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#its just that homestuck fans are sometimes stupid
exaltior-a · 1 year
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Personally the amount of people who are either "Jake is a stupid himbo" or "Jake is actively malicious" blow my mind. No, Jake isn't stupid, and he's not evil. He's a sixteen year old who is implied to have a mental disability and/or brain damage (it's not exactly clear, Caliborn claims they have the same developmental disorder and Dirk iirc worries that Jake hit his head too much, I guess you can take either with a grain of salt but I digress), and has not had meaningful real life interactions with other human beings in years. He is in the wrong for his actions, but it feels. Purposefully ignorant to claim he's just stupid or just evil for them.
He's socially stunted. He wants to emulate heroes in movies but lacks self esteem and experience. If the alpha kids had enough time to be more fleshed out (and let's be real, if Hussie cared about Jake) this might have been explored more thoroughly. He'd never had the opportunity to learn how to cope with a relationship, how to communicate his needs, or understand that he can't control how other people perceive him like he can through a computer screen.
He doesn't know healthy boundaries because he's never had to use them, and this goes both ways (allowing his friends to sexualise him and treat him like an object, as well as constantly complaining about his relationship with Dirk to Jane) Like yeah he does run away instead of communicating with Dirk and yeah he does dump all his problems on Jane. I love Jane, but one of her problems is her bottling up her feelings and people pleasing until everything blows up. She should have told him off much sooner, and while he was being a dick, it was partly because she allowed him to feel like it was okay to do, since she never told him it wasn't after the first few times or when she was starting to get aggravated.
His problems with Dirk are a little more complicated because we're never actually shown their relationship or how it broke down, but from what we can gather, Jake felt overwhelmed by Dirk's intensity and decided to ignore him rather than tell him try and avoid confrontation but leading to Dirk being frustrated and breaking up with him. Dirk claims he feels like he bullied Jake into a relationship, and though I personally think that's him making it seem worse than it was, it does mean that Dirk probably was trying to go too fast. I've best heard it is Jake being an introvert pretending to be an extrovert.
This is not to say I don't think people can't dislike or even hate Jake, but it's like. Idk. Misinterpreting a character and disliking that version of them is a little redundant to me.
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cheetour · 1 month
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The Void Within's dialogue is sloppy to the point of not being fully literate*.
It's been noticed that the rough sketches and the final artwork don't match up in quality, and seem to be declining as the plot goes on. The same is happening to the writing.
This is, I am sorry, a post about the latest major Neopets update. Not only that, it's about the GRAMMAR in the dialogue for that update. Riveting.
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I SWEAR I AM NOT JUST A PEDANTIC ASSHOLE, I GENUINELY WANT USERS TO KNOW THERE'S AN ISSUE!
Most people who complain about "incorrect" grammar in games and comics are wrong. Homestuck, Night in the Woods, We Know the Devil, and Captain Underpants all have fine grammar, just stylized.
I really, really, really like The Void Within. I think it's a fantastic idea, and I am determined to enjoy it as much as possible.
I am a professional editor. Noticing this stuff is my job.
Now, PLEASE bear that in mind when I say:
tl;dr: Neopets is asking you to pay money to a product that does not meet the quality standards of a primary school English test for ages 10+.
*I don't mean to use "not literate" as a stand-in for "stupid and bad at writing." Literacy is very complicated, illiteracy is more common than you think, and there is no shame in being illiterate - you can be very intelligent and also have no written or digital literacy. I mean the literal "not able to use written language to its fullest extent".
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It's clear whoever wrote the dialogue didn't have a perfect grasp of English punctuation. AND THAT'S FINE. Good writers don't always have good grammar, and you DON'T need fluent English to write good stories in English.
That's why writing, proofreading, and editing are all separate professions, and why a well-run creative project delegates those roles to separate people. They still matter.
People are more likely to notice grammar mistakes the more they read books. Correctly formatted English is how older, less online, and disabled people with visual or linguistic processing difficulties read. Text-to-speech doesn't work correctly on writing without correct punctuation. These are serious professional standards, and they exist for a reason. They're not worthless just because you don't understand them.
A good-quality publisher of books, comics, or video games wouldn't release dialogue like this to a paying audience. They would consider this standard unacceptable. They'd either use correct grammar, or stylized grammar. (Inconsistent grammar, with no logical or narrative rules, isn't a style. They're not choices if you don't know you're making them. They're mistakes.)
To an extent this is nitpicking, and most people wouldn't notice this stuff.
But Neopets is MAKING MONEY. They are SELLING PRODUCTS for this. They have MULTIPLE PHASES of NC Market sales for this plot.
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As an educator, there is no way I could show this (perfectly kid-friendly) comic to a classroom of children - it would have no educational value. It's not written correctly or with any obvious care. If they paid attention to it too much, they'd get the wrong idea about the English language!
I think it's fair to say that if you're publishing an official Neopets story, and you want Neopets to be a kid-friendly, fan-driven, story-based brand with a target audience wider than "people who don't really care about whether stories are professionally written", the script should've been proofread.
To give you an idea of how many typos Chapter 3 has, here's one of the dialogue pages with the missing punctuation added; I also took 5 minutes to rewrite each line for coherency.
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And THIS is a website showing you at what points in primary eduation we teach children to use commas correcty:
Art is hard. Programming is hard. Hell, good writing is hard. It's HARD coming up with dialogue and a plot that people actually want to experience.
