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[willofwinnie]

Cursed Chthonius

Freedom... at long last.

[valeriefauxnom]

More Dragalia Minor Mistakes (Or, when Dragalia's writers and/or translators failed a lore check)...

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Dragalia was surprisingly astute to the general mass of lore it had. That being said, it's only natural that a few mistakes or lore contradictions would slip through the cracks over years of development, perhaps staff coming and going, yadda yadda. Consider this just the second of small logs of whatever I've noticed, throughout my meanderings through the wiki and more!

First up, we're starting today's category with 'technology', namely, the humble abacus. Dragalia's mishmash of technology is understandable, since they've been artificially kept in a state of technological limbo until canon time. And of their technology, we know that the abacus is something that's been lost to most of the world, it seems.

It's Xiao Lei's whole thing, for the rest of the cast to be amazed at how fast she's able to do math with, how cool that is, etc etc. It's this special Taiwuan thing that might save the scientists in Alberia a lot of work!

One problem: this random NPC, very Alberian, shopkeep also is randomly using one, to no amazement by the cast.

Whoops.

More relevant to the main story, though, Phares once incurs a small case of brainfog and mistakes the name of his own terminal illness:

This one I think I can reasonably provide a rationale for this being a translator's error, perhaps one who hadn't dealt with Phares or at least dealt with him for a while. Why? Wyrmscale is more literally in Japanese 'dragon scale - itis', (or, 竜鱗病, ryu urin byou, ryu=dragon, urin=scale, byo = character for 'sickness'), so a translator might have read that and just translated it literally instead of checking whatever lore docs they might have had that they'd already called it 'wyrmscale' in English!

Also related to the lore, this next one's more of a case of later lore contradicting the earlier one, and boy is it petty quibbling on my end.

In short, take a look at this dialogue from Elysium:

See anything wrong? No?

Well, my problem is the use of the word 'young' here! It is the singular word that goes against lore here, as I can't exactly argue against his opinion claim of 'immature!'

We've no less than three other canon sources at least that instead frame humans as a species as among the first in the universe, right along with dragons!

So, yes, Elysium, you're not wrong to call humans 'immature', but to call their species 'young'???? You know better than that! (no he didn't, since this dialogue came before any of the other contradictions here, I believe, but it's still technically an error!)

If we're on a dragon kick, pop quiz: who was Alberius' first pactbound dragon?

Some of you might be yelling 'MIDGARDSORMR' as others yell 'CHTHONIUS', and then you both might hypothetically look at each other and feel confused. Well, you may be glad to know that this was a genuine lore contradiction instead of one of you being 'wrong'.

It's understandable why people thought both options, even aside from the lore confusion. Midgardsormr as the first to really start hanging out with him, or Chthonius as the dragon he was tied body and soul to in the end, who literally merged with him?

Overall, I'm more of the 'Chthonius' side for what they ultimately intended, as we also see other descriptions painstakingly spell out that Mids was the 'first dragon to personally meet Alberius' instead of just saying 'pact with Alberius', and one slipped through the cracks, but still! These minor lore slip ups are what I'm cataloguing here. Honestly, between this, the non-pact slip-up with Brunhilda in the previous post I made, and other things like Alberius slapping Jupiter, he sure had a lot of pacting 'fun' and drama, huh?

Now I'll return to the royal fam lore drama. A long long time ago, I made a post explaining how the family says their names, as is said by their siblings. Some (Phares, cough cough) shooketh me greatly, as the aforementioned example's name might more phonetically be rendered 'Farez' to me instead of the 'Fairays' I was running with more since in my brain I was connecting it to words like "pharaoh" instead.

But I realized I overlooked their father's name. From what I'm seeing, only Audric says his own real name, as everyone else wants to call him His Majesty, Father, or the King.

And here's the doozy: his dementia aura he gives everyone has also been affecting he himself, because he says HIS OWN NAME two different ways!

