์

Tee-Chinese boy

Pariphat-Prosperous in every way

Wanit-Commerce, trade, business

White ไวท์

Watcharin Siriphan วัชรินทร์ ศิริพันธ์

White-Not a Thai word

Watcharin-Lord of Diamonds/Thunder (refer to Lord Indra)

Siri-splendor, glory

phan-binding, related, bound

Tan แทน

Siriwat Phatthanon ศิริวัฒน์ พัฒนานนท์

Tan-represent, stand for, substitute, replace, take the place of, substitute for, supplant, supercede, show gratitude to, repay(meaning dependent on the context)

Siriwat-prosperous

Phatthanon-rejoice in prosperity

Fluke ฟลุ้ค

Phakhin Thianthong ภาคิน เทียนทอง

Fluke-Not a Thai word

Phakhin-lucky person

Thianthong-gold candle, name of a plant (Duranta erecta L)

Top ท้อป

Sirawit Wibulsilp สิรวิชญ์ วิบูลย์ศิลป์

Top-Not a Thai word

Sirawit-The greatest philosopher

Wibul-big, spacious, many, full, complete

Silp-art

Por ปอ

Prachaya Suwannarat ปราชญา สุวรรณรัตน์

Por-jute, hemp, dragonfly

Prachaya-wit

Suwan-gold

Na-a sound that put in to help link Suwan and Rat together.

Rat-gem, precious stone. Might be refer to The Three Jewels of Buddhism (just my opinion)

Non นนท์

Thanakorn Prathipsit ธนกร ประทีปสิทธิ์

Non-pleasure, delight, enjoyment, happiness, joy, contentment, satisfaction

Thanakorn-Create wealth/assets

Prathip-lamp, lantern, light, torch

Sit-right, authority, privilege, ownership, possibility

Keng เก่ง

Ratchanon Kijkarun รัชชานนท์ กิจการุณย์

Keng-excellently, expertly, proficiently, skilfully, brilliantly, good at

Ratchanon-rejoice in treasure

Kij-affair, activity, work, business, operation, duty

Karun- kindliness, compassion, pity, mercy, gracefulness, benevolence, kindheartedness, beneficent

If you look closely, you may notice that some words in the names and surnames of each character are repeated.

The meanings of some of them are pretty similar too.

Not that it's weird.

I just feel like it is a little more than usual. But it isn't exactly like they are a set with an intended theme?? It's just that some of the words they use are kind of in the same group in my head????

Index

[fracturediron]

That’s very true about what you said regarding Jin. Perhaps that’s why he’s in denial about Non’s possible death and doesnt want to confront his role whether directly or indirectly in Non’s demise. Jin is going to have face that at some point.

Phee by a different token is probably carrying heavy guilt about his ‘last words? to Non and whether they were the catalyst to his death/disappearance too.

Oh absolutely to both of these.

Going off on a tangent here, but it's fascinating to me how Phee and Jin are foils to each other, shaped by their relationship with Non and romantic feelings for him.

Both try to act as Non's saviour. Both react poorly to the revelation of Non and Keng's sexual encounter, and do something highly harmful and hurtful to Non out of their own misplaced anger and hurt. Both now likely live with the guilt in the present day over what they did to Non. But while Jin is choosing to run away from Thailand to the USA - to flee his past - if Phee is indeed one of the killers, he's choosing to dig the past back up again, to get to the truth and give Non's tormenters hell to pay