Grammar is boring and sometimes pointless. It's not difficult. It requires only basic literacy. Children learn how to use commas at ages seven and up.
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If you don't care about the story you're telling enough to check that it would get a good grade on a child's school test, how can you possibly expect anyone to pay for it? You need specialist skills to code a website or create a high-quality digital graphic, but the only thing you need to get this right is... one literate adult who cares enough to try.
So where are they?
**There is no shame in being illiterate, but there is CERTAINLY shame in selling illiterate writing.
tl;dr: Neopets is asking you to pay money to a product that does not meet the quality standards of a primary school English test for ages 10+.
Finally, here are some browser petsites/RPGs who have never prompted me to write an 800 word critique:
Fallen London
Pixel Cat's End
Lioden
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An example of "if someone writes a shitty person being a shitty person, even if they are an entirely fictional character and creation, that means the writer must condone every shitty action they take!" And this mentality needs to just die already.
Example Is probably Vriska Serket.
What I mean is the Tavros and Vriska incidents. And how I used to see people discuss these two.
Lemme explain.
Basically, I used to see people who havent read homestuck in maybe months or years, blanket statement criticize Homestuck for "using slurs" and "having ableism". Never express or explain the context of the ableism or where the slurs are, they cant even sometimes point to examples. But hold it up as a point against Homestuck as an entire piece of Media entirely. Almost as if it really was just "the times, so humour was different." Aka, as if the usage pf these things were just something INHERENTLY CONDONED BY THE COMIC, always. No matter what. its just "for funnies."
Vriska doing what she did to Tavros for instance. Vriska Serket, a character youre NOT supposed to even be agreeing with, be condoning the actions of, and actually set up to be unlikable on purpose and a massive bitch. We see this in basically everything from her intro to snippets of her before it. You are not meant to enjoy or agree with what Vriska Serket does. And what she does in canon, is Tosses Tavros out of his wheel chair and tells him basically to just stop being a cripple.
Caliborn is also a very strong contender cause hes homophobic, sexist as hell and a complete asshole. Thats also entirely on purpose and you arent meant to like him or agree with him whatsoever. Its made VERY CLEAR you are not meant to condone his actions or his supporters. They are murderers and people who do very dark things for him. Hes based on irrationally stupid rage bait "haters" of homestuck who are just fans who act like they hate it, but are obsessed with it anyways. This was intentional on Hussies part. You are NOT supposed to condone his actions. Hes meant to be absurd.
These characters are ASSHOLES. this was the POINT. of these characters being this way. They are going to be ASSHOLES.
But a lot of people saying "theres [problematic thing] , so the comic is bad." wont actually tell you why theres ableism. or WHERE theres ableism. They just say "theres problamtic stuff in there" and a lot of newer fans tend to just copy and paste the sentiment and dont even think about it twice and run with the idea its all just mocking disabled people or something inherently with it and how its all the messaging hussie was trying to send.
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haedcanoms ..... fro anyome yuo can thimkdj of 🙏🙏🙏🙏💥💯💯
this is gonna be. a big block of text. uve enabled me and now im gonna talk for forever. uh. :3333 (also a shit ton of my hcs are just me projecring shjt so.)
okayyyy uh. dave went to private school for like. 4 years. he didnt follow any rules and wouldve definitly gotten expelled ljke 2 weeks in but bro strider is. so fucking rich so he just payed to keep him kn. he still had to wear those stupid ass uniforms tho and now he absolutely hates wearing polo shirts. fuckinf despises them.
sollux??? massive h*r fan he makes a shit ton of uber obscure references that like no one gets but him and he makes liek anyone hes ever had a positive interaction with watch it. aradia also likes it bc he made it like impossible not to if youre close enough to him. he kinda got terezi in2 it and she really likes trogdor.ike REALLY likes trogdor.
speaking of aradia and sollux aradias like a massive goth music fan and they listen to that stuff together like all the time. he listens to more,,, mainstream ig stuff regularly but then aradia makes him listen to her entire collection whenever theyre together
Jane can speak french,,, shes not french or anything in thr SLIGHTEST but she learned it bc like. idk desserts are french sometimes. and she just randomly starts speaking french to be annoying n fuck with ppl. roxys learned a little bit from her so sometimes she does too but. rarely.
terezi sollux and feferi friendship 🙏🙏 thsyre so. important to me. i dont remember how much they imteract all together in canom ik jts at least once but... theyre literally a version of the primary colors please thsyrs so friedn group that youd think would hate eachother but they surprisingly dont
jane crochets also alongside baking. she makes people shit like. all the time and probably spends way too much on yarn. she does it while watching all those dumb sitcoms??? whatever theyte called (like parks and rec and arrwsted development and the good place. that stuff). she also sometimes hamgs out with rose and they crochet/knit together
dirk and roxy make like the most shitpost stupid meme references (more often roxy) and like no one else gets them or rreally finds them funny bc theyre all from like. 2009. or ehatever while roxy n dirk are from. the future (i forgot when and no im not lokking jt up) roxy especially has like. dumb tumblr humor and will say the weirdest shit and no one will get it except dirk
feferi sends sollux videos like "t)(is reely reminds me of you ♥️" and then its a 5 minute jerma laighing at car crashes compilation or some shit.
