#the problem is... nolan and then mark are already the viltrumites on earth

[age736]

rattling my brain on how to make viltrumite!goku without just deleting nolan and mark from earth hrmmmmm....

[cherryyluvs]

Hi just first wanted to say I love ur writing, it's so nice to read as if am really seeing it physically. Anyways I wanted to ask if you could write a starfire type reader where she first meets mark and how their relationship grows . Exploring his friends and parents reaction to her power , tamaranean background and personality. I know damn well cecil will be exhausted finding out there's another alien race with so much power . thank you again for ur work in the invincible fandom cause there's so few amazing writers. 😘😘

Ahhh thank you so much!! 🥹💖 That means the world to me!! I LOVE the idea of a Starfire-type reader I don’t know much of her but I tried my best (♡ˊ͈ ꒳ ˋ͈) hope you enjoy!!

Mark first meets you under a.. Chaotic circumstance. An alien attack and he is already in mid-fight when you swoop in. Blasting through enemies, striking, and flipping with this effortless grace. Mark is immediately like Σ(°□°˶) !! So powerful, he can't take his eyes off of you. He's already impressed but also slightly intimidated. “Uh… who are you?” But you can't understand him yet, titling your head blinking in confusion. “You don't understand me, do you?”

Without hesitation you float towards him, placing your hands gently on his cheek and kissing him. Mark freezes. His eyes widened. You pull back, lips turning into a bright smile. “Ah! Now i understand”

“What just happened?”

“In my homeworld, Tamaran, lip contact is a simple custom to learn any language”

“simple..??” Mark is completely flustered while you're acting like kissing him was the most normal thing in the world.

He starts seeing you around more often, you being curious about Earth. Everything from human customs to food. Mark ends up becoming your unofficial guide. You’re fascinated by Earth’s food, the first time Mark takes you out for burgers, you literally hover out of your seat from excitement. “This is delicious! May I try yours?” and before he could answer you, steal a fry from his tray. Acting like fries are the greatest discovery of your life. (˵ •̀ ᴗ - ˵ ) ✧ Mark becomes curious about Tamaranean culture and one day you got him to try something from your home plant – Zorkaberries. Presenting them to him proudly, a small bowl of deep purple berries in your hand, Mark would eye them suspiciously. He hesitated for a moment before picking one, and popping it in his mouth. The flavor being bittersweet “Whoa, this is really good?”

“Of course! They are Zorkaberries!!” giggling, floating closer and patting his back “do you wish for more?”

Tamaraneans are naturally affectionate so you're constantly touching mark. Holding his hand, brushing your fingers through his hair, and hugging him from behind. It's second nature to you. The more you two hang out and go on dates the more you start falling in love, he loves how blunt you are and have no problem telling Mark exactly how you feel — even if it flusters him.

When you first met his parents, Debbie and Nolan. You were extremely polite, immediately hugging her and complimenting her home. Offering to help with dinner which she is surprised but pleased by. During dinner time you speak of tales of your planet, your people, how you come from a warrior race and noble family. Nolan, on the other hand, is suspicious of you. He recognizes how powerful you are and the fact that you come from an alien race puts him on edge. His Viltrumite instincts are definitely twitching, wary of you but you remain cheerful and unbothered.

Cecil is immediately rubbing his temples because 2 Viltrumites is already bad enough – now there's Tamaranean on earth? Just what he needed, but deep down he knows you could be an invaluable ally , keeping a close eye on you to ensure you're not up to something.

As for mark friends ? William thinks you're super cool, saved him from a villain once and he won't stop yapping about how you carried him bridal style. Amber loves how sweet and down to earth you are, obsessed with helping you pick out earth clothes and doing ‘girl stuff’ together. Eve is immediately fascinated by you, she recognizes your power level and asks you about your planet and your culture. “So you guys can fly and absorb sunlight? That's insane”

“It is quite convenient!”

