#lcdp martin

[marinagail]

@marqenobi thank you for asking my thoughts on Berlin show.

First of all, first time they mentioned the spin off I was very excited. I love LCDP so much, even some of the things I disagree in later seasons, season 4 & 5. Still, my god. It was authentic, thrilling, made you doubt that this teams could ever get away. Both heists were very AMAZING, one of a kind. The show that never been created like that.

The mint heist still and will always be my Fav. But the Gold heist, it was Grand. The mint heist was like Classic Noir Suspense, thrilling and dramatic, holding my breath most of the time. The gold heist was loud, a touch of war, a test for the humanity, shocking, and didn't give us the audience mercy by UNAFRAID to kill our fav characters 😢 both heists were showing us a very thin line between bad guys and good guys. Okay i'll stop ranting now before it gets too long lol.

Now comes the Spin off. Berlin fans favorite.

We expected the background stories of this maniac, his sly and intelligence ways to do the robberies. Why he never get caught. (This one I believe it had something to do with Sergio). And other things that We're so excited to found out about this man. I don't think fans care whether he turns out to be worse than we want him to, or not as evil as the fans thought he might. Fans would love any kind of representation on his arc. And this is why I love fan base, they can cook whatever there is in canon and made their own interpretation on him. It'd be fun. But not the overly obsessed in love with a stranger middle aged man.

When I watch the spin off. I finished them in one day lol. I'm sure some of us did somehow. We've been waiting. If I can be honest,

Berlin is the worst character on his own show. First, the fashion. That man cares about his look, his fashion is quite bad there. I'm sorry. The turtle neck is too much.

Second, Andres in LCDP season 1&2 were a fucking professional who would kill a witness, Advicing sergio to kill Angel in the hospital to cut a loose end, and other rational smart decisions in regard for his teammates, which some of them I agreed with him. That's why He's known to be a ruthless professional with a brain. That's what makes him worth to be the Captain that you can actually depended on.

Andres in the Spin off looks like a cartoonic character chasing a woman he fell in love with in 5 seconds, and for those who haven't watched, that's what He'll be doing until the end of the show. He forgot about Everything and it makes me so mad, because he doesn't care about his teammates, doesn't give a shit about the plan, he looks more of a dumbass than Arturo. A professional thief would never did that, especially if He's the one who leads the team.

The kind of love story is almost similar to Sergio and Raquel. The difference is Sergio really were a fucking cruel professional. Sergio still rational even when he knows He's falling for her. But his priority is the plan, the teammates, to get them out safely. He's willing to leave Raquel and even thinking of killing her mother (lol), ruin Raquel's career and possibly life, ALL PART OF THE PLAN. it wasn't just a sudden choice, it was all planned down to the last details, and that is the cruelest most ruthless Romance and revenge to the cops, that one could possibly think or interpret what Sergio experience weren't love but infatuation and adrenaline in the midst of heist. I'd like to talk about this some other time, it's gonna pissed off some Serquel fans. But We're not here for that.

Whereas Andres, the cold hearted Sociopath, he chased down Camille into the elevator and kissed her (cringe), singing Felicita with Damian with no care while his team being chased down by the cops (ok). Taking care of camille's best friend's kid (wtf), going to see Camille's husband in Jail and offer him help, because he is so in love with her, and tried to freed him. what is the point of helping her husband? What does he get from it?! I mean... They want to make him look like the Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man lol.

They also tried so hard to make him look like a psychopath but failed, the worst trials. First he threatened that guy in the opening scene, that was quite good actually, probably the best scene in the show, but it went down hill from there. Second, looking at the fork in the restaurant because he's angry lol, Alex Pina. You don't have to do that. That was very unnecessary. Andres killing a guy in the restaurant with a fork is done. And no need to remake that scene. And then, he threatened the Lawyer, I just realized that Andres is all talking, and talking, trying to scare people with his threats. Nothing much.

Third, the heist in the spin off. The advertisement of Berlin Spin off is that the Red Gem that They're gonna steal. The mystery heist we've been waiting for. And in the spin off, I don't know when did the heist ended. Just like that. What did they steal anyway? Only jewels. There weren't any red gem. How much? And what about the tunnel they made under the chapel? Did they just leave it like that? There are too many loose ends and of course the heist, the plan weren't great. I can say it was a very bad bad robbery, and an easy one too. No wonder sergio and martin weren't there. No need for the masterminds help.

The members of the crew were just like bad copies of the original. Nobody can change my mind on this. Tried so hard to bring back the old vibe gang, doing Everything wrong in this show and they have the audacity to promote it by saying "We're making a thing better than the LCDP". At least have some respect with the former show. The former actors also work hard to achieve a great show together.

Damian and his problem with his wife, Cameron and her past which Nobody cares, Roi (rafael 0.2) that's why andres asked him to wear glasses. Perhaps it reminds him of his son. But how does he know how his son looks like when he never ever seen him? (Season 5 plot), Bruce (i've got no problem with bruce, the dude didn't try too much, He's cool), kaila (Surprisingly I like keila more than the rest. She's not Trying to be somebody in the past, she's more of a fresh character than Berlin ever could).

