#pro forlex

[a1kitkat]

Because I don't want to hijack someone else's post, I'm going to put my response to Space-Malex's post here and hopefully keep the fandom discourse directed at me and not them since I'm about to share an unpopular opinion

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This is not me trying to stir sh*t up, just my two cents to the generalization of Malex & “we all ship them. We all want them to be together”

I don’t ship them (anymore). I DON’T want them together.

I want to enjoy Forrest and Forlex… But if the Malex shippers are gonna sh*t all over my ship then its only fair I can sh*t on theirs in return.

The teaser we got today was nice but seeing all the anti-posts really killed my spirits. I do respect that Malex fans love Malex but I don’t see why they have to stomp all over the tiny Forlex crumbs I have to cling to.

Having said that, I do try to keep 98% of my anti-malex ways to myself in order to not stir the pot. This isn’t me trying to cause trouble, honest! I’m just… resentful I guess? because it’s hard enough to navigate this fandom as a former-Malex shipper.

BUT I DO AGREE THERES NO REASON TO PIT MICHAEL AND ALEX AGAINST EACH OTHER. There’s also no reason to compare ships or knock/bash another… We’re all viewers, fans, of the same show but we all interpret scenes, characters, episodes, relationships differently. It doesn’t have to be a majority mentality for us to all enjoy the same show.

[fromkenari]

If gay (not bi, but gay) men hooking up with a woman is your “thing,” get away from me and never come back. Gay men don’t have to experiment with a woman to know they’re gay. Gay men who call sex with a woman “torture” are definitely not ideal for a ship. Being gay doesn’t make you polyamorous for women. Being bi doesn’t mean you’re polyamorous either. Just fucking stop. Without love, a bisexual non-binary polyquestioning who will bang pots every time you suggest that Alex and Forrest should hook up with Maria. JFC.

[lovecolibri]

I say let Michael be both! Let him be sad and jealous (like we all know Alex was last season), but NOT petty. Let him go up to Alex and welcome him back regardless of Forrest being there. We can have the best of both worlds!

You're so right. I absolutely want pining Michael and seeing him be jealous when talking with Isobel but making sure he welcomes Alex back with a smile. He clearly knew Alex was coming back which means he had to have been in contact, and that gives me hope! I'm more salty about the fact that getting what I want (sad, pining, jealous Michael) not only feels unearned after the mess c*rina made of season 2, but is also going to bring out all the Michael haters (and f*rlex shippers) who want to see him sad and groveling and miserable and rejoicing that Alex finally has someone who will make him happy (where have we heard THAT before? Oh right! m*ria is a "breath of fresh air" and a "lighter" love story for Michael 🤢🤮) and I'm not about that. But I also kinda don't blame them because of how season 2 handled Michael and Alex's relationship to each other when they weren't in their own bubble (because maybe if Isobel saw Michael's actual heart eyes, she might not be on the m*luca train and then they might have to admit that it was a mistake 🙃). And because Alex wasn't allowed to have any emotions (that we were allowed to see) besides Supportive Bestie Who Is Probably Dying Inside But We Can't Point That Out Or People Will Get The Idea That M*ria Is A Bad Friend, Michael not being Perfectly Happy To Moderate Your Relationship With Someone Else looks like hypocrisy and again, brings out the Michael haters. I am happy to bury season 2 Michael and enjoy those trademark Vlamis Glassy Eyes(TM) and I can't wait for allll the longing stares and heart eyes and pining. I just wish it didn't feel so empty after the mess of season 2. But Chris and Co had a LOT of damage control to do and there was no way to get around this issue. Either Michael is sad/jealous/pining and people hate it because Alex wasn't allowed to be anything but happy and supportive, or they had Michael have zero emotions and be happy and supportive and...it would have been just as shitty and stupid and unsatisfying as it was with Alex. Personally, I'll take the glassy eyes and pining.

[space-malex]

I'm not surprised that Tyler said he wants Malex in s3. He was this wanting haleb when spaleb was dating. So yeah I think he will keep saying he wants malex. But also I don't think he would ever say anything disrespectful or negative towards forlex. First of all it's a same sex relationship and he was clear he wants to see more of those in TV. But also everytime he was asked about it he said it was fun to shoot, Christian is amazing and people will enjoy it unless you're hardcore malexshipper

I agree. I think we might see him speak about f0rlex because it is part of his plotline, but I don’t see him likely pushing the relationship.  even though Alex was part of the love triangle, you never saw Tyler speak about Michael and Maria. He only ever spoke about Alex and his relationships. I expect that to continue.