Here's the relevant soundbites to demonstrate what I mean:

Here, we see one 'Or - Ray - Li - Us' and one 'Or - Rel - ii - Us'

I thiiink we see 'Ray' version twice vs the one time of 'Rel', but this more seems to be a division between his base form and Gala form.

I did a bit more digging, and we've also Gala Gatov... but his pronunciation is so foggy that it's remarkably hard to tell if he's saying 'Ray' 'Rel' or 'Ril', though I overall lean towards 'Rel' on a slowdown!

So... yeah. I guess it's ultimately up to you guys how you wanna say his name, because they sent mixed signals in English!

(As a bonus I'll just throw this other soundbite out here for any of you guys curious about how to say Vio Rhyse Alberia, since it's become a minor battle cry for the fandom in their grief)

Huh... you know, that might actually be a great place to meld into my final example!

'Vio Rhyse Alberia' is suggested once to mean 'Glory to Alberia'. Presumably, it's not just their modern language nor another real one, since we don't really see them bust out other similar phrases. Heck, even Audric's pronunciation here is a slight warp from the standard 'Al-beer-ia' with whatever little roll he's doing with the 'r' in there.

Specifically, it's likely 'Ancient Alberian', a language that Elisanne ID's as existing in ch.13, and one Phares is also likely able to read for him to be able to get the stuff it's written on up and working (+the fact he's specifically talented in 'ancient languages' plural).

This is... well, a big 'Hum' moment, in that while I cannot think of a way in which it makes sense, it's not as cut-and-dry as the others for 'this says x, this says y'.

If we're talking early Ilian church, specifically, this dates this machine to about 1k years ago, during the golden age of humanity and Ilia. It makes sense, since alchemy was also in its heyday then.

The thing is that Alberia just flat-out didn't exist until 300 years ago, until Alberius created it. With how similar 'Alberius' and 'Alberia' are in name, one might have presumed he named it after himself. But let's excuse that little bit, and just say it's a root that stems from earlier language in the same way humans are often named after objects even to this day.

It's still a bit confusing - this puts Ilia in a weird place to where she's fully comprehend-able to our modern crew and vice-versa despite seemingly speaking this different language. Ilia even seems to share a similar slang culture, with her joining the crew in occasionally butchering French on purpose (toot sweet in place of tout de suite). I might be tempted to excuse it like how English has developed, from a point where its written variety has greatly developed even when most of the words they were saying/writing are understandable, but this again is troubled by the existence of 'Vio Rhyse Alberia', a phrase that is clearly not a 'normal part' of their language.

This is giving me weird ideas where Ilia is speaking in this really ancient dialect that's just barely understandable to the modern day crew, kinda like how we can kinda piece out even some Old English or Latin with vocabulary even when it's written entirely differently. Take the good old people doing Old English covers of songs, where we see 'Irish-made' in a Pumped Up Kicks translation turned to 'Írisc-worht', which to me I can piece together 'Irish' from the first word and get reminded of 'wrought' from the second, which is a word that means, well, made from.

I digress. The best way I can really excuse the name is honestly a bit funny: that historians and all those scholars retroactively decided to call this language they (re)discovered 'Ancient Alberian' just because the land that they discovered it on or something is now Alberia, long enough before that the Church was able to pick it up again and start teaching kids it.

Alternatively, that there was a historical Alberia that Alberius stole the name from, that Euden would then go on to steal from Alberius when naming his own kingdom. "That's Alberia, this is Alberia, are there any more Alberias I should know about? Meow (says Leonidas' 'Alberia' reformed under his sovereignty)"

Sigh. Make of it what you will. But there's something funky going on in the linguistical history of Alberia here. The way I've personally decided to sweep it under the rug is treating them as spoken similarly enough for Alberius-Ilia-Euden to all mutually comprehend (Alberius additionally trapped in a cave and serving as a perfect time capsule of his language at the time), but the written form has warped far too much for any of them to understand each other. Still doesn't explain Vio Rhyse but hey, blame other lost language's influence or something and boom.

