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Yk, the aeons in honkai star rail really seem to come in pairs
The Hunt & the Abundance - Life and Death (cycle of life) - This one is the most explicitly stated in game, with the followers of the hunt hunting down the abominations of abundance on the xianzhou
The Destruction & The Preservation - Ties to entropy, perhaps? - this one is fairly obvious the preservation preserves things and the destruction destroys.
The Erudition & The Enigmata - Knowledge and Mysteries - This one is also one of the more obvious ones, what the genius society works to document, the History Fictionologists work to obscure
The Harmony & the Elation - Unity and Chaos - This one seems to come out in penacony the most, with sparkle doing a terrorism and disrupting the peace.
The Beauty & The Nihility - Meaningful and Meaningless - The followers of the Beauty strive to see the beauty in everything, in all life, death, journeys and destinations, while followers of the Nihility believe that everything is meaningless
The Propagation & The Voracity - Production and Consumption - The Voracity was all about consumption, ravenging worlds in endless hunger, while the Propagation was all about endless reproduction. In other words, endless hunger and an endless food source.
The Trailblaze & The Finality - The Journey and the Destination - This is one that I'm less confident about, but the trailblaze is all about the journey of charting new paths and revisiting old ones, while the finality is all about, well, the final destination.
The Remembrance & The Permanence - Mind and Matter - This is the weakest one, but I'll describe it the best I can. The Rememberance is all about memories and collecting them, and storing them. The Permanence is all about keeping the state of the world permanent. The Remembrance seeks to preserve the minds/memories, while the Permanence seeks to preserve the physical state of the world.
This leaves 2 left, which are unpaired.
The Order - The Order has technically been assimilated into the Harmony, so perhaps it doesnt have a pair?
The Equilibrium - Maybe the equilibrium can be paired with itself? I'll have to look into the lore for the equilibrium but that's the only explanation I can think of.
#honkai star rail#hsr#honkai#aeons#honkai aeons#honkai star rail aeons#hsr aeons#hsr theory#idk im just theorycrafting#i noticed it first with the hunt and abundance#then with the erudition and enigmata
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Cookie Run: Kingdom characters if they were HSR pathrstriders... (a ramble)
I caught a wild case of late-night thoughts recently where I started contemplating about CRK and HSR and began wondering what paths would CRK characters be on if they were pathstriders in HSR ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
This is purely based on vibes and sleep-deprived thoughts, but gameplay wise, I think Pure Vanilla Cookie would totally be an Abundance character (though if you held me at gunpoint and told me to choose something else, I would pick Harmony as a second choice). Lore-wise though, I could potentially see him as a Member of the Genius Society (alongside White Lily Cookie pre-truth). I can totally imagine Pure Vanilla having... like... an alternate path form (kinda like the Trailblazer or March 7th) that's Nihility and based on his Truthless Recluse form ヽ(°〇°)ノ
I can def see Hollyberry Cookie as a Preservation character gameplay-wise, tho I'm not sure what faction she would be a part of lore-wise. ¯\_(- > -)_/¯
Dark Cacao Cookie, however, I can imagine as a Hunt character and a part of the Xianzhou Alliance, I think...
Weirdly enough, I can sort of vaguely see Golden Cheese Cookie as either a Remembrance or Harmony character gameplay-wise under the same logic as Jing Yuan being Erudition. Lore-wise though, I guess Golden Cheese gives me the vibes of someone who'd be a part of Penacony. At first I thought the Land of Festivities didn't suit her vibes, but then I remembered the appearance of the Golden City, so lore-wise, she could be a part of Penacony, probably a Dreamweaver.
Although I can see White Lily Cookie's gameplay path being Erudition, I think it would be more interesting if she (for similar reasons as Jing Yuan and what I suggested for Golden Cheese) were a Destruction character. Though as I mentioned before, I do think she would be a member of the Genius Society pre-truth. Post-truth, I do think it would be interesting if she had become a part of the Antimatter Legion (maybe even as an Emanator) or the Annihilation Gang.
