#tkk script

[skeletonshower]

🐯🐯🐯💥TIGER BOY💥🐯🐯🐯

[mariajmajesty]

To the anon who asked for my opinion:

They were selling fake merch two days ago, calling the show spontaneous and honest only to now call it scripted for the third time this month all because Jungkook didn't treated Taehyung as the main star (which he isn't). Now they are dissing Jungkook's mom

Nothing about this is new. They always take it personal when they feel their bias didn't get all the praise they think he deserves yet they won't acknowledge that Tae was on his phone, unwell, or remind themselves that he invited himself in 2 days before. They also like to pretend this dynamic of Jungkook being extra bratty is new when he was always like this with him, they just see more of it now when it's unfilltered and with fewer people. And for some reason this fandom can't handle the idea that maybe, just maybe the guys aren't as close as they want us to believe (if he had to found out about the trip by the group chat it means both Jimin and Jungkook didn't tell him) and it's okay to have other group friends or have different people you are close to than others. They aren't 15 year olds.

And no, the fandom and report accs won't call them out because most of them are cult members themselves or have followers who are. They will give 50k likes to the smallest bro like interaction while ignoring everything else. They will not gif certain interactions cause what was said in them embarrasses them. They will make hit tweets defending Tae's honor and right to be in a second show when there's valid reasons to complain about his presence but will keep their mouth's shut when Jimin's dad is being harrassed and Jungkook's mom is being mocked because it serves the narrative they want to spread.

Imagine if Jimin would have crashed a tkk show, complain about being in it, getting some "go back" comments and ending up enlisting with namjoon, imagine how the fandom would have reacted to him. So no, people are allowed to express dissapointment, question someone's personality or have doubts, and a lot of people are over with how the fandom never protects Jimin or Jungkook like they protect Taehyung as if he is the only innocent toddler with no self awarness in the group and not a 30 year old man.

[macchiatosdumptruck]

ALSO

The very first thing she does the next day at school is thank him for sticking up for her, so NO he was not "butting in where he didn't belong."

Something that the show did in the first two seasons that it dropped after s3 is the whole "Johnny is an unreliable narrator" thing. Or it at least makes it less obvious, since there're so many guys out there who legit think he was totally in the right for beating Daniel up for "stealing his girl" when the first thing Ali tells Johnny in the movie is to get lost , and she was perfectly happy flirting with the new kid and juggling soccer balls.

[dearweirdme]

“I think at some point Bh/Hybe started to ease things up (I think the ITS talk was meant to level the field.. a new start for tkk kinda). "

I hope you don’t mind if I ask a few questions. What do you think was BH’s reason for fabricating that conversation between Taekook on In the Soop? You mentioned that BH started to “ease things up.” Why would they choose to do that, especially when the group was becoming increasingly recognized worldwide, and there were more eyes on them than ever before? If, as you suggest, the company initially kept Taekook at bay partly because of South Korea’s homophobic culture and the potential disadvantages of being discovered, why would they decide to ease restrictions when those risks still very much exist?I know you mentioned that Taehyung and Jungkook grew up and are no longer careless teens, but why would the company even want to take that risk? And if they did decide to ease things, why would their approach involve staging a scripted conversation about drifting apart in ITS as the first step?

Sometimes, I also find your interpretations a bit contradictory. On one hand, you say Taekook were/are fully on board with the company’s efforts to hide them, which means you think they willingly participated in ITS. But in the same breath, you argue that it was manipulative for the company to exclude Taehyung’s interview, suggesting that he might have said something the company didn’t want him to do they didn’t include it. If he was a willing participant in the narrative, why would he say something that would require cutting out?

Finally, if hiding Taekook was done to protect them, the other members, and the company’s long-term goals, a decision you believe Taekook understood and participated in then why is there so much anger from Taekookers toward the company? Why are people upset with BH for keeping Taekook hidden in official content? As long as Taekook were able to love and be with each other privately, and were not bothered by the company why does it matter if their interactions were controlled or filtered for public perception?

Don’t you think that the frustration from Taekookers stems more from fans wanting to see what they wanted and fulfil their own fantasies rather than prioritizing what was best for Taekook? Is the priority not Taekook’s happiness together, regardless of whether fans are shown how couples they can be or not? Or is it about fans needing to know about the in and outs of their relationship? This doesn’t make much sense to me. If the company’s actions were genuinely about protecting Taekook from risks beyond their control, then why be angry at all? Shouldn’t the focus be on their safety and happiness rather than fan expectations?