That's enough rambling on my end, however. If you've any other plot holes or lore failure checks, though, please let me know!

[satsuha]

hiya, hope you're doing well! i'm so excited to catch your store opening, i can't wait to spend all my money on DL stuff o7

just a quick question, what is the "6 greatwyrms set" of acryllic charms? is it just a typo, or have i forgotten one of the greatwyrms because it's been so long LOL

anyway, thanks for continuing to draw DL stuff two years after EoS. cheers, hope you take care!

hi! thank you so much for your support 🥺

and ahh yes that is a typo! i've fixed it now, but thank you so much for catching that for me! there is actually a 6th greatwyrm (chthonius) but he doesn't have a canon human form so he is not included here </3

i'm glad you enjoy my dragalia stuff! it's really fun for me to draw all the different characters, so i'd like to continue doing it for as long as i'm able!

[dragaliamini]

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I thought it was just a Mym rant comic about her not getting a cool human form Jupiter’s Delusion comic but it was actually a rant about Myriam and Alberius’s love story.

[halidom-confessions]

Still forever sad we never got OG Leonidas as a sword unit. He had such a cool design. Would have been great to have a Knight Valerio alt, too. And a humanoid Chthonius! They all live rent-free in my head with Alberius and Albert.

[vgame-dragons]

High Chthonius from Dragalia Lost

[incorrectdragalialost]

Chthonius: You have to kiss the cutest person in this room.

Alberius: Myriam?

Myriam: Yes?

Alberius: Move aside, I need to get to Mid.

[crownedflora]

𝐅𝐀𝐕𝐎𝐑𝐈𝐓𝐄 𝐂𝐇𝐀𝐑𝐀𝐂𝐓𝐄𝐑 𝐌𝐄𝐌𝐄  !

List your fav characters from 10 different fandoms and tag 10 people.

The actual contents are under read-more because of spoiler raisins and-and-and...!!! ...Wait, what was I saying? I legit spaced out and lost my- 

NO, WAIT, I ‘MEMBER NOW! Aside from the length of the post itself, the read-more is also dedicated to my absolutely mortifying behavior that’ll be involved in this post and regret including here later, probably. 

A Hat in Time - Badge Seller, C.A.W Agents, DJ Grooves, The Conductor, The Empress, The Snatcher, Walrus Captain, White Seal Crew 

Dota 2 - Aghanim, Auroth, Beatrix (GUN GRANDMA), Donté, Hoodwink, Mireska, Mortimer, Nerif, Raigor, Rubick, Valora, Zet Okay, me stop here for this one.

Dragalia Lost - Euden, Euden, Euden, Euden, Euden, and Euden. Oh, and did I mention Euden? yes henlo are there any Eudens out there that are interested in interacting with my botanical boy? Preferably ones that involve in-game events/character arcs and Dragalia Life comics (especially/specifically if the Euden finds my flower child cute) in their portrayals for serious, crack, fluff, angst, or anything in between (4th wall-breaking and meta/gameplay-based shenanigans and/or interactions may also likely apply). Monster lovers/[redacted] that happen to muse this (too) nice-and-friendly prince/king man, please DO apply. In spite of previous sentence, intimate platonic ship full of the aforementioned stuff is the main goal. ...For here at least. Anything beyond that is a HUMONGOUS bonus (how do I black out a portion of text on here like a spoiler mark/tag??? I feel so exposed even though I did this to myself. ohgoddon’tlookatme.  I SAID STOP IT!)!!! Anyway, time for the rest of the list: Akasha, Alberius, Albert, Aldred, Brunhilda (Pre-Euden mainly/only tbh. Shocking considering what’s been said, right?), Cat Sìth, Chelle, Chthonius, Ciella, Delphi, Epimetheus, Eugene, Grace, Ieyasu, Leif, Lowen, Mascula (I know I’m super late with this but my lack of access to [INSERT ACCOUNT/PLATFORM] on top of everything else means I can express it here now- YEEESSS!!! ADVENTURER MASCULA IS REAL!!!! EAT IT, NAYSAYERS! EAT. IT!!!! HedidcostmemoreofmystashthatstillneededtoberecoveredsinceIhadtosparkforhimtho. Cygames, PLEASE, HAVEMERCY!!!) , Meene, Melsa, Nedrick (yes henlo are ther), Nevin, Noelle, Notte, Odetta, Pele, Prometheus, Seimei, Silke, Siren, Tartarus (Bro, I finally get around to semi-consistently soloing you on Master difficulty and now I’m broke af from trying to MUB all the Light Agito weapons. I HAVE MORE POWER NOW BUT AT THE PRICE OF BEING POOR. HELP-) Yaten, Yoshitsune (GUN GRANDMA!), Zodiark- No, I’m sorry, even if it PAINS me to leave out plenty more names that are left to list here (-sniffle- I’m sorry my beloveds), I HAVE to stop there for DL.

