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crystallizedday · 23 days ago

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I NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE NEW DELTARUNE CHAPTERS OR I WILL EXPLODE

I wanna primarily talk about my take on the knight’s identity, but I’ll sprinkle a few other thoughts of mine in if I can, cause HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Anyway

MASSIVE spoilers for Deltarune chapters 3 & 4.

DO NOT CLICK READ MORE IF YOU DO NOT WANNA GET SPOILED!!

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!

To me, it’s down to Dess & Carol Holiday.

Look at this design.

Those are DEFINITELY antlers.

Toby knows his audience.

He’s poked fun of it in the game before (ie the theorist rant about Mike)

To me, he wouldn’t just include a design detail like that & NOT expect us all to think about the Holiday’s

So either he intentionally made them look like horns

Or it’s a red herring

& I highly doubt it’s the latter.

I DO think there’s a potential red herring, but it’s not in the knight’s design.

SPEAKING OF TOBY KNOWING HIS AUDIENCE & LIKELY HAVING THESE SPRITES HAVE SPECIFIC DETAILS

THOSE HAND HOLES ARE NOT A COINCIDENCE, & I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL!!

However, I don’t think it’s as mind blowing as it may seem at first.

Most of the fandom already agrees that Gaster has SOMETHING to do with the plot of Deltarune.

The hand holes don’t feel like something that indicates that Gaster is the knight.

Instead, it feels like it merely connects the knight TO Gaster.

Either the knight serves the former scientist (since there is no knight without a leader they follow)

They BOTH are of equal power, people who were once of the light now prisoners of the dark.

Whether they have the same goal is… not clear.

However, the very fact that we now have solid (even if unspoken & rather interpretive) confirmation that the knight and Gaster ARE related

Is a big deal

Even if we all kinda knew that already.

NOW

Back to the Holiday’s.

I actually played through chapter 3 & 4 myself without looking anything up beforehand.

Yes, I missed some things, but from what I DID see, I first came to the conclusion that Carol, Noelle’s mother, was the knight.

In chapter 4, Kris talks to someone on the phone.

Kris seems to be working with someone who wants the dark worlds to spread & grow, hence why they stop the player from reading the bunker code written inside Dess’ guitar (keep that last fact in mind).

We don’t know for certain who this voice belongs to.

Is it the knight?

Gaster?

The same person Spamton spoke with back before his fall from fame?

It all seemed ambiguous

Until this happened.

Kris tells the person on the phone that they failed to stop Susie from getting the guitar.

The person then says they’ll be “right there…”

Which leads to

You cannot tell me with a straight face that this is a coincidence.

Noelle KNOWS her mom’s work hours.

Why would Carol suddenly come home so early?

If Carol was not the one on the phone, then someone or something HAD to come over to Noelle’s.

The voice specifically says “I’ll be right there.”

Not “I’ll stop her”

Or “I’ll send someone.”

“I’ll be right there.”

Carol is the ONLY person who arrives at the house before Susie’s kicked out & Kris follows her.

Not to mention

Toby didn’t highlight “you” in RED merely to create emphasis.

He rarely does that.

We see him highlight stuff in YELLOW in this chapter, sure

But the only other thing he’s highlighted in red (from my recollection) was when Noelle talked about listening in for the presumed “mouse” while she & Susie wait in Dess’ room

& the red text hinted for you to make noise.

Considering that hint was for YOU & not KRIS (since you’re separated from Kris during this scene)

Me thinks it legitimately means something

& wasn’t just Toby deciding to be a lil funny & switch up his text colors for kicks (even if that WOULD be hilarious…)

THE POINT IS

I highly doubt Carol’s talking to Kris in the above scene, or at least, not JUST Kris.

I think she’s talking to the player.

The “you.”

We know from chapter 2’s Snowgrave route (specifically when you are about to defeat Spamton) that “you” refers to the player, not Kris.

Carol’s line here feels intentional.

ANOTHER INTERESTING THING

This COULD be seen as like

A metaphorical thing

(ie to show how “cold” Carol is toward others)

But considering Noelle’s whole thing in chapter 2

& the background ambiance when she arrives

& how Susie comments on FEELING the ACTUAL temperature drop…

It just feels

Too odd to be purely metaphorical.

Do I think this confirms she is the knight?

No.

To me, it merely shows that Carol is a PART of whatever this whole thing is.

Carol COULD be the knight

But to me, it doesn’t feel as thematically fitting as Dess being the knight.

Cause like

Dess is MISSING.

We don’t know HOW she went missing.

No one hasn’t seen her in quite a long time.

It makes sense that Dess, either willingly or forcefully, became the knight.

& when I say “became”

I mean like

MORPHED into it.

She IS the knight.

It is no suit of armor she can take off.

It is no dark world form she can shed if she were to enter the light world (assuming she ever could).

She IS the knight, & the knight is HER.

She is forever warped by a past event we have yet to see.

Plus

Carol feels like she has a few intentional red herrings that would make fans point to HER as the knight

Mainly the kitchen katana that she apparently uses to cut fruitcake with.

THAT feels like a straightforward red herring

Cause it’s TOO obvious.

Besides

The knight doesn’t wield a katana.

If Carol were the knight, I feel like the knight’s sword would be a lot more elegant looking, more katana-like.

It wouldn’t surprise me to see Carol KNOW about her eldest daughter’s fate & actively be working with her.

…

Also WHY IS THERE A NOTE IN DESS’ GUITAR??

Who put that there?

WHEN did they put that there?

I doubt it was Carol. That feels like a weird place to put a code. She feels like the character to have the code on HER at all times.

The code was likely from Dess herself.

Why was it put there?

To remind Dess how to open it (likely causing her to explore the shelter & later go “missing)?

Or perhaps

Somehow

It was written after her disappearance

As a quiet call for help

For SOMEONE to open the bunker & end the nightmare.

Carol could still know about the code without being the one to write it.

If Kris can spot the note so easily after only looking through the guitar ONCE

We can wager that Dess’ MOTHER, who LIVES in that house, likely found out about it at some point, ESPECIALLY if she truly is a part of the madness somehow.

Assuming this is all true, I wonder if Carol never plucked the note out because doing that would require breaking the guitar in some way, & she does not have the heart to do it.

That idea’s more headcanon-y than anything

Cause I’d just love to have a scene like that play out

Where she mumbled to herself about just getting rid of the damn note

But can’t without hurting the strings

Showing that she DOES still care. She DOES have humanity.

It’s just buried in the freezing cold.

…

… so while this seems like a good ending spot

I wanna say one last thing.

Fellas.

F e l l a s.

The later chapters don’t HAVE to abide by a set formula.

I keep seeing people argue whether this or that was the secret boss

& I’m just like

Fellas

It doesn’t have to match chapter 1 & 2’s format.

Hell, chapter 2 diverted from chapter 1’s format by making IT’s secret boss someone you encounter in game no matter how you play, a stark contrast from Jevil, who you can play the entire game without ever seeing a LICK of dialogue about him.

I think, out of everything, we shouldn’t worry about “who the secret boss is.”

No.

We should be more concerned about the shadow crystals & where they end up.

Cause APPARENTLY

DEFEATING THE KNIGHT IN CHAPTER 3 LEADS TO SUSIE CHIPPING OFF A PIECE OF THEIR SWORD

& WHEN YOU GO TO PICK UP THE SHARD

YOU ADDITIONALLY GET A SHADOW CRYSTAL!!

At first, I assumed the shadow crystal came FROM the sword, but that may not be entirely right.

Even still, I think the crystals either come FROM the knight

Or the knight & the crystals come from the same place.

Now, how specific characters get a hold of it

Is… up in the air.

We see Gerson hand one to Susie in chapter 4.

He tells her that someone likely wanted him to use it, but he didn’t find it interesting, so he never really did anything with it.

Perhaps someone (the knight, Carol, Gaster, who knows) is giving certain Darkeners shadow crystals for some unknown reason.

Whatever the reason is, considering the bosses to get these shadow crystals all tie to EXTREMELY hard boss fights, it’s likely a source of power the corrupts the user, just as it did with Jevil & Spamton.

By that logic

I suppose the knight IS the secret boss

But more so that the secret to the boss is that it’s winnable

Which feels

Very hilarious & overall Toby-ish to me, not gonna lie. IWNWODMWOCKSOMXOSMXODCM

But uh

Seriously.

We gotta look at how these bosses connect on a far less shallow level. We can’t be too occupied with interpretive patterns in the chapters’ varying story beats

Cause those story beats aren’t always gonna be repeated.

After all, repeating story beats make the rest of the potential chapters predictable

& I doubt Toby’s gonna be doing that…

Anyway uh

That’s all for now.

…

Ya know

Aside from how we finally got concrete confirmation that monsters bleed (so the whole “when you kill sans, you cut through some ketchup he had hidden away to make it look like blood” debate no longer matters)

Ralsai directly addressing how there MUST be another ending to their story (& suggesting that Toby’s “one ending” claim may be tied to the prophecy specifically)

Dead monsters having the capacity to be “revived” in the dark world, even if we can never be sure if it’s really “them”

THE FUCKING SNOWGRAVE CONTINUATION SCENE IN CHAPTER 4

LIKE HOLY SHIT

But that last one’s for another time

… probably.

For now, imma just

Close off my ramblings here before I spend another 2 hours of my day talking about how these two chapters absolutely DESTROYED my brain.

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twilightofthesandwiches · 20 days ago

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The heavy Weird Route References in the Shadow Mantle are very… chilling (if you excuse the pun), no matter how you interpret them.

I’ve seen people theorize that since Spamton used to live in the Z-Rank room that has access to the S-Rank Room, this is actually how he learned of the possibilities of the Weird Route and how to use it for his own BIG SHOT benefits.

I’ve seen this interpreted as… almost the game trying to goad you into a Weird route if you haven’t done one yet. After all, you’re here cause you wanted to Complete the Game, see everything and achieve everything, and gain literal Game-Breaking Power. Wouldn’t the Weird Route be perfect for you?

Or you can look at the elements that haven’t appeared in the Weird Route as perhaps prescient to future changes caused by Snowgrave on the rest of the game. Like that we will eventually meet a ‘real-life’ counterpart to the Shadow Mantle boss…

Or that we will eventually face situations kinda like…

Or that this is maybe a sign for things to come in a different way. That Snowgrave being an alternative method for getting the Spamton NEO boss fight was just the tip of the iceberg. That later ‘Secret Boss Routes’ will require you to do increasingly morally repugnant things to complete them - up to and including requiring a Snowgrave-like route to even reach the Secret Boss. Basically circling back to Undertale’s Murder Routes themes of a Player doing horrible things just to ‘complete’ the Game.

But the idea I’m fixating on is… there are multiple angles to the idea of ‘Your Choices Don’t Matter’ that Deltarune can explore or has explored. There’s the idea of railroading, which obviously works in tandem with this whole storyline idea of the prophecy and the characters' attempts to fulfil or defy it. There's the matter of Character Agency versus Player Agency, with characters (including Kris) expressing their free will by overriding the Player's choices and on the other hand, the Weird Route allowing the Player 'freedom' by stripping the agency and will of Kris and Noelle. There's the idea of an ending being recontextualized by certain choices even when it's technically the same, which Chapters 1 + 2 + 3 all touched on.

And… if there's one the Game hasn't quite touched yet, it's choices not mattering due to the existence of a multiverse/alternative timelines. Your choices don’t matter because the world where you made another choice exists is just as real as your current one.

Well, I mean… it wasn’t overtly touched on. The existence of Multiple SAVE Files, unlike Undertale, the ‘Your Choices Matter’ Game, and its singular SAVE, kinda plays into the theme. Both in the sense of “having multiple SAVEs with different routes was be inherently counterproductive the emotional impact of Undertale’s choices… but now your Choices Don’t Matter so now you can have multiple SAVEs!” and in the sense that the multiple SAVEs themselves are part of the reason why your choices don’t matter. You are both fully aware of and capable of freely switching between three different timelines and can just pick your Favorite Consequences. And that robs your Choices of any real impact.

But also… most Players are aware of more than just the three timelines assigned to them. Undertale and Deltarune are games with huge online fandoms, who spend a lot of time experimenting and documenting and sharing every single variation and detail in these games. Undertale was primarily invested in your personal choices in your version of the Undertale, and only had a chance to allude to this idea…

But Deltarune already having more to do diverging Timelines, both with the three SAVE Files and the fact that it’s an alternative universe of Undertale. So honestly, since Chapter 2 and the Weird Route, I have been considering the possibility… what if your Choices Don’t Matter even in the Weird Route because even if you personally choose to not Go Snowgrave, the existence of the Weird Route and the fact that someone, somewhere did decide to do it, still had affects over the entire multiverse.

Basically, what if eventually the Weird Route creates some sort of rogue power like a Weird!Noelle or Weird!Kris who decides to go after not just the Players who tormented them, but even Players from other universes who chose differently. Where basically your choices didn't matter because every Player will be 'punished' for the Weird Route. (Obviously giving some exposition of who and what they are for the Players who aren’t involved with the Fandom and actually have no idea about any Routes but their own.)

Or that the Weird Route is simply so wrong that the harm that it created echoes through the multiverse in a way that corrupts even timeline where it did not happen. Kinda like…

And of course, here it gets into the point of Deltarune's theme being less "Your Choices Don't Matter!" and more "Your Choices Don't Matter?". Because even if Sir Berdly the Defrosted is gonna show up from the void between worlds to give you a Bad Time, does that mean it doesn't matter at all if he's punishing you for your actual misdeeds or if you're basically an innocent bystander screwed-over by the sins of someone else? Is "oh well, I would have gotten 'punished' even if I hadn't done it" a good reason for your torment of Noelle and Kris? Is the fact that there are timelines where Noelle came out of Cyber World traumatized and afraid (…I mean, even more so than she already was) makes the happier timelines where that did not happen meaningless? Do the existence of the multiple timelines (and even our ability to switch around between three of them) actually rob our Choices of their Meaning?