Hi anon!

What the ITS conversation did was cement a certain boundary to Tae and Jk’s closeness. People continue to go back to that conversation as a reason for Taekook not being together. That’s what imo it was about. The so mentioned distance between them became canon.

Companies like Hybe think out what they show the public. There are complete teams appointed to thinking about members and the way they are perceived. If anything the Hybe audit showed that audience perception is a huge factor.. and that they aren’t against manipulation of that perception. With Tae and Jk being older and used by hiding certain parts of themselves, and with the fandom canon being that Tae and Jk weren’t as close, with still having some boundaries, I think Hybe felt safe. It’s also very possible that Tae and Jk themselves negotiated a different way of being dealt with at some point.

My interpretation isn’t contradictory. It’s just not as black and white as you understand it to be. I absolutely don’t feel that Tae and Jk were/are fully on board with being closeted. I think the choice they had was one of two shitty options. Leave your promising career of stardom behind for your relationship, or hide your relationship and keep going. Neither of those options would have been agreeable to them. I think on a rational level they understand the closeting, but emotionally they have struggled deeply. You can tell at times that they have. You can see pain and annoyance and anger in their eyes. I don’t think Tae necessarily said something to undermine what was told, but I think he might’ve been unable to sell it. ITS talk is very unfairly edited. It is unclear what the conversation or the issue was/is actually about and editors know when they leave things open for interpretation. Were not dealing with amateurs here. A professional team knows what they are putting out and what they can expect audience reception to be.

I am personally not exactly angry with BH for the closeting (though imo closeting is always wrong and will always be annoyed ). I am angry with BH because they are a shitty company that uses and mistreats people. BH set up another ship with Jk. Causing all three maknae’s extreme hate. I am angry because BH keeps allowing and pushing these harmful narratives. I am angry because they allow for the illusion of a queer couple (jkk) but not the reality of it. Had BH taken extremely good care of Jk and Tae, things would be different.. but they suck in many many ways that go beyond Tae and Jk as well.

[taehyungfirst]

what’s upsetting to me is that both jm and jk are so willing to toe the company line and make Tae look and feel like an intruder, cause it wasn’t just the subtitles that were weird, both of them kept telling him he was a guest even when it was clear it started to bother Tae and you can see his mood go down…

like have some balls and stand up for yourselves, and we know jk is chronically online so he knows how insane jkkrs are and yet he was a willing participant too…

we always say Tae can speak up for himself, and he did, but they still didn’t stop that weird shit…

just left a bad taste in my mouth about both of them…

and i know some dumbass tkkrs are gonna be like “Tae still hangs out with him”, and I’m like yeah, cause Tae is a good friend and wouldn’t ever make someone feel uninvited even as part of a script. like if this was a tkk show and the directors told tae to make jm feel like an intruder, he would have laughed in their faces.

More than making his mood go down, I think that throughout the episodes where the company ship repeated that joke thinking it would become remotely funny at some point after the first 77th times, he just got bored with it. Imagine you’re doing everyone’s a favor saving the show and you get this joke repeated over and over again.

Considering how they invited EVERYONE and then made it sound like he was insane when he expected Joon presence, how one of them loooves repeating the word guest but then reveals how they were begging the whole group to join, I just think everything about that show is eye opening and interesting about their dynamics.

[bangtannism]

Lol speaking of other shippers being jealous of what JK and JM have and blaming the company for why their fave pair don't have it, I recently came across a reel from a Jinkooker page, showing moments from AYS and captioning it "this is what a friends vlog looks like so the company didn't mind showing it" and compared it to those pictures where JK and Jin took a trip together or something and JK was carrying his camera around, and of course they made the excuse that "the company" is gatekeeping the footage because they couldn't hide how they were a couple😅

I laughed so hard when I saw that. It's really all the same arguments from different subgroups of the fandom, they all cry "Bighit is hiding my ship/Jikook is fanservice". It looks like it's solely a Taekooker narrative simply because they are the loudest and most unhinged, but really, all non-Jikook BTS pair-that-has-JM-or-JK-as-one-half shippers are keeping their ships afloat with this narrative. Yes, including some Vminies (I've seen this lot parroting Taekooker narratives when the joint enlistment of Jikook was announced, and mind you they are the same people who were also so smug about Vmin definitely enlisting together)

I know deep down these people know that even if it was their ship spending so much time around each other and orbiting one another, it still wouldn't be the same. They'd never come across as suspicious. Jungkook was openly spending time with Taehyung and there had been an uptick in Taekook moments since 2022 compared to the few years before then and not ONCE did I see other shippers cry about "Bighit forcing Taekook down our throats" or accusing Taehyung of being a "fanservice king" (those accusations were only coming from toxic Jikookers) and "feeding his minions" the way they've always accused Jimin and still do to this day even though he doesn't mention JK nearly as much as Tae does.