[cosmicclownboy]

Selfishly I want Forlex friends and Christian to remain a guest star for the following reasons:

He's pretty

Want scenes of him and Buffy in matching rainwear

He's pretty

Want him to be pro alien and help the gang

He's really pretty.

Alex deserves a queer friend he's never had that

He's pretty

Also he wears cardigans and walks in a way I just weirdly enjoy

[winged-fool]

So for some ungodly reason I keep seeing pro-Maria and ant-alex stuff in the Alex tag today. Which fuck you tumblr I have Maria tags blocked because I don’t want to see pro-Maria stuff usually because Maria stans go real hard on being homophobic in regards to Alex. But today I saw the old ‘interracial relationship rep matters, which is why Miluca is better’ argument comeback around again in the Alex tags. And I fucking hate that argument. Because alex(not Tyler, the character Alex) is a Native American man. So Malex is an interracial couple. Would they still be using this rhetoric if Kiowa had been cast as Alex? Yeah probably since Malex was reduced to a ‘people just want to see the two pretty white men bone’ ship since before Tyler revealed he’s white and I’m sure Maria stans would have happily claimed Alex is white even if he was played by Kiowa. But also. Is Alex Native or not to this particular sector of fandom. Because he’s white when they are shitting on Malex and Alex fans, but Native when they are rightfully calling out Tyler for taking a role not meant for him.

And also, most of the canon relationships on RNM are interracial relationships. Echo, Malex, Noabel, Forlex, Liz/Heath, Miluca(fuck that ship). These are all canon interracial relationships, and others are being set up(delmanes, Kybel). The only relationships on this show that aren’t interracial relationships are Max/Jenna, Kyliz, and Kyle/steph. So is interracial relationship rep only important when it comes to their self insert character getting to make out with Michael Guerin? I’m going to go make myself feel better and finish my Flint and Rosa story so I can start plotting out a Super Soldier Flint Story.🍤🍤🍤

I freaking hate that interracial relationship argument so much! Which I totally understand is true and important!! But as you rightfully pointed out, there are so many interracial relationships on this show!

And whatever, people hated Alex before and when the whole Tyler thing came out they just used it as another excuse to hate his character. 😒

Yes pls write!! I still haven't read your fic yet but I promise I will! I gave my two weeks notice so I've just been absolutely slammed at work and the semester started so I'm wiped all the time ☹️☹️ hopefully soon though!!

[pastelwitchling]

This prompt is courtesy of Anonymous.

Can you do one where not everyone is fine with Forlex and it's starting to get to Alex until he can't take it and speaks his mind. Kyle is the supportive best friend. You can take it any direction you'd like.

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Alex had a migraine. It had been there for weeks, but with every waking moment, it was getting worse and worse, especially when he picked up his phone, or spotted a familiar face at the Crashdown, or stepped into the Wild Pony thinking this would finally be the night he got to enjoy himself and not worry about anything. He was always wrong. The migraine always got a little worse, his nerves always a little more frayed, his patience a little more waned.

Alex slid onto a stool at his kitchen counter and poured himself a mug of coffee. He breathed in the chocolate scent and a smile tugged at his lips. They were fewer these days, his smiles, but they felt more real than any of the others in the recent past had been.

He thought of Forrest at the grocery market, piling up the cart with boxes of hot chocolate packets.

               “That can’t be good for you,” Alex had said on their latest trip.

               “How many hot chocolate coffees are you having in a day?” Forrest had argued back before throwing in another two boxes and making Alex laugh in the middle of the dessert isle. “Exactly. You have to have something to look forward to every morning.”

               I look forward to you, Alex had almost said back. The memory now made him blush.

               He reached over and turned on a vinyl record, something by some old French singer that Forrest had gladly leant him a few days ago (“If I haven’t introduced you to Édith Piaf,” he’d said with all seriousness, “I have not been a good boyfriend”), and took a sip from his mug. As the song played, Alex melted into his seat, his elbows on the counter, the warm cup in his hands, chasing away the chill from his entire body. But it wasn’t just the coffee or the French music, he knew, that was giving him such comfort. It was the thought of Forrest.