#deltarune #deltarune spoilers #deltarune secret boss #deltarune chapter 3 #deltarune chapter three #snowgrave #weird route #snowgrave route #deltarune snowgrave #deltarune weird route #shadow mantle #deltarune theory #deltarune speculation #deltarune thoughts #deltarune textposts

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akanemnon · 1 month ago

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So one thing that puzzles me. The current dark world was created fairly recently by Flowey, and yet the residents seem to have memories of a long time ago. Do they actually have these pasts from being darkness before or have they been given these backstories by their objects (but didn't actually experience them cause not alive yet)?

If you play the first two Chapters of Deltarune and read all complimentary material from Mr. Tobert Radiation Fox himself (Noelle's blogposts, Spamton's Q&A, etc...), you will quickly notice that the Darkners inhabiting these Dark Worlds have a past. They have history with one another despite their Dark Worlds only having been created recently. The very same is the case here.

If there is something that seems puzzling to you, most likely it is a DIRECT reference to the games this comic is based on. I take A LOT from the source material. Of course, I don't know everything, but I do my homework.

I know that doesn't make the comic series the most accessible to get into. But it is a fan comic. So I kinda figure the people reading it have played both games before. Or at least one of them. (And then I look at the comment section of some of the comic dubs on Youtube and I cry in media illeteracy)

#ask akane #twin runes #queued post #deltarune

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yourheartasmymark · 6 days ago

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so after going through all the dialogue again, i think ive fully built my take on the spamtenna fall out situationship. this is purely my own reading and not like. a definitive Argument on what went down.

its clear they both went into this as a business agreement originally. you scratch my back, i scratch yours. tenna helps spamton with the way he presents himself and his public image, spamton shares his secret to success. however, it clearly grew over time, and the two genuinely grew close, at least enough to consider each other friends. perhaps due to this, spamton eventually relented to tell tenna how he was so successful.

now, we actually dont have the whole story on what happens next. spamton never shared his side of what happened that day, only the aftermath, so we only have tennas version to go off of. that being said, i think its enough to get a grasp on things. spamton gets a call, suddenly, and steps away to take it. after a brief moment, he turns visibly pale and runs off. tenna, criticially, does not go after him. he goes for the phone instead, but finds nobody on the other side. spamton never comes back.

it can be very difficult to get a feel for spamtons thoughts. hes a very unreliable narrator, and obviously not stable at even the best of times, but i think the scene in chapter 3 where they reunite does shed a lot of light on what spamton felt. he was surprised that tenna cared about him enough to keep a memento. and i think this is related to tenna not coming after him.

spamton ran off in distress and tenna didnt come after him to see if he was okay. in spamtons mind, this indicated that it was only ever business between them; based on his reaction to finding out tenna kept a pipis, he thought tenna didnt actually care at all.

(this is purely guessing, but based on how he blames tenna for his downfall, its possible that was the call where his benefactor cut him off, possibly because he was going to tell tenna. again, this is purely guessing.)

however, spamton didnt come back to ask, to be honest and straightforward with tenna. he just assumed the worst and ghosted him, and in turn tenna was left to feel as though spamton had only ever wanted to scam him.

neither of them were right here. spamton was unwilling to be direct with tenna, and just stopped talking to him entirely. its perfectly natural for tenna to suspect spamton had planned to rip him off. that being said, tenna not going after spamton was Not Great either, but i also dont blame him for not realizing that one moment could screw things up.

afterwards, spamton went all in on his bitterness. he spitefully wished for tennas death or downfall as yet another person who had betrayed and abandoned him. tenna tried to repress it, keeping a memento from spamton but hiding it and notably never referring to spamton by name (only referring to him as the “mailman”), but he also on some level blames spamton for his own struggles, as seen during his break down.

their relationship fell apart because. well firstly do not ever mix business and personal relationships that is just a recipe for disaster jesus christ. but mainly because of a complete lack of communication, a series of assumptions, and intentional withholding of information. 🔥toxic yaoi🔥

#deltarune #spamton #tenna #spamtenna

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juliating · 28 days ago

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Yes your honor I'm crazed about how Spamtons' body anatomy may look like/work😵‍💫

btw down below are a few hcs to satisfy my brainworms!! AND! I mayhaps have written a fic about them 2 SNEO pics here's the AO3 link

(summary: Spamton NEO and Reader fly trough the sky with a few discoveries anatomy wise of eachother, eating/sleeping togheter. posted both on ao3 and under read more)

Alright for starters a few hc!!

What if Spamton has to calibrate with what strength he touches/grabs/holds the reader? Compared to organic beings being rather squishy; nearly all things/ppl in the darkworld are made out of hard material n stuff! My hc is that these residents in cyber city are all mechanical beings.

So some are covered in a synthetic hide to look more viewable/protect their mechanisms or to avoid dirt in joints/airvents (due to spamton being "skinless" he needs to clean his joints in order to have fluid movement which gets neglected)

The only part which generates heat is the head, so the rest of the body is equal to the ambient temperature. Metal parts underneath could get warm but the outside plastic shell doesn't since that material is a bad heat transmitter.

Balljoints are twice secured so that they can't get easily disclocated. Given trough their build they have both hinge and ball joints in one -> black gasket can rotate/ full 360° articulation

Gray areas are made of a plastic-rubbery like texture, so when folding an arm in, upper body leaning down, bending legs etc. the said area gives in! The abdomen is just one big ol' balljoint

Imagine being able to fly on Spamton NEOs' back like on a Lunala flying trough an ultra wormhole!

NEOs' eyes are permanently open with his glasses embedded in his now skin-having face. So he has a small bump from the nose bridge still is under his skin. The most 'closed' he can do is dimming them.

Btw my NEO version has both mittens and mechanical arms/legs! They're hidden in the plush in default mode. Keep in mind that despite the soft plush, there's metal underneath. Meaning it would still hurt a LOT if he'd whack you with it. And I gave him airvents on his side similiar to gills (shhh secret Big Shot Salmonid reference)

Also I think once Spamton settles down/is in a better state he goes from janky/stiff motions to almost uncanny smooth movement after he's free of any unwanted particles inside his cavities/joints (example that one super expensive Avatar animatronic)

In my head SNEO, when excited or smth similiar, sometimes forgets his own strength. Like a previously hand-raised big animal if you know what I mean

Feel free to correct any grammatical errors since English isnt my first language.

1. (First idea was with the reader fixing a more mechanical part inside Spamton's chest cavity. But then later that day I saw something nearly identical so I changed it a bit. Man my heart was doing cartwheels out of fear of looking like a copycat!!☠️)-still in work 3. (still need a plan where that one might be going)

2. Sun-blighted sky

The slight breeze feels nice. Wonder if he can feel it too. At first you were a bit hesitant by the idea but then gave in. Spamton NEO suggested that you two go to soar trough the sunless skies of cyber city. With you being held safely in his mitten like hands. His thumbs are clamped around your shoulders for a good grip. Soft enough not to hurt yet still secure.

You once asked him why he won't use his actual arms, the ones who are hidden inside the plush exterior. At that he told you that those are more for combat. Huh. Wouldn't want to image getting sliced up by those vicious looking claws of his. Or get shot with his arm cannon. Not to mention the eye lazers.

The once green wires Spamton despised so much are now commanded by his will. All thanks to you. Only after him agreeing to not go after those who apparently wronged him. Due to the NEO suits' immense weight the strings withstand constant tension. Creaking and groaning. He needs to adjust his grip every now and then since the plush material does't have a good adhesion. After a while Spamton adjusts it yet again.

Goodness gracious how beautiful the magenta armor gleams around his body. Beside it being illuminated by the chest core, looking closer, you can also see the moving grids dancing along the edges in an almost hypnotizing manner.

This time you feel the scratchy fabric in the middle of your chest. Right where your heart is. You don't see it but his face twists into one of confusion or like he suddenly remembered something. Spamton presses one of his mittens onto your sternum. It seems like he's searching for something. You panic for a moment thinking he'd rip the last remaining soul shard out.

"Hey Spam-", he interrupts you before you could even finish his name.

"WHAT IS THAT??", each word ever changing from a shrill pitch to a low, dull tone.

You can literally feel the vibration in your body every time that boisterous voice of his reverberates. Kind of similiar to those big speakers blaring music near the ferris wheel.

The mitten is loosing it's grip a bit. Fearing he may drop you accidently, you grip one of them with both arms and legs. You really dont fancy being dropped from this height. This short ordeal causes adrenaline to kick in and an increased heartbeat. Spamton shakes you off into the other one whilst stopping mid flight.

Before you could latch onto the other arm again you feel yourself being lifted up rather harshly. Similiar how one would throw their arms out to catch a falling object. Tapping the faintly glowing triangle chestpiece doesn't seem to get his attention neither.

Yelling out his name makes him stop dead in his tracks. Before you know it he flips you onto your back in one hand. Spamton pressed the side of his head on your chest, or to say on a better therm, nearly entire body. Assuming the location of his 'ears' are the same with humans this feels similiar to a doctor pressing their stethoscope in order to listen to your heartbeat.

Truth to be told you never knew how his body even worked. Whether his puppet-machine like body nor the current 'armed to the teeth' NEO suit. But Spamton once told you that he hears a bit differently than organic beings. After lifting the each side of his artificial hair you've noticed that they're located on different heights. Imitating those of a birds'. These so called 'ears' are infact just audio frequency analyzers.

So that's what has been going trough his RAM then! Of course how should he know what a heartbeat is when all residents are non organic.

The hunk of hard plastic starts to feel quite warm. If his multiple pcbs inside his head are so hot already to the point the exterior heats up then why didn't his internal fans kick in already? With the NEO suit being in Queen's basement for long sure must've taken a toll on its' heat insulation hasn't it? Spamton should know this.

Maybe he surpresses the air circulation in order to hear more. Come thinking of it the NEO suit must have some sort of manual or something. It's probably saved digitally in his database.

He sees you staring off into the distance seemingly lost in thought. Don't humans have a maintenance check every now and then? Shifting the arms holding you a bit higher he finds the sound source.

Browsing trough the previously saved records he notices that your current frequency is too high for his liking. Or maybe he picked it up wrong. Pushing the other side of his head on your sternum he's gauging it again for safety.

Hmph, your heavy breathing doesn't make it any easier to register-wait, WAIT!! Normally he barely picks it up! Only when you're stressed or [[OW! STOP, IT BURNS]]!! Was he squeezing you too much?? Maybe it's the altitude? Gah what does he know how a [[LIGhT>NERS]] body functions.

He lets the wires, which sprout from his back and connect to the projected grids in the sky, decend you both to a less death-drop height.

Now you two are hovering right above Spamtons' old house in the trash zone. The grids' colour slowly began to change from neon green to a dimmed hue. Signaling the night. In the distance you can see some Addisons glow brighter to attract more customers.

"THIS.", as he began to speak once again, voicebox crackling with static and huge teeth clanking togheter the same tact as words get send out, "THAT THUMPING [[Comming on June 5th for only 24,99€]] FROM YOUR CHEST!! IT SOUNDS FASTER THAN USUAL. SOMETHING THE MATTER [[LIGhT>NER]]??"

During talking he squished your body between his mitten hands and head. Wanting to be closer to the source. It's such a soothing sound!! He pokes his thumbs onto your ribcage out of curiosity. Hearing you yelp at that makes him stop though.

Oh right, the sensation of being touched in non protected areas makes some humans squirm away or even laugh. Rather from pain signals than enjoyment. He recalls that from the time you once roughly explained your endoskel- err just skeleton you called it. It's still so strange to him that one wrong hit to your head could end your life.

Finally snapping out of your train of thought, "Uh-, well! I think you mean my heartbeat Spamton.", signaling him to move his head away to give your some room to breathe by tapping your fingers on his forehead. He looks you dead in the eyes. On his pupil-less lenses you can see your own reflection staring right back at you.

"HEARTBEAT AS IN HEARTATTACK? AH; WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO THEN! YOU STILL DIDN'T ANSWER THE SECOND [[questions? ask your doctor or pharmacist]].", wanting an answer.

Aw man, you hope he doesnt interpret you being short therm startled from the suddenness from his action as a negative thing.

"Don't take this the wrong way but y'know being tossed around in the air like previously shook me up a bit. No harm done though. Also, a raised heartrate can have many factors meaning it isn't all from bad intent. I did enjoy the flight so far though!"

"RIGHT, APOLOGIES, [[want a free sample?]] HAPPEN AGAIN", not all from bad intent hm? He lifts you by the armpits again as if asking to continue the flight which you gladly accept. Rethinking he chooses to put you on his back between his head and strings.

You perch down carefully so that your body doesnt touch the wires too much. Legs bend and pressed to his sides with your hands holding onto his 'shoulders'. Well technically his wing mounts now since all of his limbs float near his body. The whole time the wires did all work work with the flying. His useless wings are mostly positioned horizontally rarely doing a flapping motion.

"SAY [[valued customer]], I DO HAVE A FEW OF MY OWN; [[three for the price of one!]] EVEN!!", anticipating your reaction. Head rotating 180 degrees to look at you for a bit, then turning back.

Wait does he mean one or three now? The ad interruption indicates three rather than one you realize. So three hearts it is huh. Like an octopus or squid. You decide to pry a bit to like he did to you beforehand.

"So are they synchronized in one single beat similiar to mine or out of sync?", hoping to get some details instead of a yes or no. Satisfied with your acknowledgment he fulfills the request. The flight speeds down a notch once more.

Show rather than tell it is. Spamton lets his arms slowly float up to where you sat. Moving his head to see you in his peripheral vision to avoid accidently knocking you off. Gently lifting you up again he maneuvers your body so that it's laying in his mitten hands. One supporting your torso, the other one letting your legs rest on.