Bonus:

Afterward, Mark’s brain is still trying to catch up. Mark (to himself): “She’s a literal princess. And she kissed me. To learn my language. Okay.” (꜆꜄ᴗ͈﹏ᴗ͈)꜆꜄꜆

[shan-yee]

𝙿𝚑𝚢𝚜𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚕 𝚝𝚘𝚞𝚌𝚑 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚛𝚎𝚕𝚊𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗𝚜𝚑𝚒𝚙 𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚑 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚖

𖦹𝘧𝘦𝘮𝘢𝘭𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘳

𖦹𝘞𝘢𝘳𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴 = Mention of sex, mostly fluff.

𖦹𝘞𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘴 = 725

𖦹𝘈/𝘕 = English is not my first language, please let me know if you see any mistakes ! Enjoy ✨

——— 𝐒 𝗨 𝗠 𝗠 𝗔 𝗥 𝗬 • • •

𝐈 :: 𝗠𝗮𝗿𝗸 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝘆𝘀𝗼𝗻

𝐈𝐈 :: 𝗡𝗼𝗹𝗮𝗻 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝘆𝘀𝗼𝗻

𝐈𝐈𝐈 :: 𝗥𝗲𝘅 𝗦𝗽𝗹𝗼𝗱𝗲

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╰─► 𝐈 ･ ｡ﾟ☆ 𝗠𝗮𝗿𝗸 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝘆𝘀𝗼𝗻

⇰ Mark has no problem initiating physical contact in the street or in front of other people. His mother raised him to understand that there's no shame in loving someone and wanting to show it to the world.

⇰ Remarks from teenagers his age or outraged older people doesn’t affect him, and he tends to try to annoy them even more to make them understand that he doesn't care about their opinions.

⇰ Forehead kisses are his love language, for him, they're even more intimate than a kiss on the mouth, especially when he gets up in the morning, or on the contrary, before going to bed, or just before he has to rush off to save the planet.

⇰ Before he had his powers, his hands were quite soft and almost always clean, even under his nails. But after he started training and rescues of all kinds, they became slightly rough, sometimes calloused. He still tries to take care of them as much as possible, and he’ll gladly accept a little massage with essential oils.

⇰ Mark particularly likes having hands run through his hair, a distant memory of the evenings he spent with his head on his mother’s thighs, her nails gently scratching his scalp.

⇰ He likes to spend evenings in bed, a movie—which he isn't really watching—in the background while he delicately runs his fingers over his girlfriend's body, everywhere ; her back, her neck, her arms, her thighs, he wants to touch and feel everything.

╰─► 𝐈𝐈 ･ ｡ﾟ☆ 𝗡𝗼𝗹𝗮𝗻 𝗚𝗿𝗮𝘆𝘀𝗼𝗻

⇰ His comfort with touching his partner in public depends on when they gets together. If he has never had a relationship with a human, and therefore struggles with Earth social codes, he will be quite distant at first.

⇰ Viltrumites are definitely not used to hugging each other early in the morning or kissing before parting. He will therefore not understand the concept of holding hands while walking down the street or kissing languidly while watching the sunset.

⇰ It'll take time for him to get used to it, and especially a good lesson on « how to act when you're in love ».

⇰ If he's already had some experience—Debbie, for example—he'll understand the principle but won't want to overdo it in public. He'll happily accept light, loving kisses and holding hands or arms. Declarations of love in front of spectators aren't really his thing, compared to his son.

⇰ Nolan has a firm body, as is his expression most of the time, but he can still be very gentle, and his love language consists of little things here and there.

⇰ He's often saving lives on the other side of the world, so he'll leave little clues like notes or objects for a romantic dinner date, accessories with a meaning only he and his partner understand, or simply things she likes.

╰─► 𝐈𝐈𝐈 ･ ｡ﾟ☆ 𝗥𝗲𝘅 𝗦𝗽𝗹𝗼𝗱𝗲

⇰ Rex is the type to pretend he's a big boy and isn't afraid of anything or anyone, but I think that if he really falls in love, like he did with Rae, he'll be quite « shy », or rather embarrassed, to show the side of himself that craves attention.

⇰ Kisses and cuddles are special and precious moments for him, a way to be close to his partner without sex.

