#then edwin -> stay with charles
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Charles' thing is that he wants to feel alive and that's part of the reason why he decided to never move on to the afterlife right? Meanwhile Edwin thinks Charles will move on and that he'll be alone again because 'he isn't good with people'.
But then when the Night Nurse shows up a second time Charles is ready to go wherever -including Hell- as long as Edwin shouldn't have to go back there, meanwhile Edwin refuses that they be split up, and both are okay with being sent together to the Lost and Found Department to be sorted out later as long as they're together-
#does this make sense#like#charles -> stay on earth#then charles is like -> fuck earth edwin n°1#edwin -> stay out of hell and wander alone ig#then edwin -> stay with charles#although you can argue that charles wanted to stick around the one dude that was nice to him since the start but like#idk how to explain it#he'd rather argue for edwin's case than argue to stay on earth#edwin not going back to hell is his main goal in the discussion#meanwhile edwin's goal is that they stay together + that he doesn't go back to hell#i do wonder what it would've looked like if they'd gone to the lost and found department#do they try to escape it#does charles find out where he was headed#anyways another day of being very normal about this show#dead boy detectives#charles rowland#edwin payne#paynland#payneland#i know that charles' whole motivation isn't just that he wishes he were still alive and that he wish he hadn't had his life stolen from him#but my thoughts are not coherent enough for any type of deep character analysis essay and i would probably mischaracterize him horribly#wonder what was edwin's plan when he came out of hell cuz he went back to his highschool so was he just doing a bit of visiting#“oh hello place where i died”
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shotout to the writers who include charles' little slip of "ah, mate" when they're snogging and edwin needing to physically pull away like, "charles, i am begging you, kindly do not mate me when we are in the midst of engaging in these amorous affairs."
and it's already good, but even better when charles needs to fight with the proverbial two wolves that go, "begging, huh?" and "hehe, you said mate me" like he's actually sixteen years old and alive and not a day older. never gets boring, i genuinely eat this up everytime, thank
#dead boy detectives#payneland#edwin payne#charles rowland#dbda#edwin x charles#perhaps this will go into the next fic. who knows#staying silly detective agency#one of my fave tropes. charles would call edwin mate on their literal wedding
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Shh!
#there's just something about how in the face of infernal threats edwin tries to make *physically* sure that his friends stay quiet#dead boy detectives#dbd#crystal palace#charles rowland#edwin payne#payneland#tw flashing#my gifs
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Another absolute need for S2: Edwin flirting back at Charles, at least once.
Charles, leaning over Edwin reading a book: I'm just saying, my smile is pretty convincing...
Edwin, looking up at Charles from under his lashes: I rather agree. It could convince me to do a great many things.
Charles, face blank, staring: *404 ERROR. RESPONSE NOT FOUND. PLEASE REBOOT.*
Edwin: *turns back to his book wearing the same satisfied, flirty smirk he wore as he walked away from the Cat King*
#Charles just stays there for a solid 10 minutes unable to process#just staring off into space#head empty no thoughts#charles rowland#edwin payne#edwin paine#dead boy detectives#dead boy detective agency#dbda#renew dead boy detectives
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Ooh, now that we’ve seen N!Edwin and DP!Edwin talk about Feelings could we see the same with N!Charles and DP!Charles?
As simple as that.
Edwins version
ko-fi
#ask ask ask#dead boy detectives#dbda#payneland#edwin x charles#doom patrol#dead patrol#oof man i was not made to write serious conversations#is this healthy? who the hell knows#but is it true to charles' character?#well i sure hope so!#in dp!charles mind#his whole reason for staying has always been edwin#if he gets to do stay with him#it'll be great no matter what form their relationship takes#if edwin loves him in a romantic way? hell yeah! then they can be even closer!#he is thinking in an 'I am his already since the day he found me' sort of way#and to be honest I think dbd!charles agrees#but he also knows he is a people pleaser so he doesn't want to just go and say yes to edwin to make him happy#without being sure he will be able to keep saying yes forever#dp!charles doesn't have this conflict because i genuinely don't think he's picturing forever#he's not as confident in their ability to outrun Death indefinitely#but that allows him to understand more clearly what he's feeling now!#I have thoughts about these boys as you can see
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One thing i havent seen people talk about is that when Charles says "We've got litteraly forever to figure out the rest" its a plea.
They dont have forever. They either get stuck in Hell, becouse Charles looked back and slowed them down on their escape or they get out and go to the lost and found department only to be seprated by paperwork. Theyre running from one prison to another and it trully looks like theyre doomed but-
Charles came to Hell for Edwin, whats a lost and found department? Whats anything when Charles turned around and Edwin was still there?
Theyre a fixed point, just like the lantern in the wall behind them, a light that will never go out.
#dead boy detectives#charles rowland#edwin payne#charles x edwin#payneland#my beloved#the case of the very long stairway#i love this scene#like everything about it is just chefs kiss#also earlier in the ep when Charles is nagotiating with nught nurse he suggests him and Edwin stay in hell forever#and i think thats very telling#like sure he didnt know what hell was but he also didnt care he just wanted to be with edwin#wherever that is
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"You ever think—what if Death did catch us? She'd force us to go to the afterlife and split up." "I will make sure that never happens."
