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starlit1daydream · 6 months ago
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Mages & Seers: Experience and Comprehension
Those who know, everybody. I love Seers - so this should be one hell of an analysis.
The Mage:Seer class dichotomy embodies experience, comprehension and knowledge of their Aspect. Their Quest and their role in the session revolves wholly around their personal comprehension of their Aspect; and the ways in which that may shift or change their (or others!) viewpoint.
I can't definitively say they're one of the Classes that say something about their session, beyond perhaps the concept that a Mage or a Seer will obviously have a well of knowledge on their Aspect present.
Canonical Mage players are Sollux Captor (Mage of Doom) and Meulin Leijon (Mage of Heart).
Canonical Seer players are Rose Lalonde (Seer of Light), Terezi Pyrope (Seer of Mind) and Kankri Vantas (Seer of Blood).
Point A. The narrative function of the Mage.
Mages know about their Aspect. They are that simple to understand. A lot of people will argue that the Mage is one of the more nebulous classes in Homestuck; and I'd argue this is because there really isn't much in the way of complexity with them. They've got a fairly straightforward relationship with their Aspect; having experienced it wholly throughout their life prior to the session.
It's almost, to me, as if their Aspect haunts them in a sense. We see this with Sollux's recurring visions of Doom and misfortune; considering that the Mages & Seers are meant to fill a sort of 'prophet' archetype.
Sollux is consistently depicted as knowledgeable on coding (a manifestation of Doom in the form of rigid order and regulation) and holding a vast well of knowledge and foresight on the topic of suffering. It's important to hold the distinction that Doom does not deal directly with absolute death (Time does), and so Sollux's visions are of the imminently doomed and the suffering, not the already deceased.
Meulin is a little more difficult to pin down, but inference from stray lines of dialogue and particularly her complex moirallegiance with Horuss give me some substance to work with. Toxic positivity? Alluded 'darkness' in her without elaboration? Her disability being inflicted directly as a result of her partner & lover? I think what we're looking at here is depression.
If Meulin has experience with Heart in all facets - this implies to me that she has a share of experience with emotion in all facets. Good and bad. And what better manifestation of poor emotional control than that? I think it's a very conclusive theory.
It becomes clear to me that Mages aren't absolute in their assertions, and so therein comes my theory that their quest involves an expansion of perspective and reconsideration of their knowledge. It is to accept that they may not understand their Aspect as thoroughly as once thought and subsequently grow to accomodate a wider worldview. They're stagnant, having experienced so much that they feel they have no further room to learn.
Point B. The practical function of the Mage.
This is a more difficult one to understand since neither Mage in the comic God Tiers and they aren't seen fighting much over the course of the story. Even when Sollux takes to action, he applies his psiionics rather than utilising Doom in any way.
My theory is that the application of a Mage is to inform. Mages & Seers may very well hold the same occupation broadly speaking, to accomodate for the gaps in co-players' knowledge and bring about newfound understanding. Being active players, the Mages presumably advance this through their own means. This is some of the most active conjecture I'll be writing, since we do not ever see a God-Tiered Mage in canon.
Point C. The narrative function of the Seer!
In case it wasn't obvious, I am very excited to get this segment done; after all, who better to talk on the topic of Seers than... a Seer?
Seers have a little more depth to their function involving their relationship with both their Aspect and its diemetric opposite. Seers begin their sessions holding a poor or deficient comprehension of their Aspect; to the point where they seek their opposite. The notion of their base Aspect comes into play fairly soon - though they may superficially seek their opposite, it is their Aspect they seek in actuality.
They do hold a certain level of foresight, but rather than the Mage's inherent comprehension, Seers tend to rely upon external sources and stimuli to further their understanding; Rose with the Horrorterrors, Terezi with Scratch & Aranea, and we can only guess with Kankri.
They are capable of having visions, though - as Rose & The Signless can both attest to!
Rose seeks Void. She seeks to breach the unknowable, catalogues the Zoologically Dubious and finds comfort in oblivion and the pursuit of ignorance. She resolves to leave the game to Void rather than seek its Light; at first.
Terezi seeks Heart. Her final speech to Vriska talks of her emotional insecurity and pursuit of self-assurance. She wishes most prominently for security in herself and her identity; and yet this manifests in a flawed pursuit of binary, deficient Mind.
Kankri seeks Breath. Having been coddled and patronised all his life, freedom is his ultimate aim. His rebellious spirit and compulsive boot-licking seem to be a direct manifestation of his desire to think for himself and be free in his direction. Kankri's a particularly interesting one given that he fucked up his quest, canonically.
...The Signless didn't, however. The Signless pursued unity through freedom his whole life.
Rose resolves to pursue knowledge through the unknown.
Terezi seeks logic through emotion.
All of them grow, the further they pursue their Session's aims, to understand their base Aspect. It's a reversal of the Mage's quest; the stagnant Mage must embrace diversity wheras the directionless Seer embraces their certain path.
Point D. The practical function of the Seer.
