#order 66 without order 66

[ominouspuff]

Memories

[ifuckedyrmum]

Would be funny if Jod Na Nawood was such a space-failure that he was kicked out of the jedi before he even became a padawan.

Imagine he got taken as a kid and trained up to become a padawan but all the Jedi Masters were like: “nah the force isn’t compelling me to train him”

And he then just got slapped into the service corps before he could ever properly continue. That’s why his skills with the force and a lightsaber are so bare bones (from what we’ve seen thus far). But he still got the jedi code rattling around up there and haunting him.

[corellianhounds]

I know we (rightfully) give Attack of the Clones a lot of grief for Obi-Wan just being able to show up unannounced and for him to just be given the literal biggest state secrets possibly of the entire war, in addition to how this cloning operation has been going on for like a decade without anyone knowing anything or any documentation crossing Mace Windu’s desk, but considering Sifo Dyas or Dooku or whoever was able to somehow erase an entire planet from (allegedly) every known bit of data collection or documentation, it could be argued that maybe Dyas and Dooku were just master forgers and had fake correspondence and reports going between them and the Kaminoans for over a decade now.

It’s not that far of a leap to say they got their hands on some heavily encrypted software on some very expensive computers and were able to imitate different speech patterns and documents and handwriting and official stamps or even holograms and holocalls. As far as the Kaminoans know, all of their contacts are fully aware and in the know about this clone army (because as far as they know, Sifo Dyas is alive and had to have been in communication recently)— When Obi-Wan shows up, it just happened to be at the exact time Dooku was the one supposed to be there in person himself that day. The Kaminoans did greet him as Master Jedi and said he was expected.

Obviously that could have only worked in the movie if Dooku had shown up and we saw him having to keep his cool/sneak around when some other Kaminoans tell him his “assistant” has already arrived, would you like us to escort you to him?

Internally Dooku’s thinking “WHOMST??” but externally he’s keeping his chill while searching the Force for whoever else might be— is that OBI-WAN KENOBI??

It’s soooooo tasty for Qui-Gon’s master and Qui-Gon’s apprentice to meet under these circumstances. Both of them know the other shouldn’t be there right now. They’re both having to play it cool in front of the Kaminoans, and this is even besides the fact Kenobi was there to find the bounty hunter assassin in the first place.

“I didn’t think you… were still as active in the Order,” Obi-Wan says slowly and diplomatically, knowing for a FACT that Dooku left the Order a long time ago.

“I… retired from active service,” Dooku says, equally diplomatically. “I act as a… consultant from time to time.”

“It’s soooo funny how I’ve never heard anything about that or this clone army the Jedi ordered,” Obi-Wan says, making direct eye contact with Dooku and probably trying to read his mind (to no avail). “The one they ordered ten years ago before there was ever any thought of the Jedi being actively involved on the frontlines of what isn’t a declared war. What would the Jedi want with a military in the first place?”

“How old are you, young one?” Dooku deflects in that fake kindly condescending grandfatherly voice. “How long have you been on the Council— Oh you’re just a Kniiiiight, that’s right, okay I see. How interesting. How much information are you actually privilege to, Obi-Wan?”

And this is all happening even before Obi-Wan Nancy Drew’d his way to Jango Fett’s private quarters!

Obi-Wan KNOWS he can’t go rogue right now when he’s that far from his ship on a city surrounded by an ocean and a literal army of clones soldiers (of that one super efficient bounty hunter, whenever it is he finds that out) all apparently under the command (?) of someone who definitely definitely super should not be speaking or doing or ordering anything under the name of the Jedi Order.

Count Dooku (who he doesn’t even know is a Sith yet) could very easily accuse him of being an impostor and have him detained or attacked or killed on sight. Zam Wessel was already established to be a shapeshifter in this movie, so it’s not outside the realm of possibility for Obi-Wan to not be who he says he is (which is kinda true?? since he WASN’T the Jedi ambassador for the Temple there to pick up his to-go order of a quarter-million identical men, with a million more on the way??). The Kaminoans might not even know much else about Jedi and Sith aesthetics besides “Wears robes” so if Dooku pulled a red lightsaber it might not even faze them, since he’d be able to provide more information and correspondence proving he’s the ‘actual’ Jedi anyway

Like can you imagine a fight breaking out not just between Kenobi and Jango, but a team-up of Jango and Dooku against Kenobi? That would have jumpstarted some of this clone army business a lot earlier in the movie and actually addressed what should have been the biggest conspiracy, coverup, and militaristic move of the MILLENNIUM

[solo-walker]

So, Anakin mowing down the younglings is pretty well known atp, but I randomly wondered... was it absolutely necessary to do that?? Could you not simply re-educate the young Jedi, create your own messed up little army of darkside force-wielding children?

