#metroid kriken

[wacktroid]

adir ref sheet done!!

[nerdy-the-artist]

Concept: Kriken is exiled from his home for the usual coming of age planet conquering ritual. He decides to enter the Galactic Federation, ambitious enough to steal a Federation world for the empire. However, he ends up actually appreciating the Galactic Federation and defecting to their side, giving seminars about the dangers of the Kriken’s xenophobic philosophy.

[lord-rodentia]

buh

Low quality drawing, ig

Info under cut.

Their names in question?

Qixi [Chi-shi], Halé'ethé (or Halé [Hah-ley], or full [Hah-ley, Eth-ey]), Kuro-Kuro [Koo-row, Koo-row], Haanin [Hah-neen], and Icke [pronounced like eek.]

To who?

Qixi belongs to bird boy (the Chozo Hybrid) in the left< Halé'ethé is the red one (The Kriken)< Kuro-Kuro is gold boy (The Enoema), Haanin is purple (The Vhozon), and Icke is the middle girl (The Space Pirate).

They are all tied to two projects: To be the Hunted {recently changed to be Metroid only} and Error Sector-07 {about 14 years after TbtH}

Important maybe?:

Halé'ethé was removed from the Kriken Empire for her safety. Kuro-Kuro was hidden away for his safety. Icke was artificially made which explains some of her appearance but also taken away for safety.

The only reason all five of those kids know eachother is because of an event that occurs early in TbtH, and they proceed to still know eachother until ES07 where they're not as friendly to eachother {Halé'ethé immediately forgets everyone after TbtH}.

Qixi and Icke are the only two hybrids of the group, Qixi being Chozo-human and Icke being Space Pirate-Human (both with 80:20 ratios). Everyone else is not a Hybrid or modified in anyway.

ALSO LOOK AT THEIR LIL' OUTFITS, THEY'RE SO CUTE!

[sepublic]

So are they planning to do a new Metroid Prime trilogy with Beyond as the first installment, or is the series merely being redefined as a quadrilogy instead? If it’s the former, we might see Sylux as a recurring antagonist the way Dark Samus was, and that makes me wonder if we’ll even get answers in Beyond, or if that will again be saved for a future game.

And if there’s a new trilogy, then… Why not bring in the Kriken Empire as antagonists, at least for one game? Hunters helped to expand the world a bit more, and if it already used one hunter to set up a main antagonist for a future mainline entry, why not do the same for another? Maybe all of the hunters, or at least a few, were designed and considered as potential future storylines. Imagine a game where we help Spire learn what happened to his people… Come to think of it, a time travel mechanic introduced in Beyond could be used to solve that very mystery. Maybe Spire should show up in this game.

[autoacafiles]

[coldgoldlazarus]

Kanden & Samus: Genetic soup supersoldiers made as such by reclusive alien groups. Power seekers trying to become stronger still to achieve their respective goals.

Spire & Samus: Lonely as fuck. Friend-shaped and generally decent, but still dangerous and ruthless when forced to be.

Trace & Samus: Significant ties to an important precursor race. (If my Kriken/Alimbics theory has any merit, anyway.)

Weavel & Samus: Independent hunters that regardless maintain a connection to their faction of origin. Have a deep grudge against a major figure from the opposite faction.

Noxus & Samus: Driven by a moral code, and a desire to do good by preventing others from doing harm.

Sylux & Samus: Mysterious cryptids to most, (tragic backstories maybe?), using tech far more advanced than typical of the setting. Grudge against a major faction, and deadly and terrifying to the members of that faction. Metroid hatchling companion.

With the possible exception of Trace, I wonder if making the other Hunters externalizations of different facets of Samus's character taken to their logical extremes, was done on purpose. Even if it's not quite as direct and thematically poignant a parallel as the SA-X and arguably Dark Samus are to different eras of Samus's life, (though hopefully Sylux will wind up at that level when all is said and done) it's still an interesting decision that more could have been done with, and I hope more is done with at some point.

[dappercat123]

Who hires the other hunters?

