#relic of creation

[st-whalefall]

Listen, I love the lost fable, it’s great, it’s so much fun, but it’s really misleading (that’s the point) and a lot of audience members take it at face value.

Two things stick out to me as hints that point to Jinn’s vision being not completely, totally, really the absolute truth:

1. In volume 8, the staff of creation/Ambrosias is revealed to be one of those “give you exactly what you ask for” macguffins, after Oscar tries to go back through the portal and it’s shown the portal is one way, a la “A one-way ticket to Vacuo.”

2. In volume 9, we’re told by the tree that the brothers Grimm were “born” simultaneously. The god of light is Not the elder brother. In the lost fable Jinn says, “It was here the elder brother dwelled beside his fountain,“ & “…all while careful to make no mention of [the god of darkness]’s elder,” and we now know this to be false.

Bring these two pieces together (and other things but were focusing on point 1 & 2 for brevity) and we’re meant to find Jinn’s vision suspect.

What did Ruby ask Jinn again?

“What is Ozpin hiding from us?”

So, what Jinn showed them was not The Truth. But what Ozpin thinks, what Ozma believes, to be true.

And the characters took that vision at face value, but we the audience are meant to question it.

[iamafanofcartoons]

Seshirukun gives us Alyx from RWBY with 3/4 of the Relics.

www.twitter.com/Seshirukun1/status/1670897837008142347

[nightlilly0110]

I don’t know if this has been talked about before but the conditions placed on the Relics are the antithesis of what each of them stands for.

The Lamp of Knowledge limits the number of answers anyone can ask, basically 3 per lifetime (unless you’re Oz or Salem and can loophole that shit).

The Staff of Creation destroys what was previously created (delete your art).

The Crown of Choice creates indecision by showing you all the little ways your future choices could cause you potential harm (Fairytales of Remnant, The Indecisive King, although that might have just been whatever Oz has going on).

Which makes me wonder what the condition (or perhaps the price) is for the Sword of Destruction. It has to be something opposite of its purpose, based on the pattern, but creating something isn’t really a price, per se, unless maybe you’re forced to create a monster? More Grimm? Another Salem? Does Oz even know what this one does? Has it ever been used before?

[cdawgy2]

I’m about to start theorizing everyone.

So the only two relics we haven’t seen in action are the Sword of Destruction and the Crown of Creation (that’s what they are, right?). Now, it’s probably pretty straightforward what the sword does, but you know what I think the crown does?

Nothing.

At least, not whenever like the other relics. It’s kind of like Aerith’s White Materia. I think that the relic of choice can only be activated when it is united with the rest, and when they call the brothers back to Remnant, that is when the choice will come into play.

This could also tie into the “Tai has the crown” theory. Because the crown is effectively inactive, that means it doesn’t generate a passive magic field like the lamp did that attracts grimm. Therefore, Tai is able to hide it in his basement without worrying about an army of beowolves tearing his house apart.

[mylittlerwde]

Relic of Creation is too open-end.

I'm writing this late at night. I'm tired and about to pass out, so sorry if this feels incomplete.

So I was coming up with different reasons for why it couldn't be used on Salem (for a fanfic worldbuilding, to be clear!!) when the question hit me. Was it ever mentioned that anything created by the Relic of Creation was indestructible. I can't remember.

I know he needs cleared precise details to build. But what does that really mean? The wiki say that he can create anything the user desires. That blueprints or schematics are only needed to make it clear exactly what you wanted.

Does that mean I could ask for a time machine without any blueprints, and he would make it. Sure, it wouldn't exactly like I want, but it could be made, right? But Ozcar suggests that you need to explain how.

Ozcar states, "He can build you anything, but only if you can explain how. Like any craftsman, he'll need blueprints. Some sort of reference. It'll help if we have real-world examples to show him."

This is clearly saying you need blueprints, right? So would Ambrosius have to refuse my request, or would he answer it, but it'll be like decor? Useless.

Not only that, but how detailed will I have to be. Could I draw a picture of a portal gun with illustrations on how it is supposed to work, be enough for him to make? Does his creation need to be possible? Like anyone could make it with the right material.

It all so confusing.