Apologies, this is going to be mostly just about Rose.
Rose's role in her session post-ascension is to understand and inform her session-mates about the most fortuitous path. Her visions allow her to comprehend Light and sift through the endless possibilities and synthesis of her Aspect to find the most precise outcome. They grow to be an indispensible well of knowledge; always learning and finding out their Aspect's truth.
Terezi does the same, albeit without ascending; her greatest moment of heroism is the prelude to the Retcon, which she directly causes. Terezi applies all of her knowledge of consequence, cause & effect to undo the resultant consequences of the actions taken by her sessionmates. She uses her comprehension of Mind to her utmost ability; which is why I find it gut-wrenching that she still believes she was never enough.
Kankri... does jack shit other than be a whiny little bootlicker, but The Signless certainly applies his Aspect for the greater good. The fire of his rebellion and his pursuit of unity and free communication on Alternia ignite the spark of revolution for generations to come; his quest for Blood bringing utmost comprehension and sight of unity.
Overall, this is one Class where the narrative:practical lines tend to blur a little, owing to the general non-combatant status of the Classes in general. Rose shows they're capable of using their Aspect in combat just as all players are; but it seems clear to me that they function the best as advisors.
Next week, I'll be elucidating on the Witches & Heirs; which will be an interesting one since it'll require me to actually understand what a Witch does. That should be fun.
Take care, everybody. I know nothing.
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cgtg · 4 months ago
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TIME PLAYERZ ONLY
as with the prev polls: if you consider multiple, i suggest going for the one u feel aligned with currently/most often, which one u wanna represent in a poll like this, whichever has the most compelling role/narrative, whatever works for U. classpecting is very subjective, and fluid for a lot of people.
i actively encourage discussion in the replies of what your class and aspect mean to u. simple or lengthy, i wanna hear it :J
excluding master classes bc no space for em, sorry.
for those who cant vote: i’d appreciate u passing the poll along. also, i’ll likely post updates throughout the week on how it’s going so everyone can have a peek inside. thank u
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arachnidsgrippysocks · 9 months ago
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8ehold my 8eloved little losers in their god ro8es
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libby1080 · 4 months ago
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Tim Stoker
mage of time
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homestuck-hell · 2 months ago
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Freddo Alabas, Mage of Time, Derse
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Hx/Hxm
Hx is going to crush you at karoke night
Incredible at keeping time
Calls hxs hive the batcave
Land of Syncopation and Caves
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k-arb · 2 months ago
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Ive decided that mages should have their own books associated with them. either they write them or own them.
Mage of Breath: Book on weather patterns. Mage of Life: Cook book. Mage of Light: Encyclopedia. Mage of Time: History book. Mage of Heart: Romance Novel. Mage of Rage: Perhaps an anger management book, or a journal of sorts? (think journaling to vent your frustrations.) Mage of Blood: Textbook on how the human body works. Mage of Doom: Programming for dummies. Mage of Void: Maybe a book about cryptids, or other mysterious creatures. Or someone elses journal. Mage of Space: Textbook about Physics. Mage of Mind: Psychology textbook. Mage of Hope: Some sort of religious text (bible, torah, etc)
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dirksawesomesprites · 9 months ago
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mage of tiime 2ollux w wiing2 liike iin that one kurkumut fanart (look iin my tag two fiind iit)
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hope this is what u ment
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etherealbiocide · 1 year ago
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STUCK ... STUCK? PIECES 🎆✨️⚙️❤️💚💙🖤
Some digital pieces I've done for the MSPFA story 'Stuck...Stuck?', made by me, @digitalminstrel  , @seeingstarzz and @henryscircus ! :)
The first piece is OVERTHINKING, a piece done with pixel brushes starring God tiered Wren and regular Kipp, inspired by the lyrics from Overthinking - Mabel.
The second piece is SBURBICIDE, another pixel brush piece that was honestly meant to be a shitpost since it was inspired by the "come with us to equestria" image 😭 but it looked cool and was plot accurate so I decided to finalise it! :) it stars Stan and Adam.
The third piece is ANTICHRIST, which is just a cool bust of Adam tbh and doesn't have any lore worth noting at all.
If you're interested in Homestuck/Sburb fan comics, then feel free to give Stuck...Stuck? A read! :) it isn't super long at the moment, but it can be read here! ---> https://mspfa.com/?s=57315&p=1
[Reblogs are appreciated!] [PLEASE DO NOT USE MY ART AS YOUR PFP WITHOUT PERMISSION.]
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bellnallart · 9 months ago
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sidona is a Mage of Time! their arc revolves around accepting their place as the new Genesis Frog. they are intuitively linked to their timeline, but easily swayed by outside influence.
the swirl on their gear looks like a ramen ingredient lol
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giftofclasspects · 2 years ago
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all my time playlists!
maid of time
page of time
mage of time
knight of time
rogue of time
sylph of time
seer of time
thief of time
heir of time
bard of time
prince of time
witch of time
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starlit1daydream · 3 months ago
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Had an extended thought about DDLC SBURB-ways that I really wanted to get out there before it runs out of my mind; plus, I could use a second opinion.
