#problematic relationship

[spicyraeman]

teaching your death cultist how to smoke probably isn't a good idea

[areallyyellowmango]

Anastacha's "cool uncle or whatever" ™️

[padfoot-lupin77]

i made these a while back but i couldn't post more than 10 pictures from my phone and now i finally had time to log in from my computer so here you go

[artbyblastweave]

Funniest thing I've seen recently, and not funny in a ha-ha way, more funny in a "the endless entropic void gnawing at my will to live" way, was somebody asking around for alternatives to Neil Gaiman, in the light of Neil Gaiman's ongoing fall from grace. As though what we're currently sitting through isn't the collapse of the carefully curated "Good Guy Neil" image that caused people to parade Gaiman as the same kind of preferred progressive alternative to, say, Rowling. As though we won't be in the same goddamn situation in a few years or months, with some number of the new progressive sci-fi/fantasy darlings- not all of them, to be clear, but at least some of them- when their impeccably-curated marketing implodes in on itself and they're revealed to be the same kind of sex pest or abuser. Can you not see the wheel to which you are strapped. The game of human pinball you are condemning yourself to with this mindset. Maybe you do see, and you're just resigned to taking it one soul-crushing disappointment at a time, one "I never would have guessed" after another. I mean I think we all need to get resigned to that one way or another, sun's gonna go out before it stops happening

[mio-nika]

HR violation

[chaosxcrushed]

Something something, sometimes the CRK fan base is too serious/protective over some ships, especially PureLily! Just saying that if you do not like another person's taste in ships, don't make your reasoning for it be “because it's not canon”

This mostly goes to the PureLily shippers. As much as we love the ship, it's not canon. In fact, we'd argue that ElderLily has more canonical romantic undertones

Bonus!! Even though we don't ship romantic ShadowVanilla

[bottombaron]

oh ok so its the usual no-homo bullshit you always hear, good to know.

[too-much-tma-stuff]

Caring enough to Kill (part 2)

Part two to this. Jason confronts Bruce and when it doesn't go the way he wants it to Danny is there to pick up the pieces.

tw: Mentions of sex, descriptions of violence, abusive relationships

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Jason stumbled back into his safehouse, clutching his bleeding throat where Bruce had cut him. He could feel the tears trapped behind the stupid Domino mask and he ripped it off, sobbing as he collapsed to the floor. He had finally done it, he had confronted Bruce, told him it was Joker or Him and Bruce had, Bruce had attacked him! 'Because he took me from you'. So pathetic, Jason had practically begged, and Bruce had nearly slit his throat. So pathetic! to have believed he still even had a father!

He could swear the tears that fell to the floor had a subtle green glow as he wept, he felt helpless, worthless, purposeless! He could feel the Pits churning inside him, burning in his veins with grief and rage that might turn him into a monster for good. He would let it, maybe escaping all this human misery would mean he didn't care so much about someone caring enough to avenge him. Maybe he would finally just be able to kill Joker himself.

A floorboard creaked and he looked up sharply. Danny, sliding through the window after him. He gave Jason a look of sympathy and concern as he approached slowly, his back hunched and his knees bent, making himself as small as he could as he kept closer.

"One of your people saw you running and called me. Jason, what happened?" Danny asked softly, reaching out to touch Jason's face.

Jason couldn't stand, couldn't stand the care, couldn't stand a gentle touch that wasn't from his father. He grabbed Danny's wrist and twisted it, startling a scream out of Danny who so rarely cried out in pain. He shouldn't have, he didn't want to, but he was not in his right mind when he threw Danny to the floor. Danny who did not fight as Jason lashed out at him Again, channeling too much rage and misery into the person who probably deserved it least, but who always let him.

He was barely aware of what he was doing as he hit and kicked, though he knew that for once Danny was actually shielding his head, curled up on the floor. The rage broke suddenly, and all that was left was the sadness and the growing dizziness and nausea of blood loss. He backed away from Danny where he was curled on the floor and slumped into an armchair.

After a drawn out moment of stillness Danny uncurled from where he was laying on the floor, he spat out a tooth and some blood as he pushed himself up to his hands and knees. Jason noticed that he had a black eye that wasn't healing as quickly as usual, had Jason broken something? Still when Danny looked up at him it was with concern not fear.

This time when he approached it was fully on his hands and knees, creeping over to Jason again, who this time stayed still and let him, Danny knelt between Jason's legs and cupped his jaw, Jason tilted his head back and to the side, bearing his neck to Danny so he could get a good look at the injury.