Genshin Impact - Albedo, Aether/Traveler, Bennett, Chongyun, Dvalin, Klee, Madame Ping, Paimon, Qiqi, Rosaria, Scaramouche, Tartaglia, Venti, Zhongli

Hades - Asterius, Chaos, Charon, Demeter, Dusa, Eurydice, Hades, Hermes, Megaera, Nyx, Persephone, Skelly, Thanatos, Zagreus 

Overwatch (I forgot to buy all the now-cheaper old event skins I lacked before the Anni event ended nooooo-) - Ana (GUN GRAAANDMAAAAAA!!!!!), Bastion, Brigitte, Dae-hyun, Genji, Hammond, Hana, Jamison, Lena, Mako, Mei, Moira, Olivia, Orisa, Seung-hwa, Winston 

Shovel Knight - King Knight, (King Knight’s) Mom, Oolong, Plague Knight, Specter Knight, Treasure Knight

SINoALICE (so far) - Dullahan, Gretel, Pinnocchio, Sleeping Beauty

StarCraft (2) - Abathur, Alarak, Dehaka, Talandar, Tychus, Zagara, Zeratul

Team Fortress 2 (The current state of this and a majority of other Valve’s games/IPs saddens and infuriates me. Blizzard games/IPs, too. Ugh...) - Jeremy, Ludwig, Pauling, Pyro, Spy

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[archaicavail]

Another quick Chthonius video, but this time for solo! Also has a bit of Nihil skip. Enjoy!

[willofwinnie]

Humanoid Chthonius joins the party!

It's a shame Chthonius never got a humanoid form. What would he have looked like? My best guess is a knight-like design, taking his dragon form scales that look like armor as his actual armor. Maybe the inside of his cape can take on the aurora borealis-like coloration of his wings, which will add a lot of color to the design if I ever get around to doing a full color version.

I can imagine him wielding a sword like Alberius. Someone needs to have his back in up close combat! Mids already took the bow, and all the other human greatwyrms have what seems like everything but a sword (also no staff or wands, but ya know knights and swords fit better). Anyway, this was my take at a Human Chthonius!

[valeriefauxnom]

Random Thought Re. Bondforged Euden

So, Bondforged Euden was locked into Midgardsormr 0 for his shapeshift, as we all know (this is not a complaint, given Mid0's power!).

As such, he has one quote upon shapeshifting, which in English is,

Which is more or less verbatim from what I hear in JP, "Ikuzo, Midgardsormr!"

However, JP added an additional little tidbit to his whole shapeshift sequence. Specifically, when using Mids' skill in shapeshift, both Euden and Midgardsormr voice the line in complete unison.

That got me to thinking.

Is Bondforged Euden actually dracoshifting, instead of shapeshifting?

Now, I know it sounds like I'm throwing out words here, but yes, this was a concept in Dragalia, and I don't blame you if it doesn't exactly sound familiar.

We technically see it twice, as it is the explanation for how Alberius and Chthonius merged and stayed merged for so long, and it also serves as a way to amp up Leonidas.