Monika begins the story clawing together fragments of SBURB.exe code from various sources, desperate to boot up a session in the hopes it'll free her from her own game - transporting her and the others out of DDLC itself and into The Medium instead.
All she's read about the game for sure is it's intended for the birth of universes, and the prospect of a new world she's in full control of sounds very enticing.
To her [and everyone else's] surprise, the attempt works and all four girls are transported into SBURB; and Monika is very confident in things running smoothly!
...This is not how they run at all.
See, through Monika's previous meddling with codes & character files, she's made one hell of a grievous error.
She's manipulated the characters of Sayori & Yuri so deeply that she's changed the fundamental core of who they are.
In layman's terms, she's artificially altered their Classpects - bringing secondary traits to the forefront, and turning primary traits to tertiary.
And since Monika's manipulation specifically targets her friends' negative attributes, worsening their own mental health? These changes are not good ones.
Monika, here, is a Witch of Light. She's manipulating not just the parameters of her role, now, but the narrative itself. She's artificially transformed the very truth of her friends' characters.
Natsuki, immune to her manipulation through the latent powers of her Aspect; and a few quirks in the code itself, is a Knight of Rage; now saddled with the responsibility of maintaining skepticism.
Sayori, initially pegged as a Sylph of Blood, has been turned into a Page of Doom instead; now threatening to atrophy the components of the game itself the more she sinks into fatalistic depression.
And Yuri, intended as a Seer of Heart, is now a Mage of Time with a destructive obsession with death & entropy; five seconds away from turning on her co-players and ending the session in blood.
So, their session's about five seconds away from going down the shitter; and Monika is forced to consult Natsuki for help - she's the only one without any notable alterations to personality thanks to the abilities given to her by the Rage Aspect.
Predictably, she is really not too happy with Monika once she comes clean, but agrees to work with her to fix this mess for the greater good; after having her own private episode of dread given her newfound knowledge of her game's [un]reality.
Lands are still in very heavy beta phase, but a few ideas:
Monika's could be a verdant, grassy world representing the kind of picturesque future she's always dreamed of - and also a little stealth reference to bliss.png.
Sayori's would be covered in perpetual torrential rain, a little nod to her 'raincloud' metaphor for her depression, with a quest that would involve clearing the skies.
Yuri's I have a very clear inspiration for - The Garden of Forking Paths from ULTRAKILL. A land of pristine, soulless marble; a blank canvas just begging to be painted red with blood.
Natsuki's Land, I see as a frozen wasteland turning her culinary intrigue against her; an Antarctic wilderness with frosting instead of frost; a cold dessert over desert.
So, of course, I am fairly unsure whether or not I cooked something here or whether I burned the kitchen down.
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shenanigan-central · 6 months ago
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FAV REDESIGN RN!!!!! [His name is also now “Glarot” pronounced “Gl-ah-row”, “rot” comes from “Pierrot”, the type of subjug Glarot is partially based on, at least in his current form] Just Glarot. By the way. “Glam” is a popular nickname between close friends, but “Rot” is only to be uttered by his moirail Telede :] [He/Him for Glarot, fhank you!!] [REBLOG > JUST LIKING‼️]
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local-susie-deltarune-fan · 9 months ago
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mage of time that has to keep going through the same session over and over and over and over until it fits the alpha timeline requirements. pure suffering.
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cericreatively · 28 days ago
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> LACY: Exuberantly Express Yourself
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When you're a young teen with an interest in so many retro-themed media and an active dream to be a rollerskater, you can do a lot of things (especially if it means hopefully breaking free from your popstar guardian who's insistent on trying to make you follow in his footsteps against your own heart's desire).
Even more so when you're grappling with your growing connection to one of your online friends, and joining in on a group-player video game that ends up making you face the harrowing reality of existential dread and rewriting fate and the universe.
More refs and info under the cut:
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Some fun facts about her:
Honestly, the idea to have her be an upbeat rollerskater with an interest in retro/disco stuff was a random one I had when I began developing her, but later on it got further refined to tie in with her classpect (Mage of Time)
A lot of her character development (and dynamic with a certain aspiring illustrator) ended up being influenced by aus that me and my moot @pyrobuyo would put the rest of our oc blorbos in our shared Homestuck au concept into
She honestly deserves more reference images (I say as I juggle drawing artfight refs with hyperfixation fanart and other art projects I have irl :,]]])
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maidofhearteditz · 8 months ago
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hihi!!! can i have a mage of time moodboard? the theme relating to it is a freebie ]:D
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3833< Oki! This was super fun XD!
B33< I based the whole "90s" vibe to a mage of time irl so lemme know if u want anything changed 38D!
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underyourwinghomeout · 11 months ago
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These sprites are smaller than the ones I've done before, I hope they look better
And yes, I changed the aspect of someone
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