Shadow Milk Cookie gives me Nihility vibes, tho I do think that, narrative-wise, he too would have been a part of the Genius Society during his Sage/Fount of Truth days (or maybe a member of the Intelligentsia Guild). After becoming a beast tho, I can see him becoming a pathstrider of Enigmata (the opposite of Nous' Erudition) or a Masked Fool ()giving in entirely to Aha's hedonism)
I think Cream Unicorn Cookie's gameplay path would either be Abundance, Harmony, or Remembrance. Don't know what they would be lore-wise tho. ᐠ( ᐛ )ᐟ
Tho I think Wedding Cake and Black Forest Cookie's gameplay paths would be Harmony and Destruction respectively
And that's all I got now lol (≧▽≦)
Thanks for tuning in to my ramble lol ≽(•⩊ •マ≼
#cookie run kingdom#crk#honkai star rail#hsr#pure vanilla cookie#truthless recluse#hollyberry cookie#dark cacao cookie#golden cheese cookie#white lily cookie#shadow milk cookie#cream unicorn cookie#wedding cake cookie#black forest cookie#star rail paths#hsr paths#hsr abundance#hsr harmony#hsr erudition#hsr genius society#hsr nihility#hsr preservation#hsr hunt#hsr xianzhou alliance#hsr remembrance#hsr destruction#hsr antimatter legion#hsr enigmata#hsr masked fools#au idea
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every single time i look at the contrast in design between mydeimos and phainon i get more and more distressed. the bearer of the coreflame of strife, reflecting more of kephale's temperament (even the pose and way he was bleeding in his character trailer splash reflects kephale??). the one destined for the worldbearer's burden, with the exact same color scheme of nikador and a similarly massive blade. nikador scorns mydeimos' gentleness when they go to retrieve phainon from his trial, yet blatantly favors phainon's valor even in failure.
chryseus leo doesnt even look like a lion - it very clearly has antlers! like an oryx, even! arguably, the tattoos on mydeimos' back are patterned like an oryx's face! the sun is more strongly associated with a lion thematically, yet mydeimos is firmly and consistently associated with night, meanwhile phainon has the sun themes.
and when you start to think about mydeimos' backstory, like really think about it, there are too many discrepancies that don't add up. in 3.0 we are told he abandoned castrum kremnos with a fleet of warriors. in 3.1 we are told he had never stepped foot in kremnos once until killing his father. in 3.0 we are given the impression he had no idea what his father did to desecrate nikador. in 3.1 he explicitly states it as one of his justifications for slaying his father. he dreams of his mother's voice despite never seeing her face. he refers to castrum kremnos as his home, he speaks of his library, despite consistently giving the impression that he has always considered okhema more of a home than kremnos — even in his storybook. it is also so weird that he holds so much knowledge of ancient kremnoan traditions despite supposedly never stepping foot in it, and his familiarity with the layout of the city in 3.0 despite, again, never living there? how does he know chryseus leo? on his return to castrum kremnos, we're not experiencing mydeimos' weird hallucinations - there are active timeline jumps. we hear the same chants of oronyx as we do whenever we use their powers to alter the environment. and given that we, the trailblazers, have irrevocably fucked with the timeline not once but twice in castrum kremnos, i have full reason to believe amphoreus is facing a crisis of converging timelines — including the merging of two entirely different mydeimoses: one who was raised in castrum kremnos for a time before being exiled and one who eurypon threw into the sea of souls. (there is a very nice post that breaks this down in far more detail which i will link here)
and, when you consider who the flame reaver's true identity might be, as well as how he can carve through timelines even without oronyx's power, this theory only holds more weight.