Jikook as a ship was on a little bit of a "break" and Taekook had Taekookers convinced they were doing a soft launch and would become official quite soon & not once did I see Jinkookers, Vminies or Taejinners talking about "Taekook is hiding my ship". Even during that time, still, it was Jikook getting those allegations.

No, what makes the Jikook ship so polarizing was never about the quantity of their interactions but always about that special chemistry, that special tension they share between them. And everybody and their mama knows this - the only difference is that most of us hate it.

"the company" is gatekeeping the footage

yes, yes, a very popular assertion. bh/hybe is apparently sitting on a mountain of tkk, ymn, vmn, and jnkk content. (side note, i usually do not judge peoples ships at all but jnkk .... brother eugh.)

It's really all the same arguments from different subgroups

yup. 🙃 everyone is weirdly obsessed with calling jikook fanservice because it hurts their feelings that jikook not only spend time together, not only enjoy the time they spend together, but also come across more couple like than any other duos. it MUST be fanservice that theyre acting like that! it MUST be scripted!! (the cognitive dissonance goes hard in some of these folks.)

It looks like it's solely a Taekooker narrative simply because they are the loudest

nothing to add to this, i just agree. there's more tkkrs than other sub-groups so of course we would see it more often from them.

there had been an uptick in Taekook moments since 2022 compared to the few years before then and not ONCE did I see other shippers cry about "Bighit forcing Taekook down our throats" or accusing Taehyung of being a "fanservice king" (those accusations were only coming from toxic Jikookers)

to be fair, the uptick happened during ch2, so it wouldn't make much sense to say bh was forcing them (not that some other sub-groups ever feel the need to make sense, but that's a them problem). tkk are good friends and had more time to hang out and i love that for them and i do think most jikookers readily admit that tkk love each other. fuck the ones who don't, because it makes them no better than the people they criticize.

No, what makes the Jikook ship so polarizing was never about the quantity of their interactions but always about that special chemistry

that's exactly it, anon. jikook is viewed as a "threat" to all other ships that have jm/jk in them and therefore they take the brunt of hate. they simply would not get the hate and attention they do from other sub-groups if people were not so hellbent on "disproving" them. (weirdo behavior fr.)

i saw someone asking what shippers actually have some sus proof and underneath the comment mentioning jikook, there were tkkrs trying to tell everyone that jk never wanted to be on ays, doesn't like being around jm, etc. you would never catch me behaving like that or even thinking like that, because it simply does not worry me when jm or jk hang out with other people. it reeks of jealousy and insecurity.

no matter who jm and jk spend time with, it simply will not be the same as the moments they have together. whether friends or more than friends, their bond and chemistry is just special and anyone who doesn't want to admit that is lying to themselves.

[peachjagiya]

Not to downplay jkk's relationship, but it's pretty discrernible in AYS how jk avoids jm's advances sometimes? Like when JK was changing his clothes and Jimin wanted to touch him, when Jk was cooking, in the boat, when Jm tried to touch Jk's hair, etc. And in the behind the scenes, the staff were saying how they were far apart, yet Jk continued to stay away from Jm.

I've also observed, although I think it's unintentional, how tkk-coded this AYS is. The skiing, the sleeping over and makguksu, the hanging out with friends (I don't believe Jm went skiing with Jk's friends, I'm sorry), the yacht one (Tk's Hawaii trip). It's like re-creating some Tk moments.

And of course, it's pretty obvious how some scenes were scripted. I don't know why the staff is heavily involved in the background. Unlike their previous contents, you can barely notice the staff, but this time, it's like the staff is trying to portray something more than what Jm and Jk were doing.

If I was a jimkooker, and I wake up every day glad I'm not, I would be asking similar questions to Hybe that we're asking right now.

We're irate that they keep diminishing Taehyung in their weird little captions. But are jmkooks not annoyed at this hatchet job? Bighit has the ability to simply not include footage where staff are directing them, where Jimin says he's just saying things for the show, where JK is saying "ok that's enough." But they put it all in? SURELY they have ample footage of Jimkook just having fun, right? Why are they trying so hard to make them look false in every conceivable way?