Born from a joke during a conversation with @pjo-tvs-version, here's a star wars crack AU, laughingly dubbed...

SITH SCHOOL AU

Anakin doesn't kill the younglings, and doesn't go to Mustafar. Instead, he stays behind on Coruscant to establish a new institution, a.k.a the titular 'Sith School'. Pulpy Palpatine thinks it'll be a good idea to fortify the place and start brainwashing teaching the younglings ASAP. Catch 'em young, as they say.

Obi-Wan catches wind of the turn of affairs and, still reeling from the shock of it all, decides to not confront Anakin/Vader. He informs Padmé of what has happened and stops her from trying to go find Anakin. They leave Coruscant as fast as possible to find a safe place to regroup with the survivors, bide their time and decide upon their next move.

Flash forward a few years, Padmé is now one of the leaders of the Rebellion and raising her twin children along with 'Uncle Obi-Wan'. Anakin/Vader is running the 'Sith School' along with Palpatine while keeping an iron grip on the state of affairs. The Rebellion clashes with the Empire and he manages to sense that his kid (I'm going with the headcanon that he can only sense Luke) is alive somewhere, presumably with Padmé. How wonderfully convenient would it be, he thinks, if he could bring his kid to the Sith School!

He decides to contact Padmé while Pulpy looks on this development with growing alarm and starts to play Mind Games^TM again. Not only will this throw a potential spanner in his plans, but may also disrupt the regimented manipulation of the minds of the students of the Sith School!

Anyway, so Vader holocalls Padmé who is desperately trying to control two powerful force-wielding toddlers and is understandably furious like

"HOW DARE YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO PROPOSE THIS YOU PIECE OF BANTHA-"

"Padmé, listen to me, this is about our child's education-"

"Correction: Children. And trust me, you wouldn't last a day with them." *cuts the holocall*

Vader is miffed, distracted and shocked ("Children?? PLURAL???") while Palpatine is losing his mind in the background.

[nightskyfoxyy]

A rare Blyla sketch? In this economy?

(Ngl I love these two)

[fellthemarvelous]

Ahsoka sassing the shit out of Anakin and making Rex laugh the first time they meet.

Anakin had never before experienced such betrayal from his own Captain.

[koyacyi-vode]

made the mistake of reading a reddit thread on star wars clones again

[jewishcissiekj]

world's worst haircut haver (I have another drawings of them I just don't like it)

[thornychairman]

Also, unless you got your Rotomphone from outside of Galar, the Rotom in every Galarian's phones is loyal to Macro Cosmos. Having been bred and raised by the company, they keep a tight handle on everyone's social media, private information, etc. And most people would not think about it, assuming that these are just gadgets, often forgetting they're actual beings with their own thoughts. So honestly, it's the fault of the masses for treating their tech so casually in the first place.

[thechaoticfanartist]

I think Grim seeing the ruins of the Jedi Temple was her breaking point actually.

And it's not like she was suddenly going into Sith mode or something. Grim has known about Order 66 for the entire time she's been in Star Wars. She's had that weighing down on her for literal years. She's always been afraid of that happening - which is what led to her not telling anyone about it. (Which I already wrote an essay on so I'm not going to get into that in this post.)

Grim has been constantly hit with failure to change things again and again even before we get to Revenge Of The Sith. She is failing over and over. And eventually there reaches the point where she's away with Obi-Wan and Anakin for a long time. And she's lost track of her progress on The Clone Wars but she knows they've left Season 6 territory and that Season 7 happens at the same time as Revenge Of The Sith during the Seige Of Mandalore Arc - something that she has no point of reference to figure out exactly how close it is. All she knows is that Order 66 is approaching and it is approaching fast. So all of her usual worry and fear has just gotten worse and worse. In fact it's very noticeable to Obi-Wan and Anakin (although neither of them know why, and Obi-Wan can only have his suspicions because she won't talk to him).

On the way to the ship Grim was brimming with joy. Anakin and Obi-Wan both noticed the sudden shift in mood of the young padawan.

Since the Outer Rim sieges had pulled them away from their home Grim had been swirling with fear. She seemed to be anticipating something awful was going to happen. Now her stress and fear had nearly instantly dissolved.

- The Clone Wars Gets A New Victim, Part III: The Rain, Chapter 30: A Reunion.

And while yes this is describing Grim being incredibly happy, it's a sudden shift in her mood. She hasn't been like this in a while. She's been anticipating the execution of Order 66. She's been incredibly afraid this entire period of time between Chapters 29 & 30.

And all of this is likely a couple of months before Revenge Of The Sith even starts. And when Grim does get to the news she instantly begins to panic again because she's absolutely terrified of Order 66.