While details are... spare (to put it mildly), aside from that, I think the implication of the notion of the 'dracoshift' is that it's more of a merge between the two for a time than just the human yoinking the form of their dragon for a bit.

That being said, I wonder if that's actually what's happening upon Bondforged Euden's shift, since the skill itself is called 'United Tempest' and the Japanese version has the both of them outright vocalizing together.

Pushing it one step further, I then would like to say that his regular attacks and skills are just regular shapeshifts, which is another wild thing. I've gone over the subtle evidence before that the whole pacting process and shifting isn't easy, and can be dangerous, but that just goes to show how far Euden has come, that he's constantly dipping in and out of a shapeshifted form just to make his attacks that much harder to resist/predict.

And then, when you factor in the fact that when he actually 'shapeshifts' he's really just taking it one step further to literally meld with Mids for a while, the fact that he has the energy at all to do any of that... It goes to show just how much stronger he is.

Interestingly, as a last thought I had on it, it's actually a gradual progression that was demonstrated through his other alts.

Most of the time, we see base Euden just shift once. Gala Euden starts mixing it up and sometimes shifts sequentially without even taking a breather between forms, as seen in his own story and in The Blood That Binds. And then we come to Bondforged, who is throwing out shapeshifts left and right and also finding the time and energy to merge with Mids quite a bit, since he's a very dragon-heavy user.

Kinda nuts, when you think of it that way!

[kakarikoherald]

Dragalia Lost - May 12th Content Update

New event stuff is being added.

Looks like there’s a new content update focused on the latest event:

[Events] The following Events are now live: Double drops and half-stamina event for certain main campaign chapters (available until May 19th)

[Event Quests] The Trials of the Mighty featuring Chthonius are now live (available until May 19th)

And that’s it! Not that big of a content update, but still an update nonetheless!

[halidom-confessions]

Manifesting humanoid Zodiark and humanoid Chthonius soon!! I bet they’ll be really handsome

[dragalialore]

The Journey Begins

The first chapter of Dragalia Lost’s story introduces us to the world of Grastaea, where dragons roam and coexist peacefully with humans... for the most part. This chapter sees Euden bonding with his first dragon, as well as finding several allies who eventually swear fealty to him and his cause.

In the Alberian royal family, one must first forge a pact with a dragon before they can be granted a place in the royal succession. Euden, the seventh scion, has refused to make a pact with a dragon up until now in order to avoid conflict with his older siblings. However, King Aurelius summons his son and requests him to forge a pact with the Windwyrm, a feat none have managed since the founder of the kingdom. For the sake of the people of Alberia, Euden agrees and sets off for the Windwyrm’s home, a forest known as the Mistholt.

Accompanied by his twin sister, Zethia, and friendly faerie Notte, Euden makes for the Mistholt and fights his way through hordes of fiends. However, they are confronted by a masked woman who is determined to prevent Euden from making a dragonpact. Cornered, Euden calls to the Windwyrm, who answers him in kind and lends him his power. Euden shapeshifts and defeats the fiends the masked woman summons, striking her in the process. As her mask falls away, she is revealed to look exactly like Zethia. She vanishes into thin air, and the Windwyrm commands Euden to travel deeper into the Mistholt to prove his worth.

As they travel, Euden and Zethia encounter a Paladyn battling an assassin, and step in to aid her. The Paladyn introduces herself as Elisanne, though she doesn’t explain why an assassin was after her. They are also joined by Ranzal, a mercenary who tests their might. After Euden proves his worth, Ranzal guides the party through the Mistholt, where they eventually find the Windwyrm. Euden defeats the Windwyrm, who willingly cedes his power and introduces himself as Midgardsormr. He also introduces the party to Cleo, a mysterious sylvan who has lived in the woods for an unknown amount of years. Cleo leads them deeper into the wood.