Having you in a comfortable position, he brings you down to be eye level with the glowing triangle which sticks out of his chest. Without skewering you with it, his hands press you to the right side of it. The magenta armor the rest of your body has contact with is littered with dents and scratches which vary in sizes. Your hands reach around his body as far as they can. Trying your best to hug him.

While the thick, protective plates are getting slightly warmer from your body heat, his actual pitch black body is almost freezing to the touch. You can feel the slightest vibrations on his body from the fans keeping his processors from becomming too hot.

Inside the triangle mechanism you hear a faint whirring. It sounds akin to that of an old cd player. Must be that 'LoadedDisk' in which he uploaded his partly corrupted code back then. Leaning in closer you hear a short hum, as if a command gets processed, followed by three time-shifted clicks and pops. Whereas one resounded slower and duller than the rest. All the while he kept switching from looking straight ahead or down at you resting ever so peacefully in his arms.

"[[VALUED CUSTOMER SATISFACTION]]?", voice dripping with longed-for appreciation. Lifting you up until you're both eye to eye -or to say better eye to sensing camera. Awaiting an answer.

No matter how many times you've gotten the opportunity to gaze at Spamtons' eyes like this, it never stopped the feeling of intimidation creeping up from being directly stared at by this mighty being. Who wouldn't be, considering he's almost thrice your height now. Once the words '10/10 review' and 'would do again' came out of your mouth the colours on his eyes flickered back and forth with excitement. Grin growing wider.

He immediantly saves that sentence unbeknownst you in his memory to replay for later. Only you can give him the feeling of 'being at the top of the world' like this. Head raised with pride, he flies the rest of the route with a now non forced smile engraved on his face. Finally, finally the permanent up-turned mouthcorners portay his emotions correctly! He's positively giddy about this.

Subconsciously he starts swaying his hands, which pressed you against the now comfortale warm metal again, side to side. Unintentionally lulling you to sleep. Too caught up in his own world for him to notice.

As it was getting later you must've gotten quite hungry considering he can hear the acid chamber you call your stomach growl. Of course from spending your entire day with the now large, puppet-like salesman you haven't had the chance to eat anything.

"YOU WANT TO [[Wine n' Dine]]? I'LL DROP YOU OFF NEAR YOUR [[limited offer for cheap estatements]] COMPLETLY [[Free of charge!]]!!", asking while not looking down at you.

He waits for a response which never came. Puzzled that you didn't respond to his [[Genorisity]] nor him saying your actual name, which is already a rare occurence, he decides to spare you a glance. He moves you away from his chest and infront of his face once more. Only to find you limb with closed eyes and slightly agape mouth. So this must be the so called 'sleeping' you've mentioned a few times! An active sate of unconsciousness to recharge!!

Seems like he has to take matters into his own hands. Letting you continue sleeping, he hugs you to his still warm chestplates. Unoccupied arms winding around his body. He supports your body on his left mitten while the other one acts as a pillow. He spreads his fingers hiding inside the mitten to have a wider area available so that your legs stop dangling around. Your body sinks in a bit. This makes the hand your head rests on a suprisingly good silencer meaning not even his permanent yelling gets registered.

Ascending as high as the wires can lift him, he's navigating the ideal route. Upon finding it, he glides at the highest possible tempo the wires are able to carry him without disturbing you. Wings tucked close to his body, akin to a hawk, he dives down to the location. Moving wires making a sharp hissing sound, equal to that of a zip line ride. Still a miracle that you haven't woken up.

The speed making his pitch black hair blow back, loose strands fluttering wildly. Arriving at the destination, he settles down far enough to not alert any other Darkners living there. Letting the wires zip into his back cavity. Tapping your head; shaking you to wake you up.

You stirred, beginning to wake up. Urrghhh. Blinking a few times, your eyes adjust to the darkness. Finally being awake enough to think properly, you began to recognize the place you see. It's only a few minutes of walking to your living place! Weren't you just flying with Spamton?

Spamtons' bi-coloured glasses comming into view makes you flinch away and shield your eyes from the sudden brightness. He explains, as quietly as his voicebox allows, that you went into resting mode in his arms, so he flew you back near your home. Huh, resting mode? Curses, you didn't mean you fall asleep on him! Ah, maybe next time you can pull through without dozing off.

Feeling your stomach growl you decided to leave it for today. There's always a tomorrow. Hold on, he has got to be hungry too from all the flying and moving around. Do Darkners even need to eat or sleep in order to recharge? Well, even if he doesn't, a little kindness never hurt anyone! Expecially he needs that after all the stuff he has been trough in his life.

As far as you can recall you've never seen Spamton show any signs of tiredness nor exhaustion. More worn out from mental exhaustion and frustration. On top of that he stated that the NEO suit runs with an alternator, similiar to one of a car. Strange coincidence that he was working in the car industry before his downfall.

That's it! You're going to invite him to eat dinner with you! Hmm but you'll need to word it carefully so that he doesn't wave his hand in a dismissve 'nah don't need it' manner. Using his own tactics, how he wrapped customers around his jointed finger into buying his wares, you make him an '[[irresistable deal!!!]]' with no strings attached. Literally. Only the best learn from the best.

As if hearing your thoughts he begins to reject your offer. This time you interrupt him before he could emit the first word. A wee bit too stunned to speak from getting a taste of his own medicine, he lets the wires zip out to relink with the sky grid to blast off.

Before he could make a run for it you cling onto one of his legs. Even though clearly displeased, he gives in after several 'pretty pleases with sprinkles on top'. Oh, how he loathes being at the receiving end of hospitality even if it's from kindness rather than that behated pity of his. Corners of mouth drooping into a frown for a split second; then go back into the default smile. Forget it, he's not in the mood to banter around with that. This time he can overlook it. He'll even the deal out the first opportunity he gets.

Hovering closer to the ground, hooking your clothing scruff between his fingers, he snags you off of him and sets you down. You tell him to wait here until you're back with both of your meals. Not wanting to keep him waiting for too long you zoom to your living place. From all the hussle you haven't had any time to think about what he'd like to eat! 'Spaghetti Code' maybe? That's the only type of meal you've ever heard him mention briefly. Quickest thing would be ordering but your loan says no.

So instead of that you decide to do it yourself. Snatching multiple spaghetti packs, sauce cans and seasoning. Mentally weighting off how much you both will propably eat. Hopefully enough. Not even an hour later you're halfway finished filling up the food containers. You also bring your backbag with your laptop and seasoning incase he's preferring more. Swinging it on you take the first big container and march to him.

Upon hearing footsteps Spamton peeks around the corner of the abandoned warehouse he's sheltered in. It's you!!

"Here's the first delivery plus my laptop so that we can watch something while eating! There's still some left I'll go get the rest; you can start already if you want", you drop everything to where he's sitting, handing him the food before it cools out on the ground.

Before he can say something you're already bolting back home. Out of politeness he waits for you to come back so you can start eating together.

While waiting for your return he looks around. Busted mattresses littered everywhere. Getting up, he floats to them. He doesn't mind where and how he sits nor eats. But since you organic beings can get sick from being in the cold out for too long, he starts piling them up in a corner. Creating a makeshift bed/resting place. Balancing the food box on his floating head which stays perfectly still in place, grabbing your backbag so that they don't get dirty from him maneuvering the junk around.

Content with it he nestles in, surpresses his cooling, warming them up. He's laying on his chest, glass-triangle so sharp that it's tearing a sizeable hole into one of the mattresses. The aged filling leaving dirt stains on his [[Work-Out ready body]]!! Eurgh.

Spamton lifts his upper body. Roughly grabs and disgards the useless thing by throwing it across the warehouse room. Mattress hitting the worn wall with such brutish force that the thump echoes trough the entire building. Filling flying around like snowflakes before falling on the ground. Scowling at it, face red with anger and a twisted visage.

Borderline thinking about annihilating it with his arm cannon; he decides against it, not letting any anger get the best of him. Hypocritically speaking in the past, before NEO, he would've jumped out of joy having just one half of it. Hearing your footsteps again he picks the pieces from his head and puts them in one hand. Dimming his lights.

In the dark room the only thing one could make out, were his glasses and chest-triangle. His eyes don't light his face up that much but the triangle, even when dimmed, does. Teeth lit up from the bottom in an eerie manner. The rest of the body is shrouded in utter darkness. If someone else would walk in and see this, they'd probably die of fright on the spot.

Back once more, you carry the rest of the food. Spaghetti and sauce seperated. You were about to search for his whereabouts. Walking further into the building. The search didn't last long because he approched you from behind, without you noticing. You jumped what felt like five meters into the air as you felt a mitten-hand touching the top of your head. He can be surprisingly quiet if he wants to.

Turning around you see Spamton openly guffawing with a shit-eating grin. The same mitten petting the top of your head mockingly. "GEAHHEAHEAHEAHEA!!! NOT SO [[sales jumping up,up,up!]]!! LOOK, OVER THERE WE CAN EAT", pointing with his thumb into the room he came from. The dark room being illuminated by his eyes, chest-triangle and the holographic part of his wings.

Leading you to the corner you unzipped you backbag and set everything down in comfortable reach. Since you didn't know if Spamton is going to eat with cutlery or not, given how comically small they are in his mittens, you still got some for him. Whilst the laptop was booting up both of you took your own portion.

You sit down onto the mattress pile, plate in hand. They feel unexpectedly warm to the touch! Spamton must've been resting on them the whole time. One thing that had you do a double take though was a mattress, which looked like it got mauled and nearly torn in half, in the opposite side of the room. Filling scattered everywhere on ground and all. Huh. Wasn't like this before. Sideeying him, made him respond with a 'wasn't me!' look. Sureee.

Anyways! Once he got a portion, literally a whole box, he laid down behind you. Chest to your back and triangle by your right. Looking back at your laptop you asked him for any suggestions for what to watch. He chose a documentation about old timey cars. Suits him. Once the brand 'Cungadero' got mentioned, he perked up and moved his whole body closer. Promting you to use it as a rest.

Really opened a can of worms there. Spamton immediately began brabbling about that brand like crazed. Head twitching and turning in all different kinds of directions. Multiple voices overlapping, glitching and each one louder than the last. Not being kind to your ears. The tinnitus tomorrow will be worth it though! History, creation and build aspects. Everything. Both of you completely forgetting the food.

The armor isn't the softest material to fully lean onto though. Some raised edges dig into your skin. So you lean back forward. You see his unoccupied arm shift and feel something dropped behind you. Another mattress! Which looked more like a small pillow in his hand. Thanking him, you lean back again, starting to eat.

Or- wanted to eat. Only to find that it has gotten cold already. Eh, you can live with that.

Spamton stopped talking when he saw you hesistating and then shrugging, twirling some noodles onto your fork. He switches his vision to a thermal one, checking both of your portions and the rest of the containers. Did he really talk for so long that the spaghetti code got cold? He can fix that.

"NO. [[prices dropping by 20%!!]] THAT DOWN. PUT IT INTO THE [[boxing gloves for 49,99€]] AND GIVE IT TO ME. I'LL HEAT IT UP", a beat passes, "IF YOU PLEASE!!". Holding a hand out.

Doing so, you give it to him. Pondering if he'll just press them against his face or something. You watch as he takes every container into his hands and puts them into... INTO his mouth?! He must be warming them up inside his head! Like a big ol' microwave!! Not sure how to feel about that. There better won't be any spit on them, if he even has any to speak of. After a while he takes them out, shame he didn't do the 'Ding!' sound. Puffing out some heated air. Thankfully, for your appetite, they're as clean as they were before.

Wondering how Spamton even eats, you secretly peek at his head resting on the mattress pile about a meter away. Holding an open box to his mouth. He must've manifested a neck using magic so that the food can be passed into the main body for decoding it.

No matter how cautiously you glance at him he still picks it up. Mutual feeling; since he hasn't seen you eat either!! Normally, Addisons can just dump anything down their throats which then gets decoded into a bunch of 1s and 0s. Instead of giving energy, they receive flavour codes. But regarding formality they take bites and chew. Like [[LIGhT>NER]]s. So he assumes that humans shouldn't be too different.

He lifts his head up slightly from its' laying postion. Doing the polite route he lets his [[coral blue #2]] tongue slither inside the food box. Wrapping it around some noodles, he scoops them up and retracts it back into his mouth. Biting off any excess. His broad teeth act like a hydraulic press. Favouring crushing over cutting.

When he bites some off his upper tooth row comes down onto his bottom lip. That 'lip' functions like a black rubber gasket. Same material. Which prevents any damage/cracks incase his upper tooth row clashes too hard onto his jaw. Plus, the top one sinks in a bit in order to absorb the impact.

Ooooh it tastes DELICIS!!! Could rival the taste of his beloved Kromer!! Giving up on being patient with it he starts devouring the food like a man starved. Not caring how much sauce stains his teeth. Once finished with the first box he make short work of the second one. Throwing his head back and dumping the entire content full of greed in one go down. Before he did the same with the third, and last, box he stops himself. Wanting to savour it. Also, he has an idea for a topping he thinks you may like.

What looked like a whole week worth of food to you were only a few bites to Spamton; who was practically inhaling it according to some glances you landed. Technically he could've inhaled it, so to speak of. From your view you even saw that his bottom 'lip' shines ever so slightly at a certain angle.

Even without any projected pupils on his glasses you still felt his gaze on you from time to time. You wonder why he stopped before the third box though. Nevertheless, maybe he has his reasons or waits for something. Not thinking much of it, you continue eating and watching the rest of the documentary. You try your best to stay awake for his sake, you struggle against nodding off again.

From some opportunity windows you had, you could make out that he only bit noodles off and never chewed. At one glance to another an entire box was empty. The way he scooped portions into his mouth reminded you of a giraffe eating leaves. No surprise considering that he almost never fully closes his mout with the lack of proper functional lips or cheeks. Well atleast he seemed to enjoy it!

