#pv and wl are there but not enough to be tagged

[honeydudedraws]

so uh

I really wanted to draw pokemon and zoo walked me through the whole process of assigning pokemon to cookies

have some beasts!

here's the list I ended up with and some notable expectations:

fire spirit options became: Moltres or typhlosion

and the beasts followers are

candy apple: victini

black sapphire: mega absol

nutmeg tiger: torracat

haetae: hisuian growlithe

[ilikerosesalot]

I think chapter 21 of Jambound shot up to like, my fav chapters. I still am not sure if it beats out chap 10 and 11 but its ITS THAT LEVEL YK. MY GOD. FUCK. I AM THAT ONE LIVE REACTOR IN THE COMMENTS AND I LIKE TO PAUSE MY TYPING MULTIPLE TIMES BECAUSE. I COULDNT. I COULDNT EVEN. WORDS. HARD. TOO STUNNED AND INVESTED. GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[sylvieserene]

No shade to you, but about ur post complaining abt that one twt post…man the accounts gimmick is hating on purelily. That post was not actually serious they Dont care about what people ship or not. It’s not that deep to them they just like lily a lot. Also dont use ship tags if it’s not about the ship, especially if it’s complaining about the shippers, even while it’s a valid complaint

Anon, I may understand where you're coming from but it's not just them though.

Things like these are said on the regular such as:

It's always the Purelily fandom which is getting the hit of everything.

We had a few mentally deranged individuals in our community yes, no one is denying that BUT.

We also had a whole minor grooming n*zi prolife ShadowVanilla controversy on twitter which just proves no fandom is safe from fucked up things... People are happy to point fingers for what one Purelily fan did but no one is willing to talk about it or anything at that really. The moment something screwed up happens in their own shipping space, suddenly everyone turns a blind eye to it or its not talked about as much.

So why must just one fandom get the blame? If we're being fair, all of these should be talked about, no?

Which brings me to my whole post's point. NO shipping space and by that I mean NO one is exempt from doing screwed up things. So I'm gonna repeat, accusing it's always just Purelily shippers is insane.

I'll not name anyone but there are very popular artists who also accuse Purelily fans of actively mischaracterising the characters even though ShadowVanilla + Elderlily shippers have also done it.

Suddenly, they are no longer in the picture and it's always those damn Purelily shippers' fault.

And I can assure you, I have enough ss and proof to show you that these people are very much serious. This isn't for the hahas or giggles. It's very much meant to be taken seriously and these people will defend their stance and posts seriously.

Even @reshramlove1ob has said this and even I have personally seen this attitude in the fanfic community as well. You get BLATANT hate for just letting WL exist where both SM and PV are in the same fic. It's insane.

Liking WL is one thing but wanting her to get isolated from everyone for an old af guy she just met? That's not funny anymore. You are actively objectifying her and are making her life revolve around male individuals. You're taking away agency from her.

That's not being a wl fan. That's being a sham fan who is more invested in what they ship instead of seeing how it impacts the character.

The twitter user is that. They deny PV's involvement in life, actively accuse Purelily fans + shippers + ship of being horrible and are actively making Elderlily being the central focus for what they like about WL.

More about that twitter user. That person is very much serious in what they say and if you try to pretend that they're not then I believe we need to sit down and have a talk lmao

Anw,

Everything is fair to hate when it comes to Purelily but the moment you even try to criticise their ship on valid grounds? All hell breaks loose.

You tell me that this isn't about the ship and to not use the tags for such. While I understand where you may be coming from but.

This whole thing directly ties to the ships itself.

All of this? All those threats and screwed up comments? All that for shipping a fictional character and people coming to attack Purelily shippers from 2 very specific shipping communities.

It VERY much ties to the ships cuz shippers don't exist without ships.

If we don't spread awareness of what's the state of Purelily fans atm, most of ppl will continue believing it's just us who is problematic and others are fine WHEN THEY ARE NOT.

So please, I say spread the word and condemn ppl who are spreading this type of hate.

I am not complaining about anything, I am merely pointing out the state of the fandom rn. And I'm gonna say it again, If you cannot practice peace yourself, then expect back what you're giving as well.

Just like secularism, respect of boundaries can never exist unless mutual. One sided respect cannot exist in long term.

You can't be like "WAAAAHHHHHH STOP HATING ON MY SHIP YOU A**HOLE" but also be like "YOUR SHIP SUCKS A** MINE IS SO MUCH BETTER"

I don't participate in dramas, especially fandom dramas cuz I hate these. But this? This is way too much.

In my culture, there's a saying:

"If you throw a stone at someone, expect a brick back."

Think about it once.

Karma leaves no one. Not even Gods are exempted from it.

Tldr, let's not pretend ShadowVanilla and Elderlily folks are very peace loving, innocent fellas. Y'all also have fucked up individuals in your communities and it's about time you guys start calling them out instead of blaming Purelily folks for everything. Cuz if generalising Purelily shippers continues, I don't see a day too far where even ShadowVanilla or Elderlily fans may also start getting generalised and it would be very easy too cuz a lot of stuff has happened already but my question is, why let that day come? If we as a fandom unite and stop this behaviour, we can stop this toxicity from spreading.

So please, live and let live.

Do NOT threaten to harm irl individuals which includes hate comments just for not shipping what you like.

Stay in your boundaries and let me stay at mine without throwing rocks and acid over the fence.

It's not funny and it will never be.

[nonuggetshere]

A bit random, but after seeing all the gijinka designs for the Hollows, could you tell us a bit about the Humble Pie AU? (Is this one of the ones where Hollow/Secret grows up happily?)

WITH PLEASURE, AND YUP

I actually posted it before but it didn't have a name yet back then. I went ahead and tagged that old post with the AU name though so y'all can go see baby Secret full of meats

Anyway,

So the basic premise is that Pale King wanted a more controlled environment to create the vessels, so instead of putting them in the abyss, he injected himself with void while pregnant. Unfortunately for him the news of his plan got out into the public and his own citizens overthrew him. Just, "Hey that's fucked up, get the fuck out of our kingdom?", which I guess is one of the things you gotta deal with when you allow your people to have free will; they might stop wanting you to be their God.

Not being the kind of wyrm to force bugs to follow him, he cut his losses and left Hallownest with his wife. For a while, they travelled and lived out in the wastelands before they eventually found a suitable enough place to stay. The Pale King gave birth to two children in their little burrow.

They named the kids Secret and Ghost, as they saw them as their punishment. Having to care for and raise the corpses of their former children, mindless weapons without a purpose, was a fitting punishment for their crimes. It was mentally exhausting having to stay with them, watching them lay there motionless, not making a sound, not even breathing.

But as the kids grew they kind of realised oh shit they're actually just normal kids. Pale King had that realisation when he stayed behind with them while his wife went out to find food. They were old enough to start moving and crawling around, exploring their surroundings. They either crawled up to him for warmth or tried to play with his tail by pawing at it, I can't quite remember but it was either of these.

So after PK and WL realise these children are alive they actually have a pretty good childhood. The two expand their burrow so their children can play around, they sell what they grow and craft from their kills at the nearest kingdom and use that money to get the kids some toys and soft pillows and blankets for their beds. When they're old enough Secret and Ghost are taken along to their hunts and learn from their parents to not only hunt but also how to fight and defend themselves.

Generally, it focuses a lot on their domestic life and all that fuzzy shit. And for once they have a completely normal childhood.

Secret is my only PV/THK version that has absolutely ZERO childhood trauma. Congrats buddy.

Okay maybe except that one time when they almost got kidnapped as a baby, but it's FINE. Their mum and dad rescued them almost immediately, it's alright, it doesn't count.