               Forrest here, swaying gently to the song so as not to spill from his own mug, smiling warmly at Alex as if the airman was a treasure he still couldn’t believe he’d found. Forrest would round the counter, setting his coffee down before reaching out for Alex’s hand. Alex would laugh and Forrest would tug him to his feet and they would slow dance around his kitchen. Only until the song ended, only for a short moment in time, but it would make Alex’s morning.

               He would return to base feeling like he’d just had a vacation away with his boyfriend, feeling like maybe nothing was so bad after all, all because he and Forrest had danced together.

Then the doorbell rang and Alex’s eyes fell shut, the sound cutting through the scene of himself and Forrest like an ax to a log.

He let the visitor wait outside while he took another, steady sip. He was sure he was going to need his strength when he answered. Finally, and with a deep sigh, Alex pushed himself off his seat and went to open the door.

He was not the slightest bit surprised to find Maria standing there, her arms crossed.

“You’ve been avoiding me,” she said in lieu of a greeting.

“Good morning to you, too.”

               “You cancelled our plans,” she accused him again.

               “Please,” Alex sighed, turning his back on her, “do come in.”

               “Why would you do that?” Maria asked as she followed him inside and shut the door behind her. “And did you really think you could do it over the phone and it’d be okay?”

               “Coffee?” Alex offered dryly as he took his seat again, curling his fingers around his mug, but it was no use. The warmth and simple pleasure of the morning was gone, replaced by the same weary, migraine-inducing chill that had been haunting him the past two months.

               Maria stood by the door, unimpressed. “Would you talk to me, please?”

               Alex took another sip, hoping the wait would be enough to get her to leave. It pained him to think that. He couldn’t remember the last time he wanted Maria to go away, but it seemed like the past year had been just that. First because of Michael, and now because of Forrest. He wondered when he would find a man that Maria didn’t have anything to say about.

               It doesn’t matter, he reasoned. I like Forrest too much now to think of giving him up, no matter who dislikes it.

               “So this is it now?” Maria asked, coming around to sit across him from the counter, her fingers interlocked. “You’re just going to give me the silent treatment until I leave?”

               “I’m not giving you the silent treatment, Maria,” Alex said wearily. “I just don’t know what to say to you anymore.”

He was so tired, and so tired of being tired, and so tired that his friends always seemed to be the reason he was so tired. There was another thing he couldn’t remember; the last time he felt like he could talk to either Liz or Maria about anything without worrying that their answer would make him feel worse.

Oddly enough, Alex thought that moment of something Michael had told him a few years ago. We’ve been holding onto this thing! And it’s gotten us nowhere!

Maybe Alex was holding on to the friends he had when he was seventeen. Maybe he’d changed too much to be that kind of friend again.

Maria pressed her lips together and nodded slowly, as if they were in an office building and someone was bringing up an offer she didn’t like, but also didn’t want to outright disagree with so as not to cause conflict. It was a tactic Alex recognized from Flint and Clay, whenever they wanted him to do something as a kid but wanted him to believe he’d made the decision himself.

“Okay,” she said diplomatically, and already, Alex could feel his fingers involuntarily tighten on his mug. “Okay, I hear you. I get it. You don’t like what I have to say about Forrest –”

“No, I don’t, glad that’s cleared up,” he said, the warning in his voice evident to his own ears.

“But,” she persisted and Alex closed his eyes, pinching the bridge of his nose, “I think if you hear me out, you’ll see why I don’t think he’s –”

“Maria,” he said through grit teeth before he could help himself. “This isn’t a freaking debate, it’s my life. I’m not going to go over pros and cons with you. I like Forrest, he’s my boyfriend, I want him to stay my boyfriend, end of story.”

“But I –”

“And weren’t you the one that was eager for us to get together in the first place?”

“Well, yeah, but I –” then she huffed a laugh as if there was anything funny about this conversation. As if Alex even had it in him to laugh with her anymore. “You know, I thought you’d like to have some fun for a while, but this thing with Forrest has been going on for months –”

“No, let me tell you what you thought,” Alex snapped. “You felt guilty for going after Guerin, so you thought that if I hooked up with someone, it would make it easier for you.”

Maria stared. “I’m not like that.”

“Yes, you are,” Alex said sadly. Because it was sad. “This is my fault. I let too much off the hook, Maria, so you never had to deal with me getting angry, you never had to deal with our friendship as messed up as it is now. But I’ve felt it, for the past year, and I never said anything because I kept hoping you would get it on your own.