Halfway done with eating your portion, you hear Spamton starting to finish off the last box. What surprised you though, was on his last bite he picked up the spare fork you brought. Struggling a bit to hold it correctly. But before doing anything with it he turns to you.

"[[Stop the presses!]] THERE, WOULD YOU LIKE A [[Free samples for each product!]]??", holding one hand near your food. You move your plate acceptingly to him.

Holding his empty hand above your portion then rotating his wrist he summons a 'Pipis'; which then placed ontop of your food. After fully registering what it is you tense up, not daring to move a muscle. Why would he give you a grenade?! Despite it being smaller and having some seared spots you're still not so sure about stabbing it with your fork. You glance dumfounded at Spamton.

Looking down at you, he's awaiting you to try the 'Fried Pipis'. But apparently you don't get the memo that it's something to eat instead of an explosive this time. He summons another one and bites a chunk off of it, giving you a loopy smile. Showing you that it's save for consumption and won't blow your face off. Leaning down he looks at you expectingly.

So edible grenades it is then. You cut it into a few stripes while he gnashes down the rest of it. Picking one up you decided to give it a try. It surprisingly tastes a tad like mozzarella! Maybe the magic stuff automatically determines how it'll taste like when put into another dish.

Seeing your eyes widen in surprise makes Spamton huff out a barely audible laugh; some leftover steam warming your skin. "HEAEAEAEA [[Told ya so]]!!", waving the fork into you direction then going back to what he wanted to do before.

Doing his best to twirl some spaghetti on and putting it in his mouth, then fully closing it the best he can, and chews. Mimicking you. You only saw him dipping his head back; no swallowing or anything like that. Interesting! With both of you being finished, he takes the sauce container and licks it clean of any leftovers.

Container being cleaned he sets it aside on the ground. Not without leaving a comment of course! Patting your back in an acknowledging 'good job!' fashion.

"[[5 star rated restaurant]] DEAR CUSTOMER!!", default grin growing wider while rearranging some loose mattresses near where you sat.

Some were placed under his head so that it's propped up a hint instead of laying flat. Now you can see his face more clearly in your peripheral vision again. Seeing his teeth stained from trying to eat like you near the end. Sauce and crushed noodle bits smeared everywhere.

Normally saliva, if he had any, would clean it from its own but not in his case due to having permanent bared teeth. You can help with that!

"You've got some on your teeth right there, Spamton!", motioning with your hand at your own mouth for reference.

Upon hearing that he lets his tongue out yet again gliding over both of his rows of teeth. The rough texture leaving near to nothing left in its' wake. Well except one stray noodle piece it didn't reach one of his dimples. "ALL [[sales gone down the drain, drain]]??", staring at you. Hands resting neatly ontop of his armor while his arms are wrapped around his body.

"Eh- not quite. I can get it for you if you let me though!", lifting your hand to hover near his head, asking for permission to help incase the sudden touch startles him somehow. Which he gladly accepts with a small nod; leaning in your direction so that he fully faces you. He watches you get up and march to him, sinking in the old mattresses with each step, then plopping down on them once you're in comfortable reach of him.

Sitting cross-legged near Spamton you're about the same height as his nose. This would sure be an inconvenient time for any spontaneous movements or else he could poke an eye out by accident. Cautiously lifting your arm up to the side of his face, keeping an eye out for any twitches.

He's doing everything in his might to prevent any sudden head twitches, not wanting to knock you over nor stabbing you with his nose. Watching you swipe something off of him with your thumb, feeling the soft flesh on your thumb. Why was it shaking a little? Pfft, do you really think he'd bite your arm off or something??

Not sure what to do with it, you hold it back out to him indicating to pick it from you in his own mitten to eat. Instead, Spamton leans his head forward, seperates his teeth and licks it off of your thumb. Giving you a jolt which made your arm flinch away.

This earned you an unwanted hurt look from Spamton. Mouth corners slightly drooping. You reassure him that the flinch was only from the shock he gave you, tenderly rubbing his cheek.

It felt like you were being scratched by sandpaper. Coarse and dry. Before any contact with your skin you felt a crackling sensation which made the hairs on your entire forarm stand up. It feels like holding your hand out near static charged plastic or a high voltage plant.

Even though you kind of suspected it already, it still surprised you. Once it made contact after the first shock, you felt weaker ones pulsing in a fast paced tact. Also for some reason it was blue? But at the same time the gradient got darker, going from blue to black further down inside his mouth.

You sit back to the place before infront of Spamtons' chest. Honestly it was getting quite cold now that the mattresses cooled all the way out. Spamton doesn't seem to be heating them up anymore. Not wanting to get a cold you pull your legs up to your chest and snuggle more into one of them. Trying to keep some warmth in by additionally wrapping your arms around yourself.

Is it really that cold to you again?? The always cool temperature may be good for the residents for Cyber City but apparantly not for flesh and blood beings. He's deciding whether about heating his body up again or not, but doing this all the time can even damage his [[Work-Out ready body]]... He's not having any of that. Instead, he has a better idea!! Ah, finally getting to repay your [[Genorisity]]!!!

Some humans bond via body contact don't they? Maybe he can test the waters given the opportunity now. Only if that doesn't overstep any boundaries for you though. Thinking of it he wonders how your past life was like before you fell; but he lets that be out of mutual respect before any old wounds get reopened. He wouldn't want it either.

The synthetic wool material of his plush arms is easy to warm up. Meaning once it's around you then your body heat would be greatly insulated keeping you from being cold! And if he'd somehow get some muscle activity out of you it'd go even faster!! Arms begin to unwrap from his body, drifting to you. He taps your shoulder to get your attention. Turning your head to him you see his hands hover close by your upper arms, making an 'up' motion.

Lifting your arms up and before you know it you're hoisted up by the armpits, engulfed in white and pink fabric. The rest of Spamtons' body gets up, armor plates clattering aigainst each other. Sitting cross-legged, with you being at eye-height with his chest triangle. Holding you diagonally, main body and head leaning forward. Looming down at you he gives you a mischievous smile, making you raise an eyebrow in suspicion.

The thumbs resting on your shoulder move down to your torso. They gently dig into your sides making you squirm and huff out a few quiet laughs. From the looks of it his goal seems to be for you to move around in order to generate warmth faster. Or to cheer you up, maybe both, who knows.

Seeing the fabric getting to a comfortable heat for you he stops. After that he leans his down to snuggle into your chest to check to your heartbeat again. Even if your soulshard isn't emitting the sought after power like it used to, it still brings him an oh so great sense of comfort. Even when the metal parts of his body can't feel much.

You throw an arm around his head and ruffle trough the jagged, synthetic hair. Running strand by strand trough your fingers, evening some knots out. Under your hand you can feel the back of his head heating up, the warmth spreading trough the partly hard plastic skin up to the side his face is pressed against you. Whirring fans causing faint vibrations below your fingertips. After a while his face turns a light shade of red. Steam beginning to form inside his mouth.

Feeling you crane your neck to the side so that you can see his face more clearly. He stares back. Noticing what you might be looking at currently, he swiftly turns to the side making a half hearted grouchy expression. Upon this he hears you stifle back a chuckle and puts a mitten on your face so that you can't see his.

"Woah what was that for big guy?", you jokingly question while disheveling his hair in a kidding manner. Pushing his mitten away.

"NOTHING! [[all, for nothing at all]]!!", earlier formed steam being hissed out inbetween words.

Before you could say some more he shuts you up by hugging your body to his chest. Avoiding the sharp edges of the suit. Long teardrop shaped arms winding you around his body. Albeit with too much strenght considering he hears your spine crack.

"[[Whoopsie-daisy]]!! DIDN'T MEAN IT THAT ROUGH!!", shrieking out in surprise, easing the pressure.

Spamtons' main body falls with you back down onto the mattresses with a dull thud. Still snuggling you into his chest. Now that most noise died out the only thing you can hear are some of his mechanisms relentlessy working.

With his warm arms wrapped around your body, acting as blankets, you begin to doze off. Sensing this he dims his lights yet again. He lifts you up in order to put a mattress between you two so that you don't wake up with cuts everywhere from the sharp edges. Even if he can't sleep he still enjoys beings near you simply resting.

The last thing you register before falling asleep were teeth softly gracing the top of you head.

#spamton x reader #deltarune x reader #spamton #deltarune #deltarune chapter 2 #spamton neo #spamton g spamton #x reader #my stuff #my writing

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skymantle · 2 months ago

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The Mayor Knight Theory

I'm not used to writing long-form posts but I've spent years talking to my friends about this theory that only 2 or 3 other people seem to share so I'm putting it out here, too!

My theory is that the Knight is C. Holiday, the mayor of Hometown and Noelle and Dess' mother.

The Importance of the Holidays

Aside from the joke of Loox' name, the Dreemurrs and Holidays are the only characters so far to have canonical last names. This might not mean much on its own, but Noelle has clearly been set up to be an important character in Deltarune.

Her sister is missing. Her father is sick. She's childhood friends with Kris and has a crush on Susie, and studied the occult with Catti. She's in concept art of the Fun Gang, and along with Susie and Kris, is the only other name that earns the response "YOU ARE ABOUT TO MEET SOMEONE VERY, VERY WONDERFUL" by the opening narrator (metatextually implied to be Gaster himself) if you name yourself after them.

Her mother is mayor, and is planning the upcoming festival. We know next to nothing about her, except that she's cold, strict, and possibly planning to evict Asgore if the note in his room is anything to go by.

You have one month. - C

It's clear that Noelle and her family are important characters. But how is her arc going to continue?

Cyber World

Queen seems to represent Noelle's mother, with the climax of the chapter being Noelle finally standing up to her after being ignored the whole time.

Queen's goal is for Noelle to create another dark fountain within the dark world itself: something she refers to in her fight:

Focusing Into Her Blade, She Will Create A Neo Dark Fountain

During the Spamton Sweepstakes, on the page /chair/, it depicts the chair in town hall with the tab text

But what if it could... ...get darker than dark?

Parallels of Noelle and Chara

Noelle has heavy angel symbolism, from her dress, to the doll she and Dess made for church. She wears a ring of thorns in the Weird Route, and Spamton repeatedly refers to her as [ANGEL].

The two angels of the original Delta Rune legend in Undertale are implied to be the Dreemurr siblings, with Asriel breaking the barrier and Chara (entirely with the assistance from the player) killing a good portion of the underground.

Chara thanks the player, saying,

Together, we eradicated the enemy and became strong.

Throughout the Weird Route, emphasis is placed on Noelle becoming stronger, text affirming "Noelle became stronger." with every fight.

Asgore was brought into a vengeful depression with the death of his children, seeking to both take revenge on humanity and save monsterkind at the same time.

If the Knight's goal is to bring the Roaring, something the Prophecy seems to call the Angel's Heaven, who's to say the Knight isn't also acting out of grief? A world that could protect her remaining daughter?

The Significance of Very, Very

This one is admittedly a bit of a stretch, but it's still interesting (ha) to me.

The exact phrasing of "very" twice calls Gaster to mind, with entry number seventeen/room_gaster saying "VERY, VERY INTERESTING", the mysterious messages on Twitter with a similar speech pattern saying the same thing, and the opening narrator with typer ID* 667 (room_gaster uses 666) calling Kris, Noelle, and Susie "VERY, VERY WONDERFUL"

Otherwise, the exact using of "very, very" is used sparingly in Deltarune, the only examples being Spamton telling Kris how to use the Loaded Disc,

THEN. KRIS. AFTER. THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

Throwing away the Ball of Junk in the light world, which represents Kris' dark world inventory,

You have a very, very bad feeling about throwing it away.

And the mayor's secretary, when asked about her.

She's very, very busy preparing for the festival.

Maybe it ultimately doesn't mean much, but with the importance of the other two examples, I think it's worth considering.

The Future

Chapter 4 is all but confirmed to take place in the Church. Service is the day after Chapter 2, according to Rudy.

Might even be able to go to church tomorrow.

If this is the case, it's likely the story around Dess will be expanded, and with that, the rest of Noelle's family.

Conclusion

At this point in the game, at least to me, this option seems to make the most narrative sense. I know we're only a small bit into the story right now, and the Knight's identity is anyone's guess, but I thought I'd share a candidate that a lot of people seem to be skipping! ^_^

*typer id in undertale + deltarune is a number attached to a collection of soundbytes. if the soundbytes a_1 to a_6 attached to typer id 3, a character speaking dialogue with the typer id 3 would use those soundbytes

#finally crossposting this here too ^^; sorry this is formatted like an essay I wanted it to be as legible as possible #deltarune #utdr #utdr theory #deltarune theory #mayor knight #mayor holiday #oroeginals

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fruitsofhell · 2 months ago

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Why is "Magical Mental Illness" ft. Spamton G. Spamton

It's honestly a shame that my delay in playing Deltarune has led to me not making an essay about Spamton already. There are so many things to be said about that wretched little man on every level from character writing to the narrative and gameplay mechanics. And while I would love to be an expert on most of these in order to give a great opinion, I am only a semi-expert in one thing - and that is Psychology in character writing. Even with finally playing the game, it took a few things beyond pure brainrot to get this essay out of me that are important to keep in mind. One, was a video essay I was watching about this very topic which was not sitting well with me. At times the essayist seemed to deliberately negate the in-universe readings of Spamton in order to blunt force certain labels onto him, and at others they hastily stepped over grounds for interesting psychological insights. This then reminded me of the other important aspect, that being some advice my Abnormal Psychology teacher gave my class on what can only be described as an actual blorbo diagnosis roleplay assignment. She advised us to avoid characters from stories too stepped in fantasy because it can at times be near impossible to seriously put a scientific label on that which was meant to be magical through and through. We're not playing Matpat here.

