#seer of void

[ask-the-page-of-space]

Anonymous said: Hello! If it's not too much trouble, could you tell me how a game with a seer of void (f) , witch of space (nb), sylph of breath (f), mage of mind(m), prince of light(f), and a knight of rage(m) would go?

So, at a glance, I’m liking how this team is looking! We got a Seer of Void, capable of ferreting out bits of hidden information that the whole team can make use of and a Mage of Mind, potentially an actual mind-reader! He’ll be able to figure out what everyone else is planning and adjust his own plans to suit the situation - a perfect chess master! Even the Knight of Rage is a potentially significant boon, as the session will be lacking in volatile emotions...just make sure you stay hyped for victory!

Your Prince of Light is gonna be devastating in unpredictable ways in combat, blowing away the competition through a series of lucky blows...or else using the knowledge she gains to make everything work for her. The Sylph of Breath will make sure the team doesn’t remain stagnant, always coming around to give them the motivation they need to keep going, and we all know how useful a Witch of Space is, what with the free manipulation of physics and spacial reality.

Ahh, but then we come to the problem: No Time player! Not having a player intrinsically tied to the aspect of time means your team only gets one shot at winning, and as I’ve noted before, Sburb is a notoriously difficult game to beat. Hopefully, with your excellent collection of player classpects and the little bit of insight I’ve offered here, you’ll be able to pull through! Wishing you plenty of good luck!

[starlit1daydream]

Mages & Seers: Experience and Comprehension

Those who know, everybody. I love Seers - so this should be one hell of an analysis.

The Mage:Seer class dichotomy embodies experience, comprehension and knowledge of their Aspect. Their Quest and their role in the session revolves wholly around their personal comprehension of their Aspect; and the ways in which that may shift or change their (or others!) viewpoint.

I can't definitively say they're one of the Classes that say something about their session, beyond perhaps the concept that a Mage or a Seer will obviously have a well of knowledge on their Aspect present.

Canonical Mage players are Sollux Captor (Mage of Doom) and Meulin Leijon (Mage of Heart).

Canonical Seer players are Rose Lalonde (Seer of Light), Terezi Pyrope (Seer of Mind) and Kankri Vantas (Seer of Blood).

Point A. The narrative function of the Mage.

Mages know about their Aspect. They are that simple to understand. A lot of people will argue that the Mage is one of the more nebulous classes in Homestuck; and I'd argue this is because there really isn't much in the way of complexity with them. They've got a fairly straightforward relationship with their Aspect; having experienced it wholly throughout their life prior to the session.

It's almost, to me, as if their Aspect haunts them in a sense. We see this with Sollux's recurring visions of Doom and misfortune; considering that the Mages & Seers are meant to fill a sort of 'prophet' archetype.

Sollux is consistently depicted as knowledgeable on coding (a manifestation of Doom in the form of rigid order and regulation) and holding a vast well of knowledge and foresight on the topic of suffering. It's important to hold the distinction that Doom does not deal directly with absolute death (Time does), and so Sollux's visions are of the imminently doomed and the suffering, not the already deceased.

Meulin is a little more difficult to pin down, but inference from stray lines of dialogue and particularly her complex moirallegiance with Horuss give me some substance to work with. Toxic positivity? Alluded 'darkness' in her without elaboration? Her disability being inflicted directly as a result of her partner & lover? I think what we're looking at here is depression.

If Meulin has experience with Heart in all facets - this implies to me that she has a share of experience with emotion in all facets. Good and bad. And what better manifestation of poor emotional control than that? I think it's a very conclusive theory.

It becomes clear to me that Mages aren't absolute in their assertions, and so therein comes my theory that their quest involves an expansion of perspective and reconsideration of their knowledge. It is to accept that they may not understand their Aspect as thoroughly as once thought and subsequently grow to accomodate a wider worldview. They're stagnant, having experienced so much that they feel they have no further room to learn.

Point B. The practical function of the Mage.