So this is a question I’d seen heard in regards to the hunters from Metroid prime hunters, especially with characters who are enemies of Samus’ usual employer the galactic federation

My guess is, aside from their home factions, they’re likely hired by local planetary governments and private interests

Chances are the federation aren’t the only employer of bounty hunters in the galaxy, it seems while the federation exists planets seem to have their own governments as well who may have use for a bounty hunter,

So while hunters like weavel can obviously work for the space pirates, or trace for the Kriken, they could also get jobs from morally unscrupulous private parties.

Which does make me think of some interesting possibilities for the universe, are there traitors to the federation who act on the pirates behalf? We know sylux hates the federation for heretofore unknown ideological reasons but are there traitors who are in it for purely self serving reasons like money or power? We already know the federation are sketchy but imagine high ranking federation officials selling out secrets to the pirates.

[lividria]

i was hoping metroid prime 4 would make the kriken empire the main antagonists and sylux is instead like how prime 2 handled dark samus but now that i'm thinking of alternatives right now, another member of gorea's species showing up, instantly exploding sylux and starting the final boss fight would be one of the funniest out of nowhere twists they could pull

[mu-te33]

Hii!! This is for the metroid ask game!

- favorite ridley design?

- favorite bounty hunter besides samus?

- favorite npc?

I LOVE YOUR RIDLEY ART SO MUCH😢😢 you really do him so much justice and characterize him so well❤️ I especially love your birdie hc!

Hiii

-Manga Ridley, easily. From his expressions and his characterization, he is what I think of when I think of the character. Absolute elite design. My favorite part is how heavily shadowed he is illustrated, makes him look extra menacing.

-ooohh, this is a toughie. I really like Gandrayda though, i like her playful personality and sass that I think makes for an interesting dynamic with Samus. The shapeshifting ability is quite fascinating too.

I always thought Trace was interesting too, along with the whole Kriken Empire that I can't say I wouldn't mind seeing expanded upon a bit more 👀

- I gotta go with my boy Anthony Higgs. I think its pretty neat Samus had some friends in her Federation days. I would love to see him, and though not likely, Mauk and Kreatz again 🥺

AHHH THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! He is my favorite ever, my boy deserves all the justice as a character 😤

ahhfdhfhd thank you, I have like so much more I want to share about my birdie hc

[lividria]

i think the most interesting direction they could go with weavel as a character, is that the majority of space pirates side with sylux because of the whole common enemy shtick (enemy being samus & the GF) and sylux being like a charismatic leader type maybe and also bringing them metroids, but for some reason weavel is personally opposed to sylux, maybe because of them being rivals during Hunters or maybe because they're thinking of how dark samus took over the space pirates as a cult leader in prime 3 and see some worrying similarities, so it's either 1v1v1 (samus vs weavel vs sylux) or samus & weavel team up to take down sylux or at least don't hinder each other's efforts, even though samus almost fucking killed him in his backstory

meanwhile sylux could team up with another Hunters rival to even the playing field, maybe kanden? i'd be inclined to say trace but even the space pirates hate kriken so unless sylux team-switches halfway through the game or something (it was said in an interview that the federation & pirates would team up to exterminate the kriken if necessary, so if that happened sylux would be pissed actually) then trace is probably on their own if they even appear at all

though it would be really, really cool if it was samus & literally every other Hunters rival all teaming up to fight sylux and his entourage all at once for a final boss

considering sylux seem to have control of a group of space pirates what if they're working with weavel too!?

[wacktroid]

quick adir doodle

[phantasmeels]

Alright, so I watched a recent video by ThatMetroidGuy on YouTube that contained a bit of a Metroid Dread theory on the Federation and the real purpose of the EMMI. I have a bit of a further hypothesis on that. It is based on previous series lore and the image shown above, which has some information that was pointed out in his video.

To start, consider the relationship between the Chozo people and the Federation as depicted in the Metroid Manga. It is quite apparent that the Chozo, being actively invested in the well-being of galactic civilzation, would have given their support in helping the Federation come together, grow and thrive, before their inevitable decline and disappearance from galactic civilization. Implicitly, the two groups would have been close and in consistent contact.