Danny grimaced sympathetically and kissed the corner of Jason's mouth before flitting away to the bathroom, he came back moments later with the well stocked first aid kit and knelt by Jason again. Jason stayed still, allowing Danny to gently clean the wound, stitching it up, besides the small place where it had ruptured his windpipe so the fluids would have somewhere to go besides down Jason's throat. By the time he finished and had bandaged the wound the black eye had healed as well and besides the blood on Danny's face there was no sign of what Jason had done.

There was no sign of it in Danny's behaviour either, as he curled up on Jason's lap, leaning against his chest and wrapping his arms loosely around his shoulders. There was no fear in Danny's posture, no anger. How could he love so unconditionally? Especially someone like Jason, who so clearly didn't deserve it. They stayed there until Jason fell asleep, exhaustion winning out over everything else.

Jason woke up in bed, and confused, how had Danny gotten him here without waking him?! He must have been more tired then he realized. Danny was there too, on his side next to Jason with an arm around his waist. As soon as he felt Jason stir he sat up and reached over to the bedside table where there was a bottle of water, unopened, which he offered to Jason.

He took it and drank deeply, finishing about half before he offered it back to Danny who took a few gulps as well before putting it down and laying back down with his head propped on Jason's shoulder. "I've never seen you that angry," He murmured against Jason's skin who winced, remembering just what he'd done yesterday. Danny had showered, and cleaned Jason up as best he could so there weren't really any signs of it but still...

"I'm sorry," He murmured and felt Danny shake his head.

"It's okay. I'm not upset, just worried. What happened Jason?" He asked softly.

Jason felt tears burning the back of his eyes again and he huffed, biting his lip for a moment, but Danny deserved to know. "It was my father again. I finally asked him outright why he hadn't avenged me, I basically begged him to, even let Me kill him and witness it. And you know what he did? He slit my throat to stop me, he chose the Joker over me." Jason gave a bitter little laugh, and was genuinely startled by the snarl Danny let out, he'd never heard him make a noise like that, but it continued, a deep, inhuman growl that didn't pause even when Danny spoke, creating a dark undercurrent to his voice.

"Who is your father," He asked, and Jason felt a chill run down his spine.

"Batman, but don't confront him Danny. I don't really have a father anymore. He can't change, I'd rather focus on the things I can change."

"Like the Joker's status as living?" Danny said dryly, but the growling did ease off.

Jason winced and sighed before he looked to the side. "As much as I know the world would be better off without him, something is holding me back from doing it. I do a lot of avenging people, killing rapists and traffickers and shit. Is it so bad to want to Be avenged for once?"

"No, it's not," Danny said softly. "Does it have to be Batman, or would someone else who loves you doing it be enough?" 'Would I be enough' goes unsaid.

"Yes, that would be enough."

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Jason's throat healed, months passed and Danny didn't mention the conversation they'd had about the Joker. Jason threw himself into work, gaining control of more of the drug trade to make sure his rules were followed. He set up safe injection sites and rehabs. He killed corrupt police, politicians, traffickers and anyone who harmed children, cleaning out his turf in the most permanent way he could, making it safe for the kids, the working girls, and everyone else who called it home without being a Complete piece of shit.

Danny kept him from completely losing himself, dragging him away from work for date nights, meals and to get some sleep. Occasionally Jason got angry, occasionally he lashed out, but Danny never held onto those times. Danny didn't only pull him away from work though, since they'd gotten together he started participating even more in Jason's work. He was no longer just a 'goon'.

He designed himself a costume, with a pattern different shades of brown and red, a muzzle covering the lower half of his face and a colour. The first time Jason had seen Danny in the tight leather... let's just say Danny hadn't kept it on for very long, Jason Really liked the collar. Danny called himself Hyena, like it was a joke Jason didn't fully understand. He was Jason's second in command and he gave orders when Red Hood wasn't around since he knew what Red Hood would want. It was almost like being able to be two places at once and Jason was incredibly grateful to Danny for it.

The Joker still being out there was the only thing that kept nagging at Jason, and as they got closer and closer to the anniversary of his death the worse it got. He thought he might have been imagining it but he though Danny was pulling away a bit too. He was busy more often then usual and distant in a way that made Jason worry he was keeping secrets, though he had no idea WHAT they might be since his life genuinely did seem to revolve around Red Hood and his mission.