As they travel, Notte brings up the topic of Alberius, the king who originally founded the land of Alberia. Cleo explains that Alberius was the only known human to forge pacts with multiple dragons, and that he led the Greatwyrms (Midgardsormr, Mercury, Brunhilda, Jupiter, Zodiark, and Chthonius) in battle against the Dyrenell Empire, an empire that worshipped demons and resurrected a particularly nasty one. In what became known as the Second War of Binding, Alberius sealed the demon away once more. Notte wonders about the First War of Binding, and Cleo explains that particular war took place in the age of myth, when the goddess Ilia and the dragon Elysium first sealed the demon. Cleo mentions that Alberius performed a ritual known as the Blood Casket, but nobody knows more than that.

Upon reaching the thickest part of the mist, Euden steps in and the mist dissipates, revealing the Sacred Shard Euden has been searching for. Just as they reach for it, however, King Aurelius appears, eyes glowing an unnerving red. Aurelius attacks the party, rendering them all prone in seconds and demanding Zethia, the Auspex, come with him. Desperate, Zethia prays to Ilia for help, and Euden shapeshifts into an unknown dragon, whom Aurelius calls Elysium. Unfortunately, he cannot hold the power, and in the end Zethia agrees to go with Aurelius and takes the Shard with her. They disappear, leaving Euden and the party. Cleo points the way towards the Halidom, the castle Alberius made his home base, and the party agrees to rest and prepare to chase after Aurelius and Zethia.

[incorrectdragalialost]

Cleo after having to mercy kill her former master: Well, I'm probably scarred for life.

Chthonius, who for some fucking reason didn't actually die: Yeah, that was pretty crazy.

[princeshroob]

Like I said before, I’m prioritizing Ilia over Gala Zena because I have never fallen in love so quickly with a character in Dragalia Lost before (Odetta was more of a slow burn for me, but she’s still top tier imo) and omg I am absolutely surprised that Ilia has dual res like most other Gala adventurers but isn’t Gala herself. The only other character like this without a spiral is Templar Hope, and that’s across two skills rather than one. But anyways, despite prioritizing Ilia, that doesn’t mean I’m gonna skip this banner. I’m just gonna make sure I still have enough to spark Ilia (and given that her banner lasts seven days, that means I need 230 summons-worth of resources)

First off holy crap I got Gala Luca. Like, when I saw that blade drop down, I thought “welp, that could be gala luca, but there’s no way that’s him” and my pessimism was swiftly proven wrong, lol. :P

Next up is a dupe Chthonius, so he’s 2UB now, solely from copies. I could probably MUB him from the essences, but eh, not much point since I have Cat Sith.

Next up is Mid 0. From what I hear, he’s essentially a better Vayu. Which, ironically enough, I summoned two Vayus on this banner (He’s MUB, so no screenshots for him) so he’s apparently desperate to keep Mid 0 unMUB’d. Which is useless because I don’t plan on MUBing Mid 0 anyways since he’s not a Gala Dragon, but oh well.

...why are you here? why the everloving fudge are you here? I WOULD FREAKING PREFER A GLEO DUPE OVER YOU, YOU MONSTROUS ABOMINATION seriously when am I gonna lay off of her?

Incidentally I did get a Gleo dupe, but that’s irrelevant.

Next up I got Meene. Well, at least I’ll have the entire family eventually. idk how good she actually is at this point, especially compared to Hawk who is completely bonkers, but I’d still probably prefer building Meene over Hawk based on my own preferences anyways.

And...I fudged up and skipped, but I got Gala Zena on literally the last possible tenfold I felt comfortable doing! Yes, to all you math nuts out there, I know I’m under the 230 summon threshold there, but I’m getting 1000 wyrmite from the anniversary login bonus tomorrow, not to mention I still have a few summon vouchers, so I’m still in range of sparking on the banner that comes tomorrow. I’d just need to wait until the last day if it comes to that. Anyways, this means that I am finally back to having every single Gala-exclusive that was released, so that’s great! (even though one of them I’m rather lukewarm on)