#//immortal; (OOC)#//about; (THE UNCROWNED KING)#i havent watched the 3.2 trailer btw so idk if more got revealed. but#ough#rotting from the inside out over this#i understand also that it could be shitty hoyo writing but honestly? my opinion is that penacony was a lesson.#penacony was teaching us about the falsehood of memories and inconsistencies.#we know both erudition and remembrance are paths on amphoreus and atp i am fully convinced the third is enigmata#these discrepancies are simply too many and too great and the thematic contrasts are too much to simply chalk up to bad writing
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Yknow what, if we're right about the third path being Enigmata, then doesn't that mean that the prophecy is unreliable? And that does make sense considering the fact that Oronyx? calls it a false prophecy
#honkai star rail#hsr#it just aglea and the rest believes in the prophecy so much#that i just cant help but doubt it#i feel like if mihoyo wants to pull a twist#the easiest one would be with the prophecy#and it even make sense for it to be the enigmata#afaik its the only path thats directly linked to both erudition and remembrance#anyway this feels like the prophecy in mistborn#i would not be surprised to learn that ghe propecy jas been tweaked in some ways
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i fucking love the hsr aeons
#ive said this before But i'll say it again#i love how so many paths feel like opposites. propagation and voracity. erudition and enigmata. abundance and hunt. GRAAGHGDHHGD#maurposting#honkai mumb rail
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everyones making their calls, i think the three aeons in amphoreus are remembrance, enigmata and finality
#honorary mention for beauty propagation voracity and erudition#honestly that third spot could go to anyone#but im pretty certain on remembrance and enigmata#but i feel like so many aeons are being set up lately#propagation w ruan mei and the remains#i think thats gonna remain a luofu thing for now tho#beauty because the storytelling aspect#and also the beauty is missing and it could make sense that they're somewhere no one else can find#voracity because of the idea of chaos and everyone turning on each other#and erudition bc herta#but w finality being set up at the end of penacony and then w apocalyptic shadow#and the themes of what we've seen so far#i just have a feeling#okay#hsr#mumblings#amphoreus
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Think of hsr erudition path as mysticism and studies of the occult instead ha :-)
#such a cool concept. like thats a nerd. but a wizard nerd ☝️🤓#loving the idea that to go dwelling into the occult as a follower of the path of erudition is fruitful until a certain point when you reach#some kind of gnosis and the big realization is you kinda walked your path until its most logical end (which is the overlap with enigmata#where erudition ceases to be) and you kinda have to die a nerd or live long enough to turn into whatever enigmata path ppl are#like not as opposed paths but paths that no matter what converge so seamlessly if you walk long enough
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HONKAI STAR RAIL - Aeons:
Lan - Hunt / Nanook - Destruction
Xipe - Harmony / Yaoshi - Abundance
Mythus - Enigmata / Fuli - Remembrance
Aha - Elation / Qlipoth - Preservation
Nous - Erudition / IX - Nihility
#hsr#hsr spoilers#honkai star rail#honkai impact#hsr aeons#aeons#honkai sr#honkai 3rd#hsr nanook#nanook#hsr lan#hsr yaoshi#yaoshi#qlipoth#qliphoth#hsr xipe#hsr aha#hsr mythus#hsr ipc#ipc#astral express#genius society#masked fools#garden of recollection#xianzhou luofu#🏹 xianzhou alliance#the family#antimatter legion#mihoyo#hoyoverse
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We are only in 3.0 but do you have any theories how the story is going to develop? (Especially with no one having any idea where the prophecy came from)
Also maybe it's just me, but I think they made Phainon just a little bit too fond of Mydei to the point I can feel my alarm bells going through the roof...i don't know if it's a death flag but it's defintiely some kinda angst flag...
How does it feel to be the smartest person in the room? Predicting them Phaidei death flags all the way from 3.0. Good job, anon!
To be honest, I have given up on trying to predict Hoyoverse stories because if at some point someone told me Penacony was going to be invaded by viral meme talking monkeys, exunt pursued by a ninja, I would have asked them what kind of crack they were smoking, but... here we are...
However, I do have a wild conspiracy theory about Amphoreus, and it goes like this:
Amphoreus itself is one gigantic "allegory of the cave" meets "lotus eater" plot.
The Amphoreus that the Trailblazer and Dan Heng are currently trapped in isn't a real world at all--it's a simulation maintained by the combined powers of Remembrance and Erudition (possibly with the third aeon involved. If the third aeon is actively involved, it may be Enigmata. If the third aeon is not involved with maintaining the simulation, it might be an enemy instead, i.e. Destruction). I believe that this simulation might be running with a person--Cyrene/Elysia--at its core. This is the reason that Amphoreus only appears in the Garden of Recollection's mirror--because it was never a real place and only ever existed as a fictional location in someone's mind/memory. It also would explain some of the inexplicable elements the plot keeps bringing up, like Trailblazer's synesthesia beacon being able to work on Amphoreus despite the planet supposedly never being connected to the Silver Rail.
My basic speculation is that the person at the core of the situation has lost their original world, and is using the power of aeons to keep their world "alive" through a simulated reality. This invokes the lotus eater plot: Someone is intentionally "refusing to wake" from a dream, indulging in a fantasy to escape from a cruel reality.
However, I suggest that the person who is maintaining the simulation isn't trying to accurately recreate their original world. Instead, they're telling themselves a story. They're not remembering a real world or 100% real people--they're filling in gaps, piecing together different elements of truth and creating entirely new material in efforts to produce a version of the story that will finally have a happy ending. Rather than attempting to bring reality back, they're creating a fairy tale, combining jumbled memories, rewrites/revisions, and entirely retelling portions of the tale when something goes wrong.