When the day of his death came Danny was nowhere to be seen and Jason shut himself up on his office to focus on work, reading reports and writing responses. Doing whatever he could to try not to think about what had happened this day five years ago, and how Joker was either not thinking about it at all, or celebrating.

He had explicitly said for no one but Fox to disturb him today so when there was a pounding at a door he was ready to Fucking Kill someone! Danny never knocked like that, usually he just let himself in, so he knew that wasn't Danny. He got up from his desk so abruptly he knocked his chair over and stomped over to yank the door open.

"Please don't shoot! Hyena is in trouble!" The goon at the door, Marcus he though, cowered. Marcus got along with Danny, they might even friends, he would know.

"What happened?" Jason snarled through the voice modulator on his helmet, but he wasn't about to bite Marcus' head off anymore.

"He left your turf in costume this morning, I tried to tell him not to but he didn't listen to me! We've got reports he's on his way back but the Bats are on his tail! You have a tracker on him don't you?! He's gonna need help!" Marcus said in a panic and Jason grabbed his coat and his phone.

"Ya I do I'm not going to let them touch him," Jason snarled checking his guns before he practically bolted out of the building wondering what the Hell Danny had gotten himself into.

He grabbed his grapple and headed to meet Hyena as quickly as he could. He knew Danny was fast but Bruce and the Replacement would catch him eventually if none of the others were already on their way to intercept.

He heard Hyena before he saw them, the high cackling of the manic laughter Danny tended to lean into when he was in his Hyena persona, then Jason saw him, he planted his feet on a rooftop just inside crime ally and drew his guns. He saw the moment Danny spotted him and slightly adjusted his flight so he landed on the same roof as Jason, rolling to absorb his momentum and skidded to a stop half hiding behind Jason as he grinned at the Bats who had also come to a stop on the roof across from them with the muzzles of Jason's guns trained on them.

"Sorry about this, I knew what I was doing but I don't know the placement of the cameras all over Gotham, I didn't know they saw me," Danny said, resting his hands on Jason's shoulders.

"What did you do Hyena?" Jason asked without looking away from Batman and Robin.

Danny cackled again, the Hyena laugh that made him shiver just a little. He ducked out from behind Jason and got halfway between the two groups in the stand off. He pulled the bag Jason hadn't noticed off his shoulder and reached inside. Jason could tell Danny was smiling at him from behind the muzzle as he grabbed something and pulled out... The joker's head, Jason's breathing caught in his throat.

"Happy death day baby," Danny said fondly, his voice loud enough that Batman and Robin would be able to hear as well. "Someone cares about you enough to avenge you."

It was brutal, and final, it was a decoration of love as surely as anything else and so much better then a dozen roses. Jason thought he would be horrified, fixated on the head, but the Joker was just a lump of flesh now, a horrified expression fixated on his face as if he hadn't actually expected anyone to kill him. Nothing to be scared of anymore.

"Holy shit," Jason laughed and turned to Danny, scooping him up making Danny yelp in surprise and drop the bag, the Jokers head rolling away as Jason twirled a laughing Danny. "I love you so much Cub! This is the best gift anyone's ever gotten me!" He cheered and Danny blushed all the way to his slightly pointed ears, clearly pleased.

It was the first time Jason had said he loved him and Danny felt like he had won the lottery! He couldn't control his purring as Jason put him back down, he snuggled into Jason's side as he aimed his gun and put a bullet in Joker's decapitated head just for the catharsis of it.

"Jaylad," Bruce's voice was soft and betrayed. As if he had any fucking right!

Reminded of his presence Jason's gaze snapped back to Bruce, as did his guns, pointed at Batman and Robin again. "If you're planning to arrest Hyena for this I will not hesitate to shoot. If you take one step inside My territory," Jason snarled at them. "You can take the head if you want, I don't need to keep a lump of rotting flesh, I just needed to know Someone gave a shit." He stepped forward and kicked the head like a football, sending it hurtling at Batman with pretty damn good aim as Danny cackled behind him, high and loud.

Batman caught it, more on instinct then anything, but it was evidence, it was a body, he would take it, and the corpse from wherever Danny had left it. "Now if you'll excuse us, I think we have a celebration to plan!" Jason said before he shot at them, he wasn't aiming to kill, just to make them leave and it worked. They dashed off and Jason turned back towards Danny.

"I love you too," Danny said, soft and warm, pressing himself against Jason's chest. "Now take me home and Fuck me~"

Jason laughed and scooped Danny up into his arms, letting him wrap his arms back around Jason and cling as he set a quick pace towards their nearest safe house.