“And now – now? – I ignore Michael’s calls at night, and I don’t ditch my dates to go help him whenever he needs it, and I don’t let him in when he’s drunk, and he’s miserable. And you thought that if I would only break up with Forrest, then at least Guerin would be happy again, and you wouldn’t feel like you finally had to take some responsibility for being with a man you knew didn’t love you like he loved your best friend.”

Maria looked angry, her eyes glistening with tears, but Alex wasn’t done just yet. Because he’d been hurting, too, and he’d suffered and kept quiet for the sake of his friends. And now, they couldn’t even do the same for him.

“Alex –”

“No, I am not finished yet,” he said firmly, setting his mug down roughly on the counter. When Maria remained silent, he went on, “You thought I would have fun?” he scoffed. “So did I. I should be enjoying brunches with Forrest, and going to amusement parks, and spending nights in together, but I can’t do that, because every time, I get a text. Or a call. Or you show up at our table to pull me away, and ask me when I think I’ll be ending this thing now with Forrest. And every time, I have to make sure he doesn’t see or hear or know. I haven’t gotten to enjoy anything for long because of you.”

He huffed, a lump forming in his throat. When he spoke again, his voice was quiet. “When you told me you were with Guerin, it was the worst day of my life. Don’t pretend you know what that feels like because you don’t. To this day, I still can’t believe you considered going after him.”

“But you said –”

“Yeah,” he breathed miserably, and Maria fell short. “I said. I lied.” He shook his head. “The fact that you had even asked me. . . . And I loved you. What did you want me to say?”

He took a deep breath, exhaled shakily, straightened his back, and fixed her with a cool glare. “So now, you’re going to return the favor. No more talks about Forrest, no more calls about Guerin, no more visits like this. You either respect my boyfriend like a friend should, or don’t bother coming by again.”

Maria’s brows furrowed as a tear fell down her cheek. “You’re choosing your boyfriend over me?”

“No,” Alex said simply. “I’m choosing me.”

And she looked so stunned at the response, as if she hadn’t realized the damage she had done to him, to their friendship, that Alex knew there was nothing left to say.

Slowly, Maria slid out of her stool and turned to leave. Alex heard his front door open and close, and he went back to sipping his coffee, Édith Piaf playing in the background, imagining himself and Forrest once again, dancing in his kitchen.

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I’m sorry if it’s not what you imagined, and I did forget to include Kyle, but I’ll write another one-shot where he’s being super supportive, I promise.

This was really cathartic for me, I’m not going to lie 😂 It helped me get some things out. I’m so happy at the number of forlex prompts I got, there are so many! I really want people supporting and loving forlex, so I will do my best to write as many pieces on them as I can. Still working on the forlex merman au, but in the time I’m not working on that, I will be doing the prompt requests.

I also really just want to sketch Alex and Forrest sitting at a cafe in Paris now 💙🌼

[manesalex]

As I've seen some discourse (😩) about this on my dash, I want to be clear that I am very much pro-Forlex. I may not ship them (I can't make myself have feels), but I love seeing Alex smile and I am looking forward to seeing them dating in s3.

I very much support Forlex shippers as well, as I hope would be clear by my supporting and reblogging Forlex fanart, moodboards, and more.

So my sharing of Vlamis's comments regarding Forlex is not me agreeing with him. I'm not taking him nearly as seriously as some of fandom is and am merely finding him acting like a jealous ex to be amusing af. And I'm tagging them so anyone who wants to can blacklist.

[benkouji726]

So I wrote my 5+1 Forlex fic, as I was saying earlier. I really lack impulse control when it comes to rnm, sigh.

Jealous Guerin may have some appearances in this fic too, but it’s eventually Forlex. 

This is the first part of it. I will try to update it daily, before I lose my nerves.

Five times Alex surprised Forrest and one time he didn’t

1.

It was supposed to be some harmless fun, at first.

Forrest was intuitive, to put it mildly. You didn’t grow up in a Long household and become this well-liked and popular family member by being dense, especially when you were gay. Besides, his gut feeling had saved him more times than he could count in battles, it was one of the reasons his buddies trusted him with their lives.

He was very good at reading people and situations around or between them. He didn’t always care what people thought of him, of others or of themselves, but he noticed all the same and would efficiently use that information to his advantage. Call it his people skills, but it was how he managed to live through his rebellious youth period, his military years, and now his adult life in a backwards town like Roswell, while never stopped being his colorful-haired, emo-poetry-writing, 20 pounds of personality in a 5 pound pocket-sized body self.