I'm going off track. My question is, is Ambrosius creation indestructible. Like if he was instructed to make bread. Could the bread be eaten? If his creation is supposed to be indestructible, you shouldn't be able to eat it.

If it can be destroyed, would it rebuild itself? Say, for example, they make a house to slow Salem down. It's just a house, nothing special outside it suppose to trap Salem. Each time Salem destroyed the house, would it rebuild itself around her, or will Ambrosius need to be instructed to make it again.

I need to know. How can I work on limitations if I don't know what he can do. I genuinely want to know. Can anyone explain to me. Pls I'm really dumb. I want to know.

[p5x-theories]

New shadow icons in Version 4.1.2!

[trickstersaint]

I’m your first patron Saint of creation! I think about Frankenstein all the time so I think your quiz worked.

!!!! whoo!!! gonna be so honest i was stressed out watching the quiz stats for the first few hours there cause the stats for creation sat at zero percent for so long... but. y'know. i think that creation has lower stats cause it requires you to make some of the brighter and more positive choices and it's not always clear where any positives are in that quiz even If you are a naturally bright and optimistic person... anyway. delightful to see all the people getting the creation result cause they are the Only people who are actively happy with the result that they got lmao

[marcart122]

RWBY Colours of May Days 12, 13, 14, and 15: Summer, Choice, Creation, and Knowledge

I know I'm a day late posting this here but hear me out:

[impossible-rat-babies]

re: last post about the whole of attachments like. looking back at darva is very….fun and interesting bc he is so much a product of me discovering and playing around with gender. he’s the tip toe that turned into the cannonball into the pool. he’ll always be special for that reason, even if now he feels like he belongs to a different owen.

[lizarr7]

Aaaand, some *more* of my Hound girl.

This is a picture I've been working on for a long time. Ver different style than I'm used to, and also a lot more involved, so it was a bit tricky to get figured out. Overall though, I'm pretty happy with it.

Also want to mention, my character doesn't actually have a leash bolted to her neck in her story, that's not canon XD It's just symbolism. As is literally everything in this picture.

[voiceoutofstars]

Fan narration of a Relic entry in HSR’s Data Bank. This is the story of all four pieces of the Genius of Brilliant Stars set.

Music is “Perfect Beauty” by Zakhar Valaha.

[bobauthorman]

The Spirit of Knowledge was impossibly beautiful woman.

The Spirit of Creation was an impossibly beautiful man.

So what's next? What would the Spirits within the Relics of Destruction and Choice would be?

For destruction, I'm guessing something like a skeleton. Skeletons have always been the de-facto image for death, destruction and such.

Choice, I'd just be spitballing. But maybe a tentacled thing covered in eyes, to represent all the potential possibilities. Or a potato.

[smokescreenstuff]

*faceplants*

I just made myself cry with my latest chapter of "Accidental Creation"

My readers are going to yell at me.

[mimiyanna]

Final Fantasy XIV really just is the most goated game of all time

[frankbelloriley]

One of the main sticking points of the strikes is streaming transparency from the studios. Basically there are independent ways to find out how many people bought a movie ticket (box office sales) or watched a television show (Nielsen ratings), but with streaming, the studios keep the numbers in house and they very strongly want to keep it that way. They can say something is a hit even though no one I know has watched it, or they can cancel something due to stated low viewership even though it can be popular. Writers and actors want those numbers public for very understandable reasons, not only immediate residual reasons, but for future contracts. It’s hard to negotiate a higher fee “because you created the most popular show for teens on Netflix last year” when another executive can rightly say, “I don’t fucking know how many people that is.”

Now, there’s one of two reasons why the studios and studio heads are holding out this hard against streaming viewership transparency. Scenario 1: the numbers are way higher than they’ve been saying. In which case, the studios open themselves up for lawsuits for withheld pay by both unions under their previous contract. In that scenario, everyone’s kinda pissed a good long while, studios eventually pay up, but afterwards after some time, business can continue as usual, just the studios making slightly less money (while still making lots).

