#somehow book Bond manages to be. Even More So. with his Ambiguous Disorders
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@cicerfics I actually agree with you lmao, he's suuuch an interesting study in contradictions cuz I think he both would & wouldn't be highly brainwashable.
Cuz I do think Casino Royale (book) catches him in a weak moment, and Mathis allegorical Voice of Reason sets him back on The Correct Path. And I think in the aftermath of it he's like. hardened his heart to it all and committed himself to his mission/to a new mission (hunting down SMERSH). So having had some of his cleavage points tested (rock analogy) and some of the weaker flakes flaked off. He's more durable than ever and less likely to break off along them...? tbh I'd probably have to read more of the books to see how it actually plays out lol but. theoretically!
I also have some other post about him being a Prince Rupert's drop-ass man lmao, hit him head on and he'll never break. manage to get past his armor to his soft underside/tail tho? instant implosion turned explosion.
I do kind of feel like movie (Craig) Bond is perhaps. less brainwashable this way? Like it'd have to be a brute-force brainwashing vs like a subtler cult indoctrination "before he knew it, he was someone else" route. Cuz even his thing w Vesper Makes More Sense in the movie, it's like seeded before all that at least. Whereas in the book it's like. lowkey kinda like ?? okay we're doing this now ig? cant latch onto le chiffre cuz he's dead so latches onto Vesper-lookin-ass man, okay... (also comphet. and him going "and :) my balls still work!! :)") But yeah, I think for movie Bond it'd be more likely to manifest in more like PTSD/trauma coping responses than like, true longterm ideological changes.
But for my pet premise, it's more Man w the Golden Gun style so like, get any man for long enough and amnesiac'ed enough and really I think you can make him swear to anything. There WOULD still be some fictional science stuff that you just gotta roll with involved though lol,. but like. I do think if they can get him like sleep deprived for long enough, for example, and enough time to train certain responses & asociations in him, they can at least mindfuck him temporarily. Which is kinda all they need for a short term op - they just need to wind him up long enough to point him at M, they don't need him as a longterm asset.
#coerce and persuade#it's sooo interesting to me that while yes Craig!Bond is my beautiful failwife princess with All of the Disambiguous Issues#somehow book Bond manages to be. Even More So. with his Ambiguous Disorders#Craig Bond is like damn u fucked up. but at least we have an idea of what's up with you#Book Bond tho? is like. damn what the FUCK is going on over there. actually we have nowhere NEAR enough time to unpack all of that...#I think we could still get our fingernails under the cracks in Craig!Bond's armor tho it would sort of like. require a much longer timeline#and also for him to be in a situation where he Has to Go Along With xyz#this is kind of where I think longterm undercover would maybe do that. cuz I feel like for Craig!Bond. a longterm undercover where he#is forced to Enter Into and like Embody a different persona... very much has the danger of taking over him whole#esp if he has to insert so many parts of himself into a cover- cuz that's how he operates - and like. along the way. things can (and DO)#get confused. like one of the undercover ppl was saying how he considers one of the dudes his friends and still does#and he'd talk to him - the guy might punch him tho or sth - but like he still considers him a friend or w.e#like. if we get him in a longterm undercover situation with a Madeleine Swann - who is w the enemy and not just on her own#idk. we could lose him#(and then Q has to Step In and get him back :3. he may be the only one who can‚ with M gone. I think when M was alive there was less of a#danger of losing Bond. bc like a sort of. Mother Mary figure who is always watching over or whatevr. idk im not actually Catholic lmao#but yea with M as like Our Lady of Vengeance or whatever. looming over Bond's life. he had a patron saint to guide him etc#with her gone then I think Q needs to go a bit more analog. at least at first. until we get some form of 00q established. even if#it's kinda fucked up lmao. depending on how we want to do it. but yeah lol. yeah)
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