So he had known there was something between Alex and Alien Guy even when they first met at the Long farm. As they talked, it was like there were only them in the whole world. The air seemed thicker and more tangible, the atmosphere charged. Then at the diner, Forrest noticed the meaningful glance Alien Guy shot his way. When Alex sang that song, Guerin walked in and they seemed to have some soul searching conversations through their eyes only, well, it was really not that hard a guess who the song was for. And frankly, Alex needed to work on his poker face a LOT if he was ever gonna sell that obvious “it was a long time ago” lie.

But at the time, it hadn’t really mattered. Whatever it was between them, it seemed neither of them was going to make a move. And Alex was so hot sometimes he wondered how the hell he remained single in the first place, but he WAS single, and a smart guy like Forrest was never gonna miss out a perfectly good opportunity to make out with a hot guy and have some fun time with him.

It was supposed to be just like that, some fun, some company, some glorious make out sessions. Nothing heavy or potential heartbreak or anything.

Which was probably why he didn’t even realize he was falling for Alex until it was a bit of too late.

They were dating for two months at that point. Forrest had met almost all of Alex’s friends and family members (the ones who counted as friends and family in Alex’s book anyway), minus Michael Guerin. And Forrest had won them over one by one. He once overheard Liz call him “charming, funny, honest and loyal to a fault”, to a reluctant Isobel Evans, who had been giving him stink eyes ever since he and Alex had gone out, but in their last get-together thingy (Forrest honestly didn’t know how to call these, because they were irregular as fuck, both in schedule and in attending member counts), Isobel joined him at the bar when he was getting them the last round, considered him for a second, patted him on his shoulder without looking at him and said in a small but genuine voice: “You are not half bad”. So Forrest would call it a win.

In hindsight, it should have been his first warning sign that he cared so much of what Alex’s friends think of him. But in his defense, Alex was most at ease when he was with his friends, which meant he would always be sweet, adorable, sometimes sassy, sometimes soft, and had the unique sense of humor in a deadpan way, and Forrest was too busy being charmed to notice it.

So when his platoon buddies, Tony and Chris, came into town to visit him and he brought Alex to have a beer together, he was so caught off guard when Alex went to bathroom and Tony said:

“Man, you’re so gone on him, aren’t you.”

It wasn’t even a question.

Forrest spluttered, red faced, and said, eloquently: “uh, what?”

Tony and Chris changed a look, both amused. “You’ve been staring at him all night, Long. You look at him as if he hung the moon. You can’t seem to keep your hands to yourself, not to be PDA or something, but little touches, I think you didn’t even notice. He made a joke earlier, granted, it WAS hilarious, but the way you laughed, like you think he is the most funny guy in the whole world, which, no offense, is really not the case.”

Tony drank some water after his long ass bullshit, and Chris went in for a final blow. “So in conclusion, you’ve had it bad, dude, like, we’ve-never-seen-you-like-this level bad.”

Forrest was dumbstruck at that. He must’ve seemed like a dumbass too, because they decided to take pity on him, and changed the subject.

“Anyway, you know we’ve been relocated to the nearby base, Tobias and Leo are near enough too. The others all cashed in some long-overdue vacation days so we can have a little get together for our platoon in Santa Fe next month. You should come too.”

OK, that was exciting news. He missed his buddies and would be very happy to spend some time with them.

But Tony hesitated a little before continued: “There is a catch though. We thought it would be nice that we all bring our significant others, or even our children. So it would be a more family style setting. It may not be your thing.”

The thing was, it would totally be Forrest’s thing. He just didn’t know how to say it. With his platoon buddies, he always seemed like the free spirited lone wolf, easygoing, open and honest, but never the one to talk about family issues or kids problems with. But he would enjoy being surrounded by family love and loud but innocent kids, so he opened his mouth to just say that when he was interrupted by a light laugh.

“What are you guys talking about, family and kids and platoon buddies all under the same roof? It’s totally his thing.”

Forrest was startled, both by Alex’s sudden reappearance and his seemingly psychic ability to read his mind. When he remained silent a second too long, Alex apologized.

“Sorry, did I overstep? You actually don’t want to go or...?”

“No! I mean, yes, I wanna go. I just, something they said earlier, it was a lot to unpack. But you are right, I would love to go.” Well, it wasn’t exactly a lie.