As an avid lover of both fantasy fiction and psychology, I have run into this paradox plenty, to the point I even once had a name for it - "Magical Mental Illness". It is just a fact of the medium that you will often run into characters who express traits discernable as real psychological dysfunctions, but with entirely magical logic behind them. Spamton, in all his spastic glory is a perfect example of this, to the point it is barely even worth pointing out. But what is worth pointing out is how that line between the clinical and magical does not have to be the end of the conversation. My gripe with that essayist is not that they chose an incorrect, haphazard way to look at Spamton, but that it did not provide the most satisfying synthesis. Especially with a game like Deltarune which subtly revels in blurring the line between the real and imaginary for characters and players alike. It is very concerned with how we relate to fiction through how its fiction relates to its own meta-fiction, creating new layers of meaning to explore. Humans have been relying on stories as windows to our souls as long as we've been writing them, and especially as reference for when our souls become troubled. It's only natural that in that legacy, we begin to read about what it even means to read a story.

Kris and the Player: Hand in Unlovable Hand

Before getting too thick into the weeds, it's important to explain what I mean by this double layer of fiction and how it connects to us. In almost all popular stories you have a perspective character or presence to serve as the audience's middle man, and for Deltarune that character is Kris. But Kris is not as passive as the usual protagonist, as they appear to be acutely aware of and tormented by their role as the player's vessel for peering into their world from outside the game. Somehow, this poor 14 year old within their own world has fallen victim to some sort of possession facilitated by a third party beyond them and the player, and the mystery surrounding this predicament and what meaning the story will find in it is one of the pillars of the narrative intrigue. One that ironically draws us into being active participants in this torment of Kris as we seek to understand how to break it for them.

I was actually watching a different video on Kris' backstory when I stumbled across another magical mental illness blunder in analysis that also inspired this essay. The essayist was explaining a part of Kris' backstory told by an estranged friend, Noelle, who describes how Kris used to have a habit of suddenly freezing and staring off into space for some time before coming to again and quietly reorienting themself. As someone watching the video to comprehend the in-universe and meta-narrative implications of this, I was very surprised when the essayist interjected by declaring this evidence of Kris suffering from absence seizures. Unlike the dramatic spastic seizures that typically come to our mind, absence seizures are as Noelle described, where people lose consciousness and freeze in place for periods of time. This interpretation was not useless. It did hint that Kris may have suffered extreme stress during that time in their life, and more importantly, it was a comfort to the essayist who made the connection from their own experience with the trait, but it does cut off discussion on its own. At best absence seizures may have been an active reference Toby Fox used to write the behavior, especially to make it something that people around Kris could attribute to a non-magical source, but in this world of possessions and mysteries that cannot be an answer in itself. Kris is a magical character in a magical context, and no matter what their behavior looks right now, it is more than likely magical mental illness.

Frustrating as those two essayists' reasoning can be, I can't fault the instinct. Honestly as I was watching that video beforehand I was sussing out in my mind a headcanon diagnosis of Kris that could contain the metaphorical strengths of their character and maybe speak some spiritual truth to that disorder and its humanity. One of my first instincts was Dissociative Identity Disorder, but I cringed away from it aware that it is a negative trope to portray alters as adversarial or invasive. But that trope, or more the language of it without the direct clinical label - magical DID - has never stopped being attractive to me, because even if it doesn't align with the psychological truth of the disorder, it does still with a broader metaphor. Maybe its selfish, but when I read of DID, an inevitable theme or story of it arises in my mind that reminds of my personal struggles with identity. How parts of me sometimes felt foreign and cancerous, and how learning to carve parts of those out of me was a silent triumph I longed to express or see expressed in stories around me. In Kris, I see my own middle school age self who lost the superficial childish dreams which defined her and moved through life in a daze as she tried to understand what truly ran her before finding it and taking back control. That thinking can come off as medieval or psychoanalytical, but as a writer I think it can be important to recognize it as a tool of empathy as well. A way for an unafflicted soul to find a root in themselves that at least emotionally blurs the line between themself and this clinically defined "other".

As we'll see with Spamton, this exercise in relatability between players and Kris goes deeper than just the initial experience of struggle, but into that wish to see oneself reflected elsewhere. Deltarune is not a story that needs to have specific discernible labels to its characters' internal struggles, because its not about the answer as much as it is about carrying a question with oneself into another realm. As I or another player may carry insecurities about control of the self into Deltarune, Kris carries their own into the dubiously metaphorical Dark World. As of right now, it is somewhat hard to say whether the Dark Worlds are as real as the life of Kris and their fellow lightners in the Light World, and I doubt this boundary will cease to be toyed with anytime soon. At the end of the first chapter we can see the hint that the card and board game themed Dark World was related to a closet of alike toys, and the connection was made explicit when Kris is told to bring the characters - the darkners - of that previous session into a new ground established in chapter 2's computer lab. But, at the end of each chapter, just as the player could begin to say to themself it may have all been a dream, Kris tears the player's will out of their body and reminds them how willing this game is to confuse the borders of reality inside fiction and out. Making Deltarune a rather inappropriate choice for attempting to draw clean borders between a clinical and magical character psychology.

Spamton Don't Seem Too Well, Does He?

Exploring the Dark World with a focus on Kris is what finally leads us to the one and only, collective delight of millions, Spamton G. Spamton. He is beloved for being a masterclass in how to lead players into the depths of a stories machinations (1). From pithy lore to fundamental existential questions, Spamton's rich character arc encompasses it all brilliantly, but it's not where to begin, as it is not where Kris nor the player begins. First impressions are critical after all, and Toby Fox has pretty much never let looming implications get in the way of a damn funny character. From his very first textbox after bursting out of a garbage dumpster, Spamton is equal parts incomprehensible and memetic. Players will literally freeze up in utter bafflement as they take whole seconds to comprehend the gaping blank space in his dialogue, with may just giving up on understanding its intention and filling in the gaps either way (2). Uniformly capitalized text, keyboard smash-esque grammatical errors, odd meter, and most famously, randomly bracketed text abound. Yet somehow by the end of the first bossfight, most players walk away thoroughly engaged in trying to translate his quirks into YTP impressions or an otherwise stilted and manic tone. He disappears after this first encounter till the final area of the game, but its nearly impossible for a player to not be thinking about him after.

(1) See a great, and highly inspiring breakdown of his character construction in Designing For's video on him!

(2) For examples of what I mean...

These unique mannerisms of Spamton's are where we find Toby Fox's employment and mastery of one of the most common tropes used to convey insanity and instability in a character. It is a tell-tale example of disorganized speech, specifically through a pattern resembling loose association where the words of the subject are strung along by superficial rather than descriptive content. Usually loose associations sends oblivious sufferers on a chain of associations far beyond what anyone but them can understand, but Spamton's writing seems to marry the idea with concentrated dialogue by way of the system of bracketed text. Spamton will splice tangentially related sales-themed slogans and phrases directly into his sentences before picking back up. Trying to say something along the lines of, "Why be a little whelp who hates its pathetic life," becomes --

> "WHY BE THE [[Little Sponge]] WHO HATES ITS [[$4.99]] LIFE"

-- A real life loose association phrase meanwhile would likely have taken "little sponge" and began starting a string of words related to the kitchen sink. The genius on display here, is that Spamton succeeds in getting his very important deal-making scheme across while also reading as utterly insane to the player. It's a careful balance of chaos and conscientious use of the player's time, which adds a character-rich twist to this common cliche. As players acclimate and move on from the encounter, they will likely begin to put together more and more patterns in Spamton's speech which fuels the intrigue.

By the time players return to Spamton's shop and spend even more time delighted and/or terrified by his erratic personality, it begins to become clear that 'crazy' in its more dismissive reading is not the whole picture for him. Really it started with his referencing of Kris' "[[HeartShapedObject]]" in the first scene, which may have been lost on disoriented players, but not on the character themself who visibly, autonomously flinched away from Spamton at the mention of this device which binds them to us. But these revelations are still for a time buried under another mountain of equally well-written quirks that have players continuing to second guess Spamton's legitimacy. At his shop, away from the eyes of Kris' fellow party members or surrounding darkners who have already declared him crazy, Spamton unveils the roots of his madness to them and the player. His catchphrase "[[BIG SHOT]]" begins to take form as an analogy for some kind of higher state of being related to Kris' world, or possibly even the player's, and it is self-evident why he seemingly can't shut up about it --

"> I'LL GET SO. > I'LL GET SO. > I'LL GET SO. > I'LL GET SO. > I'LL GET SO. > I'LL GET SO. > [[Hyperlink blocked.]]"

-- he sputters like a broken, creepily aware toy. What would in a clinical sense be a delusion is the main drive behind Spamton's entire character, a delusion of control that something or someone above him is pulling the strings of the world, and perhaps one of grandeur at his unflinching certainty in his ability to rise above it.

A new quirk in his disorganized speech also emerges in his shop dialogue which goes from a diet loose association, to abrupt breaks in tone and subject mid sentence. One of the chilling examples is triggered when Spamton tries to discuss some "knight" character - a focal point of fan theorizing - but breaks into frantic apology as soon as the words leave his mouth. Before a player could even suspect if this was a reaction to Kris, he screams --

> TOO MANY EXCESS VACATION DAYS?? TAKE A GOD DAMN VACATION STRAIGHT TO HELL

-- Most definitely alluding to some other confrontation. In another, bringing up your fears (which could be related toward God knows how many aspects of this sidequest) leads Spamton to a sudden departure from his unending award-winning grimace, as he solemnly asks, "… can anyone hear me? Help…", before immediately springing back to life--

"> HUH??? WHAT?? NO, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING JUST NOW!!! > … BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY WERE TALKING TO YOU."

-- Both can be read as a new flavor of break-down in speech content, and the first one especially as some sort of traumatic flashback, but to keep consistent I believe they could be best read as hints of otherwise unreferenced hallucinations. Perhaps trying to speak of something forbidden triggered accusations in his ears causing him to panic and lose his train of thought, or he accidentally parroted a line out loud (echolalia) and tried to deflect as in the last case.

Leaving the shop, as with the first bossfight, is another crucial point where Spamton has sold a second layer of himself to the players as a personality and character^1^. While the full glory of the former won't crystallize until his final confrontation, the latter has been established well enough by now players are choosing to buy tickets to however all this insanity comes together. That insanity is very clinically and unsurprisingly diagnosable as Schizophrenia. Disorganized speech, paranoid delusions, and possible hallucinations are all hallmarks of the disorder and especially its archetype in fiction. His constant smiling affect could even be lumped in with motor dysfunction too if it weren't for the fact that his kin, the adisons display this naturally too. From the backstory the adisons tell of him as an easter egg, a broader picture of Spamton's life as this living corrupted computer ad comes into focus, in a way which could thematically be read as mood disturbances. A life of never-ending career failures perhaps the result of a persistent depression, only to be broken by a psychotic mania in which brute force of personality and ideas - hallucinated from phone static - sent him soaring into the heights of unsustainable success. But that requires more assumptions about him than are necessary, and in the end the core takeaway here is that Spamton presents with highly readable psychotic symptoms.

So there you have it. A clinical, psycho-pathological reading of Spamton G. Spamton from Deltarune. Satisfied? Hopefully not, because I ignored nearly everything about him that is relevant to the story being told. As Spamton becomes more psychotic to the player, he also becomes more comprehensible in parallel. At the same time players can begin to read him as a paranoid schizophrenic, they realize that his paranoia in all its bracketed glory is directly on the money. He recognizes a power dynamic between the worlds of this story that most others are oblivious or apathetic to, and accurately implicates Kris' role within it while soliciting their favor. His associations are less loose and more censorious, and from their syntax-breaking nature, likely not by the volition of him or anything related to his plane of reality. Even his grossly broken text I attributed to hallucinations may be displays of the raw power some of these characters carry in the narrative, and the fear and disorientation they strike in its subjects. While he is doubtlessly still mentally unstable, he is by no means out of touch with reality as the diagnosis of Schizophrenia defines. Spamton is explicitly speaking arcane truths, not the psychological noise that makes up the real disorder of Schizophrenia, no matter how much his mind is struggling to carry that truth's weight.

Garbage Noise

One of the connections that always chilled me in the Spamton story was the notion of the "garbage noise" which the adisons report coming from the speaker of Spamton's phone. I was sure to make this period in Spamton's life where he communicated with a mysterious benefactor over the phone a psychotic one in the mood disorder model for that fact. It is on very purposefully ignorant surface-level evidence that a player could say Spamton's insanity came from nothing, but there is a very fun detail in how they themselves can come to hear this garbage noise. If a player opens Kris' phone and tries to make a call, a shrill mechanical tone tears through the receiver instead of a simple text-description of static. Toby Fox wanted the player to understand what "garbage noise" was, but he also wanted the player to understand exactly where it comes from - any line from the Dark World into Kris' Light World. I can't get enough of obfuscations like this in storycrafting, especially here where it simultaneously combines two ideas at once. We only know of nonsense coming through the phones of the Dark World, but we have heard that it is a divine, higher plane nonsense for Spamton. Whether it once gave way to a clear voice or not does not change its deeper content, and in a way, as much as it may invalidate Spamton as a rational subject, the idea it never sounded any different is revealing and chilling.

Why is it that Spamton presents so bluntly as psychotic when we know he is truthful? Even the source of his madness or genius can't be determined as of now as anything but the darkner equivalent of cosmic background radiation! Well, this is because Toby Fox, deliberately or subconsciously, is drawing on centuries to millennia of fictional ideas to shape this character, not our beloved scientific labels. Without a doubt the most modern framework applicable is that of lovecraftian knowledge and memetic hazards, where the world hides are cosmic facts to be learned that tear the psyche of its learner asunder. I could write an entire other essay on how Spamton is quite possibly the most creative and delightful take on this trope ever created, but sadly, claims like that require substantiation. But, with my pre-existing knowledge of psychology and capacity to wax philosophic, I would like to go beyond that thesis as a historical statement, and more so as a theme or story. The story Deltarune is getting out of this reference to the Schizophrenic archetype, the way I could infer the story of DID out of Kris. What the platonic ideal of this human experience means to Deltarune for Toby Fox to write Spamton as such, and what Deltarune intends it to mean for us.