This invokes the "allegory of the cave" plot. The person at the core of the simulation isn't seeing reality, but instead watching nothing more than shadow-play, shallow imitations of forms, acting out one-dimensional imitations of reality and accepting that one-dimensional re-enactment as their only "truth." The story we are watching as players is, in fact, nothing more than a story in-game as well.
This accounts for the strange skips between times, places where the plot collapses in on itself--events are occurring both thousands of years and two years ago, all at the same time--places where things don't add up (how did Tribios escape on her own?) and the odd clash of archaism and modernity (people still use stone tablets as reading material but also have cellphones with cameras). It also accounts for the "black tide" manifesting in ways that look like computer viruses--the simulation itself is being attacked and dissolving.
In fact, we could see the "black tide" itself as the way the story reconciles with reality--the simulation may be crumbling or failing (either internally or because of external pressure such as an enemy aeon), and that manifests as an "impending apocalypse" inside the story!Amphoreus as well.
Simultaneously, there's a meta aspect to the "allegory of the cave" plot: None of the Amphoreus natives recognize that they're in a story. They all think that what they're seeing and experiencing is reality. This makes them literal "allegory of the cave" participants. They stare at the false projections on the "cave wall" and are convinced that's reality. At the core of their adventure is the idea of "flame-chasing"--that is, they are spellbound by the flame that projects the false shadows on the wall. The prophecy is the chains that keep them bound, unable to look away to any other possibilities and discover the truth outside their "cave." This accounts for the fact that the characters' themselves don't seem to notice the odd discrepancies in their timelines (i.e. Tribbie handwaving Tribio's inexplicable escape and Mydei not pausing to go "Something isn't right here" about the strange gaps in his own backstory). They don't question the story--because they're part of it. (Anaxa, then, becomes the one exception, the one character who is trapped in the illusion but aware enough to tell everyone that they're in an illusion.)
But this creates a conundrum. If the characters don't follow along with the story and pursue the prophecy, then they might be marching to their own inevitable ends, because it is entirely possible that either all of them are already dead or none of them ever existed. Trailblazer and Dan Heng obviously need to escape the simulation, to then and only then find the "true" Amphoreus--whether that is a real-world hidden from us by the simulation... or whether there's nothing left to find at all. But the Amphoreus natives themselves? They might not have anything left outside their shadows on the wall.
Basically, Amphoreus is just the plot of Princess Tutu, is what I'm saying.
That's my tinfoil hat conspiracy!
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Just Soul Jams that I came up with
Light of Harmony / Light of Nihitly
Light of Wisdom / Light of Regret
Light of Remembrance / Light of Isolation
Light of Erudition / Light of Enigmata
Light of Guidance / Light of Insensitivity
Light of Patience / Light of Voracity
Light of Coziness / Light of Envy
Light of Gratitude / Light of Wrath
Light of Modesty / Light of Pride
If I used the wrong word, I'm very sorry, English is not my usual language.
I’ll keep these in mind!
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good lord. okay. talking about phainon & anaxa stuff because i am very enamored with them right now and they've pulled me back into my kevinsu brain worms
mentions of leaks, so BEWARE!!!!
i talked about the nikador time loop thing briefly in another post i made, with how the entirety of amphoreus May just be one big ass time loop in general - i still think that that could be possible, unless there's evidence to refute that (in which case let me know)
BUT ANYWAYS. nikador. the titan of strife. phainon. strife... destruction... we already know 2 out of 3 paths of amphoreus, that being remembrance and erudition. and as for the third, we're being left in the dark in regards to that right now.
the reason we even know about amphoreus is because the garden detected entities capable of being/on the same level of power as emanators AND because akivili was never able to travel their themself. (the garden pays no mind to normal pathstriders)
others have theorized the third path to be destruction, which makes the most sense to me given how much we know. if not destruction, then finality (you get it, hopefully) or enigmata OR elation (since amphoreus' existence within the cosmos had not been previously detected, so i assume there's some weird shit going on making that way. so yeah)
anyways, back to destruction, the amount of gold imagery and detail phainon has with him, not to mention that literal scene of him splashing gold liquid onto his chest, and him seemingly being the one to inherit the coreflame of strife (which i do not actually think he will, im so fucking sure something will happen and mydei will actually take it)
there are so many damn references to nanook the destruction just from him in general. plus the prophecy and regarding amphoreus' impending doom. with that being said, i definitely do think there's more to him, of course (he's a kevin variant, i mean, c'mon now)
he might be one of the entities the garden noticed - leaks mentioned both him and cyrene are possible emanators. emanator of destruction phainon?????????