Alex didn’t seem to buy it, but he was kind enough to drop it at the time.

On their drive home though, Alex picked it up again, as Alex would do, because he was a stubborn son of bitch like that.

“You wanna talk about what happened earlier?”

Forrest sighed. Best to just cut to the chase.

“Why did you say it was totally my thing? We didn’t often talk about family and kids, if any.”

Alex frowned, “No, we didn’t normally talk about that stuff. But it’s obvious you like family energy and friendly gatherings, isn’t it? Am I not supposed to know that?”

“But how? I served with my buddies for a long time, we trust each other with our lives. But almost none of them know it.”

“Forrest”, Alex smiled, “you like almost all of your family members, stay friends with a lot of them, despite some of them are real assholes. You even like hanging out with my friends and family too, not just because we are dating, but because you love being around people who give you warm family-like feelings. You organize every open mic night at the pony, and are genuinely interested in the acts and the people behind them, you like to talk to them about their lives and their relationships. You volunteer at the youth shelter. You are, simply put, a people person. You like people, you see good in them, you want to be around them and be a positive influence for them. You don’t necessarily tolerate stupid bigots, and you would be the first to call out their cowardice, but if they are willing to change and be better, you would want to believe in them too.”

He exhaled, oblivious of Forrest’s stunned expression, and continued.

“For a man who has that big a heart, I’d imagine spending some time with his buddies and their families would totally be his thing, don’t you agree?”

“Yeah, but...”

“And there’s also your poetry.”

Forrest was getting whiplash tonight, he could hardly keep up.

“My poetry?”

“Yeah, you gave me your emo poetry journal the other day and asked for my opinion?”

“I remember that. In fact, I remember it was a week ago and I still haven’t got any feedback yet.” If he was being honest, he would say he had been a little hurt by that too.

Alex’s face turned a shade pink. “I know I was being a little slow. But I just want to do them justice, you know? I’ve been reading each of them multiple times, so I can get the gist right.”

OK, hurt instantly healed. He really should be concerned how Alex’s words could so easily affect his mood.

“Anyway, the poems you wrote, they are all very pro-humanity, at least in my opinion. Like, the themes vary, some about personal journeys, some about lost love, some about struggling life, some about anger and pain. But the words have something like warmth attached to them, like despite all, there’s hope, and there’s good, in people, in humanity, in the whole world.”

He looked down at his hands then, voice quiet.

“And that’s the thing I like most about you.”

Shit.

“Shit”, It was definitely too soon, but Forrest just can’t not say it. “I think I might be falling for you.”

Alex looked at him right then, hesitated then determined: “I don’t think I’m there yet. But I think I could see myself heading down that road someday.”

He added in a more unsure voice: “Is that OK?”

Forrest reached out, squeezed his hand, and reassured him: “It’s OK”.

And it really was.

[likeadisgruntledpelican]

It's pretty telling that some who talk about wanting a healthy relationship for BOTH Alex and Michael and were like "I get Michael and Maria because that's what he needs right now" but when it comes to Alex having that CHANCE without that healthy relationship involving Michael.... ohhh boy....suddenly that's not a good thing.

I'm not even saying Forlex will be a thing. It probably won't be even if S3 is still on the table. But like... why is it always okay for the gay male character to stay sad and pining? Don't we get enough of that?

Michael's options are (in theory) more diverse than Alex's. Alex now has more than ONE option. That's a good thing.

This is why I hated a certain ship that involved a Fandom favorite M/M pair. One member of that pair got treated with kid gloves by the writers, producers, and by fandom. The other character had to always cede to his boyfriend's wants and needs. Imbalances went unchecked. One member was always reminded by others that the other member was what was best for him. Any awful things that the selfish one said or did were held against the other. My favorite in the pairing got cheated on and they still presented it as if the one who cheated was what was best for him. Another love interest was written in for the length of one season and no matter how perfect that one was, the writing presented it as if my fave was being selfish for trying to move on from the one who gaslighted him and cheated on him. They got back together because the writers just needed to punish that one character a little bit more. That's unfortunately how writers see the "sad gay character" when they're done with the coming out drama. And I imagine that a lot of Michael fans were fans of that other fan favorite. Throughout it all, most of the fandom yelled about the show and how it needed their ship back together.