Part 2.5

Part 3

Masterpost

[poppyseed-cookie]

“Burningcheese is the most obvious abuser x victim no arguments” is SOOO funny to me cuz like. They all just say “he ripped off her wings!!!” while completely ignoring the fact that SHE GROWS THEM BACK AND CRUSHES HIM UNDER A BUILDING??? Brother that’s not abuser (BS) x victim (GC) that’s weak murder attempt (BS) x good murder attempt (GC).

[problematic-maleslash-polls]

Do you ship it?

Problematic Reasons: 7 year age gap, enemies, toxic, imprisoned and killed each other, L planted cameras in Light's house when Light was 17 years old if that's anything

Propaganda: iconic forefather of modern-day yaoi. invented the concept of emo boys kissing. need i say more

[sirshio]

Yesterday I posted a thread about Istvan's and Erik's emotional incest and decided to bring it on Tumblr too, because I think I did a decent job.

Why I think I can say something about psychology? Well, I've been having a special interest for it for almost all my life, my mom is a therapist with almost 20 years of practice, we discuss her work often, I read books about psychology (my favorite specialists are K.G. Jung, M.L. von Franz and I.D. Yalom). So yes, I'm qualified. Why be shy and demure when I can not to?

So let's begin!

If you don't know, it's quite normal when small kids (3-6 y.o.) have a "crush" on their parents. Boys may think that they will marry their moms, a lot of girls think the same about their dads. This is called Oedipus' complex and Electra's complex respectively. Despite these terms were made for straight (and cis) people, we can and should adapt them for queer people too. For example, I perfectly remember these experiences with both of my parents (I'm under a bisexual umbrella). For Erik I will use the term "Oedipus' complex", simply because he's a man and this term is masculine.

So. This is pretty normal for a lot of people and usually passes without a trace (most of people who experienced it even don't remember about it). But this scenario happens in healthy families with trustful relationships, where parents and kids love each other. We know a little about Erik's family and can only use his own words, when he said his parents were weak and couldn't raise him properly. I believe this means he hadn't had a close and sincere relationship with his parents (I also see him as autistic, and his neurodivergence made his relationships with people more difficult). This is very possible that before Erik met Istvan, he hadn't had a man who could've been his father figure, someone who could've taught him how to be a man, too, who showed him that it's possible to fight for a place under the sun respect and other needs.

But Istvan came, he was strong and independent, he took what he wanted and needed, and for Erik he became a man to follow, basically a father (maybe Istvan was the same age as his real father was, we don't know). A father he never had, someone who can protect and teach him, to take care of him, to become someone whom Erik can be attached to. You know. A family.

I tend to think that Istvan became a father figure for Erik first, and someone to have Oedipus' complex, gay edition second. Erik also idealized him, because he HAD TO deal with fact that Istvan actually murdered his family and took away everything he had, but gave so much more than they ever did instead. So he had to tell himself that Istvan is better than them and that he was in his right, because the strongest wins and lives and weak are useless and deserve to die.

As I said, Erik hadn't had a healthy base to have his Oedipus' complex. Since this is a quite necessary thing for majority of people, it was Istvan to become such a base. And here are a few factors why this complex gone fucked up:

- Erik is too grown-up for it. As I mentioned, the normal age is 3-6, and I believe Istvan met Erik when he was 12-13 already, what is definitely too late,

- Istvan is not his relative (maybe Erik was able to perform actual incest, but whatever, the fact they aren't related makes the situation worse),

- Erik developed an unhealthy codependency for Istvan. He (as I see) was hungry and desperate for connections, he idealized Istvan, he needes him more than anything,

- he was in the age when most people have their first sexual crushes (I don't say all 13 y.o. teens should fuck, but a majority of them do have sexual fantasies of different kinds, it's just normal).

So, all of these factors collided and grew into a rather unhealthy mixture that made Erik's late and already fucked up Oedipus' complex in an actual crush.

I think his jealousy and desire to have Istvan only for himself have the same roots. When you have only one person you care about and this person is the only one who shows care for you, you are very likely begin to think they should belong to you and only you and you must be their everything, or else you are useless and no one will ever need you. You begin to think that you should give them anything and everything they need (because they did the same thing to you) and begin to be jealous and angry (and discarded) if they dare to fulfill some of their needs with other people.