#dbda#dead boy detectives#dead boy detective agency#payneland#mygifs#this was so ridiculously romantic within the first 10 minutes of the pilot i am losing itttt#the fact that charles is the one to start the conversation. to be like 'i don't want us to be apart. i don't want to be without you.'#and edwin almost reaching for charles. the conviction in his voice when he reassures charles they'll always be together#the way charles looks at him#oughghghgh#feeling unwell about edwin starting out with 'you stay and i go' in the attic. and 35 years later he NEVER wants to leave charles. never#charles' 'what if i stayed here for a bit with you instead?' turned into 'promise me i'll never have to leave you' asdfkfkfkgg#chewing glass
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Here's a sneak peak of my art piece that will be a part of the dead boy detectives charity calendar! All of the artwork is absolutely incredible, so you should totally be excited for june this year! I will post the full piece as soon as the calender is available
#dead boy detectives art#save dead boy detectives#dbda#dead boy detectives#charles rowland#renew dead boy detectives#edwin payne#niko sasaki#crystal palace surname von hoverkraft#crystal palace#you can see by how crunchy and low detail their faces are that this is a big piece so definetely stay tuned
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So when Charles justifies possessing Esther's body by saying "it's kinda like, extenuating circumstances, you know" do you think the extenuating circumstances are that they're trying to rescue Becky and Esther is kicking their asses... or do you think that Charles looked over, saw that Edwin had been walloped and panicked? Like were the extenuating circumstances specifically that Edwin was hurt? Hhmmm, Charles?
#like if Edwin had stayed on the stairs an extra moment Charles wouldnt have jumped straight to possession as his next move#but now edwin is in danger so we go straight to the nuclear option#the case of crystal palace#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#charles rowland
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cannot stop thinking about that 80s chaotic bisexual punk and his uptight repressed edwardian boyfriend
#fucking hell bro#those fuckers won’t get out my head for like two seconds#i was just about to go to bed (right after working on my charles edit)#and then i thought it better if i stayed up instead to read some ao3#i have to be up tomorrow at 6#why do i do this to myself#edwin payne get out of my head#dead boy detectives#dbda#edwin payne#charles rowland#payneland#dead boy detective agency#dead boy detective netflix#not-the-living-ghost
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To-Do List for Today:
1) Don't think about how alarmed Charles is when Edwin's straining against the mirror in 1.2, how he yells at him to stop before he 'rips his arm clean off,' or about how Edwin (almost uncharacteristically) has no retort at all to that but immediately composes himself
2) Also don't think about how, judging by the already-somewhat-unnecessary explanation Edwin provides in 1.7, Charles must be learning for the very first time that (at least some of) his 70+ years being Tortured In Hell consisted of a giant spider demon repeatedly tearing him apart
3) Especially don't think of those two facts in tandem--
ah damn I've fucked it up already, oh well I guess there's always tomorrow
#charles rowland#edwin payne#dead boy detectives#the case of the dandelion shrine#the case of the very long stairway#tfw you both try to spare the person you care most about the worst details of your trauma & it backfires tremendously#edwin snapping at crystal that she should know he might get his arm torn off if he sticks it in the backpack while charles is out in 1.3#can stay for now#(if only bc im choosing to make this about charles realizing how Even More Fucked Up his friend is than he thought)#but it's on thin ice!#edwin & the various threats of dismemberment he receives is something that can be so personal actually (for charles)
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Here's a little spin-off of my original Hadestown/Dead Boy Detectives gifset. I read too many posts recently about Charles basically moving in with Edwin as soon as they meet...
I just love all the parallels you can find between the show and the musical. ❤️💙
If you haven't seen them you can find the original gifset here and a Hadestown/Dead Boy Detectives Video here.
#What if I stay here for a bit with you instead?#Looks like you're stuck with me#dead boy detectives#come home with me#hadestown broadway#hadestown#hadestown musical#orpheus and eurydice#charles and edwin#wait for me#greek mythology#mine#my gifs
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Edwin Payne & Charles Rowland | Dead Boy Detectives 1.06
#dead boy detectives#charles rowland#edwin payne#jayden revri#george rexstrew#dbda#mygifs#dbdagifs#i do in fact need charles to stay still#hes always moving#(not actually though since its so in character)#dbda106
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Regardless of the fact that I adore absolutely everything about Edwin Payne, I ALSO love that he can run so fucking fast!
In hell he was leaving Charles in the dirt every time they ran next to each other
It's just so funny that even though Charles is the brawn, he couldn't outrun Edwin for the life of him (and perhaps that's why they have a system of Edwin being the one to open the mirror portals for them like in ep 1)
#is it from practice#charles stays and fights and edwin has to run away to be able to use a spell from a safe distance#or is edwin just naturally sonic the hedgehog#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#charles rowland#payneland#my posts#painland
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Already made a post about Charles not being the biggest fan of Monty but rewatching the show just makes it even more obvious like
Edwin might've been worried about Crystal but Charles looks like a kicked puppy seeing him go talk to Monty
Then Edwin's just acting super weird and so is Monty and Charles is taking it very well
And all of a sudden Monty is nice to Charles?? And Charles looks so smug like "everyone likes me eventually" and all (meanwhile Niko cannot be bothered, stay hydrated)
Also if he wanted to keep up the friendliness after Monty's been nice to him, maybe he could've not refused the case despite everyone else agreeing (even Edwin)
And then he's just thrilled everytime Monty and Edwin are together 👍
#everytime he talks to edwin about monty is so funny to me too#like at first i was just like 'oh he's taking the news of monty and edwin having a thing very well' and then i realized#that was after monty turned out to be a crow and a traitor#stay supportive of your best pals and their maybe-crushes being a crow#although that could just be my (admittedly very biased) opinion so would love to know if he's actually besties with monty and i got it wron#dead boy detectives#charles rowland#jealous charles rowland#payneland#paynland#save dead boy detectives
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Kind of wild that "Edwin gets dragged back to Hell and Charles chooses to go rescue him and they have to escape together" wasn't even, like. The climactic final obstacle of the season.
#the universe said 'we can't stop you from staying on this plane but we CAN make you suffer'#dead boy detectives#dbda#edwin payne#charles rowland#by elise
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