I'm not saying that all the writing matches to what RNM presents. But a lot of it does. Writers aren't original with their "yes I will have an LGBTQIA character but I will make them as miserable as I can because that's how viewers connect with them. And then once they love this character, viewers should just be grateful I don't kill them off" kind of mentality.

What I am saying is that people should stop and think about why they want Alex alone rather than with Forrest. Typically, it's because its not about Alex and Forrest at all. It's about being okay with Alex pining but not being okay now that it's Michael's turn to pine while he works on himself.

The petitions for the ship over the characters need to slow down. I'd rather have Alex with Forrest and HAPPY than pining for a guy who treated him like crap for most of an entire season. No, I didn't like Miluca but I didnt like it because AT ITS CORE Miluca was a ship formed at the expense of my favorite character (whether Alex was "okay" with any of it or not, you can't argue with the actual dialogue used on the show).

Forlex isn't like that. Forlex is Pro-Alex right now. It may not be in the future. Who knows. But Miluca was presented AT ITS CORE as being specifically Anti-Alex. That shit didn't fly with me. That's why I stopped watching. That's part of why THAT scene was offensive. That scene was anti Alex Manes writing. It was anti LGBTQIA writing. It didn't help Alex (or Michael) grow as people who love each other. The entire thing was an anti Alex Manes message to viewers.

Okay so rant over. TLDR

Stop and wonder about why you think Alex needs to be alone even longer. Odds are that your reason is not about Alex at all.

[a1kitkat]

Dangling these Forlex crumbs in front of me now is just going to make the inevitable breakup hurt me even more than it already does

Michael can just fuck off and let Alex be happy and then I will be happy

[ao3feedrnm]

by shesthesmoke

michael and kyle commiserate.

or: alex isn’t here, but it’s still about him.

or: they’re not in love, but they’ll make do.

(pls read the notes at the beginning)

Words: 1794, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Fandoms: Roswell New Mexico (TV 2019)

Rating: General Audiences

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Categories: Gen, M/M

Characters: Michael Guerin, Kyle Valenti, Blaire (Roswell New Mexico)

Relationships: Michael Guerin/Kyle Valenti, Michael Guerin & Kyle Valenti

Additional Tags: they don't really get together tho, Planet 7, forrest is mentioned, forlex is mentioned, this is a pro-forrest and forlex household, but i can sympathize with michael and kyle's plights, unrequited kylex, michael being uncharacteristically mature, canon typical alcohol (mis)use, michael the designated driver, kyle valenti deserves ppl cancelling their plans for him, Biphobia, Classism, Coming Out, putting off big dramatic confessions until you're sober, michael guerin is a good friend, Angst, Hurt/Comfort, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, watching new girl on netflix which technically shouldn't be possible bc vlamis was in it

[lovecolibri]

I am an Alex girl first and foremost and even a whiff of pro-M*lexa stuff will get you immediately blocked. Based on s2, you can easily convince me that both Michael and Maria would be fully happy in that setup, but it was made abundantly clear how miserable Alex would be in that situation, and I cannot trust anyone's judgement who doesn't see that. I know you think Alex was made to look like he wasn't bothered by M*luca/Michael moving on, but the fact that there wasn't one scene with him at the Wild Pony all season spending time with M*ria or anyone else, a big contrast to s1, always gave me the impression that he may have encouraged Michael moving on because he assumed that Maria cared about Michael as much as he did and they could make each other happy, but he was never voluntarily around their relationship. (I would have bought into indifferent Alex more if at any point we had seen him casually hanging out at the Pony while M*luca was flirting with each other right in front of him.) Claiming that M*lexa would somehow make him happy is delusional. The closest we see of Alex socializing for fun is with Forrest. I don't ship them, but if the show doesn't let anyone else care about him platonically, it beats imagining him alone in his house all the time avoiding everyone. One of these side ships is not like the other. You don't have to be invested in F*rlex to see that.

Okay, this ask is amazing, Nonnie. So much to unpack here!

First, I don't really think Michael would have been down with the threesome either specifically because in included Alex. Because Alex gets a different Michael than everyone else and that is bound to carry over into the bedroom. Michael puts up that angry cowboy "I don't care about anyone or anything" front for everyone. Even Isobel asks if there was anyone he would risk everything for. He uses sex like armor. People think because they are physically close to him that they know him. But with Alex, everything is more intense and close to the surface. He uses flippant jokes to cover his feelings, but Alex always just stares right through them because he knows Michael. And that kind of intimate knowledge carries over. Michael still tries to use sex as armor with Alex but it doesn't work on him as well. So I don't think he would want m*ria to see him as anything other than the person he is projecting himself to be and he can't do that with Alex around.