I wonder if they think it makes them relatable? Or feels more real? It's a swing and a miss though. Look what it's opening them up to. I'm mortified and I'm not even invested in the Jimkook pairing.

If this is a marketing ploy to capitalise on outrage then the poison runs deeper than we thought because they're apparently ready to just hang everyone out to dry for their money.

[starryjkoo]

At this point no one is surprised the company caters to all ships, esp a big one that has been under fire ever since Paris. They probably felt they needed to throw the cult a bone to entertain them before the comeback. Can't risk fans not sticking around when they got pockets to fill.

Yeah I mean I agree with you but because this conversation has become so convoluted due to tkkrs/solos I feel the need to clarify that no I do not think any of their on cam interactions are forced, faked or scripted, nor do I think they force certain members to hang around each other, nor do I think AYS had anything to do with the company pushing a ship (a show that was conceptualized and continuously pushed forward by jkk themselves) and in fact the majority of things tkkrs claim to be “company pushed fanservice” are just normal human interactions. It’s annoying I need to clarify that, but here we are (also not saying you were saying any of that anon!).

I’m sure BH are going to take any chance they can get to monetize this stuff, possibly might encourage popular duos or subunits (which obviously includes tkk lol, not sure why tkkrs think they’re excluded from that). Especially after everything that has happened in the past year or so, I’m sure that company is really desperate to have BTS back and to secure the fanbase by any means necessary. Although I obviously don’t think the BTS members will be forced to do anything they don’t want to do.

This whole animation thing is literally the perfect example of what the company pushing a ship would look like though. I wouldn’t be surprised if BH asked the animation studio to push a specific duo there, but also that’s pure speculation so who knows, it really could have just been the animation studio. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what happens when they return. But yeah I know that BH definitely wants to keep shippers around. That's probably why they let tk-lives keep their YouTube channel. They definitely know and see what’s going on, but shipping benefits them so…

[chevelleneech]

Now there's the whole issue with peopleg giving AYS bad ratings on purpose. It just makes me so sad, how Jimin and Jungkook can never be enjoyed as a duo the way the rest are in BTS. And then Taekookers (and some ARMYs) have the audacity to say the company uses Jikook for fanservice because they make money off of them as a duo very easily, and I'm just like "where??". For who are they doing all this when a majority of the fandom are Taekookers and ARMYs who prefer Taekook together the most? We see it with the views all the time.

I don't know when people are gonna open their eyes. It's not HYBE's fault that Jikook have the kind of dynamic they do that they (the antis) obviously notice but hate for some reason.

Poor Jimin and Jungkook. I feel so sorry for them for real. I don't even want people to see what I see in them as someone who ships them, I really just dream about ARMY reacting to them the way they react to Vmin, Minimoni, Sope, Vhope, Taejin and literally any other duo in BTS. I just wanna come across a Jikook video and not come across weird, delusional and mean comments about them all the time that dismiss them having anything that goes beyond a co-worker relationship.

Do you think it hurts them to see how much the fandom hates seeing them together, or used to at one point?

My main takeaway, that proves these reviews are being left by people who are Tkk shippers and nothing else, is how hard they are trying to word things so they sound like unbiased, casual dislikes.

I’d usually say they don’t view the members are real people, but using things such as, “the script”, “the protagonist”, “falling flat”, “forced acting” makes it clear they actually do, and are aware that they have to twist things into fiction to come across as more “honest”.

They have to use words and phrases that don’t ping as being unnecessarily hateful, but to do that, they have to paint AYS as a scripted/forced project. Because how do you unbiasedly say, about a band you supposedly love and understand do skinship with each other in general, “I don’t like that these two members specifically are interacting.” without it coming across as you being hateful of those two members specifically? You can’t.

They can’t give real Anders to how or why JM and JK seem scripted, because doing that requires listing all the things they do and why it is fake, without also presenting a case for why it’s fake for other members including Tae and Wooga. Because doing that would also require proving Jimin and JK’s actions have been fake this entire time, which is delusional. No one is going to believe that 10+ year long best friends are doing scripted friendship shit now, but weren’t in the last. Not will anyone believe for a second that two people would fake being best friends for TEN YEARS. No paycheck is worth that, when it’s not an actual fictional tv show or movie.