This is a more difficult one to understand since neither Mage in the comic God Tiers and they aren't seen fighting much over the course of the story. Even when Sollux takes to action, he applies his psiionics rather than utilising Doom in any way.

My theory is that the application of a Mage is to inform. Mages & Seers may very well hold the same occupation broadly speaking, to accomodate for the gaps in co-players' knowledge and bring about newfound understanding. Being active players, the Mages presumably advance this through their own means. This is some of the most active conjecture I'll be writing, since we do not ever see a God-Tiered Mage in canon.

Point C. The narrative function of the Seer!

In case it wasn't obvious, I am very excited to get this segment done; after all, who better to talk on the topic of Seers than... a Seer?

Seers have a little more depth to their function involving their relationship with both their Aspect and its diemetric opposite. Seers begin their sessions holding a poor or deficient comprehension of their Aspect; to the point where they seek their opposite. The notion of their base Aspect comes into play fairly soon - though they may superficially seek their opposite, it is their Aspect they seek in actuality.

They do hold a certain level of foresight, but rather than the Mage's inherent comprehension, Seers tend to rely upon external sources and stimuli to further their understanding; Rose with the Horrorterrors, Terezi with Scratch & Aranea, and we can only guess with Kankri.

They are capable of having visions, though - as Rose & The Signless can both attest to!

Rose seeks Void. She seeks to breach the unknowable, catalogues the Zoologically Dubious and finds comfort in oblivion and the pursuit of ignorance. She resolves to leave the game to Void rather than seek its Light; at first.

Terezi seeks Heart. Her final speech to Vriska talks of her emotional insecurity and pursuit of self-assurance. She wishes most prominently for security in herself and her identity; and yet this manifests in a flawed pursuit of binary, deficient Mind.

Kankri seeks Breath. Having been coddled and patronised all his life, freedom is his ultimate aim. His rebellious spirit and compulsive boot-licking seem to be a direct manifestation of his desire to think for himself and be free in his direction. Kankri's a particularly interesting one given that he fucked up his quest, canonically.

...The Signless didn't, however. The Signless pursued unity through freedom his whole life.

Rose resolves to pursue knowledge through the unknown.

Terezi seeks logic through emotion.

All of them grow, the further they pursue their Session's aims, to understand their base Aspect. It's a reversal of the Mage's quest; the stagnant Mage must embrace diversity wheras the directionless Seer embraces their certain path.

Point D. The practical function of the Seer.

Apologies, this is going to be mostly just about Rose.

Rose's role in her session post-ascension is to understand and inform her session-mates about the most fortuitous path. Her visions allow her to comprehend Light and sift through the endless possibilities and synthesis of her Aspect to find the most precise outcome. They grow to be an indispensible well of knowledge; always learning and finding out their Aspect's truth.

Terezi does the same, albeit without ascending; her greatest moment of heroism is the prelude to the Retcon, which she directly causes. Terezi applies all of her knowledge of consequence, cause & effect to undo the resultant consequences of the actions taken by her sessionmates. She uses her comprehension of Mind to her utmost ability; which is why I find it gut-wrenching that she still believes she was never enough.

Kankri... does jack shit other than be a whiny little bootlicker, but The Signless certainly applies his Aspect for the greater good. The fire of his rebellion and his pursuit of unity and free communication on Alternia ignite the spark of revolution for generations to come; his quest for Blood bringing utmost comprehension and sight of unity.

Overall, this is one Class where the narrative:practical lines tend to blur a little, owing to the general non-combatant status of the Classes in general. Rose shows they're capable of using their Aspect in combat just as all players are; but it seems clear to me that they function the best as advisors.

Next week, I'll be elucidating on the Witches & Heirs; which will be an interesting one since it'll require me to actually understand what a Witch does. That should be fun.

Take care, everybody. I know nothing.

[hornetsstuck]

HORNETSSTUCK: What I have so far

Right, so, if you're here, you probably know what this is all about. Either you're here from the post I made on my main blog or happened to be innocently scrolling Tumblr and came across my monstrosity.