Throughout human history, we have, frankly speaking, not understood a damn thing about what was happening to or around us. When humans saw the subset of ourselves who ranted and raved about things no one else could see, hear, feel, nor touch, there was a natural mix of apprehension and fascination towards them. We are pattern-seeking animals, nonsensically so even at our healthiest, so of course when our kin passionately speak of patterns found in that which we cannot begin to comprehend, we are drawn to the idea of novel and potentially revolutionary knowledge. But routinely, even in superstitious societies, many have tried to follow the patterns drawn by them only to come to naught. Even those afflicted, once in better health, may reflect and find nothing but psychic noise. But every now and then the pattern leads to something, whether that be a religion, a theory, or just a spark of imagination. Imagination for a world where we create the patterns, and tell the characters within and ourselves which to see and which to ignore. For as harmful as many portrayals of schizophrenic and psychotic behavior based on this fossil of reasoning can be, like those distortions of DID, I can't help but see an attempt for empathy in them. A wish to create a world where the disorientation, isolation, and exhaustion of the psychotic mind we see can find a form of radical acceptance.

The product of this story holds true for Kris and Spamton within the broader narrative of Deltarune, with its open look into how reality becomes fantasy and how that fantasy reinforces reality. Spamton is a character with a shocking amount of impact on Kris, despite them being more aware than any other lightner of the falseness of the Dark World. It is more than just the flinch at Spamton's mention of the player's soul inside them, but their desperate striking of the shell in the basement during the Spamton fight fakeout, and being so emotional after Spamton's defeat that it elicits concern from their party-mates no matter what words the player puts in their mouth. To Kris, Spamton - this ridiculous embodiment of a spam email thrown in the trash - should be no more than an overly interactable and self-aware cartoon. Spamton's words, his actions, and his ambitions have no reason to matter to them, most of the insights he gives are into Kris' own vision. But they nonetheless highlight something in it that shakes Kris to their core, and causes them to look down on this speck of a man from their higher plane, and squirm in empathetic agony. Spamton's struggles speak to their own; speak to freedom, captivity, choice, autonomy. Things that Kris has been struggling with silently since the player opened a save files, and which Kris is for the first time hearing put into words. Passionate, direct yet censored words. Coming from a 3ft tall spam email, but coming from something nonetheless.

Spamton's struggles do not fall on deaf ears for players either, no more than Kris' do, drawing them deeper into every moment of every interaction between these scheming characters. When a man in the real world speaks of being tied to metaphysical strings and reaching a new plane, others in their superegos understand this to be baseless, but still feel something metaphorical to hold on to. All of us feel patterns which cannot be measured as materially as we would wish on a daily basis. Ones we can connect partially to tried and true philosophies of science, even religious doctrines, but which we strain not to turn into something too cosmic, for fear of chaining ourselves to unreason. An abstracted, diffuse lack of control in life has inspired everything about the human condition down to the delusions of that hypothetical man. But when this intangible captivity is molded and sculpted into a lower reality, into a story, it can become more real, it can become comprehensible and acceptable. So when we are insecure about feigning more knowledge than we could ever truly know about our own cosmos, we create miniatures and have them discourse with us about the patterns we have brought into pseudo-existence. And crucially, for all the pity or fear we cast upon those sick with societal and psychological superstition, we imagine a world where people like them can speak a real truth. Where listening to them and indulging in their passion through all the insanity is not just unashamed but objectively correct. Where the story - not the reality - of psychosis makes sense.

Watch Me Fly [[Mama]]!

But at the same time, knowing that we cannot truly grasp past our own cosmos anymore than a fictional seer can be rewarded with realness for his insights, we often can't help but write a bitter ending. Deltraune puts Spamton within a unique position, where by being from a world within a world, there was at least that one plane for him to jump to. There is a version of Deltraune where Spamton became a "[[BIG SHOT]]" and entered the Light World. But that is not the version of Deltarune that Toby Fox wanted to tell, because that would be about a hypothetical less real, less true to existence for the player than a spam email coming to life and begging them for money. If Spamton's schemes had succeeded, it likely would have been too unreal for that anyone to even consider trying to diagnose him with a real world sickness, because his failure is what gives him that tangibility. That fantastical caricature based in a true story of human existence allows us to explore our dreams and to blur the lines between ourselves and those we deem a simultaneously wretched and idealized other.

Like Kris cutting the strings of Spamton's big but not "[[BIG]]" enough body, we cut the strings of these dreams to allow sobriety to wash over us, reminded that no character nor person can move past their dedicated realities. Spamton then resigns himself to being an aspect for Kris to carry throughout their adventure, offering: "Let me become your strength." A silent passion once again, after the bombast of his performance that reminds us that it was a truth at one point, spoken by something, by someone. Spamton's lust for freedom, control, and understanding will stay in Kris' heart throughout their own character arc, and once they have succeeded or been cut down in parallel, we, the players, will have an aspect of them with us as well. A reminder that someone out there, some artist named Toby Fox, recognized a truth that we resonated with for all its potential absurdity, and spoke it long enough for us to dream and wake again. Hopefully with a clearer image of the world around us, in all its utter incomprehensibility and infinite meanings. A few of those meanings we hold in our back pocket just became a bit clearer thereafter.

That is why we have magical mental illness. Some of it is ableism and people wishing to assert an arbitrary boundary between sanity and reason, some of it is patronizing misplaced sympathy for struggling people, some of it is a profound meditation on the power of knowledge. It all gets a bit jumbled together after so many years, so many iterations, so many countless voices contributing to the noise that forms into what we would call a trope. But that history of meaning-making is beautiful and it is present in Deltarune. In amazing crystal clarity before the game is even a third of the way finished, may I add. The piecemeal nature of this story is perfect for letting ideas like those of Spamton get as much room to breathe as they can, as I can only imagine the game has more knockouts like him in store, but it would be a crying shame for them to all drown each other out in one single release window. Perhaps because Deltarune is a story about characters digesting stories, it makes most sense too for there to be delays - no matter how asynchronous - between adventures. If people want an excuse to understand why Kris reopened a Dark Fountain at the end of Chapter 2, just think about how hungry we all are to get another bite out of this game and its resonant characters this June!

#spamton #utdr #deltarune analysis #shut the heck up #media analysis #im tired of being normal its time for another 4000+ word essay on cartoon guys #this one was really really rotisserie-ing in my head since a bit ago #it started as a misunderstanding of someone elses thesis (that video i mention at the start) but became very beautiful to me #i have a lot of opinions on this all if you cant tell #also tumblr deleted all my damn whitespace-indents grrr #now i had to clumsily add hyphens between blockquotes so you can tell im not ending paragraphs #this will be up on my site eveeeeentually #and im gonna bring the kirby essay here too maybe this weekend #tag talking

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pixeljade · 23 days ago

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Got thru Chapter Three and a little of Four of Deltarune today, fucking excellent, gonna list some highlights under the jump. SPOILERS ABOUND, YE BE WARNED

• The Zelda references in all the exploration zones

• Power Croissant!!!

• The fucking. Rouxls Kaard Throuple Subplot is the funniest fucking shit oh my god

• The antics with Susie switching controllers AND THEN YOU GIVE HER A BOW and she gets pissed lmao

• The minigames are SO fun but dear god i suck at rhythm games can we PLEASE have a "sucks at rhythm games" mode for us poor souls who dont mainline rhythm heaven Mister Tobert Fawkes thanky

• The secret Bonus Room scene with Spamton made me actually so sad for the little dude. But Tenna still keeping pipis...tears...

• The fact that everyone was so hyped to see Darkworld Toriel and then she just SLEEPS THROUGH THE WHOLE THING

• the fight against Tenna was really challenging for me. lotta fast-paced gear-switching. Got thru it tho

• And then.

• THE KNIGHT

• ......who im pretty sure is Dess

• I mean look at those three-pronged horns? Thats Holiday family through and through

• UNDYNE IN DARKWORLD???? UNDYNE???? IN DARKWORLD?????

• The secret Mike battle was fun, and so was the scene after it, but fuck my microphone was not quick enough for it to be easy

• Kris and Susie having juice in church by POURING IT DOWN EACHOTHERS THROATS hfjfhfji hdhdhjc

• Awkward Asgore flower scene 😭

• Still no Papyrus yet. YET

• Giving Tenna to Mettaton and knowing how FAMOUSLY they'll get along

• The????? Ralsei's room scene????? made me fucking cry?????

• Susie saying the weirdest shit to Noelle in the church and shes just so shellshocked that Susie's asking her to hang out that shes like "YEAH HAHAHAHA SURE THE JUICE LOOKS LIKE BLOOD. THATS. THAT WHY I LOVE TO DRINK IT. (what???? WHAT???)"

• And then showing up at her place holding the flower and then SUSIE JUST EATS IT????

• Finally getting some glimpse into Dess's personality via his room

• Noelle saying Kris would "Pretend to rip out their heart and attack her" Uhhhh???? UHHHH????

• The phone call with Berdly and SUSIE SHUTTING THAT SHIT DOWN because shes gonna go with Noelle!!!!! 💖💖💖

• The heart-in-the-vents stuff is incredible

• And then scaring both Susie and Noelle? And just. Nudging them together???? 😭😭😭😭

• And SUSIE ACTUALLY ASKING NOELLE OUT TO THE FESTIVAL???

• AND THEN THE INFAMOUS CAROL

• WHOSE VERY SHORT APPEARANCE TELLS YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT MADE DESS THE WAY HE IS

• And then her comment to Kris as they're leaving of "You're always welcome here" ??????????? ?????? WHAT DID SHE MEAN BY THIS

• and then finally

• Using Susie as a fucking chomper to demolish the snack tray

Thats about all my thoughts so far but holy fuckola tomorrows gonna be a doozy

i might not survive it

#deltarune #deltarune spoilers

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pookiebeargallery · 2 months ago

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Hello!

In spite of my unending shyness, I've decided to make a selfship blog! 🥺🩷 Here's some basic things:

🩷 My name is Rocky, my pronouns are he/him, and I'm 26!

🩷 This side blog (will follow from my main @pabbyspace !) will primarily be for reblogging art of characters I feel strongly for, and, on occasion, posting selfship art I've drawn and/or received from others. I will also be reblogging others' selfship/yume art from time to time! :DD

🩷 I am a "sharing" selfshipper! Please do not be afraid to interact or chat with me, especially if we share F/Os! :0) 💕 (I realize I'll have a lot listed here but most of them are just for reference to talk with others about, rather than ones I'll be drawing super often! Please don't let the list intimidate you LOL)

That being said, here are a few things of importance to note:

‼️ This blog will be primarily SFW. HOWEVER! Any... ahem... occasional *UN*-SFW content (jokes, art, or otherwise) will be tagged and/or under a read more. Please proceed with caution and heed tag warnings as necessary!

‼️ Please heed normal DNI criteria (z00s, t3rfs, pr0sh1p, etc.)

‼️ Please do not interact if you engage in selfship/yume discourse. I would like to keep this blog a positive space and free of discourse or "drama". I take selfshipping/yumeshipping seriously but not TOO seriously to a detriment, y'know?

‼️ Please do not interact if you engage in selfshipping/yumeshipping with a "competitive" mindset. (i.e. "[character] ONLY loves me", etc.) This line of thinking makes me personally quite uncomfortable!

‼️ Overall rule is be chill and nice! Selfship is fun and a source of comfort for me (as I'm sure it is for you too!), so let's keep it that way! 💕

This will be updated later with anything else I can think of, but yeah! Enjoy your stay! Under the cut will be a list of my major F/Os, both past and present!

The Ultimate F/Os:

These F/Os are sort of "eternal" for me, and I will always have a soft spot for them in my heart, even when I'm not always talking about them. They were/are deeply personal to me for different reasons!

🩷 Goofy (Disney) (Nothing beats Goofy, unfortunately! He is my longest-running F/O and I have the strongest affection towards him of any character, ever.

🩷 Damien (My OC, please ask me about him!)

🩷 Grigory Habit (Smile For Me) (Not a canonical character! He is a beta design of Dr. Boris Habit from the Smile For Me art book turned into Habit's uncle by some dedicated fans. I grew so attached to the concept that I commissioned my own puppet of him by The Circus Cottage, the same puppet builders who made the Dr. Habit/Li'l Habby/Pabit puppet for the game)!

🩷 Spring Bonnie/Dave Miller/William Afton/Springtrap/(and, by extension, Scraptrap) (Five Nights at Freddy's)

Current Main F/Os:

These are my specimens that I am currently inspecting under a microscope....

🩷 "Bord"/"Ciphord"/Bill-Possessed Stanford Pines (Gravity Falls) (This is a big one for me! I feel the need to separate him from Bill and Ford because he is a totally different entity to me LMAO)

🩷 Bill Cipher (Gravity Falls) (This also includes my ""human"" version of Bill Cipher, who is a ventriloquist dummy/puppet. U//v//U)

🩷 Stanley Pines (Gravity Falls)

Secondary F/Os:

Not as strong as the Ultimates/Mains, but I am thinking about them too!

🩷 Ford Pines (Gravity Falls)

🩷 Ghostface (Scream films) (Not necessarily the identity of anyone underneath the costume, I just think the costume and voice are hot 🙈)

🩷 Parappa (Parappa the Rapper)

🩷 Lammy Lamb (Um Jammer Lammy/Parappa the Rapper)

🩷 Spongebob Squarepants

🩷 Horace Horsecollar (Disney)

🩷 Wallace (Wallace and Gromit)

My Past Sweeties:

I still love these guys! They just aren't on my mind as much these days.