As for whether not Jimin and Jungkook see it and are affected? I don’t know. I’d hope not, but they have access to the same internet as the rest of us, and have proven time again they know what’s going on in Armyland. So I would say yes, they do know there’s a certain faction of this fandom who hates them being a Them, and they likely do also know how little is done on the overall fandom to stop it.

Does it affect them? My guess is no. They’ve been a Them for a long time now, be-it platonic or romantic, and they haven’t changed their behavior. They know people think they’re dating, they continue to act like they’re dating. They know people don’t like seeing them together. They continue to be seen together. They know people think their friendship is forced by the company. They continue to call each other best friends.

So my take away is, if they do care what people think, they have worked very hard on making sure it doesn’t change their thoughts and feelings for each other, whatever they may be.

All that said, it is incredibly fucked up that Jimin and Jungkook being friends is disliked as much as it is. They don’t do anything but love on each other and love on the other members, yet one stupid group of fans are loud enough to put such a damper on that. Those people need help.

[brimstone-cowboy]

I’ve only got snippets of TKK 3 draft script if anyone knows where to read the whole thing pleeeeease let me know

[irishhorse-blog]

I was feeling bored and I remembered how there were hardcore vmin shipper blogs once so I went through the vmin tag, and boy was it fun! I haven't laughed so hard in a while.

I came across old posts and they were talking about how vmin being dry all those months and taehyung not posting anything for jimin just shows that he's serious about his relationship with jimin and is protecting their love. they talk about him protecting their "unscripted moments" (ahem👀) and how Jikook enlisting together "solidified" their beliefs that there's nothing romantic going on there because of the stress jm and jk would have to go through having to hide their relationship.

These are the same people who made speculations just like Taekookers about two years ago saying they wouldn't be surprised if Vmin enlisted together because they always choose each other. And now Jimin opting to enlist with someone who isn't taehyung "solifidies" their beliefs that he's not romantically involved with that person and makes them believe in vmin more.

They are really coping hard. And not them adopting taekookers' narrative about scripted moments and fanservice. It's the only way they can explain away what jimin and jungkook have been doing with each other so they can feel secure in their unrealistic ships. Jikook really got people jumping through mental loops and being shameless hypocrites. Jikook you will always be famous❤️.

I've always disliked Vminies more than taekookers because at least with taekookers they don't disguise just how delusional they are, but vminies have always acted so superior and had a "us vs them" mentality, always referring to Jikookers and taekookers as "those other shippers". They'd pride themselves on not being toxic and using things that Tae and jk actually said and did for each other to prove their ship, "unlike those other shippers". Which- fine, I'll give them that. But it doesn't seem vmin have been as close as before for a while now and they've started to grasp at straws, sounding exactly like the shippers they think they are better than. I've seen a "big" vmin account talk about how Tae and jm forgot people were present and lmost kissed at tae's fansign event💀. It's not obvious because they are very small in number, but vminies are exactly like taekookers. And both sides really have no shame with how they are currently dismissing Jikook's companion system enlistment when in the past both sides made speculations about their ships enlisting together and even saying they are sure they will enlist together IF bts don't get an exemption.

I wanna give myself a day off and dedicate that time to just going through years old posts from vminies (it's a pity most of them deactivated, like that motherfucker who used to call themselves @vmindrift and later changed their name to @romanticdrift. I wanna post screenshots on X and make them blow up so they'll get dragged. I know it's childish and petty but I want them to be brought down from their high horse since they always try to act so smart and think they are better than other shippers.

Hey, you do you. We all have to have hobbies. ;)

Vmin shippers have always tried to hold themselves as if they were "above the fray," but at the end of the day, a delusional ship is a delusional ship. TKKs might be sailing the Titanic, but Vmin shippers are just behind them on the Lusitania.

[mysmorgasbordoffantabulosa]

https://x.com/PeachyJiminie17/status/1728685080975913167?s=20

Well they aren't really wrong are they? We've never gotten any such moment from tkk have we? Esp at such an imp time, jk is with jm for whatever reason we want to believe. Tae is preparing for his enlistment and jk is out there cuddling with jm. No wonder jikook is trending for the past 4 days

Expect a "special" trip shouldn't be a public thing in front of the cameras. It's almost like it's scripted/pre-planned... like nearly all of K-Pop officially produced content. That's why Taekook always seem to go on private trips and holidays, because it you are queer and in a relationship in a conservative none accepting country, then you're gonna keep it secret.

Yes it'll feed the Brimothys for a time, but they know and we know that for a relationship to be truly close then it's not gonna be about offical content and a little bit more behind the scenes and off camera, and only when they or the other members choose to disclose said moments.