⇰ Rex has no shame in kissing or holding his girlfriend close in public, but it's true that he prefers to do it privately because he can enjoy it more, and, with him, it often ends up under the covers.

⇰ His hands are calloused and damaged, he doesn't take particular care of them, but if one day his partner made a remark, hand hygiene would suddenly become a priority.

⇰ He would buy creams and cuticle treatments, he would learn how to care for his nails and avoid grime—in short, everything. For him, it's important that the reader enjoys the feel of his hands on her, and He never realized how much his hands had been damaged by time and effort.

⇰ Rex likes to spend his mornings and days, if he can, with his girlfriend, under the warm sheets. No need for sex, just the two of them cuddling and touching without a hint of sexuality, which is rare for him. And like Nolan, he's often saving lives, so to make up for it, he'll plan romantic dinners and leave notes and little drawings lying around.

[conquestable]

some reading notes from volume 13

chap one

starts out with nolan and allen, halleluiah

nolan calls allen "my friend" waaah just kiss already

direct quote: "to rid ourselves of any weakness we slaughtered each other until we were bred into the viltrumites you know today." WHAT DID I SAY BEFORE? CONQUEST = BREEDING TO THEM.

oh? theres a virus that can take out the viltrumites? who made it?

damn my man beat cancer and lived, thats how he got his scars… you would assume a warrior got his scars in battle, but conquest didnt. hes never been touched in battle. he Conquers. gosh i love him.

yadda yadda the virus killed all of them and theres less than 50 left, this meant instead of hoards of viltrumites invading planets just one would go alone, and their threat is empty bc theres nothing to back it up, earth was destined to become a breeding camp bc their dna is so close to viltrumite

omg allen has a hot blue lady friend, good for him, and he has a GUILT KINK, GOOD FOR HIM. good for him. he likes to be coerced into sex like some kind of repressed christain who can only be talked into doing anal bc theyre saving their purity for marriage or god or whoever they save it for.

nolan says he wrote the books as a reminder to himself, and to mark if he should ever need it, and that he changed all the names of things so no one could trace him or whatever who cares, they read a book about red racer theyre gonna know its about red racer even if you call him red rascal

man nolan and allen have such good energy, nolan wants to be the wise old veteran so bad and allen is just the unimpressed young fanboy who questions the legitimacy of nolans achievements and becomes even more in love when nolan elaborates, he just loves when nolan engages with him

chap two

chapter two cover slaps, i love seeing allen get slapped around, and his sleeve being all ripped just to show you his ripped arm and showing thigh too, peak allen content

anyway theyre going to get some special old gun from a guy who should be dead but isnt, awkward

allen eats bugs for fun, this bit comes up TWICE, i dont want to imagine nolan kissing his bug mouth, why are you cockblocking me this way

anyway they take the not dead guy (space racer) back to hq, and then allen takes nolan back home with him and FUCKS HIS GIRLFRIEND LOUDLY WHERE NOLAN CAN HEAR HIM HAHAHA i wonder if he also listened to allens weird foreplay kink shit

not a nolan bare foot shot, think of the sensitive ladies eyes that are on these images

aww nolan is worried for allens safety… theyre fighting some viltrumite-eating monsters that got unfrozen from some ice cuz… they need ice for some reason who cares

they go on some more missions together and meanwhile nolan is still sleeping on allens couch months later, listening to him fight with and fuck his girlfriend (nolan honey you could solve your problems by showing allen he doesnt need to fuck anyone but you, youd get both stress relief and sleep, seduce him, seduce him)

damn the old guy in charge of allen revels they have more of the virus to nolan, even more powerful than the old virus, what u gonna do nolan?

