#helluva boss and hazbin hotel are overhated

[belphiegore]

I’m gonna be totally honest here. I don’t get the hate that Helluva Boss gets. Yes it’s flawed and it has some writing problems and maybe the character design isn’t to your liking, but when has that EVER stopped anyone from enjoying a piece of media?

Anime is very stylized with unrealistic body proportions, and crazy colors and weird character design, think marvel and dc (a mix of well handled and badly handled characters, drama, and topics, plus flamboyant costume designs) literally any popular book series or dating games (difficulty juggling many characters, writing issues, some toxic romances). This stuff isn’t meant to be perfect, it’s meant to be enjoyed. I’d definitely prefer for all creators to put their best effort into works, but that isn’t always gonna happen. So I’ll complain a bit. Some stuff is gonna be a bit flawed, but as long as it’s not promoting crazy stuff then it’s nothing but a minor annoyance for me to occasionally critique. But not something to hate and dunk on over and over and over and over… and over…

And the hate towards the ships… it’s dumb in my opinion. “Stolitz is TOXIC and Fizzmodeus is bad” Okay and? I honestly don’t care that much. At least they’re interesting. It’s not as big of a deal people are making it out to be. It’s not like it’s promoting these kinds of relationships in real life. The only ship I have a problem with is a haggis because it was written blandly and kind of boring. For one, it’s hell and these characters clearly have issues that they are eventually supposed to work through. They’re relationship is gonna be very flawed. In any case, since when has fandom culture cared if a fun little gay ship is a bit toxic? As long as it isn’t abuse or SA. That’s the problem many toxic fictional romances have (especially straight ones), instead of being ~toxic~ with flavor, (something most of of us acknowledge wouldn’t work in the real world) it’s toxic with physical and emotional abuse and SA-type possessiveness. That’s the difference between something like your typical Booktok romance and Stolitz. I thought “we” the fandom liked toxic yaoi? I don’t understand you people, I feel like everyone just likes to jump on the bandwagon of hating Vivziepop stuff instead of just mildly critiquing it.

[sprinkleonthatcriticism]

As someone who is hated nitpicking i personally don't really liked when someone reviewing hazbin hotel and helluva boss as this irredemable show where they only bad thing to say about it. Like that video Made by black YouTuber who talk about Helluva boss have the worst writing, personally i disagree but he still allowed or entitled to his own opinion. I looking for more something in between when it comes to the criticism not overpraising neither overhated it

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[gameguy20100]

Hazbin hotel helluva boss miraculous Ladybug i found them to be generic however i won't exactly consider them to be the worst media or the creator to be the most problematic person. I think they get overhate because the criticism same as hazbin hotel and helluva boss it's too much not being balance enough with the positive thing

People seem to think being extremely negative about stuff makes them smart for some reason.

I'll never understand it.

[l3m-ns00da]

Just finished watching hazbin hotel episode 1-4 and here are my thoughts,

More interested in this than helluva boss (just in the fandom for fizzarolli tbh)

uhmm still love sir pentious, my stupid wet cat<3 also love Vox and Alastor, what a pathetic man-tv and full of himself prick deer. Lol. Wasn't into husk at first in the pilot but fuck, he's a great character, I need more

Music carries, "stayed gone" and "loser, baby" best songs fr. "Respectless" is close.

episode 4, it's great. Someone needs to explain the romanticizing of angel's trauma part to me because I don't get it and I don't normally go to this kinds of things to automatically know what is romanticized and what's not

Good show, overhated, and actual criticisms to it is valid👍

[sprinkleonthatcriticism]

When i becoming defensive of helluva boss and hazbin hotel when people overhate them especially toward vivziepop. Like yes this shows is poorly written and creator is insufferable but please please don't pretend like even in Good media they send very toxic and damaging messages

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