dave makes that type of music that either sounds like actual shit or really good depending on the person. like uber expirimental fucked up random sfx dumbest lyrics ever etc etc (idk how to describe it but like. if uve listened to like.... queef jerkey thats what im imagining)
if were imagining that quest for the missing spoon exists in homestuck (since the comics do, plus theres other stuff like movies and plushes) dirk definityly had the pepsi blue chilis centerfold cutout on his wall. i also think him and maybe roxy??? quote that shit like not even on purpose CONSTANTLY since it was such a big franchise. also i think itd be funny if people talked ab it like how they talk ab harry potter and shit like "oh my god im SUCH a geromy."
aradia plays cello. like this absolutely fucking massive one too thats like deep reddish wood and its heavy as hell and it shouldnt be feesibly possible for her to carry it around but she can skmehos??? and shes really fucking good too. she likes 2 play for fer friends n partners
feferi adores tmbg esp their earlier stuff but she likes it all. shes got a playlist of every single one of their songs she could get ahold of and badically only listesns to that one playlist. she also knows a shit ton about the band itself and knows fun facts about like every song and will NOT hesitate to infodump whenever something slightly related comes up in conversation.
sollux LOVES classic tetris hes extremely fucking good at it and knows how to do all the weird shit w/ the controller like hypertapping and rolling and honestly probably made up something new. he basically only plays past killscreen (he found an nes somehow and hacked jt to let him start anywhere) and is the type of guy to be like "Oh yeah thii2 2hiit2 ea2y here II'll giive you a begiinner level two." and then. start you at level 29.
i have more i think but i cant remember any besides like "__ is a fan of "__ !!!!!" bc i just live projecting my interests onto characters. again sorry for so many words um. 💔
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38gayrats · 2 months
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HomesTUCK OCSS PARTTT 4
Ganari Tilmin (she/they)
A purple blood, highest of the land dwellers. When she was younger, she was a BIG fan of being born 'better then the rest' with an awesome losus to match. But then they saw "Him." Friefa F%%%%%G Skagit. With its STUPID VIOLET BLOOD and his STUPID FLYING WHALE. And on top of that... IT DOESN'T EVEN USE ITS NOBILITY TO GET WHAT HE WANTS!! He's completely self made!! It and it's DUMB F%%%%%G FLYING WHALE RAHHHHHHHHHHH. They (Ganari) couldn't bare to see him gallivanting around on his awesome pirate ship with its cool friends... Ganari had seen enough. The first time Friefa set foot on dry land, she was there, ripping clean through its left arm, followed by his leg. They thought about going for the eye too, but with the whole pirate thing, y'know...
She had always been bad at expressing their feelings. In reality, they wanted nothing more then to be in a happy(?) hate-lationship with Friefa. But She knew Friefa wouldn't feel the same unless she did something drastic. In the end, it worked, but at what cost... (Of course, that's her side of the story. Friefa got over it fairly quickly all things considered. Godyar had actually told them.to make robotic limbs in preparation for an 'accident.' When asked what kind, Godyar shrugged and said "clearly a bad one.")
She is, effectively, the Eridan of the story. (At least for a bit.) She thinks their better then the rest, and lashes out at the people they care about instead of just talking about it. They also later come to deeply regret what she did (after a while, mind you)
((later in the story (if I ever end up writing it fully) Friefa and Ganari talk things through with Rattie as the mediator. The two of them end up in a mutual grey pairing, while also 'dating' Ratting in the pale and flushed quadrant. Both Friefa and Ganari have feelings for her. Friefa's are flushed, Ganari's are pale. Troll relationships are weird but at least the polycule isn't in shambles anymore))
Okay jegus that was a mouthful what's next...
They have the 'Cards Deck,' all items picked up are placed into a deck that is then shuffled. It is shuffled once for every item stored, up to a full deck of cards (duplicates stack as long as their the exact same.) She then picks a card at random, getting whatever item is picked. She's not all that religious, even if she is a purple blood,.but that doesn't mean she doesn't believe in... Miracles.
Her losus practically wasn't even hers. It would slink off for days, sometimes weeks, without telling them. After a 2 month absence, in a fit of rage they killed their losus. Instantly regretting it, she looks for ways to revive it. That's when she sends a copy of a weird game to Friefa to reprogram... (The game is sburb obvi) (also if I ever end up writing it she gets to reconnect with her losus don't worryyy)
Uses the strife specibus 'FlailKind' weilding at first a spiked steel ball on a foot or two of chain attached to a handle, and then later an upgraded version.
A derse dreamer and 'Heir of Rage,' able to become rage itself, entering a frenzied state. Can also receive their friends rage, powering her up and causing a similar effect.
I figure this fits cuz purple bloods are... Rage filled. (Cough Gamzee cough) but instead of provoking or corrupting rage like a bard such as Gamzee would, an Heir would 'receive' 'conduct' and 'become' their aspect. Also rage is 'defiance' like with her losus, 'Rejection' which she felt after realizing she was disliked for being "better" then other trolls (she would later change this opinion after a looooooottttt of self reflection. She only thinks their a smidgen better then the rest hehe), and obviously 'aggression.' That ones a no brainer.
They like painting, reading, and (secretly) playing video games. (Literally everyone knows though.) Plays the piano/keyboard.
Their handle is 'RegalArtisan'
Her typing quirk is "As follows. A regAl And pristine mAnner of speech for A-" sees Friefa "OH HEY F#CKLENUTS, YOU NEED SOME HELP GETTING YOUR HEaD OUT OF YOUR OWN a##!?!?"