I'll be upd8ing this post regularly to include more details the more progress I make; character designs, story beats (that don't spoil too much), artwork and such. For now, a brief overview of the ideas in my head right now. I'm assuming from this point forward you have a decent understanding of both Homestuck & Marble Hornets.

Story

The basic idea I had was replacing Alex's descent into obsession and madness over the Operator during the MH filming process with an obsession with playing SBURB. He'd be the one to obtain a copy of the game (because MH characters seem to have a habit of attracting weird, fucked-up tapes and such) and suggest playing it to the others. Alex would probably also occupy the role of being the session's Skaia cloud viewer or whatever (like Jade & Kanaya) though I don't see them having a Space player to start with.

The initial session would consist of the main four guys in the MH cast: Jay, Alex, Brian and Tim, each one joining the session in that order. Story beats would obviously take cues from the main plot of Marble Hornets, but I'd be telling my own original story with the same cast. After all, things are gonna play out a lot differently with SBURB involved.

Characters

I've got chumhandles, hex colours and Classpects down for five of the main characters. I plan on including all of the film cast at some point (so yes, Sarah, Seth & Amy will show up) as well as Jessica and, of course, the star of our show.

Jay's handle is veridicalKenophobia (#86C400) and he is a Seer of Void.

Alex's handle is corbanAlexipharmia (#2D3273) and he is a Prince of Light.

Brian's handle is acosmistAnticryptic (#C8C846) and he is a Witch of Mind.

Tim's handle is visardEmptysis (#500000) and he is an Heir of Heart.

Jessica's handle is vaccinalAtaraxia (#64965A) and she is a Muse of Breath.

Relationships

I don't see shipping playing a major role in this story at all, so sorry to disappoint all the yaoi fans out there. If you really want to know my opinion, I do kinda like Jam (Jay/Tim) so there might be undertones of that here and there but I don't see me canonising anything. The guys have more important things to worry about than dating, sorry, bro.

To be continued at a later date with more information.

[cgtg]

VOID PLAYERZ ONLY

as with the prev polls: if you consider multiple, i suggest going for the one u feel aligned with currently/most often, which one u wanna represent in a poll like this, whichever has the most compelling role/narrative, whatever works for U. classpecting is very subjective, and fluid for a lot of people.

i actively encourage discussion in the replies of what your class and aspect mean to u. simple or lengthy, i wanna hear it :J

excluding master classes bc no space for em, sorry.

for those who cant vote: i’d appreciate u passing the poll along. also, i’ll likely post updates throughout the week on how it’s going so everyone can have a peek inside. thank u

[aortaobservatory]

hello! might I hear what you've to say for a seer of void? 👁️

Seer of [Void]:

Know - Too Little Experience with Void

A player who lacks experience with [The Unknown and Possibilities], leading to a fierce drive to study [Secrecy and Potential] and gradually learning of its potential to affect them or the ones around them

A Seer of Void is surrounded by knowledge and meaning, and lacks secrecy and the ability for potentials in their life, and as a result are driven to learn everything they can about unknown possibilities in order to understand what they previously lacked.

Seers study their aspect, craving knowledge of it from their previous lack of it. They seek knowledge of their aspect with a fierce intensity in order to gain more understanding of it, acknowledging the potential consequences of doing so and dealing with them later. Their challenge is to learn how to translate their insight and knowledge into action and decision, as well as learn how to manage their engagement with their aspect so as to not overwhelm themself or others.

Inverse Classpect Analysis of Seer

Seer of Void: Void (Secrecy, Unknown, Potential, Possibilities) is passive and lacking. Too little experience with aspect causes lack of understanding of it.

Inverse: Witch of Light

Light (Knowledge, Evaluation, Insight, Meaning) is actively changed within the Seer as they experience Void (Secrecy, Unknown, Potential, Possibilities) to understand it from its passive presence.