"I know you think Alex was made to look like he wasn't bothered by M*luca/Michael moving on, but the fact that there wasn't one scene with him at the Wild Pony all season spending time with M*ria or anyone else, a big contrast to s1, always gave me the impression that he may have encouraged Michael moving on because he assumed that Maria cared about Michael as much as he did and they could make each other happy, but he was never voluntarily around their relationship. (I would have bought into indifferent Alex more if at any point we had seen him casually hanging out at the Pony while M*luca was flirting with each other right in front of him.)

This is such a good point, Nonnie! I always felt like Alex WAS bothered but annoyed that we didn't get to SEE it, like Liz having a private breakdown in the shower, but this is a good reminder!

And yes, we were ROBBED of seeing Kyle and Alex grow their friendship over season 2. I don't ship Forlex but don't totally hate Forrest as a character (tone-deaf 'pissing off homophobes' line aside) and Alex absolutely deserves to have some actual friends who support instead of manipulate or use him.

[space-malex]

I am heavily curious on how Carina plans to write Malex in season 3 I cant see them doing ANOTHER love triangle personally but are we finally gonna get the Malex friendship I thought we were gonna get in season 2 and Michael will be a pro forlex supporter, are they gonna just not have malex interact until after Forlex break up, it sounds like Miluca are over and done with will Michael get a new romance while Alex is with forrest I am curious how they will be and also how they promote them in s3

At this point, it’s all speculation. First of all, how much of a time jump is there going to be between seasons two and three? If it’s a couple of months, Alex and Forrest might be pretty casual. If it’s a year and they’re still together, things may have gotten more serious. However, Carina said pretty explicitly that Forrest isn’t going to be a long-term obstacle so even if there is a time jump, I still don’t think it means he’s going to be around the entire season, at least not in the capacity of a love interest to Alex. For all we know, depending on the time gap, f0rlex could have broken up off screen between seasons and Forrest is still around as a good friend. It’s too early to really speculate for me. I don’t see it being a triangle any more than malex versus m!luca was. As in- one member is in a relationship with someone else but is still in love with the love of their life. Beyond a potential snarky comment or two, I don’t see Michael interfering with the f0rlex relationship. I think he’s already accepted it and wants Alex to have something for himself because he knows they aren’t ready to “meet in the middle” yet. But he also feels that they’ll get there so he doesn’t seem threatened by Forrest’s relationship with Alex. I don’t see Michael dating anyone else, though he might casually hook up with people. Idk I just don’t know if I see f0rlex being a serious thing or not. But I didn’t see m!luca being that either and look what happened. I guess we will see!!

[signoraviolettavalery]

gele-gordijnen replied to your post “I wasn’t on the forlex train and Michael Guerin is my baby, but...”

@makeitfeelover agree to disagree all you want, you are wrong. Pretty much everyone I follow and who follows me is an Alex Stan and I can tell you 100% they are ALL pro malex. Every single one of them. They just don’t want Alex alone the whole time Michael is seeking out other options and they’re currently pissed with the way malex is being treated.

look, as someone who’s been around for a while

it is spectacularly pointless to argue about what a particular character’s fans want or don’t want. First, because it’s unprovable and there’s no objective data set, and second, because there’s always going to be exceptions to whatever rule, and third, because everyone’s fandom experiences and people they follow are different. 

And, honestly, I also don’t understand the point of arguing about whether fans of a queer character support a queer ship. Like, idk, what’s the point of that? 

[a1kitkat]

To the kind anons still sending me prompts, I’m not ignoring them... I’m just very extremely slow at filling them on top of my current WIP list.

I appreciate all the prompts I receive! I just have an odd process in which when I read a new prompt, I either see the fic in my head or I don’t. But can read the same prompt everyday for a month (or 6) then suddenly the fic comes to me out of nowhere. It’s a weird process but it works for me and I do plan to eventually fill all of them.

There’s a few that I’m genuinely not sure about but mostly due to my inability to actively ship Malex right now. Fics with them as the pairing can go either way and I’d prefer to fill a pro-malex prompt when I’m in a pro-malex headspace. Meaning that Forlex & Kylex will likely take priority for me right now.

In the meantime, feel free to keep up to date with my current tumblr prompt fills here