Scenario 2: the numbers are way way lower than what the studios have been saying. This is when things get a little dicey for the industry at large. Because then we find out that streaming is not as much of a viable financial option that they made it out to be, so the industry at large shrinks. (If/when this happens, do not blame WGA/SAG-AFTRA for bringing this to light because it was the studios who chose to make a series of poor financial decisions, like, I don’t know, tying up a fifth of a billion dollars on a movie starring a nonbinary criminal who couldn’t stop doing crimes until six months ago.) That means a lot of workers will be out of their jobs. Now, the studios and CEOs of said studios don’t care about that but, but this next part? When the news of studios juicing the numbers hits, their stock price will tank. And a lot of these CEOs salaries either have stock incentives or stock performance bonuses in their contracts. Those bonuses are gone, and if we know anything about the studios, they only care about themselves. So if the numbers are lower than what they’ve been saying, hoo buddy, they do not want that getting out.

My guess: the longer the strikes go on and the longer AMPTP refuses to negotiate with the unions, it’s probably closer to Scenario 2.

[anistarrose]

I think about this post so much. One of the reasons it's canon in my heart is because the Light of Creation is already, canonically, what allowed John to become Something More. Most directly, and most explicitly in John's own words, that was by enabling the Hunger to take on its physical form — overcoming the laws of physics, by allowing multiple planes to exist in the same space. But on the flip side, there's also the charismatic side of John's ascent:

"Everyone listened, Merle. I’m not being hyperbolic. Every. Person. In the world was swayed. I don’t know why you’re different. (...) Our shared vexation, with... life? Covered the world like a blanket. And soon every bird in the sky and every tree in every forest, and every blade of grass, and grain of sand shared our fury. And it — it wasn’t long before… it changed us."

No matter how incredible a speaker John was, no matter how much his words could inspire, he developed a level of charisma that did... even more than that. It was downright eldritch, able to capture the minds of even inanimate objects. Things that shouldn't be able to listen. It's like the Light resonated with something John was already extraordinary at, and... elevated it, to a level that defied the laws of nature itself.

Of course, this is ultimately speculation, because it's ambiguous when John found the Light — relative to when he "solved" the nature of existence, after years of aspiring to do so, only to spiral into bleak dissatisfaction. But the proposed timeline, with John finding the light when he reaches his realization, strikes me as analogous to what happened to the Light on the Two-Sunned Planet — where the Institute used the Light to pursue their own aspirations (interplanar travel), and make their own monumental discovery (bond magic) allowing them to pursue that aspiration. Then, much like the Light would've stayed in John's hands after his realization — this time, the Light now stayed in close proximity to the seven surviving members of the IPRE. And... it changed them too.

So needless to say, we have John — with his natural ability to make people listen, only empowered to impossible levels. But now, we also have Merle — the only person who didn't listen to him. We have Merle, with an inherent dedication to choosing joy — now empowered even more, enough to resist John's own craveability. To be completely matter-of-fact about resisting it, in fact — because in those first thirty cycles, Merle had built up a resistance to the thrall of the Light.

That's such an underdiscussed parallel, isn't it? The only person who doesn't listen and give in to John; the only people who don't succumb to the thrall of the Grand Relics. Wouldn't it tie together beautifully if the underlying mechanism was the same?

(And as an aside, if the above is all the case? I like the parallel with the Voidfish having been independently called "the Light of Creation," too. Because we have the Light as we call it, allowing John's voice and sentiment to be heard by the entire world — versus the Voidfish, allowing Johann's voice to be heard by the entire world. The Light and the voice that started the Hunger, and the Light and the voice that ended it. The two sides of eldritch-empowered bardic inspiration.)

I think being in such close contact with the Light for so many years did kinda do Something to the birds.

because Taako is not charismatic, that's canonical. but, even joke canonical, everyone adores him, desires him, wants to give him all their possessions. people cannot get enough of Taako, even after he dooms a town

Magnus, thanks to his rustic hospitality, is a likeable guy. but he was able to help lead the rebellion that gave him his folk hero status that gave him his rustic hospitality. people were willing to die by his side, this guy who was fairly new to their community

Lucretia managed to begin a whole secret organization and employ a large staff. These missions were deadly, dangerous, and promised the potential to have their very beings wiped from existence. yet people were willing to join the Bureau

these are the most striking instances of this but it's almost like a bit of that craveability brushed off on each of them through all their encounters with it