Light (Knowledge, Evaluation, Insight, Meaning) embodies the Seer, but is changed to Void (Secrecy, Unknown, Potential, Possibilities) as they experience Void (Secrecy, Unknown, Potential, Possibilities).

The analysis written above is my own writing, analysis, and thoughts. The statements are my own analysis, but they may function as a “fill in the blank” statement for you to create your own interpretation of the classpect as you please.

-aortaObservatory

[miel-hehe]

keep sending me reqs through my askbox i like doing this (trades would be cool too) :)

sorry I didn't separate them lol

@lightningxwave @unusable-account-bye @lasloser-mc-useless @mlg-reblogstation @the-color-of-sound-is-space

[excessive-description-later]

the void is fun. come to the void!

i say,

come to the void.

[douchebagsdoingclasspectingnow]

SEER OF VOID BEAM!!!!

Literally reverse rose lalonde, very nice.

The Seer is someone who studies their main Aspect by using its opposite as a source. Rose consulted the Horrorterrors and Doc Scratch (an entity she didnt exactly knew very well about and used to leave pretty vague about information although he infact did never lie) as a way to get information (Light), and Terezi used roleplay and impersonation/assumption (Heart motif) as a way of tracing logic (Mind) between the facts.

Void is the Aspect that deals with vagueness in general. It doesn't necessarily embody inexistence although it is one of its motifs, more likely it is the stuff that it's there but its not plainly obvious to the naked eye. That's also why i believe invisible energy/connection is one of Void's motifs, due to the abundance of internet signal on the Furthest Ring and the Fenestrated Planes being a thing.

The Seer of Void would be someone who wants to learn about Void by getting it through Light. This is more likely someone who would consult every type of readable source about Void there is to know the most of. Someone who would try to comprehend the uncomprehendable with information. You could have someone that tries to understand the Horrorterrors by consulting every bit of information there is, someone who wants to understand ignorance by doing detailed studies of it, someone who wants to comprehend mysteries or possibly find clues by using special glasses/visions, and many more stuff.

The Seer's growth is that he needs to take care of himself to NOT be corrupted by his opposite Aspect to the point where it forbiddens him. Rose had this in a more literal sense with her Grimdark form symbolizing her blind trust in the Horrorterrors's words and Terezi had in a more metaphorical sense with her feelings (Heart) interrupting her in the most crucial hours and preventing her from doing the right thing, like her not killing Gamzee on [S] GAME OVER for example.

This gets really interesting when we're talking about a Seer of Void. Maybe this Seer doesn't really get to know Void very well exactly because he's only studying theoretical information about it and isn't properly experiencing it, or maybe something more literal like his binding to Light makes him more of a target/enemy to the Horrorterrors than an ally, or maybe even a opposite Grimdark form if you want to play with that.

Anyway, the general rule of the Seer is that they want to comprehend their main Aspect by studying their opposite in some way. In this Seer's case he wants to comprehend vagueness by getting information about it. Make of that what you will.

[val-ritz]

A Seer of Void having a sort of "What our purpose is" conversation with the Mage of Time, who is becoming discouraged.

S: "Look. I can't understand what you're feeling if you won't tell me anything. Please, I need you to use your words for one solitary minute of your existence, and then you can go back to being a stoic asshole."

M: "...You want me to tell you what I'm feeling? What I'm thinking? What I'm thinking is that we are utterly useless. Ever since the Frog died, we've been stuck here, and there's literally nothing for us! The Queens are both dead, the carapaces are terrified and hiding in whatever shelters we built for them when we still gave a shit, and every day the flow of Time doesn't change! It's just... there. Extending out into nothingness. Can you comprehend that?"

S: "Considering that I am literally a god of nothingness, yes, smartass, I can. If I may, let me offer a rebuttal: how about you pull out whatever cactus you've managed to shove into your ass and actually LOOK around you. Everyone but you has managed to find some reason to keep living, and that's because you're so fucking preoccupied with the future that you refuse to do anything about it in the present. You know why nothing happens in all the futures you see? Because we can't fucking do it without you! We need you! Shit, I need you."