So anyways. We get to Revenge Of The Sith. Grim's fear has never been worse. Again she fails to change things. There are only days left. She's desperate. In fact she's so desperate she even contemplates killing Anakin to stop Order 66.

For the slightest moment Grim considered that she could stop Anakin’s turn to Vader right here and now.

She could shove him off this roof and he would fall to the ground dead.

- The Clone Wars Gets A New Victim, Part IV: The Storm, Chapter 35: Checkmate

She hesitates to kill him though because she still sees him as her brother. And yes she is absolutely fully willing and attempts to do so without hesitation the next day - but you also have to consider the extreme circumstances. And we'll get to that.

We also see Grim in a pretty dark place mentally in this scene. It's implied that she was going to attempt suicide while on that rooftop. She's already at the edge of her rope here. The only reason she doesn't kill herself in that moment is because she can still feel the light.

So. Already not a good place for her. And this is just the day before Order 66.

So then it does happen. And she spends the entire day up until that moment terrified of it. She's convinced she's going to die. So then Order 66 happens and she jumps (dramatically falls) off a cliff.

From this point she's just completely broken. She almost lets herself die, then decides not to, only to regret it because she feels she doesn't deserve to be alive. She's all over the place and is a grieving mess. She's just lost everything after years of trying to stop it. She literally gave up her entire universe and past life, and now it's all been for nothing.

Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Grim get to the Jedi Temple, and she sees what happened. And she's seen it before, but seeing it in real life is completely different, especially because she now actually knew these people. They were her family. And now they're dead and she knows who killed them. And she's known the entire time.

So that's her breaking point. Because she knows, and had known for all these years. And now it's happened. And it wasn't just that Anakin did this. Because she knew that. It's because Anakin did this and they were friends. He was her brother. It's not fictional. It's not even just the fact that it's real. It's personal. For her it's become personal.

And grief and pain can so quickly become anger. So she snaps. And she gets so lost in her emotions she's trying to justify what she's saying because otherwise she's just as bad as Anakin.

And it was all just too much for her.

[idk-ju]

A time travel or Dimension travel fanfiction where instead of the actual people time travelling, people wake up one day and find that the internet has merged with the other dimension or time period. An example would be in star wars where one day Luke from the empire strikes back wakes up looks on the internet and finds that it has merged with internet from the clone wars. I think it can be an interesting case study to how the internet and propaganda effects people and it could also possibly lean into some parisocial relationships with dead loved ones

[fire-on-fuel]

also cassian letting willmon stay behind and willmon actually coming back even if injured mirrors bix's move on a smaller scale and more importantly normalizes to cassian that the people he cares about are not static objects he can clutch

maybe I'm just gay and aromantic but there's a heavy tension between cassian and bix that I don't think is out of place but I do think often contradicts what andor the tv show wants us to want them to be, if that makes sense. they're deeply complicated, the rebellion puts immense strain on their relationship, they're childhood friends and for both of them they're the only person the other is willing to truly trust emotionally. and that plays out via cassian's posessiveness over bix and bix's concessions. for how much he says the rebellion is all he's got left it's clear cassian has made bix his everything. it's simple math, one person he can trust, one person he can relax and be himself with, they've known eachother forever and have chemistry make that one person to try romance with- who will understand the limits and needs of being a rebel because she is one, and of course. only one person to lose. bix has been dealing with her own problems and happy to keep cassian in any way she can, but repeatedly she runs up against cassian himself and the rebellion as a brick wall preventing stability or any kind of normalcy between them. again I could be searching for scraps to back myself up here but I feel like we can see bix start to realize that she's become more than herself to cassian and that that has consequences she doesn't want- which I think eventually pushes her to leave. That writing choice to me was a workable way to contextualize how passive she's been lately but it also reinforces how messy cass and bix's relationship is. a lot of the things we're encouraged to read as swooning sweet romance are two people doing what they want while they can, while they're alive and still have eachother. and a lot of the calm domesticity that andor doesn't have strong opinions on how we interpret is two people who are deeply dependent on the other person being there (not lost or dead or gone) but at odds with the other person as they exist as a full human being. a couple forms of normativity are probably at play here but I can't bring myself to see them as a Couple, and anything tragic coming forward will be tragic because bix is really cassian's only loved one left- but "loved one first and something slightly more dysfunctional than dating second" isn't an established relationship role that bix is allowed to publicly occupy

[melliejellybellybean]

The Swift Lineage: Reputation (Ahsoka's Version)

I struggled most with deciding which era is Ahsoka's favorite. I do think she'd be an all-around swiftie after Padme introduces her. She'd rope the 501st into analyzing easter eggs and researching theories with her (Tup is surprisingly good at it), she has a long playlist that she listens to as she cleans, Anakin has to take away her comm before she meditates because she tries to sneakily listen to music with it.