BUT BUT BUT ALSO. PHAINON. KEPHALE. COME ONNNNN


i don't know anymore man. whatever. i hate him. moving on
ANAXA!!!!
i do not get how some people will still try to claim how he isn't a su variant???? like What. are we looking at the same dude
sure, their hair colors aren't completely the same, but so what? there's a shit load of other things in regards to similarities between them.
with the su/sa variant universe, there's them (su & sa), of course, and then there's vita and anaxa.




anaxa uses a gun..... su & star of eden...... anaxa leaked to have a tree in his ultimate..... su & the seed of sumeru....... similar hair, similar eye colors, the ring anaxa has is practically the same as the tattoo/markings su had on one of his fingers...........
GROVE OF EPIPHANY. A GIANT ASS TREE. SEED OF SUMERUUUUUU


do not play with me.
anyways if you've read this far, i am now ordering you to go read the second key manga. yeah. you heard me.
kevinsu tragic yaoi be upon YOU
it will never not fuck me up in regards to the implication that su kept a framed photo of kevin from their high school days that he said goodbye to everyday before work. bro. dude. man........ ok yearner whatever
#mya's thinking time#* leaks#hsr#honkai star rail#phainon#anaxa#phainaxa#kevinsu#i miss them dearly#please interact in hsr IM BEGGING YOUUUU#50000 years#im dead.
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post-3.3 phainon name theory
okay someone will probably be able to point to something that contradicts this because i'm going off extremely half-cocked. whatever. put this together while reading kit leaks and if it doesn't line up with what's been said, well it's not like hoyo is above retconning in favor of a cooler answer (or hasty rewrite).
spoilers for 3.3 story missions AND basically all the phainon leaks
here's what phainon's name is:
he doesn't have one.
not like he forgot it, not like cyrene and lygus lied to him about it. they're not being coy in the leaks when they hold back phainon's name. the entity underlying flame reaver and phainon does not have a name.
this is why erudition, enigmata, and the remembrance all care about him. he's not just imprisoned. he's been erased from history, his name metaphysically stricken from the records. This Man Does Not Exist.

end of 3.3, phainon kit leaks
he'll get a name by the end of 3.7, and they'll edit it into his kit, like they did with acheron's character stories. and this is how they'll tie it to fate; i don't know shit about fate, but don't names matter to heroic spirits?
#phainon#hsr spoilers#hsr leaks#3.3 spoilers#phainon hsr#i'm probably wrong but this is the EXACT kind of shit hoyo loves isn't it? isn't this what sumeru is about? i don't go to genshin.#and it has easy ties to going concerns in animanga like chainsaw man
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Ancients and Beasts in hsr, lore and gameplay wise!
Ancients:
Pure vanilla cookie: Lore wise, I think he would follow the Path of Erudition, in the Intelligentsia Guild. Being a teacher like Dr Ratio, his science being like magic, like The Herta’s. Gameplay wise, he would be on the Harmony path, a quantum weakness.
Hollyberry cookie: Definitely preservation follower, lore and gameplay wise. Idk what faction she’ll be in, but she’ll be a physical preservation.
Dark cacao cookie: Lore: the Hunt. Gameplay: The Hunt. Need I say more? Probably be a general in the Xianzhou Alliance, the two dragons being his spirit gifted by Alliance’s leader. Electric The Hunt.
Golden cheese cookie: Abundance. Literally. Lore and gameplay wise, SHE’S THE FREAKING LIGHT OF ABUNDANCE DAMMIT. Probably be set in Penacony, with her wanting to become the richest in the galaxy. Her gameplay will be similar to Lingsha’s, attack equals healing. Except GC will be Imaginary type character.
White Lily cookie: She’ll be in the Genius society, then rejoins after the witches fiasco. I originally thought, gameplay wise, she’ll be nihility due to her lore. But after thinking about more, she’ll be either on the Erudition or Nihility, being wind type. She’ll gain stacks after each skill is used by her.