Now, what are some things the Chozo civilization and the Federation have in common that are important? In pre-localized Japanese in-game text, it's implied that there's a splinter group of the Federation that's interested in making bioweapons for its own ends. If you don't buy that specifically, then it can be seen in the localized games that at least a significant part of the Federation has that interest. Specifically in developing powerful creatures like X-parasites and Metroids for their own purposes. The Chozo, meanwhile, have a warrior tribe in their society, the Mawkin tribe. Raven Beak, the tribe's leader, is shown in Dread to be actively interested in having Metroids under his power, for the sake of galactic power and control. Since he can't have the Metroids, as Samus made them all extinct, he goes after Samus's newer Metroid DNA instead to make his own, at least at first. Leading me to ask, how does he know about Samus’s new Metroid genetics? It's one thing that he could have learned about how she's the one who wiped out the Metroids on galactic news or something (unless, of course, that's classified information), but how did he know of her genetic changes, where they saved her life from an X infection using Metroid DNA?

My hypothesis is that there is some real secret conspiracy stuff going on here. I posit that Raven Beak, as part of the Chozo people who long had relations with the Federation before they dwindled to obscurity, has conspirators in the Federation halls who feed him classified information, and those conspirators are the ones actively interested in having Metroid and X bioweapons. This is why, conveniently, the EMMI are sent as 'research robots' for finding the X parasites, but conveniently have the specific ability to extract a creature's genetic information, and has data on Samus specifically in their databanks, as seen in the image above. I think that the entire situation presented in Metroid Dread was engineered between Raven Beak and (at least part of) the Federation in order to: 1) Eliminate Samus from the picture, as she has actively interfered in both factions' designs, 2) Give Raven Beak metroid DNA from Samus by way of the EMMI for his own ends, and 3) Provide the Federation with an X parasite sample that I'm willing to bet they never gave up on obtaining.

In the long term, either Raven Beak planned on continuing to work with this part of the Federation for their own shared goals of harsh galactic control, or maybe planned to even subjugate them in the end. Between the two of them, the populations of both X and Metroid could be carefully controlled and unleashed against their enemies (such as, say, any remaining Space Pirates, or the Kriken Empire mentioned in Prime Hunters). As for the Federation, they would know that all it would take to get Samus to go somewhere, such as right into a trap, would be to use an X-parasite as bait. Thus my conspiracy hypothesis here. Either way, the whole convenience of certain details in  Dread's premise seems a little too much for me. Given that the writers haven't touched on the Federation's intentions any further after Fusion as of yet, instead leaving it unresolved, I feel like there's more to dig into what we were given in Dread.

[lord-rodentia]

[this post chain will not have specific dates on when each one comes out. Also, this is mainly HC's since we know nothing about these things]

I got uncontrollably bored, and I happened to remember the cool thing that prime does when you scan lifeforms [X-ray :)]

I'm now going to be doing this for the folks who didn't get that cool function (Vhozon, Kriken, etc.)

I made two versions of this, the white one for easier reading and the blueish-black one for proper X-ray view in similar prime style [ever wondered why they made the organs orange?]

We're starting off with the Kriken. [Non altered]

[altered Kriken have significantly different bodies in the general torso region. Altered form may be crafted later, or never, who's to say?]

So much info below, good luck if you want to read that.

Since I ran out of space, I wanted to talk about the eggs a little more. Not only are they translucent with tiny critter inside but also, if you look closely, I added a detail implying the person making the biology report {who will be a character only mentioned in dialogue} missed that Kriken start with their head attached and while getting out of the egg, they're head has more free range to do whatever.

The eggs are also really hard on the outside meaning they're safe if left alone, nothing can break into the casing due to a strong film coating the egg (which the residue from that promotes growth on exoskeleton [provided if limbs first]) that prevents things like that from happening.

Yes, unfortunately such itty bitty critters are also very cannibalistic at birth. They will eat eachother meaning that if there's usually a litter of eggs, only 20% of the babies actually survive while the others get eaten. I don't make the rules, biology does. Despite eating eachother, the eggs are also edible so if there's only one or two Kriken eggs, there's a lower chance of it starving. Eggs also provide 50% the nutrition they need for growth.