She switches between all capital 'a's when talking normally, to all lowercase 'a's when yelling. They also usually self censor
"#@! °π|¥ w#€π ¥°u @dm!t ¥°u |!<€ #@πg|πg °ut w!t# m€!!"
Relationships
Pale ♦ Rattie
Flushed ♥ none rn
Grey ♠ Friefa
Black ♣ none rn
Normal friends 👥 all the others
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nonbinarygamzee · 11 months
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As a supposed "new fan," I'd love to know the history of how the fandom reacted to Gamzee fans circa 2013. Who were the big pushers of that hatred towards them that weren't just Hussie (perhaps BNFs and friend-writers-employees of hers)?
sorry god himself could not make me invite that kind of discussion onto this blog <3 i dont think its relevant nowadays Who was pushing it unless you were there. as far as like climate at large though, early homestuck fandom had very very heavily bought in to hussies persona of smartest guy you know whos bigoted writing was totally actually intentional tongue in cheek injections you were supposed to read as ironic. which like sure they certainly Tried to do that sometimes and we can argue back and forth all day about the validity of "ironic" bigotry and whether it is comparable to "genuine" bigotry, who is allowed to say what, whatever. but it created a space where genuine critique, especially critique that was focused on social issues ESPECIALLY any social issues that could be linked to the accursed SJWs sweeping the internet with their extremist inclusionism, was discouraged and the method was largely to insist people were actually too stupid or bad faith to Get homestuck. been called a bad survivor sooo many a times in this space for caring about the irredeemable clown. that mixed with both that ever present self aggrandizing intellectualism hussie oozed + presented as the goal within this fandom, and ofc with his own insertion Into that fandom as its creator ended up building just an extremely shitty parasocial climate full of people that cared a lot more about dunks and being "right" (as decided by hussies characterizations and what he openly mocked) than they did about like.... not opening people who wanted to have conversations they did not like up to harassment. im not saying its an entirely alien space compared to the general hierarchical nature of fandomspace, but that level of interference from an author who was also very invested in seeming very cool and smart and unaffected at the expense of the crazy emotional freaks he could scapegoat to further that image AND avoid accountability for his writing decisions just.... sucked! ok im tired and theres always manylayers to this, idk if that was clear tldr it doesnt matter much anymore i just wish we fuckin learned something!
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eridude · 11 months
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For ship bingo - Eridan/Nepeta (particularly <3<) or PBJ (Tavros/Gamzee)?
GAMTAV/PBJ:
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as far as classic homestuck 2012 ships go, these two are essentially the kings of it. i'm a big old gamtav fan, out of all the pairings with either of these characters i think this one is my favorite! i think they're extremely silly and stupid together and boys who are silly and stupid together fucking STAY together. the fluff potential with these two is insane you guys. tavros is a guy who really deserves some love. and gamzee is just so unabashedly fond of him. it will forever make me sad that they never got to just. be boyfriends. it makes me wonder how murderstuck would have gone if tavros didn't die :P
this is another character combo that i think would have an absolutely batshit insane living space. yeah sure come to gamzee and tavros's house and its an absolutely chaos disaster. disemboweled plushies from games of fidusspawn? check. floor littered with faygo bottles and random horns? check. why yes that is a unicycle leaning against the wall. wall covered in fairy posters? yep. karkat comes over to visit sometimes and is always absolutely appalled.
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well. its 3:30 am and i've finished the entirety of homestuck once again. this is the first time ive read the comic in its entirety since act 7 was released, and honestly?
i have a lot less gripes with it than i did the first time around. i see a lot of the story on a broader scale now, and i can better appreciate the stupid bullshit it does sometimes as...probably just intentional. and i can appreciate that as a writing technique. something that seems frustrating and pointless on the surface actually having layers of symbolic and thematic meaning, despite the ironic detachment and scorn the comic itself has for the concept of such an analysis.
it didnt ever stop feeling like homestuck, at least, which was my main fear when i had to read events after [s] game over. it was primarily executed with character dialogue, with hardly any narration or pauses in between, but i found that that worked with what we were presented with. heres all our characters at the endgame, go nuts with reading how they interact with each other.
overall, i was being a huge pissbaby when it ended in 2016. it was overall a fine experience.
am i gonna read the epilogues? .......................ehhhh? maybe. i wanna finish pesterquest first before i touch that hot mess.
im still pretty wary of the epilogues, but i wanna approach it as a piece of literature rather than a "homestuck fan." :P
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scaredgirlsilly · 1 year
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(this is for the hot take ask game thang)
no clue if this is a hot take idk but its something i think about alot and also im a lil scared to say it too meanly because i know some people who do this (including me) and i dont wanna like. be mean to them 😭😭😭😭
but people who are all fuckin timid and like "oooo sorry i like this thing i know its just so cringe and dumb and stupid >////<" about their favorite thing or just something they enjoy, like your not helping anything.
ive had this thought for a little bit but getting into homestuck has really showed me like how prevalent it is. i fucking love homestuck. does it have its problems??
YEAH FUCKIN DUH!!!!!!!!
but when i say i like homestuck there are already people who instinctively cringe at me and go "ew thats fucking disgusting whats wrong with you?" and its like sometimes its a joke from my irl friends or sometimes i see people genuinely believe that but like. idk its fucking annoying and dumb cause they can never even tell me what medium its in let alone what its about!!!!!!!!
and so when i see other homestuck fans feel the need to surround their enjoyment of homestuck with a million caveats and apologies its just like. what are you doing?? are you trying to be "one of the good ones"?? are you just ashamed of a thing you like?? are you just trying to appeal to others?? like whats your goal here
idk this is extremely long and rambly and i can talk about it forever but when people already are predisposed to make fun of homestuck and its fans, it is so fucking annoying that other homestuck fans will join in on that and be like "hahaha yeah lol we fucking suck homestuck is so fucking dumb dont look at my 3 homestuck blogs lol i hate it just like you guys" like shut the fuck up oh my god!!!!!!!!