However, as she gets older the one that sticks with her the most is reputation. Not just because she's a badass and this is a badass album, but because through Taylor's struggle of her life and image falling apart, Ahsoka finds the strength herself to keep going after she leaves the order. Sure, I Did Something Bad, Don't Blame Me and Look What You Made Me Do were her go-to hype songs during the war, but Call It What You Want, Delicate and So It Goes remind her that there is more to life than the past you left behind.

I don't think she really relates to the overall romantic theme that is super present in this album, even more so when you analyze it deeper, but I do think that she uses the romantic songs as a sort of get away from her life when it gets hard. And this goes for during the war, after the war, during the rebellion, after the rebellion. It lets her pretend that she's a normal teenage girl listening to pop music for a bit.

She can't bring herself to listen to New Year's Day after Order 66, though.

Swift Lineage "Masterlist"

[sabines-wrens]

do you guys ever think about bail organa during order 66 do you guys ever think about how he was probably in his senate office or his apartments and saw the jedi temple on fire and just got into his speeder without waiting for his bodyguards and went straight into that burning building and tried to walk right past those troopers with nothing but a single small blaster because that was the home of his friends and it was burning do you guys ever think about how he screamed when that youngling was killed and his next immediate action was to try gathering up all the jedi he could because those were his allies those were his friends being hunted and he wanted to save them he tried so hard to save them

anyway do you guys ever think about bail organa

[cross-d-a]

Jod Na Nawood’s backstory is FASCINATING!! And makes SO much sense!!! Order 66 fucked up SO much in the galaxy, it’s so interesting (and tragic) to see what it’s done to the force sensitive children who were unable to be taken into the Temple. It truly supports how GOOD the Jedi Order is. How good the JEDI are. I can’t even fully comprehend everything the galaxy lost and suffered without them. And- Jod’s master. She didn’t have to take him in. He knew that. He knows she was desperate. But she took him in anyway and taught him what she could. We only get a very tiny glimpse of that backstory but it’s utterly gut-wrenching.

Imagine the survivor of a genocide. A Jedi on the run, desperate and hungry and grieving, running into a little kid just as lost as her and seeing that LIFE in him. Feeling the FORCE in him. What would that have done to her after feeling everyone she knew and loved ripped away from her. But here is this kid and he needs help and maybe she does, too. Maybe they can help each other. And so she folds him under her wing just as any Jedi would have done. She teaches him the ways of her people, knowing that their way of life lives on in her and that she is passing it on to a new generation. And that probably hurt. It probably hurt SO much. Because she can’t give him what she could have if the Order was still alive. And he’ll never understand what it means to be part of something so beautiful and long-lasting. But she does what she can, and they maybe never would have met if Order 66 didn’t happen. And it’s an awful thought, the worst kind of thought, but she can’t help but be relieved they found each other. Because she loves this lost little kid and maybe they’re broken together, but they’re more whole together, too. And maybe without Jod she could have run and hid forever. Maybe she couldn’t have, plenty Jedi were caught and murdered. But she knew the risk and she took it- and the way Jod talks about it (“they made me watch”) makes me think that he feels he’s responsible for her getting caught. And it makes me wonder how she felt when she was caught. Knowing she was one of the last of her kind, and that this kid was going to be alone again. Orphaned in a completely new, terrible way.

And I wonder, too, if looking after the kids reminded Jod of his old Jedi Master. And maybe he thought “I can’t get attached because then they’ll catch me too and I’ll die just like her.” And you know what, Jod? It did happen that way. You got caught because of those kids. But only because you forgot what it means to be a Jedi, which is to say that after your Master died you tore out that softness within you. Abandoned love for fear. Exchanged generosity for greed. And it’s true grief and trauma changes people. That a little kid alone in the galaxy does what they can to survive. But Jod isn’t a little kid anymore and it doesn’t excuse the choices you make. It’s a wretched world, one without a Jedi, and Jod suffered all the more for it.

And I wonder, too, what Jod thought when Wim paused in the elevator. When that little kid called out to him, despite everything Jod had done to him. Did Jod look at Wim and think: “Yeah, that’s what a Jedi would be” and then hate himself all the more for it? Well, who can tell. Jod is a fascinating character and I’m excited to see where the show next takes us.

[jedischenanigans]

A detail about Order 66 that always makes me so profoundly sad to think about that I think gets over looked are the parents. The parents who gave their kids to the Jedi, many of whom were probably proud to know that their kids were out there helping people. In the rise of the new empire how many parents were mourning the massacre of their children? On top of that they probably could've even voice that grief to others without possible danger from the new regime.