chap three

covers good again, mark is cute, looking good with his new robot parts

marks face when a dinosaur says a bunch of boring words at him hahahaha

oh… theyre not robot parts, theyre just casts that look like robot parts for some reason, boooo

uh, the guardians of the globe show up but i thought they broke up? maybe its a canon variation

uhghh noo mark is venting to eve about how he has to justrify killing conquest to himself, NOT THIS AGAIN

eves dad is disgusting, disgusting, boooo, get off the screen, he goes on a rant to mark about how girls are most attractive when they are stupid virgins bc men like to weaponize their sexual knowledge against them, and he thanks mark for putting up with eve even tho shes "damaged goods"

mark is cuter in the comics, his mask is drawn with more personality than he shows in the cartoon

oliver knows too much about sex HAHA also him changing his name to "young omni-man" instead of "kid omni-man" is cute but reminds me he will grow up and die quickly T-T

conquests head wakes up and he throws a tantrum

OMG HES ALIVE???? MY FLAME

god the fucking squid aliens are still around, who cares

eve is pregnant and crying about it and not telling mark about it, im sure that will be fine

chap four

eve is having some kind of issue with her powers i dont remember from the show

some universa lady fights mark and eve cuz she wants to drain the earths power

the guardians fight the stupid squid aliens again, i realized that these are only the characters who didnt quit, so they did break up, theres just more of them left than i thought

chap five

a bunch more boring squid stuff but mark murders another guy so theres that

cecil watches him do the murder on his secret spank cam and goes "i know i tried to kill him for stepping out of line for less, but this murder is fine, we have other problems"

oliver is 13-14 now and his babysitter thinks he will be an "adult" in a year, whatever age that means

mark is in the middle of a private conversation with eve about how he feels like hes an out of control murderer (i wish) and cecil just teleports in like the imposing, selfish cock he is, he has no idea what boundaries are

chap six

and cecil continues to berate mark for being an out of control murderer, for murdering all those EVIL DUDES WHO DESERVED IT? give me a break

he even criticizes mark for fighting with nolan and frames it as a petty disagreement that could have been solved another way GET REALLLL

shut up cecil shut up shut up you think youre so cool cuz you can pee with your penis

cecil tries to convince mark he shouldnt kill people because even killers can be reformed, like sinclare who performed body horror experiments on his living classmate for kicks, and now can be weaponized by the military to make an army of undead corpses, see mark, let them live, you can be reformed

his attempts at putting a leash on mark are pathetic, i hope mark steps on him one day

cecil knows conquest escaped, aaahhhhh my man is alive i wonder what hes up to, floating around naked in space

oh no hes groveling at his kings feet actually, i hate to watch this omg, he says conquest is a useless animal that should be put down T-T

he has to admit to the king that he was having too much fun playing with his food and it got away, iconic honest king

hes given new orders to murder nolan and allen and the other guys going to earth to get mark, in exchange for keeping his life

ooooohhhhhh oliver is jealous that mark spends all his time with eve oh oh oh (ps hes losing his colour as he ages, i think i forgot to say that)

mark goes to art again for some fucking reason to talk, and he says nolan was a good guy and mark shouldnt be scared to be like him

oh god he puts the even uglier yellow costume back on, thanks art

ughhhh mark fell for cecils speech give me a break, theres more than "all murder" and "no murder" life is shades of grey

mark and eve get interrupted AGAIN in the middle of the same talk by nolan and allen, that that interruption means nothing and we just get a scene change where mark and eve keep talking on a date later, shes still not telling him shes pregnant

my theory of nolans decision to let mark live wasnt so sudden was correct, he says nolan admitted to him that he didnt kill him cuz he loved him and he couldnt do it, that he was questioning his loyalties to viltrum already before, and the fight was the last straw

mark slips in some recap exposition to eve about the viltrum empire, mark describes anissa as the honey that came before the vinegar (conquest) wow i said the same thing

ig the silly little bro bonding missions nolan and allen were going on was collecting the weapons they can use against the viltrumites from his books (i totally knew that)

marks final thought in the volume is that he cant help the viltrumite blood in his veins, he can only help what he will become with it (youre on the right track babe)

[marzipanilla]

I read your keep reading break as my keep reading break and this whole rant almost showed up, ass out for the dash xD