🩷 Ken (Barbie Movie)

🩷 The Spot/Jonathan Ohnn (Spider-verse)

🩷 Ryuk (Death Note)

🩷 Rarold (Be Kind, My Neighbor)

🩷 Strong Bad (Homestar Runner)

🩷 Homestar Runner

🩷 Spamton (Deltarune)

🩷 Moon (FNAF: Security Breach) (Sun too, but... not nearly as strongly LOL)

🩷 Chucky (Child's Play series)

🩷 Brahms Heelshire (The Boy)

🩷 Satan (Forbidden Zone)

🩷 Freaky Fred (Courage the Cowardly Dog)

🩷 Harvey (Animal Crossing)

🩷 Wilbur (Animal Crossing)

🩷 Dr. Teeth (The Muppets)

🩷 Johnny Fiama (The Muppets)

🩷 Constantine (The Muppets)

🩷 Muppet Newsman (The Muppets)

🩷 Zenigata (Lupin the Third)

🩷 Sniper (Team Fortress 2)

🩷 Merasmus (Team Fortress 2)

F/Os from my Youth:

These F/Os are from my much much MUCH younger days! Like, adolescence younger days. Personally I just want to include them here for fun to reminisce on them. These aren't all of them LOL but these were some significant and/or silly ones!

🩷 Wheatley (Portal 2)

🩷 Professor Layton (Professor Layton game series)

🩷 Dororo (Keroro Gunso)

🩷 Meta Knight (Kirby game series)

🩷 Luigi/Mr. L (Super Mario game series)

🩷 Dr. Doofenshmirtz (Phineas and Ferb)

🩷 Disco Bear (Happy Tree Friends)

🩷 Jenny Wakeman/XJ9 (My Life As A Teenage Robot) (I am pretty sure she was my "I think I might like girls" awakening as a child even though I didn't realize it at the time LOL)

🩷 Gumby (Gumby series)

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undertalebabbleblog · 6 months ago

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UTDR Holiday Newsletter Musings

Heya, Pup here, and I'm back again to talk about how Toby Fox has once more driven me insane.

Usually the newsletters have a black background and white text, but the background is white this time! Thematically appropriate, I suppose.

*glances outside at the warm summer morning*

Or, well, it's thematically appropriate if you don't live in the southern hemisphere lol.

Toby has a Bluesky account now, apparently.

...Yep, that belongs to Toby, alright.

And he even made an archive of the roast chicken posts "in case Blueski flies away". Excellent, those are exceedingly important, we wouldn't want them to be lost.

(Skipping over the stuff about the GameMaker updates and bugs because while it's interesting it's not what I'm here to talk about.)

*(...) *(...Pup slowly puts down the microwave they were holding and steps away.) *(All the settings on the microwave say 'spaghetti' anyway. It's unsure if that would work on frozen dogs.)

But in all seriousness, the reviews Toby shared seem pretty solid, and we are definitely, 100000000000% getting chapters 3 and 4 in 2025. I am incredibly excited and can't wait to see what the new chapters have in store.

(I wonder when they'll come out...? Place your bets, everyone! My money's on Undertale's 10th anniversary, since Toby has a habit of releasing and announcing important stuff on or around the anniversaries.)

We also have some text from chapter 4 that has been translated into Japanese. I cannot read Japanese, so unfortunately I don't have anything to say on that part, but I do have some things to say about some of the bits I can read!

"Inferno,&Inferno!" We don't have any context on who's saying this or what it might be about. My first thought is Dante's Inferno, given how much religious symbolism is in these games, but I'm probably wrong lol.

Lancer: "Susie, can you enrich my enclosure?" Susie: "Uhh, I can punch a hole in drywall and hide toys inside." Lancer: "Thank you. Someday, I will do the same for you..." This COULD just be about Lancer's room. Or it could imply that Lancer gets trapped somehow? Idk.

"To by, or not to by?" I don't have much to say here. But it's a Shakespeare reference, so I'm legally obligated to point that out.

Berdly: "Listen. It disgusts me to say this, but... as an ACT. OF. CHARITY. I will let you... Be the breeze under my wings. You... Me. Festival." My guess is that he's saying this to Susie. If so, Noelle is going to FLIP and I can't wait to see it lol. I'm very curious about this festival, too... I feel like something big's going to happen.

...wait.

WAIT.

Jevil's fight was in a carousel. Spamton's was on a rollercoaster.

...am I overthinking this, or are the secret bosses somehow foreshadowing the festival???????

Elnina: "Did it hurt when you fell? Your tag says you're... um, the moon." If I remember correctly, Elnina is one of the weather forecast themed enemies. Since this is chapter 4 dialogue, my guess is that this text is from Castle Town after you recruit them.

Chapter 5 is in development! Yay!

I was going to make a post about some of the new merch before the newsletter came out. Now I guess I'll just include my thoughts on it in this post.

SO. We have a Kris shirt.

Following the trend of the Frisk merch, Kris isn't named. All Frisk's merch refers to them as 'the human', and now Kris' shirt is the 'Important Person's Shirt'.

Here's all the text I've found describing it, from both the newsletter and Fangamer.

Listen. I am going insane over this. I have far too many thoughts and I don't know how to put any of them into words. BUT I'M GONNA TRY.

Okay. So.

Firstly, the love thing.

We already know that LOVE = Level of ViolencE. But while that adds an interesting layer, it's not primarily what I'm going to be discussing here.

Kris and the player have a connection, obviously. Their love will become yours - the love they receive from their mum, their dad, their friends, isn't meant for us. Yet it feels like it's directed at us, because we are Kris. Your love will become theirs - we decide their actions. If we express love for another character, we're expressing it through them, which means that the other characters are seeing it as their love instead. Us and Kris are separate entities, and yet we have an undeniable connection that makes us difficult to separate.

Also, I'm not entirely sure how this relates, but my first thought when I read this was about the default options for the vessel. The game records your choices in the vessel creation sequence. However, if you start a chapter 2 save file without continuing from chapter 1, the choices are automatically set to the first option of each question, except for the gift, which defaults to Mind. It also has default options for all the choices in the game, which all seem to follow what we know of Kris' characterisation. Essentially, if we haven't played chapter 1, Kris seems to play through it for us. In the vessel creation sequence, the question 'HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT YOUR CREATION? (IT WILL NOT HEAR.)' has 'LOVE' as the first option. I don't know how this might relate and it might be entirely unrelated but in my head I feel like some dots have been connected and it's driving me crazy. TOBY FOX YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE DEATH OF ME.

(Please picture me with one of those conspiracy theory boards with the red string and pictures and scribbled notes. That's the most accurate depiction of me right now.)

The mask thing seems important too, but I can't think of what it might be referring to. Maybe something to do with how the actions you choose for Kris aren't how they're really feeling?

There's also a Seam plush, which I wasn't originally going to talk about, but then the newsletter happened.

Firstly, look at it. Look at this battered old wizard cat. I want it.

Secondly, we get a sort-of-canon Seam design! So that's cool.

...dusty magic. Broken dreams. No tail, torn off by cruel and loving hands. The tail in your mind should be stronger than anything I show you.

THERE IS SOMETHING HERE RELATED TO THE DARK WORLDS AND DREAMS AND IMAGINATION AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT IT BUT IT'S THERE.

If they keep releasing merch, my entire house is going to be UTDR themed. I can feel my wallet getting lighter and lighter each time they release something new, and I haven't even bought any merch yet.

And finally, if you click on this antlered snowman at the bottom...

You get a message...

DESS LORE DESS LORE DESS LORE

She called Noelle 'Elly' I'm gonna cry -

More angel Noelle... and "I wish it could snow whenever I wanted"... kind of ominous given the Snowgrave route and the whole Angel's Heaven thing.

AAAA I'M SO EXCITED TO SEE WHERE THIS GOES IN THE GAME

I actually missed the snowman link at first, so obviously I'm going to be clicking everything in all future newsletters just to be sure lol.

Uhhhh... yeah. That's all.

See you next time, and happy holidays!

#undertale #deltarune #undertale newsletter #undertale / deltarune newsletter #utdr #utdr newsletter #babble #rant #ramble #rose's rambles

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robocatfan · 1 day ago

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(Just to clarify I see Tenna as bigender and using both he/him and she/her. Also credit to @quietlywatchingwritingreading for the goated concept , I would have never thought of that by myself)

This all started simply because I originally thought Tenna was going to be a woman character due to how i found this name to be feminine sounding (because in spanish feminine aligned names end with “a”, and also because we also use feminine terms to refer to both TV’s and and antennas)

(and also i didn’t exactly follow the game’s advertising so if there was ever anything that revealed his pronouns before she appeared in the actual game, i missed it)

So while i wasn’t disappointed when Chapter 3 came out and revealed that the Tv was in fact a guy, I was a but confused.

But then i realized “wait a minute… who the hell is stopping me from headcannoning Tenna as also using she/her pronouns >:D?”

And so i told my friends this and they found it cool. However while talking about it one of them had such a big brain idea (that another friend elaborated upon when i shared it to them) around that that i Just HAD to share it here

Essentially yes, Tenna could use she/her pronouns and not fully identify as male as well… but then maybe she pretends to identify only as such so others can respect her as a host (after all in the prior decades and even now many fem! leaning people in such roles were rare and even rarer was the chance they’ll be accepted) and a fear of losing such admiration and love if this was found out, which would lead to them hating her or worse, outright abandoning her.

And she’s absolutely terrified of this happening or others finding this out after they’d grown used to seeing her just as a man, to the point that she didn’t even tell Spamton about it despite their prior closeness.

So she keeps the facade up even if she isn’t wholly comfortable about it, because if everyone else is loving it and keeping it up won’t lead to them throwing her away and losing the love she oh so desperately wants, then why bother being true to herself and embrace her feminine leanings? Why bother attempting to clarify that, sometimes, being referred only as Mr Tenna doesn’t always feel quite right…?

#deltarune #Tenna #mr tenna #headcanon #tenna deltarune #ant tenna #ma stuff #oh and also the other reason she doesn’t tell Spamton is due to him being #…. well #Spamton :V

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theroaringknight · 25 days ago

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Hey, guys I just wanted to ramble about one my Deltarune “theories” before the next two chapters come out tomorrow.

So we know that there is some sort of “knight” that’s creating the fountains, and we know that Kris very clearly resembles a knight. So, I don’t know how much of this rambling is well-accepted or already theorized but I’m just spilling my thoughts haha.

But I feel like it’s a well accepted concept that Kris is the “white knight” and the roaring knight is the “black knight.” In story though it would probably be refered to as the “lighter knight” and the “darkener knight.” We also have a darkener King and Queen. And we even have a lighter king and queen (if Toriel and Asgore hypothetically take those roles). This suggests Deltarune is some sort of big ‘ol chess game. I would assume between the player and Gaster. Though, the level of “importance” to the pieces seem to be different then in a IRL chess game.

Additionally, I feel like this concept could even be seen in Noelle, Ralsei, Susie, and Berdly.

I feel like Ralsei and Noelle could easily symbolize “rooks.” As Ralsei is quite literally a prince, and design speaking, Noelle’s antlers kind of look like a crown? Also, they both share the same role in the party.

And Susie and Berdly both have an axe as their main weapon, so I wonder if that symbolizes them being the same piece, which with process of elimination would make them both bishops.

Obviously Susie, Berdly, and Noelle would be automatically labeled as “lighter pieces” and hypothetically Ralsei would be a “darkener rook” but that doesn’t make the most sense considering he is directly working with the player (hypothetically)? So he might just be defined as a lightner rook even if he’s not actually a lightner (I think this could apply to darkner pieces as well)?

Here’s the thing, if Susie and Berdly are both characterized as “lightner bishops” that sets cards on the table that there’s two lightner knights, two darkner knights, two darkner bishops and so on.

I feel like some more darkner pieces could be the characters like Spamton and Jevil, I don’t necessarily know what the frick they could be but they clearly have something to do with Gaster.

Basically what I’m saying is… if Deltarune is one giant chess game then there should be two other knights that we don’t know about. And the two main theories I’ve seen about who the roaring knight is Dess and Papyrus, and just thinking about this whole thingy, what if it could be them both? And it would be funny if they both thought they were the only darker knight haha. I don’t really know who could possibly be the other lightner knight. My first thought would be Undyne, but I only say that cause she’s quite literally a knight in Undertale. Otherwise, I don’t think that makes much sense. I don’t think it would be anyone from the classroom. I mean, I guess there’s also the fact that we created a vessel at the beginning of the game, so it could have something to do with that? Or maybe the Angel? Or maybe this is a dead end haha. It could just be very slightly based off chess and I’m slamming myself into a wall.

I don’t know if I’ll do anything with these ideas on this blog, but we will see! This story concept right now is really just a concept haha. I like to prioritize my personal stuff, but I’m in a bit of a UTDR mood rn cause of Deltarune hype!

But yeah, that’s it! Just a bunch of rambling!

#deltarune tomorrow #utdr #papyrus #Dess #deltarune #knight papyrus #deltarune theory #deltarune rambling

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ammi-delta-document · 23 days ago

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Spoilers for Chapter 3

I FUCKING LOVE CHAPTER 3

Honestly No Wonder Spamton doesn't like Tenna, he's the better Version of him lol (sorry, I'm being mean)

But NOBODY could've predicted THIS Design, it's fucking glorious.

Imagine you're a 2D Pixel Sprite and suddenly you Encounter a 3D Model that does goofy dances.

Also I've seen some people predict that he's a snail, Turns out he's an ant.

I definetly get the "I Miss Tenna Sentiment now"

Some Tenna Details I can't mention later because of flow reasons:

HE IS THE GUY THAT'LL DETHRONE SPAMTON'S SEXIMAN STATUS (at least for one short while)IF NOT I WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED (but then there's Mike, and Chapter 3&4 Secret Boss soo) maybe you noticed, I do Not know who they are yet

Tenna Stile MTT's Showhost sute, I hope He Steals His dress as well bc, then mettaton would have nothing Left

THE FUCKING INTRODUCTION, what the hell was that, Spamton sweepstakes x 10 (na)

Makes me hopeful for an Epic animated sequence with the Gang near the end of the Game

THE FUCKING VOICEACTING WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!