Now Alicia and Raquel. They were meh. Their dialogue were bad. The chances of these two could thrive in Berlin if they have their own story. Instead of forcing their friendship on our faces. I was excited about their roles. But it turns a bit forced??? Idk if it's just me I guess.

The whole story line could work if they focus more about the robbery. And see where the characters develop from there. I thought perhaps if they gonna ruin Berlin character at least perhaps with a great heist plot could save this spin off. But it turned out to be a bad heist nobody even really care about.

Still there are some moments where berlin were tolerable and ofc great on some scenes. I have HUGE respect on Pedro for his acting skill but even a great acting skill couldn't save a bad plot and direction. The potential were there, but they are TOO focus on the Nostalgic that they ruined the chances to bring out the origin stories for Berlin.

The fans could do better tbh. Making gifts like @marqenobi did, or @pedroalonso did with their arts. And perhaps creating a better story lines like @roccinan fics for examples lol. About Berlermo and Hermanos. And others I too enjoyed very much. Since I guess we do it out of love for the characters themselves and not for anything else.

Strange that I still hope for more seasons you know why? Because I love the character. And yearn to see more of them. I was left disappointed. But what can I do but cringe all the way through watching berlin spin off.

Pedro you did great. But i'm sorry. Berlin spin off were very bad. And that's my honest opinion. If you have your own thought on this @marqenobi please don't hesitate to share yours too. Even if you disagree with me, I'd be delighted to hear another opinions. That's what i've been doing here on blogs reading different thoughts n opinions about things. Xoxoxo happy new year.

[moreaugriffins]

Literally them

[technically-human]

¡Tango!

Berlermo commission! I haven't watched La Casa de Papel but you give me an Argentinian character, you bet I'm making them dance tango

[marqenobi]

andrés (& martín) clownery pt. 2 insp

[moodboards-aesthetics]

Berlin & Palermo aka Berlermo

[peeps-brainrot]

Does Andres know it's legal now or

[gordonstanheight]

I am yet again thinking about the fact that Andrés wholeheartedly looked Martín in the eyes & told him they were soulmates & no one had ever made him feel the way Martín does & then kissed him as hard as he could...... & then left his ass ?????

[oshieteacapella]

Palermo thoughts on Tatiana

What I haven’t seen being discussed (though of course, I came to Berlermo nation years late) is what Palermo feels or thinks about Tatiana. We see him putting on a good face at the wedding, clearly saddened by the marriage, longing for something he can’t have. Then we see him planning the heist with Berlin—and that kiss, which could’ve been the sign that something might finally happen between them—until Berlin shuts it all down and leave.

Still, Palermo would’ve had a relationship with Berlin even if Tatiana were in the next room. It wouldn’t have mattered. His love or devotion for Berlin was bigger, and he is a thief (so the morals wouldn't have cared that much).

Then, after years working together without getting caught, Berlin gets arrested right after Tatiana leaves him for Rafael, his own son. And Berlin knew he was going to be arrested. He knew he was putting himself in danger.

I imagine Palermo wasn’t just devastated because Berlin rejected him (and the plan) after the kiss—and after what he would later describe as the best years of his life—but then Berlin goes and makes a mistake. And much later, Tatiana and Rafael steal the gold—the gold that symbolized those best years of his life and his relationship with Berlin. He must be mad at her, right??

Tell me there are fanfics or something exploring the absolute hatred he must feel for her. I want them to be sworn enemies.

Also, Tatiana must have know -it was evident to anyone with eyes- that Palermo loves Berlin. And that Andrés also feels something back he couldn't quite explain or give himself the time to explore. He says he loves women too much, and that's true, but I'm sure she knew he wasn't making the plans with her but with Martín. There was a connection there.

Conclusion: i hope they hate each other's guts. I hope family dinner is as nice as a dagger duel and I hope Sergio hates every minute of it while Andrés just LOVES being the centre of attention.

[aizawashuichi]

berlermo is the EPITOME of doomed old man yaoi and NOBODY talks about them. homophobic and ageist.

[cheetitozz]

BERLERMO SKETCHES THAT IVE BEEN WORKING ON ‼️

Y mis (3) seguidores dirán "LEO, POR QUÉ NO SUBES NADA" y yo diré COMAN HIJOS COMAN.

[wedgeantill]

Palermo, Nairobi, and Coffee ☕

[moreaugriffins]

[yourmajestybee-s-corner]

A little edit of all my LCDP/Money Heist ships!!

Ships featured:

-Berlermo

-Denvila

-Marsinki

-Serquel

[marqenobi]

He was my friend. Someone indispensable to me. He was my other half. (happy birthday @dormarunt <3)

[acealpaca]

Palermo: Look at me straight in the eyes and tell me the truth!

Berlin: You can’t expect me to look into your eyes and be straight.

[lofan]

Happy Berlermo day everyone!

I present you a little something for the best fic I have ever laid my eyes on:

The Time Traveler’s Soulmate by @oreo-cookies-fan is wholly responsible for this. This gem of a fic left me speechless and in tears and forced me to do something. That's my only excuse.