#taylor i dont think listens to music because she enjoys it sonically but because certain songs remind her of happier times

[simurghed]

rly wish i could discuss what music the undersiders would like but i am so bad at ascertaining characters music tastes @_@

[petruchio]

Ok but am i the only one who thinks that ttpd is just...downright bad? Like usually when i listen to an album i listen to the sound first and then is start listning to the lyrics. And i feel like in terms of sound it's just...boring. and repetitive. And tried to listen a couple times to it and i just coldnt get through it. Im not a great expert in music, but almost all of them feel "almost" done. A little bit of work could have made them so much better. In terms of lyrics it's not that great eithre. And dont get me worng i do honsetly love her. But with this album... with me at least it's a totel miss

i don't think it's downright bad actually!! but i do think it's kind of... struggling to get out from beneath its own weight if that makes sense. that's why i pared it down to my version of the album (lol) thats just 13 tracks and 3 bonus tracks and i just really think it works better -- like i basically just think its too bloated and that's why so much of it blends together and feels repetitive. like it's hard to make 31 songs sound cohesive without ALSO feeling repetitive. whereas if you halve the number of songs, it feels more like a cohesive work with intentionality behind the sonic choices. (not saying the 31 tracks ARENT intentionally made that way, i just think the sheer quantity is what makes it feel like such a slog)

personally for me i don't mind the sound so much -- though i am a little annoyed at jack because i feel like he just keeps falling into the same couple pockets production-wise and they're starting to just sound a little uninspired to me. like, i LOVE the first two bleachers albums -- and i enjoyed his third album too (again, i literally saw the tour twice) -- but even with this most recent bleachers release i was like... ok yeah this is cool but where's the evolution? where's the experimenting? where's the weird stuff that makes me want to relisten and figure out what he's doing here? and yeah, i know artists tend to fall into certain patterns and styles that they're comfortable with and get less experimental as they go further into their careers -- and taylor and jack are just both at that point i think, they've found their comfort zone and aren't so HUNGRY to keep pushing it. and sometimes it works! but sometimes i reminisce about when jack used to get WEIRD (like, i always think about the closer "stars" on the second fun. album -- is it a great song? i mean... not really. but it's WEIRD. and i like it for that.) so i guess that might be that "almost done" feeling you're feeling -- they just don't feel like they have that final shimmer to me, that one last layer that makes the songs stand out as SPECIAL -- they just feel like, yeah these are the songs we would've expected you to make! (which doesn't HAVE to be a bad thing -- but it does get overwhelming as a listener when, again, there are 31 of them.)

so yeah to me it's not a TOTAL miss. i think she's released worse stuff. (i forgot that you existed is worse than anything on ttpd, i said what i said) but i just think it needed a clearer vision. the aesthetics needed to be bigger, better, brighter. the lyrics needed tightening. the production needed a little more sparkle. it needed artistic integrity instead of an obsession with breaking records. it's close but it isn't landing where it could have.