AND I DO IT TOO!!!!!!!! when my irl friends shit on homestuck theres this pressure to go along with it. but like. its not good KSBSKDJAJ yk like it actively makes me a lil sad when i do it. so i try to stop and i think other homestuck fans and really fans of anything should too because like. idk that cant be fun to constantly put down a thing you like to appeal to people who dont like it. just own it be cringe but forreal like actually be cringe who fucking cares
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daedalusdavinci · 9 months
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spell homestuck
GOD. THIS IS SO MUCH LONGER THAN TWO FACE. i typed too much and theres too many qs so under the cut it goes
H - What is your favorite source text for fandom stuff (e.g., TV shows, movies, books, anime, Western animation, etc.)?
books!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or....... i guess comics, these days, but i HATE READING COMICS they juST HAVE MORE COMPELLING FANDOMS. book fandoms are PUNY nad everyone is STUPID. youd think actual literary fandoms would have reading comprehension and understanding of literary critique but no!!!!!!!!!!!!! its literally my eternal fuckign struggle. somehow comic fandoms hit the perfect medium between compelling, readable content and the enthusiasm of cartoon fans without the childishness of cartoon fans
O - Choose a song at random. Which ship or character does it remind you of?
this isnt really a thing i do. the only time i associate characters w songs is my own ocs. barbies theme is miltons tower from the what remains of edith finch soundtrack!
M - Name a character that you’d like to have for a friend.
i have also never really been one to project myself into stories. its just not how i consume media. i think sollux and rose already closely resemble the kinds of friends i make, so maybe them?
E - Have you added anything cracky/hilarious to your fandom? If so, what?
(freddy fazbear vc) vanessa.... ive done things, im not proud of.
i dont even know if i want to answer this question bc its so fucking humiliating LKJSNDLFSDNFSDF the truth is yes. i am solely responsible for. a lot. particularly in the pjo fandom. i created several crackships ground up all on my own way back in 2014 and developed a following for them and i. dont wantto tell you what those ships were. LSKJDFNSLDJNSDFSDDF ive also pioneered many ship tags for other fandoms and i ship a lot of rarepairs and stuff but i dont think im RESPONSIBLE for them?? in that some ppl already were into them/talking abotu them or tht theyre still not popular (augh. to the ones that became popular) but i AM liTERALLY responsible for some crack shit in the pjo fandom and its. it haunts me sometimes. i dont want to talk about it. IF YOU REMEMBER WHAT I DID NO YOU DONT
S - Show us an example of your personal headcanon (prompts optional but encouraged)
this is so vague. my headcanons are shifting and nebulous and aus are my constant companion in everything, but uhhhhhhghhusjkdjnsdg i think. roxy writes the same way dave draws comics. its extremely memey and meta and self aware and largely just for the personal lolz, and were all doing her a disservice by pretending her writing looks like roses, when in reality dirk is probably the one whod make comics the way rose makes books (which is probably why he doesnt make comics). its more of that thing where roxy and dave are the same and rose and dirk are the same ykwim. well YOU dont corvus but im sure someone else does
T - Do you have any hard and fast headcanons that you will die defending?
jason takes after bruce in terms of like. adopting entirely too many kids. he broods
U - Three favorite characters from three different fandoms, and why they’re your favorites.
harvey is a heartwrenching character when written well, with a complicated view of morality, heartbreaking ties to our main hero, and a lot of internal conflict. something about such a hopeful character deadset on making a different in the system becoming a victim of it, and the potential he has as a vehicle for critiquing the law.
percy is my favorite character from pjo bc it was the very first time in my life i ever read a book and saw myself in it. hes aggressive, impulsive, and rebellious, he fidgets and has a hard time standing still, he acts on emotion without always thinking it through, he gets in trouble in school and hands his mom a murder weapon to kill his stepdad, hes just... hes a lot of the things ive always gotten in trouble for, things i couldnt help being, and hes a hero. he means everything to me.
vriska, i will maintain until the day i die, is one of the best homestuck characters- maybe just characters?- ever written. shes dramatic, shes impulsive, shes manipulative and mean and creative, and shes just so messy about it. shes a mean girl in a way that feels real, where her trauma impacts and shapes her as a person, and shes complex, with warring wants, and people she cares about, and dreams, and shes so messy. shes rough and rude and shes doing what SHE wants to, being a version of herself that feels right to HER, rather than some caricature of the hot badass evil lady. shes thirteen!! and she FEELS thirteen. shes a thirteen year old weird girl who is kind of an asshole, and she means literally fucking everything to me. shes a pirate!!!!! shes a swashbuckling badass dressing up in her larping outfit and yelling at her friends on the playground to swab the deck and she is the bestest ever, the end.
i didnt mean for each one of these to be longer than the last but here we are.