Actually, this wish to be "together and only together" also has roots in familial ties (or lack of them). I remember a stunning autobiography of (my favorite) Elias Canetti. When he was a teenager, his father died and he became a man for his family and literally tried to become a husband for his mom, because he loved her so. Thankfully, they both weren't so fucked up, and this situation didn't become worse and didn't end up in an incestuous bond. But you see my point, I think. If a child/teen has a parent (or parental figure) on whom they can have a "crush", this thing can happen. This - and something much worse.

So I think for Erik Istvan is everything. His salvation, his mentor, his father he'd never had, his lover... He will be anybody and everybody for Istvan, and he doesn't think there's something very wrong with it. I can perfectly see a 14 y.o. Erik who kisses Istvan and says he wants to be his man. He is already taller than him and have broader shoulders - not a boy anymore, but a young lad. Istvan is proud of him - and of himself too. I wonder if he could resist a temptation to accept his feelings...

Gosh, they are soooooooo problematic AND I'M HERE FOR IT.

I hope you liked my post! Also I strongly recommend Canetti's autobiography, it's great! It has three parts, I found both original titles and English ones for them: Die Gerettete Zunge/The Tongue Set Free, Die Fackel im Ohr/The Torch in My Ear, Das Augenspiel/The Play of the Eyes.

(Shio just finished his paper for university and makes literature references even in his internet posts...)

(also please give some attention to my original twitter thread <:3 the link is in the beginning)

P.S. a lot of thoughts about them were given to me by this absolutely amazing fic! If you love Isterik, give it a try, it's so worth it!

[istadris]

Yes Enemies to Lovers.

Yes "Enemies" as in "I would destroy you and everything you hold dear in a way viciously intimate".

Yes "To" as in "I hate you and love you, and yet once it was worse because I didn't know you"

Yes "Lovers" as in "any sane person in such a relationship should and would run away".

Yes Ennemies as the essential component, because else it's just a normal romance.

Yes Lovers as the essential component, because else it's just someone trying to kill a random person.

Yes Enemies AND Lovers at the same time. Kiss with a fist energy. Biting you with the intent to draw blood then gently licking it clean. Holding you tight in my arms then mauling you by kicking like a cat.

Yes ENNEMIES TO lovers. Somewhere along the way I've grown addicted to your violence and we keep coming back to each other because no one else knows me as well as you do.

Yes ennemies TO LOVERS. There's such an ugly history between us, it taints our sweet moments with a bitter taste, and yet somehow fondness has grown over our hatred, like moss and flowers over wasteland.

Yes Ennemies to Lovers with a happy ending, but half of the world thinks we're insane for turning our back to our principles.

Yes Ennemies to Lovers with a sad ending. I gave up all my life's work, my ethics, my dignity, my life, just for a chance at happiness with you.

Yes Ennemies to Lovers. I am your Hero's heinous sin and triumph, I am your Villain's shameful weakness and redemption.

Yes Ennemies to Lovers. The sex is amazing, thanks for asking.

[bearspiracies]

. . . What if Batman is transgender and dating Bruce Wayne and the first, second, and third, and fifth Robin's are actually Bruce Wayne and Batman's biological children but Batman has rights over them for their safety, being related to Batman and all, so Bruce Wayne adopted children that looked similar to his biological children to fill the void of not having his and his lovers children living with him and being raised by him?!

The empty nest syndrome hits HARD 😔. No wonder the Wayne kids are such terrors, they act out for the attention of a man who will only see them as filler children for the kids he could never have...... Is there a such thing as reverse child support? Does Batman pay it?

Batman's kids (congratulations on the transition btw Mr. Lord Batman Sir. Iconic.) probably yearn for the normalcy, but back to the mines they go.

I once considered Batman reproducing his robins asexually, but this intrigues me. To be completely honest, who could blame him? I, too, would reproduce wi..... Nevermind my boyfriend is reading this over my shoulder I probably shouldn't finish that sentence.

[tranniephannie]

me: i have a perfectly normal and healthy relationship with my own father

phil: hey if ur trans we’re proud of u (:

me, crying: you guys are my dads now

[toss-a-coin-to-your-stan-account]

not my tiktok feed going from "BILLFORD!!! TOXIC OLD MAN YAOI😍😍😍😍😍" to "yeah i like billford but ONLY pre-portal billford and i'm not like THOSE fans who like [insert toxic/"""problematic""" thing bill did to ford] bc that's WRONG and and if you like it you're BAD" girl what do you think the "toxic" in toxic old man yaoi MEANT

[crownedwille]

2x2 + 3x4

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