I do my best to be like 'yeah that's a kid, limited experience/perceptions whatevs' but also... that is a fictional character written by an adult. At the end of the day if you fail to make me feel anything but annoyance/rage at the character, I will unapologetically dislike them and age is not a limiting factor lol Plus you have so many opportunities to not make him obnoxious (or at the very least justify his obnoxiousness) and then you don't it's like ?? Then you pile on the added factors of why the fuck is Debbie his main parent, and are we ever going to address why Nolan felt compelled to actually produce another child in the middle of his suicidal depression after fucking up his last one- like... Not only is he a plot device to make Mark think about shit that he has plenty of other plot devices making him think about anyway (his dad's 'we're better than them' speech, finding out every other version of him is a prick- like Oliver saying 'what if dad is right' is SO pointless bc it's a thought that should have already occurred to Mark and been faced and- dealt with or not - we didn't need this specific character to talk about it!) so Oliver just basically fucks up other characters arcs/personalities in the process of asking a question THAT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED.

I WILL sit down and write Kregg or Lucan using toddler purple boy as a bludgeon against Nolan's head and him having to sit their with his dead son's brains in his mouth and actually face the immediate consequences of his actions instead of getting to run off to a secondary location and decide how to approach it from a distance. Literally NO ONE had to die on Thraxa Nolan. You could have just left.

Yeah the purple-ness is BS. It's like 'Nolan has red blood, Andressa has blue skin... those two colors make purple!' like SIR ??

It almost feels like the characters personalities have been retconned a bit. Like. Mark guilt magnet 'I must control myself' Grayson absolutely failing so hard at that or even apparently caring at failing so hard at that. I already had my secondary post ranting about Debbie's parenting thus far this season lol Like, do these people not remember anything that happened to them previously ?? The trajectory was wobbly, but you had a trajectory! Mark TRYING to get in control and finding it harder could have been a thing ! But no, he just had strength training and now murders his way through his problems ?? Maybe Debbie overcompensating because Nolan WAS a murderer so she put too many heroes vs bad guys shit in Oliver's head ?? but no ?? they're just ?? acting weird ??? instead ??

Nolan disproved that viltrumites aren't inherently incapable of experiencing empathy! He just had to learn it ! And Oliver was definitely raised in a situation where he should have been learning it ! SO WHERE IS THIS ELITISM COMING FROM. WHERE WHERE SHOW. Did his thraxan mom kissing him on the forehead and calling him the specialist boy ever (worth the destruction of her planet!) fuck up his head?? we ever going to talk about Andressa again?? ever?

So like how you talked about not wanting to read the manga while watching the anime bc it changes things- I am unfortunately anticipating way too much and it's kinda throwing things off for me lol I genuinely wonder if I will like this season a lot more on a second watch bc I won't be spending the entire time screaming at the screen about things almost happening. Like. I knew who was the king of Earth in the future, so, the slow ass build up to it just made me fucking impatient. Not to mention my future comic knowledge of how that story line comes around at all just makes me roll my eyes at everything that happened there- tho at least show Mark points out that Immortal could have just, y'know, STOPPED- something his comic counterpart never seemed to realize was a valid thing to say. Like dude. Suicide by Mark is still suicide. Throw your ass into the sun! You met Mark and Kate at the same time, but you remember him and not her? You've had hundreds of wives? Get this man a pocket pussy, apparently he can't experience any empathy for living things unless his dick is getting wet on the reg. Like. Immortal just annoys me so much. Enduring while everything around you dies is an interesting story ! Somehow every time he tries to bring it up I just hate him.

Though he is just another example of something that I think Kirkman had done a few times- which is it doesn't seem to occur to characters that they can say no. Nolan, bud, maybe DON'T become emperor of the people of a planet you know nothing about ?? Did it ever occur to you that would be a BAD MOVE ? You can help out and not be their ruler. Same for Immortal. Not to mention future Mark being so into dictators he assigns one to Earth is wild. Kirkman just seems to really love dictators.

I think Nolan's almost execution and the break out was done SUPER well. Love watching that pathetic man try and drown himself in regret like this bitch doesn't full on have two kids he is escaping responsibility for in the process. Sir. It is time for you to use your punchy punch powers to maybe start punching things back together.