C - A ship you have never liked and probably never will.
i hate jdedave peace and love it just feels weird as hell to me. dave, for the most part, is hyper respectful of other peoples choices and boundaries but when it comes to jade hes always trying to mke choices for her, to protect her, and it gets to the point where even jade points out how much it bugs her. jades crush on dave also seems to come from a place of misunderstanding to me, admiring a lot of the parts of himself that he exaggerates and pretends to care about as a result of trauma. it always felt like a kid crush that they shouldve grown out of with time. dave also just sort of seems to... go along with whatever romantic relationships people push him into at that age, rolling with whoever flirts with him jsut bc hes trying to maintain the image of a player, so its really hard to take him seriously any time he hits on someone?
that is just my interpretation of it tho
K - What character has your favorite development arc/the best development arc?
well. i havent finished my reread of homestuck, so that feels difficult to comment on just yet, bc im sure ill have a different opinion when i do finish it. no one in dc gets character arc bc theyre all just undone immediately, so thats like. yeah. and in pjo the arcs are pretty weak bc 1) kids books and 2) RICK UNDOES THEM ALL. AUGH. regardless of all of this, i am going to say jason grace. he had a lot of development in like the last two hoo books, or maybe just like.... hints of how he couldve developed? promise? which rick immediately set fire to in toa when he killed him, but fUCKING WHATEVER. UGH.
anyway actually tho eleanor from the good place. bisexual icon. queen. probably one of the best character arcs of all time. the episode w her mom has some of the most powerful fucking dialogue ever and i think about it. all the time. i should rewatch the good place.....
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sexuality hc: candy timeline dave rewired my brain so now i hc him as gay. but i also like to play around w aro dave !
gender hc: im sorry to say this. but he is so cisgender. dont hate me . even tho im a firm believer in cis man dave i also play around w transgirl dave sometimes
ships: ok davejake is obvious. i rlly dont see him w anyone else . im not a davekat or johndave fan sry yall
hc: i have many bc i interp him as so many diff things its rlly up to however i feel at the moment though i do tend to lean to him being black, a lost or chipped tooth frm strifing would be p cute tbh. i think scars all over his body is an extremely popular hc now as well. I hc him w a scar on his right cheek while dirk has one on his left, absolutely no reason for this i just think its cute!!! the stupid dick branding to match w dirk a post i already made a long time ago obv.
opinion: i cant believe im saying this to you of all people but i actually dont really like dave that much. i was such a huge fucking fan for yeaaaaars and shipped him w anyone under the fuckin sun n would analyze him 833847 times a day bc i was a kinnie but i reread homestuck a few months and was like damn he rlly is a little annoying. 💀💀 but im ok with him now i guess. he is the one character i had an extreme roller coaster with
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Man i should've been writin during this lol. I just started enjoying the song Oooh, maybe I could write lil bio's for all my friends OC's I think it'd be really fun to just like, learn and research their backgrounds and histories, and just try to summarize them Like ok, let me do something for Aeon (my HS Fankid) like rn Ok, so transfem cunt who's kinda girlfailing, but like is doin decently outside of that. Very much someone who sings, but kinda hides it cuz its a lil embarrasing sometimes, and is a big Kamen Rider fan. She is super invested in her friends lives, and loves to keep tabs on them (She's a lil weird lol) As far as her strife specibus, i'd love to do one where you can use diff rider belts as weapons, yknow transform into them. it'd definitely be really cool, but like she should get their weaknesses too. Like Den-O would be hard, cuz like how would u get an Imagin. Although if ur Den-O, That would in turn mean your a singularity point, so u like exist independent of time now. Woah, would that fuck with time players???? That would be interesting to think about. Honestly there's prolly an explanation in Homestuck, but I don't care to check right now tbh. (Aurora [Meet me in the stars] (Anamanaguchi)) haha man, that was cute, just writing down character thoughts and notes, love to do this stuff. Kinda off the cuff, If I think about it harder later, itll be better I love being a Witch of Blood :3 Uhh, i don't know if I have anything else to talk about. alright, rn its 3:04 rn, maybe there'll be something else lol ok 3:10 now Y'know in Vrchat, i'll wear like stuff that actually shows skin right, but like i could never do that irl lol. Like I am always decked out, hoodie/jacket, jeans or sweatpants, the works. All you get is my head and hand :p I think thats why clothes are such a like, indicator of comfort to me. Like just seeing how you dress, and learning what they like yknow. just like, wearing matching clothes, or wearing stupid clothes together, or maybe the opposite, maybe less clothes in their presence, from like sweatpants to shorts, etc, just chilling together Man, just had Mcdonalds for the first time in a while, and the fries are alright, but those nuggets are as bad as i remembered Ok its 3:29 rn I think ive rambled my last breath lol. I'm gonna go sleep.
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[S] Terezi: Play records.
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You select appropriate crime solving music to set the right mood. With this kind of atmosphere, it is highly unlikely that any crime will stay unsolved for long.
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Songs used: Trollcops by Erik Scheele, Havoc To Be Wrought by Thomas Ferkol, Rumble at the Rink by Toby Fox, Unlabeled by Erik Scheele, XROM by Toby Fox, and I'm a member of the Midnight Crew by Eddie Morton
Song commentary for trollcops:
Erik Scheele:
(Alternate Universe Intermission)
So this pretty much happened when Radiation went "yo jit make something" and I was like "okay", and then later I was like "bluuuuuuh don't know what to write", and then Radiation went "do trollcops", and I went "no that's dumb, stupid dumb, what is trollcops even", and Radiation went "DO IT JIT YOU BUTT", and I was like "NO RADIATION I HATE EVERYTHING". And then, Mellotron samples happened, and here we are. Also, it should be pointed out that in the version with vocals, Trollcops (Radio Play), there's a name drop of the fan music piece that htis is based off of. Yes, it takes this long to re-use things, sometimes.