As the Kriken young do grow, the cannibalism goes away. In exchange for a blessing, none remember anything before they turn 6 years old meaning anything that they have done is only known by the parent but of course, even the parent doesn't remember it sometimes.

Nuff bout' the eggs.

Yes, I did state that Kriken can chirp with their shoulder blades. They have a specific set of joints around that area that allows them to do that and it makes a chirp sound when they do, the HC idea is that they use it for communication instead of other reasons. The chirping is at a specific frequency that can only be heard by anyone else at a specific distance, otherwise, all Kriken can hear it.

And yeah, I gave them a specific height limit because Trace is at Samus' height (in power suit 6'3") and in his introductory, all Kriken present showed the same height. No short Kriken and no tall Kriken, all of them were the same height. So I set it to where any other growth that'd benefit height would go elsewhere in a Kriken's body like strength, immune system, etc.

Also, I don't entirely understand that head thing, but I like the idea that it's a symbiosis thing between body and head that work together.

The physical form of a Kriken differs depending on surgical enhancements.

[sepublic]

To illustrate my point on some Metroid world building I did regarding a whole 'natural caste system' that people believe in and/or struggle with, consider: A lot of pilots have better reflexes and faster reaction times. This makes them ideal for high-speed combat. A lot of pilots are natural fliers, who are naturally evolved to go through the air at top velocity anyway.

Similarly, military leaders and those who have to make split-second decisions are typically species who perceive time more slowly than the average one, which enables them to process events more quickly, and come to more reasoned solutions.

When it comes to retail or the 24/7 news, businesses prefer species who can stay awake for longer periods of time; They don't need to be particularly strong, just capable of constant activity. Likewise, it's better for these species to require less sleep when they eventually do rest.

Actors are all about expression; Species with flexible faces, more moving bits to convey themselves through, emotive colors; They tend to get higher billing as movie stars. Similarly, vocal range makes for better singers, and those more attuned to subtler frequencies and noises are more likely to be on-pitch as musicians.

Species that can adapt to varying environments, and have good stamina, make for excellent explorers; They also function well as an intergalactic military, because it's cheaper to base all your infrastructure and equipment around a specific body type. And if you have to use one species, use one capable of adjusting to a wide diversity of biomes, adequately strong, and capable of outlasting enemies in combat; Hence, Earthians being the primary infantry.

If you work in space, it's so much cheaper if you're a species who can naturally survive in a vacuum. That way, employers save out on having to pay extra for equipment to keep you alive. Jobs can include construction in space, maintenance, exploration, rescue, etc.

Meanwhile, the Kriken believe there are no species who are better at any functions than them; With their Biomorph innovation, they can program individual Kriken to take on select traits for select situations. And if all other species are now redundant, then what use is there for them? Even the Space Pirates believe in exploiting other species, alive, for a purpose; Their issue comes from wanting mastery over those they still need. Meanwhile, the Kriken are truly adaptable and this is one of many factors that makes them such a terrifying military force.

This plays a factor into the Federation’s interest in the X parasites; Their perfect mimicry and ability to remix genomes and traits, enhancing them and improving upon pre-existing life forms, makes them superior to the Kriken’s Biomorph innovation. They are a species the Kriken would’ve never considered; Something better than them at something, something that makes even the Kriken’s Biomorph redundant because it comes naturally to any X, who individually can contain multiple genomes and are considered by some to be the ultimate life form. If the Kriken were to have learned of the X, they could’ve sparked a genuine, existential fear that no Kriken has ever felt in millennia.

Meanwhile, the Federation is used to many species being better than them at some things; The Federation is not a monolithic, singular species after all. They do not fanatically believe in wiping out any they see redundant, and are only made that way by the X, who are too non-sapient to even consider as a superior species to worship; They’re just a tool… And even if one were to acknowledge a species as ‘better’, they would still rightfully want to live and not be subjugated. And that is exactly why many object not just to the Space Pirates, but to this ‘natural caste system’ of species niches that the Federation seems to run on.