Shadow milk cookie: Former Genius Society member when he was the Fount of Knowledge. After corruption, he’ll probably follow the Enigmata with the History Fictionologist, spreading lies and deceit all over the cosmos, or maybe the Riddlers? Despite that, he’ll be erudition, quantum gameplay wise.
Mystic flour cookie: Self-Annihilator, simple at that. “Everything in the universe is meaningless” that’s the first line of the Self- Annihilator page in the Data Bank. She’ll be imaginary nihility, being similar to Fugue gameplay. Before corruption however, she’ll be Xianzhou Alliance, being a master diviner. Burning spice cookie: Destruction. In his literal title. He’ll be in the Antimatter Legion, with fire destruction. His gameplay would involve taking health from the whole team. Before corruption, he’ll be apart of the Claratwheel Temple, a faction that follows HooH. Look up the faction if you don’t know what it is.
Eternal sugar cookie: Beyond the Sky Choir follower of the Order, before corruption she’ll be The Family in Penacony, The Iris family specifically, crafting a paradise of happiness. Even after corruption, she still crafts the paradise. Gameplay wise, she be Harmony for sure, probably ice type.
Silent salt cookie: The hunt gameplay wise. The Stelleron Hunters lore wise. We still don’t know what path the Stelleron Hunters follow. Previous a galaxy ranger like Burning Spice, now a a hunter of cancer of Cancer of All Worlds. Physical type character on the Hunt.
Goodnight ya’ll!
#cookie run kingdom#crk#cookie run#shadow milk cookie#golden cheese cookie#burning spice cookie#dark cacao cookie#hollyberry cookie#pure vanilla cookie#eternal sugar cookie#silent salt cookie#Hsr#Honkia Star rail#hsr aeons#aeons#honkai star rail aeons
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Prediction : the tragedy of Amorpheus
Welcome one and all to my theory crafting around the next HSR planet !
For this, we will use Black Swan's lines about Amphoreus and try to analyse and probably theorize on what Amphoreus' story will be about.
I hope that you pardon my english, it isn't my first language.
I- The story of the planet II-The three paths
I- The story of the planet
A- The state of the planet
First of all, we have all the flags abount an antiquity inspired planet : the name of the achievement, the planet's name and so on.
We also know that the planet is only accessible through "the light from the mirror of the Garden of Recollection" and that Akivilli never reached Amphoreus.
So here is my theory : we are going to use the Graden of Recollection's miror to go back in time to when Amphoreus existed/was in better shape.
The keywords from Black Swan are "reached" and that it "only" possible through the Garden of Recollection. We know that the Garden's task is to gather memories to make sure that the universe is remembered after the Destruction. We also know that their members can "freely traverse between worlds, unconstrained by physical limits." (Data bank ; Factions)
We have seen that with Black Swan and the dreamscape : she can freely go from the dreamscape to reality. So that means that they aren't affected by space. But what if they aren't affected by Time either ? Then, only people unaffected by time from the Garden of Recollection could access Amphoreus, and such Akivilli would have never reached Amphoreus.
This would also explain why the Astral Express would never need fuel after that : it would make it a timeless machine, that goes beyond time and space, a paradox. In a more darker turn of events, it could also be the planet's destruction that fuels the Astral Express.
B- The plot
Since the planet must be either destroyed or in a very catastrophic way. I would imagine the story based on the tragedy : the Astral Express will tell the people of Amphoreus that their planet is destroyed, everyone will try so that it doesn't happen but everything has already happened and it will end up destroyed. This mixed in with a "Fall of Rome" kind of context.
Why am I thinking so ?
First, Rome is known for its political history being a mess.
Rome and Ancient Greece are known for their tragedies. Those have usually prophecies that are trying to be escaped but ended up happening anyway. And by the Astral Express coming from the future, they would be the ideal prophetic role.
The japanese name for Amphoreus is Omphalos. And Delphi's was known to be the center of the world, according to the greeks. Delphi is well known for its oracles.
"Eternal Land" isn't used to be literal. Black Swan is a Memokeeper and as such believes that all "world will eventually perish, but they can live on in another way — through Remembrance." (Databank ; factions). And such, Black Swan would be basically using some dramatic irony (mostly used in tragedies) to mock Amphoreus' people. It is how we view Rome's Fall : there were the signs that Rome would fall, yet nobody could stop it.