Besides that, I dunno, just enjoy it.
Toby Fox:
Don't tell anyone, but this is actually a remix of one of Jit's old fansongs called Under the Hat, which was a battle theme for Dad. So if your heart still pines for him... his soul and pipe are contained deep within this track.
So damn catchy and sleuthy.
song commentary for havoc to be wrought:
Thomas Ferkol:
Havoc to be Wrought was spawned from an idea for a short story I had in my mind about a man climbing the old bell tower of an abandoned church investigating strange sounds that had plagued a small town, only to be forced into a confrontation with the “King of Owls” once he reaches the top, and ending with the KoO cutting the bell rope that the man clung to and screeching in the night.
Things changed though.
Once I had actually started writing and refining it, I decided to change its message, from a mad owl thing to the mysterious demon in the troll’s session which had been recently mentioned in the comic (I wrote this sometime in Fall 2010). Also, yes, that is why there is distorted owl screeches at the end, although they were more meant to evoke the horrorterrors crying out in pain than owls by the time it was finished.
Contains some very powerful organ and some great chord progressions, but also some structural choices I am not completely proud of, which remained in the piece until its release months and months later because the original Finale file crashed on me before I had a chance to save it. So, rather than attempt reconstructing it, I went with what I had, and it stuck.
Song commentary for unlabeled:
Erik Scheele:
This is the second of the solo piano pieces on this album, at least in the main tracks, and a really late release as well, given that it first appeared in the comic some time around a year ago. I've held it back from getting released just so it could go on this record, so I'm glad it could finally go out.
This is also the only piece on the album that doesn't have a specific event to go along with it. Instead, I went for where it appeared in the comic when placing it, and see it as more of a small interlude. The intermission between Act 1 and Act 2 of a musical, if you will. The art is meant to go along with this as well, a sort of non-canon get-together of the first set of trolls and kids we know, and I can imagine them playing this record while they chill.
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it's been a few days since i went up here. ive been informed that its kind of telling the extent to which im touched like deeply in my heart over the boring ugly ass places i spend my time but like lets be real here most people are basically on some hot mindless bullshit vis a vis beauty like youve got people talking about like. fucking. what. literally the most boring shit ever like just incapable of forming a single relationship with anything theyve ever seen unless they've been given the wordless "okay" for it from the world at large like people wear fucking makeup and shit. thats whats really gay i think.
theres a circle of nothing around the facility just boxing you in same way the heat does you know, which makes sense because no one wants to live around this place for the same reasons no one wants to live by an airport or a cemetery or anywhere drugs are produced in significant numbers, all of which they also do out here btw. lol. anyway it's a chain; youre contained first by the heat then by the machinery and then by miles of space, empty space not even horse trails or makeshift shooting ranges or nothing like that. you dont come out here you know theres no lights.
anyway personally i think there's a lot to be said for walking on something huge and hollow. i'm pretty significantly underweight and shorter than the average adult male even though thats what i am and i wasnt expecting the metal underneath me to cave but it did. nothing gave way of course but there's something interesting about the feeling of the "ground" literally caving in under your feet. im vaguely conscious that i should be afraid of this, but that's just another sensation.
the lights are off color here but your presence makes every one of them feel like a halo shining down. i dont make a habit of thinking about or expressing my feelings but sometimes i do feel them and i think you're a dumb bitch for asking any more of me than that
churning and gurgling under the dented metal beneath my feet is laid over by the dull roar of the fans. the wind blows and from what cant be less than five stories above the ground i look down and watch him move. it's always fascinated me the way clothing can frame a body; he looks different than he did before. i'd smile but i don't feel like it. thats okay though
used to spend a lot of time thinking about places like this and the consequences of spending lots of time in them. i want to get my fingers into places like this even if it pinches and burns. now's a really good time for us to split a cigarette you know. sit down a minute. 20$ says you wont see more than 7 or 8 cars on the road going through here the whole time we're up watching. it's got to mean something to someone but im honestly just cool hanging out with you. no big deal yk i just dont get out that often anymore so i get sentimental real easy like its so gay.
so yeah slickdirk. this is a little rambly and shit im not apologizing here just like giving a warning im typing this up inthe library after an early early morning /late late night shift cuz the electric in my unit is off and its hot as ass in there so fuck that basically. anyway
before i say anything more of course ive got to specify that i'm totally riffing off of tumblr user @youabandonedthem for my slick characterization here. but honestly it doesn't feel like characterization it's more like dear beloved sweet yat has the only meaningful understanding of slick anyone has ever had in the world like i mean come on look at that fucking blog youre kidding me and also stupid as fuck if you think thats even an interpretation of the character its just straight up factual. jackass. anyway im all over it hope its ok to namedrop you here dont be a stranger and all that.
similarly shoutout to dear beloved sweet @ottiliere for her dirk characterization which is similarly the only dirk that could possibly matter to me like most of everyone else who posts about him seems to have just not read homestuck some of the people writing meta about him even just have no grasp on ANY of the characters if were being real here but thats way off topic anyway otti owns i dont usually give a shit about aus but if its good its good and if you deny it youre nothing basically.