I thought the reveal that Viltrumites were almost extinct was going to happen at the end of last season, so, to say I have been waiting for this news is an understatement xD I also thought one thing I was super worried about got addressed to never come back to haunt me, only to realize it is still VERY possible for it to be brought up and I just have so much anxiety about that- that until I know one way or another my enjoyment of what is in the eps is SO limited. Like, I NEED TO KNOW so I can know whether or not to be mad and just deal with it, or I can be relieved and just enjoy what comes next.

Fun fact, we now know more about Rae- and have seen her in civilian clothes- then we do about Kate. WILD.

I like PFT but having the narrator come back was so unnecessary. They tried to push the comedy so hard this ep, and I imagine it's supposed to be a breather before more oncoming shit hits the fan but.. Allen is enough comedic relief. I don't need a random voice.

Also Mark, your mom has had some serious traumatic experiences with people breaking into her house- maybe don't sneak people in and not tell her about it. Maybe. Yes haha funny moment (and I was full on waiting for Debbie to be like 'tell Eve I said goodnight' through the door) but I will still sit here and be like stop lying to your mom about stupid shit! Let her know whose in the house so she wont be freaked out by it!

And to jump back to previous ep- Mark faced consequences for once, Immortal? The kid who got a mace through the gut? Almost died to his father? Had to go to Atlantis by himself to face the crimes his father committed? Who almost died getting sent on a mission he had to tell Cecil he would be a good dog for ?? Whose mother and brother almost died bc of a guy who escaped the aftermath you IMMORTAL were supposed to be cleaning up? You think Cecil blowing out his eardrums was the first time he faced consequences?? go fuck yourself. Mark was being stupid but that response is so dumb. 'for once' SIR. you have just been dead and depressed you haven't been around. fuck off.

Mark agreeing to go hang out on a beach w Debbie instead of refusing and the beach is Beach City (am now officially thinking too much about this crossover lol)

The way I got caught up on our back and forth I almost forgot this, lol! AND OH MY GOODNESS, IMAGINE? I forget exactly what which point Debbie makes the beach offer, but I’d love when exactly in SU/SUF-timeline they’d go? There’s something so fucking funny to me about them going during the SUF-timeline and always narrowly missing the strange, Steven-shaped mental breakdowns in the back. I know those don’t occur in a single day, but it’s tickling me. How could they miss anything? I don’t know I just think it’s funny.

Though, post-SUF is interesting if Gems can see the similar “world on your shoulders”, Mark has going on! Steven can shunt the narrative in the Gems’ minds, which I think is neat, if I’m not misusing the phrase since the guy’s on the road far away. Or maybe it’s just before Steven goes and they stumble into each other. I’d kinda love Pearl and Debbie interacting, honestly, if they could talk about loving someone who hurt you, hide things from you, even when you thought you knew them so deeply, and they left you to raise a child. Pearl being in a well adjusted space, and Debbie still grieving.

Honestly, the gems could help train Mark, they’re got experience and similar-ish powers in strength, sturdiness, and they can jump/run fast enough for flying to be vaguely similar enough to lecture about, I think. Or Lapis Lazulis, haha! Peridot with her trash can lid! Garnet, I’d love to see if she told Mark anything about his future in vague, well meaning advice. Or even giving relationship advice considering Amber. Or, importantly, how to convince an entire reign to end their colonizing ways, lol. Is Mark perhaps willing to start a war, take advantage of being related to any leaders, or fake his own death to varying results?

In general, there’s something so fucking funny to me about Nolan, in the sake of comparison, being Pink Diamond coded. Like OH, did an important or well respected of the colonizing empire come to earth and learn the beauty of its people and nature, including faking/lying/omitting things about his identity and background to being in, only to feel conflicted when his responsibility still remained, and he tried to free himself from them? Yikes! We’ve been through that before! Like gimme Pink Diamond and Nolan outfit swap rn. This is tickling me so much oh my goodness.