M: "...You need me, huh?"

S: "You are the worst person."

[rogue-of-heart-classpecting]

do ya still do session analysis, if not that's fine, but can you analyze a Derse Seer of Void please?

The Seer of Void. Ok, let's just talk about derse first really quick.

Derse is sort of like... Acceptance of reality? Derse/Prospit are designed to reflect Rage and Hope aspects. (You can still be a Prospit Rage player or a Derse Hope player like Gamzee and Eridan both were.) Lunar sway is kind of about the way you face new events. Prospit players tend to leap forward and are kind of uncomplicated optimists who go out and do the thing without thinking. Derse players like to strategize and maybe agonize over possibility. They're more private people who maybe have secrets to keep. And it also can come down to whether you prefer the horrorterrors or future clouds.

A Seer of Void would be familiar with the secret, the undiscovered, the unimportant, all that kind of stuff. This is the kind of person who would be able to hear and maybe understand the horrorterrors' whisperings. The Seer's job is to research and learn about their aspect in order to guide others. This player might be able to see "behind the curtain" of sburb and understand its inner workings. They should then communicate this to their team.

[etherealbiocide]

STUCK ... STUCK? PIECES 🎆✨️⚙️❤️💚💙🖤

Some digital pieces I've done for the MSPFA story 'Stuck...Stuck?', made by me, @digitalminstrel  , @seeingstarzz and @henryscircus ! :)

The first piece is OVERTHINKING, a piece done with pixel brushes starring God tiered Wren and regular Kipp, inspired by the lyrics from Overthinking - Mabel.

The second piece is SBURBICIDE, another pixel brush piece that was honestly meant to be a shitpost since it was inspired by the "come with us to equestria" image 😭 but it looked cool and was plot accurate so I decided to finalise it! :) it stars Stan and Adam.

The third piece is ANTICHRIST, which is just a cool bust of Adam tbh and doesn't have any lore worth noting at all.

If you're interested in Homestuck/Sburb fan comics, then feel free to give Stuck...Stuck? A read! :) it isn't super long at the moment, but it can be read here! ---> https://mspfa.com/?s=57315&p=1

[Reblogs are appreciated!] [PLEASE DO NOT USE MY ART AS YOUR PFP WITHOUT PERMISSION.]

[starlit1daydream]

might be cooking with this one actually guys. seer of void wednesday addams and maid of heart enid sinclair

[maidofhearteditz]

Could I ask for a Seer of Void stimboard?

It would be nice if it included crystal balls and tarot cards :3

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3833< Seer of void stimboard w tarot card, crystal ball, book, and black/void stims X3

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[cgtg]

[fraymotifsbeyond]

Hello! I wanted to ask for something related to Seer of Void, but had trouble coming up with a combo. So, maybe Heir of Blood because it's a cool classpect, or Seer of Light, for the duality? Up to you :3

Seer/Void + Heir/Blood Secrecy Bloodlock

By observing secrets, the seer of void finds an item that is important for that secrecy (A Book containing dark secrets, A Doll that secretly contains the soul of a timelord) And the heir of blood will extend the ability of protection by blood to it.

This causes the item's secrets can only observed so long as the Heir allows and trusts the person who tries to observe it to have that information. Otherwise, it's obfuscated.

So for a person who tries to see the book's secrets in ANY WAY will be met gibberish text, and a heart player observing that cursed doll will see an obfuscated identity.

Seer/Void + Seer/Light The Hidden Sub-Knowledge

The Seer of Light observes a certain piece of information, and the Seer of Void observes it's nuance and mystery to see if said information complete and objective, or incomplete/subjective.

[prince-of-time-pt]

Can I get a show of hands who actually is a Seer irl? I have maybe seen one in the wild. For science also drop your aspect.