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nyxelestia · 8 years ago

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Inattention, hyperactivity and impuslivity are just a few symptoms of ADHD and guess what? Stiles does not only take Adderal because of it but he showcased all the symptoms in canon. But ofc according to ur logic (or lack of thereof) it's perfectly safe to assume that a mentally illed character or real person takes a specific medication simply because he likes its taste and their parents let them because teenagers using adderal without prescription makes perfectly sense right? Reach harder! >:)

Judging by your bitter, ableist posts, YOU are the one who can't stand Scott not being canonically as brilliant and smart as Lydia, Stiles, Derek or *insert TW character name*. Like, how bitter can you be to ignore canon and claim that a fictional mentally illed character who suffers from ADHD and takes Adderal under medical prescription - otherwise his father and teachers and counselor would NEVER let him - does not have any mental illnes despite the show and the writers proving otherwise?

stop erasing canon and teen wolf portraying stiles as a mentally illed character who has to take actual medications just because you can't stand scott not being a special snowflake. why should people ignore stiles' mentall illness? lol you seem perfectly fine fetishizing abuse and painting scott as a poor abuse victim despite literally nothing in canon suggesting that except his father accidentally pushing him down the stairs once - something scott doesn't even remember in the show btw. >:)

Of course Stiles is not the only smart person in the show. Lydia, Derek, Peter, Cora, Mason, Allison, Kira, Malia... They are all brilliant and incredibly intelligent according to canon. You are the one who keeps desperately trying to put Scott 'hard working average student at best' Mccall into the same category as them. There's no really need to force other characters' canon traits, abilities and mentall illness onto Scott in order for him to be more interesting, ya know? Chill

You still haven't actually told me what scenes show Stiles' amazing grades. Nor have you come up with a reasonable explanation for all the times Stiles had to have basic things explained to him. Nor have you come up with an explanation for Scott's good grades and periods of academic excellence in the later periods of the show, or come up with an explanation for why Melissa was so confused and shocked that Scott was falling behind at school.

Nor have you actually explained how my argument is in any way invalidated by Stiles having ADHD, given its central point is that whether or not Stiles had ADHD is largely irrelevant. Maybe Stiles has ADHD, maybe he doesn't. Maybe that Adderall was his, maybe he bought it off of someone else.

It does not matter.

That was the entire point of the post. ADHD (a learning disability, by the way, not a mental illness) doesn't magically make someone smarter. Having good grades doesn't mean you're smart, nor does having bad grades mean you're dumb. Some of the smartest kids I've ever tutored had shitty grades because they could never remember their homework, or couldn't keep their attention on their exams in class, or kept getting kicked out of class for being "too disruptive". Are you going to claim that any kid who has low grades is an idiot, even if they have a learning disability?

(Also, seriously, Stiles hid the existence of the supernatural world from his father for half a year and you think he can't hide some Adderall? The teachers don't even know that some of their kids aren't human and are regularly involved in mass murder plots, how hard do you think it is to hide drugs from them?)

And I think you may actually be mixing me up with someone else, because I never once tried to imply Scott has a learning disability of any kind. I honestly am just baffled as to where you got that idea. Presumably, the same place where you think I'm the one making Scott a "special snowflake" when you're the one who is cowardly hiding behind anon to clog my inbox with messages denigrating him and implying he's the only "dumb" person the show. (Which is particularly confounding since you appear to subscribe to the notion that grades are actually an accurate measure of intelligence. So presumably all the smart kids who have low grades because they have ADHD are actually idiots? I guess that's why even though Malia has to go to summer school to graduate high school, Scott is the special "dumb" snowflake?)

I'm not calling anyone a special snowflake. Literally the entire point of my meta is, "different people are intelligent in different ways, so let's stop calling one character stupid just to make another one look smarter". You're the one who took this as an attack on one of the characters.

You're the one who took "grades don't really have much to do with intelligence" as an attack on learning disabilities. You're the one who is in my inbox calling learning disabilities "mental illness". You're the one who...actually, I don't know what the fuck kind of mental gymnastics you did to keep coming back to the issue of prescription legality when I pointed out that Stiles could be illegally buying the Adderall he mentioned once (and only once) in the show.

You're using "ableism" as a convenient buzzword, but you fucked up big time in using this argument on someone for whom mental illness and learning disability are not just buzzwords I get to forget about when I get off Tumblr. They are a reality of my brain, my background, and my life.

You don't actually care about learning disabilities. You don't actually care about students with learning disabilities. You don't actually care about students with ADHD.

You don't actually care about students who struggle in school - because of learning disabilities, because of problems at home, or just because they need time to study, and that's time they don't have.

All you care about is making Stiles look better than everyone else - and the only way you can do that is by making Scott look worse.

Think about this for a minute.

Think about the implications of your argument, when you accuse me of ableism because I posit that these characters have different intelligences, and that one form of intelligence is not inherently “smarter” than the other. Think about the implications of your argument that you interpreted "grades and intelligence aren't correlated" as an attack on learning disabilities. Think about the implications of your argument when you try to claim that the fact Scott takes the time to study for his class is me "forcing a mental illness onto him".

Think about the implications of your statement when you imply that a student needing to study for a class makes them "dumb".

The entire point of your argument only makes sense if you assume that grades are an accurate measure of intelligence, and thus suggesting someone has low grades is akin to calling them an idiot. Does this mean all the smart kids who have low grades because of learning disabilities are actually dumb?

As a neurodivergent adult with ADHD, as the daughter of a teacher who partially specialized in special needs children, and as a tutor to a multitude of incredibly bright students who struggled because of learning disabilities (and mental illnesses, after school obligations, and problems at home), I have zero patience for this kind of bullshit.

I'm temporarily disabling anon, but my Messenger is still open. If you honestly believe that I was being ableist, if you can actually point to my posts to support even half your claims about my statements, then come talk to me in a private space under your own name. I'm perfectly fine discussing this when I've calmed down, and if you can convince me that something I've said is actually insulting to students with learning disabilities, then I'll happily apologize on my blog, in public, and admit I said something wrong.

But given that you sent me all of this anonymously, I rather doubt that's going to happen.

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