EGG Mentioned in the Spot! Gaster egg or Pipis, Polly the latter, prolly both

3D TV head lipsinked

3D RALSEI WHAT THE HELL WAS FTHAT?!

2D and 3D Animation

HEY EVERY! Playing in His Intro

Love His Fang Sprites, Love all of His Sprites honestly

More charming Version of Spamton

The colourful, more excaggerated words He sprinkles into His dialogue

Spamton even wore a similar suit in His glory Days

I Wonder in general how the implemented Tenna

We took a while to Figuren Out that you can Turn a TV Off

I wonder If "TV time" was Like a "thing" when Kris was Younger, like e.g Dess and Noelle would come over for "TV Time"

His First Stage reminded US of Mario

You can really hear the Toby in His voice (I think it's him again otherwise this would be really embarrassinh)

RASLEI PLUSH, SOAK IT IN WATER AND THROW IT AT THE WALL, RALSEI DID NOT CONSENT TO THIS

It's also so funny, because I Imagine Kris being like "I regret making this fountain" since Tenna is kinda Dumping all their emotional issues, which are his emotional issues as well, Out of context in Front of their friends

I really Love that he is though, because KRIS LORE BABY!!! (There is SO MUCH Kris Lore Here, I can't even tackle it all)

Which is also super interesting, since, how much does Tenna actually get right?

Appearantly Kris's favourite food are pies, not Chocolate, which does make sense, and my sister even wondered why I Chose Chocolate lol.

Also ASRIEL'S FAVORITE SMASHING FIGHTER IS NOT YOSHI! I don't get Tenna's reference though

Honerable Kris Lore mentions:

They appearantly often snuck behind the parental Lock a lot

Asgore and them often watched the Cowboy Show together while playing Hoppe Hoppe Reiter and this is fucking Precious

Have to listen to my recordings again to continue sorry

Tenna's rambling also kinda got me omori vibes, because of the "remeniscing about the good old Days watching TV" schtick. I think Toby hinted at the Games being pretty similar once...

Another Tenna thing: He's being super Personal with Kris, but Spamton also knows him, soo, what are the implications there?

Also kinda wanna say the one uncensored Ralsei Version of the lightners live Song about the Future losing it's rights Hit a bit too Close to Home right now, oh boy... The censoring of the Bad stuff and replacing it with Happy stuff is such a trademark Ralsei Thing to do though. And appearantly the Song might be where Dess and Noelle got their Leitmotiv from, Scratch that where Wayne Douglas GASTER got His Leitmotiv from

Anyway Back to Focus:

Kris knight. The "Knight" didn't even get a mention as far as I am, but it's gonna be real "funny" if they reveal that Kris did it because Ralsei will be Mad, and Susie will be Mad because she doesn't like it when people keep things from her But the beginning of the new Darkworld tells me 2 things: Kris might've at least created the original Darkworld somehow because the beginnings are so similar, or this is their First darkworld, and they took some inspiration. Or this is just how dust darkners Look idk Everyone in Kris's Home also of course knows their Name, but maybe that's also a sign that they're Not the knight?

Now I also wonder If Lanino and Elnina are actually also objects or If they're a TV Programm.

I also sadly didn't get enough Shadowmen to recruit :( I wonder what they're in the light world

SPEAKING OF LIGHT WORLD:

Darkners Lore got dropped on us fast huh? They even said the Line "get darker than dark" It's still a bit confusing, since I think there still definetly IS some sort of real mystical element involved, plus Ralsei's self esteem is basically non existant, of course he's convinced he's not real, plus the whole theory of Kooki that the objects are Just the Ankers for the darkners ect. So I'm not too Sure about how much truth His words actually hold when he says that darkners are Just objects. Of course the source has a bit more truth than theories, and Toby is uncomfortabke making lightner plushies, but darkners plushies are ok, but unfortunately I am biased towards Ralsei deserving to have self esteem, and fortunately I have 1&1/2 chapters ahead of me, so still plenty of room to debunk Ralsei And Support Susie's point. My sister also said that she felt the loredumo felt a little Out of nowhere, and I also kinda thought that's more something for later in the Chapter, but uhh I get why it's being done early I guess.

I am also not surprised by Susie's reaction to everything, but also kinda, since I saw more theorys about that being some sort of big breaking Up Point for everyone. But we still have the "keeping stuff from you" Angle for that's huh?

Sidepoint, but we saw Susie's room in the loredrop?!

Ok, continuinh with Darkners , my favourite Darkners: Rouxls and Lancer

Jk, maybe you know my favourite Darkners, Just wanted to say one of my theories got debunked, because Lancer might still Turn to Stone and he's okay with it, and Rouxls is fucking fantastic. To Rival the fun Gang throuple (fun Gang ship teaser) He Made His own, sadly the Rainbow was unpure, but I guess that's not because they were a throuple, but because it was Rouxls they were throupling witheth. And He hath so many funny Moments this Chapter, I loveth it

Anyway Back to my actual favourite Darkner: Purirun's weed friend (Ralsei).

He went from being ignored by Queen to the Main Event (at least for me)

He was so adorable through everything, and one of His stats also got replaced by guts. Interesting.

This Chapter we're really able to kinda... challange His self image a bit?

You can choose to Switch to Susie multiple Times, but what I did instead was Talk to Ralsei and pep Talk him a bit. I know it's probably Not what Kris might've wanted (I'm sorry Kris), but I needed that for him ok? I don't know If I want him to know that I was the one who told him that. Maybe I do.

Also Ralsei is actually talking about something seemingly important with Kris when we're supposed to not be looking.

Two more things, I Had the Option to tell Ralsei that He "Looks familiar" but didn't, I wonder what he'll say then, and also I wonder what Susie was doing. I am really intrigues by the thematical implications of choosing Ralsei over Susie, and kinda also robbing Kris of little Moments of freedom, while giving Ralsei individuality in Turn. Heck, I wonder If Kris would've told Ralsei that they opened the fountain, If this was their First time and Ralsei didn't know about it of course since He describes the Dark fountain AS a dark presence again, but hey it's the Dark world everything is dark

Susie's Controller Switch Up was also great. Ralsei got to be the one that makes the decisions, and while you could Interpret that in a more sinister way, in a Sense that it was always kinda him in Control, and about the player n stuff, you can also See that as him actually doing stuff for himself for once, as well as Kris playing as Susie, basically the same thing, and Susie being more Kind and gentler as Ralsei. Susie even got to play as Kris, hey! But interestingly enough, it was while Tenna wasn't watching that all of that stuff happened. Another sidenote but I adore their little Interactions while playing, and that it really felt like they were playing in their own (I also wonder If Kris was Like angsty the whole time over playing a Videogame as someone who's played AS a Videogame lol, sorry Kris)

Another thing, about Ralsei and Spamton, and darkners. I wonder If He doesn't want His Friends to worry about darkners because He has auch a "self hating" View of them? He describes himself as not being enough to fill the "Hearts" of Susie and Kris with His friendship because he's "not real" but He makes the mistake that He compaires the Heart to the stomach. Susie isn't Flowey, Ralsei isn't an unaware Videogame character to her. His dialogue won't loop, she won't get bored of him. Her influence on him is making him such a rounded character already, the Love He can give her and Kris is just as real as a lightner's love and I hope so, so much that the culmination of His Arc will BE him realizing that.

I also really wonder now how Ralsei viewed himself before Krusie came crusin around (I'm using shipnames now, doesn't mean I mean the ship, OK? Ok.) did He feel anything but told himself that it didn't Matter because he's a Darkner? This shouldn't be real to him? Did He internalized this Sentiment so much that He even stopped really Feeling for a while?

I kinda lost my Point earlyer but this is what I meant with "self hating". Darkner= not real= not Matter so why worry about him

It's genuenly so sad seeing Ralsei actually start Feeling regret and even guild over being Susie's and Kris's Friends now, how He thinks he'll never be enough to fulfil His responsibility, and that He so desperately wants to Join them but can't, while Susie is Desperate for him to, maybe even Just Tell her that he's real, for him to be wrong.

It's also so bittersweet how He asks Kris to buy Susie an icecream and then Tell her it's from him. I of course want to Grant His wish (sorry again Kris) but I hope more that he'll get to buy her the icecream himself somehow. (I just don't Hope that that means we'll have to Control Ralsei now, since I don't want to Take away this skrunkly's freedom too)

Another Darkworld Ralsei related Thing, Susie is a character that Changes the people around her, but, Ralsei's explanations and His Feelings about being a friend at His 1 on 1 time with Kris, He sounded as If the Game wanted to imply he's right. I wonder how that'll be resolved or dealt with...

Last Ralsei theory and the I'll Talk about Him, Susie, and Kris kinda being Precious Angels, ok.

Ralsei specifically tells you that He may Look like a Monster but he's a darkner. Not any specific Monster (though why would He mention Asriel tbh) just a Monster. For me that debunks the Asriel=Ralsei stuff (never believed it anyway, and If anything, the ideal self theory is just far more likely) (also No Joke I thought Ralsei was gonna reveal what objects He was 2 different Times, once with the icecream, and once at the Darkner Lore drop). At the very least He doesn't See himself similar to Kris's Family but, I didn't Pick the "Look familiar" option and we have yet to save Toriel, who knows what she's thinking about this.

Okay now Back to the blorbos:

Drama romance bloodshed between Ralsusie at the beginning, the romance Part is the throuple teaser btw

Ralsei's new eyebag Sprites and Susie's desperation Sprites make my Heart wrench

Ralsusie "swearing" at Tenna in sync was super funny, especially because it was Ralsei doing it

Ralsei Plushie Real and it will not hust you

We had to make a Screenshot everytime the Gang was being cute

Ralsei has friends, but... WHY DON'T YOU JUST RIP MY HEART OUT WHILE YOU'RE AT IT?!

Ralsei messes with His ears when he's nervous

KRS, ASS and Ralsei did a little Princess bow when he introduced himself

Ralsei is the three time accidental fluffiest pet Contest Winner

Kris wasn't blue enough for the Smurfs

Maybe the real Chapter 3 was the Love we learned to each other along the way

We sucked so much at the quizzes lol

The caxtus upstairs loves Kris appearantly

Ralsei is a Surfboard, and a block

Ralsusie's dynamic while gaming

Fun Gang Chef Outfits and poses

Fun Gang Lightners live Outfits and poses

Ralsei's censoring, (I can't believe him and Kris Made them lose Points )

The little explanation graphics for the Chef Game

How we also really sucked at that

Susie's aprin says "Kiss me my ass"

"See you next Episode everyone"

Lancer squashing through the door

Forgot to mention but it's interesting that Susie is doing so much stuff for herself this Chapter

Sticking Money/ Ralsei in the vending machine

Almost sticking Kris in the gacha machiene

Flirting with the water thingy

Everyone choosing the priceless Option for Ralsei and us being wrong (He is priceless to me)

Walsei being so cute while watching us pway Mawio Cawd, and US failing because, yes Susie, we can't See the Screen

we can Tell Susie that were always closing our eyes and think about her, she find's it weird

Ralsusie's Moss "that's what it means"

Photos of the Gang

Making Susie wear the ribbon while she was trying to Diss ralsei

Great job "Susie"

Ralsei being so real for Not knowing how the Photo mechanic works

The reason Susie wants to Switch Back (not Sure If I can say that Here)

Fun throuple (I am sorry I am a dirty shipper, their dynamics are Just too endeering)

Can we "soft Rock"

I Had the Ralsei censoring Point already, right?

Ralsei feels Like a real Rocker

In the end is all that gameshow stuff a metaphore for not being able to Play forever even If it's fun, aka not being able to stay in the Darkworld forever?

Okay, into other little stuff and then I'll Stop rambling:

Towiel has a wittle crown. Some speculated she might be a witch, but she's a Queen again. I find it interesting, that she's captured for the Most Part. I hope we'll See her interact with Kris n Ralsei for character development

Lanino goes by they/them appearantly? Maybe to parallel Kris, since the whole Rouxls throuple thingy was kinda to Combat the Fun Gang throuple. I was surprised that Elnina goes by She/her, but I think Lanino's pronouns are also because Girl sun and Boy Moon, while Clouds are usually girls... In the languages I speak were Articles are gendered, and I know that's probably Not the Case in Spanisch, but I take no criticism, the sun is a girl!

Also Rouxls is Not only pan, but also Poly, good for him

Very important! While we looked for the Egg on the raft ride we found an "unfinished room", that looked like the glaciour thingy. We even found another, and Susie kept pressing, but we never managed to get in.

Wonder If Asgore will appear in this Chapter as well

I wonder If Ralsei will have a Noelle Standing Up to Queen Moment, where he'll Stand Up for His realness and individuality, and I wonder to whom (Gaster, Kris, us?) (probably Not Kris but I can still See him and Kris having an Argument If some Sports)

I wonder If Ralsei will end Up going to the lightworkd someday (I think I said that already, but it's late)

Interesting new currency in points

Friend is the fucking amalgamate and I do not want to know the unhinged theory fandom's reaction

Kris is familiär with the coldnessbof the fridge, perhaps because the often sneak midnight Snacks. Ominous that Tere was a Christmas tree though.

The Layout of the Darkworld makes Sense, as weird as taht Sounds Out of context.

I find it funny how Ralsei was Like "there is the Dark fountain, let's Close it!' because, you know, and then they Just get captured

Mike mentioned a lot, looking Forward to Meeting him

Woody theory perhaps real?

Possible stealth section Soon, just escaped the gacha Balls, looking Forward to it.

In general I'm looking forward to If there's abpossible fountain reveal soon, as well as more character interaction/development.

I think that's it for today

#ammi rambling #Ammi thoughts during chapter 3 #Deltarune Chapter 3 #Deltarune #Deltarune spoilers #Deltarune Chapter 3 spoilers

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