The planet's destruction would be a political crisis from the three paths (a word of them ahead) with a stellaron at play. My theory would be that one of the paths would want to exploit the stellaron for power linked with the hybris theme (the theme that men always try to be as powerful as gods but end up punished). We could also link it to Cesar's deification signaled by a comet.
Post Scriptum : If the Astral Express aren't the one announcing the planet's destruction, we could have an apparition of the Omen Vanguards, Terminus' followers (since they "They are dedicated to drawing prophecies from Terminus's obscure words.").
II- The three paths
"Human behavior flows from three main sources : desire, emotion and knowledge" - Plato
Erudition - Mourning Actors- Enigmata
Erudition :
For the fact that Ancient Greece had an immense impact on today's intellectual (look at Dr.Ratio's design).
The Genius Society, Nous' followers, are already known to be quite prideful so it would made sense for the hybris theme.
We don't know Nous' creation and ascension to aeonhood. So we could have Nous' followers in that point in time.
"Knowledge comes at the price of suffering." (Fu Xian voiceline Chat : Third Eye) and so, following my idea, it would be the knowledge that the planet will end up destroyed/dead that makes the Trailblazer and the Astral Express suffer.
We need another path for the trailblazer
Mourning Actors :
Their performances are akin to greek tragedies
Like Nous, we do not know when Aha arose to aeonhood.
Despite doing greek tragedies, their philosophy is closer to Pascal's (“Distraction is the only thing that consoles us for miseries and yet it is itself the greatest of our miseries.” ; replace Distraction with Elation and you have it.). And Pascal also has some quotes about truth. I wouldn't be surprise if we see Mourning Actors get inspiration in Amorpheus.
Enigmata :
Purely out of opposition to Erudition, first and formost.
The romans were well-known to copy the greeks (even in their mythology) yet hate them. So Enigmata being opposite to Nous would fit the bill but also Rome could be replaces with Enigmata : taking history and changing it.
There is the sentence of erasing someone from History known in ancient history and it would fit the Enigmata pretty well.
Enigmata has been hinted through Gallagher in Penacony and Hoyo doesn't show us something just for the sack of it.
Enigmata could be seen as an easy antagonist for the arc. (And if we follow my idea, Nous' followers would be the one creating their demise)
Side note : Beauty is a path that I have seen mentioned in theories and could be (since Aeneas, the founder of Rome, is seen as the son of Aphrodite, goddess of love ). Though I have to say that it wouldn't fit with the idea of "balance" because it doesn't have a counterpoint.
Thank you for reading my messy theory ! Have a wonderful day/night ! (It is 2AM when I finish writing this).
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I'm positive that this theory has been put out there already but I think Amphoreus might be a memory (the original Amphoreus being destroyed) and I think the third Aeon presiding over the planet is Mythus the Enigmata.
First of all: Why is Amphoreus a memory? There's lots of evidence that can point towards this beyond its parallel arc in HI3 (and the fact they share a writer).
・When you catch Nymphs, they turn into emoticons which are described as "the remnants they leave behind".
・Amphoreus is only visible when reflected in the mirror of the Garden Of Recollection.
・The Black Tide could be some sort of corruption of "data" or memory.
・Aquila, the Sky Titan, has hundreds of eyes and in the description of the Empyrean Gaze it says "The heavens have eyes that watch the world, but just being able to see a lot is useless when it comes to seeing through deceptions".
・A major theme/mechanic is the ability to turn back time to help maneuver/access certain things within the area in question.
・The two Aeons we know of that preside over this planet are ones who's domains relate to the mind. The Remembrance and the Erudition. Going of this, I believe our third Aeon will be The Enigmata because:
1. The Enignata is also a Path that relates to the mind, it revolves around one's perception of the world and will tangibly impact reality to serve those alternate perceptions
2. We've been running into stuff relating to History Fictionologists a lot more since Penacony, Gallagher being the biggest example.
As for why Black Swan can't enter Amphoreus, she says it herself. She needs us to "pop" the "bubble" closing off Amphoreus from the Memokeepers. It's like how your phone becomes much easier to access it it's connected to public wifi.
Anyways feel free to discuss this or add anything else. I love discussion. Have a great day/night, mwah!
#honkai star rail#finis analyzes#amphoreus#I haven't done the 3.1 quest yet btw this all just 3.0 stuff#I'll add to this post if I find anything more
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