[coldgoldlazarus]

Echoes and Hunters are really interesting to me because of their place relative to the rest of the series, as basically the closest thing to being self-contained Filler Episodes in Samus's life. It can be argued the Prime games as a whole are a filler arc, what with how you really don't need to play the Trilogy to understand the 2D games' ongoing narrative. Even so, it is still a whole arc within itself; despite being decent standalone titles, the phazon connection spanning all three enriches them in conjunction with one-another, and Corruption in particular leans a lot on the setup the first two provide.

Yet at the same time, while definitely connected to the other two, Echoes is distinctly the odd one out in a lot of ways, and the overarching phazon storyline seems almost incidental at times despite Dark Samus and the background setup of the conflict. It's not confirmed either way, but the dark world could be read as a pocket universe created by the leviathan seed malfunctioning, or a whole parallel dimension that it simply broke through into and created the copy of Aether within. Even if it is the latter, the Ing were probably a byproduct of the interaction of Phazon and the dark dimension, but there is also the possibility the were a distinct entity existing beforehand. Regardless of all of that, the Luminoth and Aether as a location certainly stand out as unique, and are only loosely connected to the bigger picture through a shared history with the Chozo.

Hunters, meanwhile, may wind up tying into Prime 4 through Sylux, but that too is extremely incidental to the main story focus, which is even more outright disconnected from the usual Metroid factions and concepts than even Echoes is. As people have joked about before, it really says something that killing Gorea, a terrible eldritch abomination that singlehandedly wiped out an entire galactic-region-spanning civilization, is probably one of the least important things Samus has done in her career. Even that aside, apart from Sylux and Weavel, most of the other hunters are similarly unique and disconnected from the established story, with Trace and the Kriken Empire in particular standing out as an elephant in the room that are weirdly less relevant than the info on them would imply.

And I love the overarching storyline, both of the Prime games and the series as a whole, and how the different mainline titles are for the most part thematically enriched by their interconnectivity and parallels. (Even Proteus Ridley, for all the problems I have with him, I do appreciate as a clear bridge between Corruption and Super.) But there is also something really fascinating to these two more avant-garde titles, that really expand the universe and try new things, instead of remaining confined to the core concepts the series usually keeps a tight focus on.

There is a risk of going too far and possibly losing sight of the aesthetic/thematic shore, so to speak, but I feel like we're not quite there yet, and I appreciate the effort to branch out. On the flipside, there is again some weirdness to some of this stuff being so confined instead of having a bigger impact, (looking at you Trace) but the level of tightness of the mainline games does kinda work in our favor here. Sure it's weird, but it's not out of the realm of plausibility that the Kriken really are a big deal, but just... elsewhere, and mostly haven't directly relevant to Samus's life outside of this one-off run-in with Trace.

Idk, I'm not really going anywhere in particular with this, I just think it's neat.

[lividria]

some notes & clarifications under the cut btw

i doubt anybody expects ridley, kraid or weavel to be the final boss but just in case, they'd fall under space pirate

something created/caused by sylux & the space pirates would be like some kind of horrid evolved mochtroid, a monster that crawled out of a black hole the space pirates created, some sort of ancient entity the space pirates woke up/unleashed like gorea, shit like that, but probably specifically something they're not in control of and/or officially part of the crew otherwise it'd fall under space pirate because otherwise i think mecha ridley would fall under this

threat not seen in the trailer but established in the past would be like, something from the kriken empire, something created by the federation, another bounty hunter we've met before, the fucking emperor ing making a special guest appearance somehow, you get the idea

threat not seen in the trailer and new to metroid prime 4 is saying like how the ing just kinda appeared out of nowhere for metroid prime 2 independent of anything else in the franchise (even though dark samus was allied with them and the leviathan landing created dark aether iirc but you know what i mean), or could just be like a new bounty hunter rival besides sylux and the other guys from mp:h, you get the idea again

i have seen literally nobody say phazon will return after the trailer but just in case, fun fact i once found this old youtube video from several years ago for a fanmade phazon-infected sylux boss theme and i think about that a lot (though that would fall under sylux for the purposes of this poll lol)

i think a couple of these answers could overlap, just pick whichever one feels most accurate to your idea

i'd like to see specific answers beyond these categories in the comments or reblogs or something just out of curiosity but idk you don't have to lol (especially if you don't have like a specific answer like i don't)