i dont think anyone has given love to tmc the way yat does and i don't think anyone has really put their heart into making weird niche homestuck art the way ottiliere does (at least not in this era like ive been OVER this before if youve ever talked to me we are living in a post-post-homestuck society). which makes sense because the vast majority of modern fans (of anything) are altogether much more boring breed. no plumage or patterns or anything fun. but thats another thing. and also overly pessimistic of me but whatever i feel like if someone reads that and feels like theyre being called boring its because they know somewhere that theyre boring and missing out and maybe thats their wakeup call to start getting silly with it. or maybe no one cares i dont know i dont give a shit.
anyway the intitial interest in slickdirk was generated pretty specifically in the context of the two of them being psych warded together. typically this prospect alone would be like harlequin novel parody fanfiction type shit such that i wouldnt have any interest in it, but this was different from the get go on the basis that their interactions were never initially about romance.
dirk is self aware to the point of walking backwards. he's self obsessed, self conscious, hyperfixated-in the true sense-on how he presents himself. like all people like this, he's also constantly telling on himself. i'm speaking in terms of canon and otti's dirk here btw, this is true of both fundamentally. in terms of otti's vision specifically, though…it's dialed up, right.
people who think about themselves like this are inherently isolated from other people because, regardless of how they feel about themselves, they're very convinced they're better than everyone else. being in an institution full of other sick people can spur this line of thinking regardless of how untrue it is; once you've decided you're above the rest of the BRAINBROKE FREAKS around you, it's hard to even start to empathize with any of them! if you look back at some of otti's older posts you can kind of feel the extent to which dirk doesn't want jackshit to do with nothing going on in the hospital like just obviously has no interest in participating or anything like that in any capacity.
slick on the other hand like. really i can't write any of this without referencing yat's house essay about the midnight crew watching house and specifically spades slick watching house and how he would feel about it. forget everything i just said and go read that and then come back. okay so he obviously thinks about himself and his body and very specifically his disability in such a way that he is basically completely unaware of it in spite of living with it day to day. if you know what kind of guy im talking about here you know but also im going on good faith here assuming you read the youabandonedthem papers so even if you dont KNOW you should at least have kind of an idea what im referring to here.
the big draw between these two is that they're both in completely different subtypes of denial about themselves to vastly different effects. of course they'd be drawn to each other in this scenario…they're literally the ONLY NORMAL people in the whole building uhh have you seen the other guys in here. lol like what even.
and the thing is that even following up the initial theorized meeting in the ward, like, there's all this potential for what could come after…don't get it twisted this isn't some edgy folie a deux that im suggesting that would be so boring.
they're more than "bad for each other" even if they're not quite "good for each other" either. it isn't about an endgame or even necessarily "shipping" as a lot of people think of it. it's more like…the ways their differences and similarities line up feel aligned, even though it wasn't intentional, the same way some moments just feel "right". it isn't about how long the moment lasts or what its impact is, just that there was a moment where there wouldn't have been one if even a few tiny things had shifted. life is comprised of shit like that right. so when something like slickdirk comes along you can either balk at the absurdity of it or ride the wave.
orjust like passively observe thats an option too of course. no big deal it could literally never ever be a big deal im literally just out here trying to have fun trying to make myself laugh yk.
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isn't it funny how racism is one of the few things homestuck doesn't really tackle much but people keep trying say hussie is racist over dumb shit like saying gamzee is a black stereotype or meenah using aav
Homestuck avoids tackling race in the 'usual' sense, but the criticisms the comic and its author have amassed for handling the subject poorly and sometimes outright maliciously aren't unfounded, lol. It is not free from unsavory racist tropes. Not every criticism falls into a neat binary of "true/false". Homestuck Omits the concept of race while it is clearly biased towards looking at the world through a white lens, even when it tries to tackle systematic bigotry. That's where it fails. The ways it engaged with its black readers over the years are also far from praiseworthy. I get the impression a lot of new people have no idea trickstermode originally contained a caucasian-ification joke as some sort of response for fans drawing characters as black kids, but that was very much there and it sucked total ass.
Homestuck has racialized characters. It just so happens that the manner in which they're depicted - be it #ffffff skin or the amalgam of standardized troll features - can trick the distracted reader into believing this is a story free from the overall context & bias of race and the society we very much inhabit.
Things like Meenah being pretty clearly Black Coded, from wearing her hair in long locs/braids to speaking in AAVE as a quirk aren't an accident. Things like the fandom depicting Jade & Jake as disproportionately stupid/aggressive/unkempt/unfeminine because they're widely accepted as The Non-White darkskinned characters by the fans aren't an accident. The Striders being painted as white even though Dirk is introduced as a rapper-revolutionary whos survived the tyrannical rule of a government that enslaved the human race (with the help of prominent white people, if i might add) and tried to make the racial features of an entire population fit into an specific mold isn't, uh, an accident. Damara speaking in shitty google translate japanese and hitting all checkboxes for 'stereotypical oversexualized asian woman' is specially not an accident. (Gamzee is based upon ICP and its hugely white-focused, white-led culture. They liberally 'borrowed' aspects from black culture to make up their customs, sure, but that doesn't make them not white. I personally disengage with that discourse and have no interest in it. )
We don't exist in a world where race is obsolete. The art we make is not safe from that bias. Not even you, the reader, is absolved of racial discussion. It is productive to examine what we write and how we write it. Fictional caricatures of race have been used in propaganda for a looong time, and they still shape our media landscape and preconceived racist notions.
Racism? In your You? It's more likely than you think.
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