Also, just because Tae is preparing (with a new haircut) doesn't mean the others aren't either. Remember, JK it seems is enlist next month too, as are it seems RM and Brian.

As for trends... X is so last year...

[dearweirdme]

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If the show really reinforced Taekook to tkkrs then why were so many tkkrs mad after the show ended? Why were so many tkkrs bent on calling the show “scripted” if at all it really reinforced that Taekook is real? I saw tkkrs complaining about the company trying to show that Taekook are awkward and also claiming that they painted Tae in a bad light but all these don’t look like what people who were happy with the show would do does it? I just think that if tkkrs really watched that show and felt like their beliefs in tkk were reinforced then they wouldn’t have been so mad at the show up to the point to intentionally twisting things they said to make it look like Jk didn’t want to do the show like how they twisted Jk’s words and claimed that he said he was angry because of the show, or how some tkkrs are desperately trying to paint Jimin as liar because he misremembered something that happened 7 years ago and corrected himself, or how tkkrs are jumping at every opportunity to say that Jk made it clear that it was a show (as if we didn’t already know that) just to end jkkrs even though Jk was actually the one who kept talking about how much he loved the show, how the trips were the best trips he had ever been on in his entire life or how he actually initiated more physical contact with Jimin than Jimin did (this is something people don’t seem to notice because of the few times he playfully pushed Jimin away) but he was the one who woke up and went to cuddle Jimin, was the one who started touching Jimin in the very first scene at the restaurant, the one who was touching on Jimin’s legs, he was the one who also leaned on Jimin’s shoulder while they rode the train, he was the one who also kept touching Jimin’s nape in Sapporo when softly. All the touches Jimin initiated were playful and “banterous” but Jk was the one initiating all the “soft” touches but people don’t notice this because they only pay attention to the fact that he pushed Jimin away when Jimin tried touching him playfully. If we were to count, Jk initiated touches with Jimin way more than Jimin did. If we were to count, Jk talked about loving the show more than Jimin did. If we were to count, Jk said things that shippers could be happy about more than Jimin did, “you are prettier than clouds”, “this is romance” “I wanted to come back here because we came here on our first trip” “ I really love this trip”, “these are the best trips I’ve been on in my life” yet people claim Jk hated the show.

Some tkkrs were so mad at this show they clearly did everything in their power to make it seem like Jk was miserable by intentionally twisting events or words. Jk says “it was an entertainment show and I entertained” how is that him making sure everyone knew it was a show? Didn’t we all already know it was? Didn’t Jimin also call it a show? Besides if he was so bent on slapping jkkrs back to reality why did he end everything by saying those were the best trips of his life knowing damn well how shippers would interpret that? One minute tkkrs are claiming that Jk is repulsed by Jimin’s touch because he playfully shoves him but the next moment Jk himself is waking up to go cuddle Jimin who is suffering from explosive diarrhea, or is leaning his head on Jimin’s shoulders during a train ride. How does this make any sense? One moment tkkrs are claiming Jk didn’t want to do the show but every 2-3 business seconds he is talking about wanting to do it till he is 50 or wanting to go back to the first day of the trip or talking about how he would be thinking back to those moments while he is enlisted. Would tkkrs feel the need to clearly twist moments like this if they actually felt like the show reinforced Taekook? Would you feel the need to call the show scripted if it made you happy? Also notice how no one of you claimed Jk lied or was just saying things when he said Tae being there made things better but the moment he said those were the best trips of his life, everyone of you said that he just said that. Why? Would you feel the need to do this if the show really reinforced your beliefs?

This isn’t me attacking you or your beliefs btw. I just think your words now don’t quite make sense especially considering how some tkkrs acted and are still acting about the show which according to anon, reinforced their beliefs. If something reinforced my belief I wouldn’t be mad at it. Just saying.

Hi anon!

It’s very different things. Although there are obviously Tkkrs who do get insecure about seeing Jk and Jm interact, most around here do not (I’m not on twitter, so I can’t speak on what goes on around there).

Jkkrs got mad because the people playing a role in their narratives behaved in ways that didn’t fit. They have a problem with Jk, Tae, and Jk breaking their imagined version of truth. Jk and Jm did not look in love and even spoke, repeatedly, in ways that directly went against their beliefs. You cannot have watched Ays and still believe in Jkk without heavily bending reality. The things they had to come up with were purely based on Jkkrs feelings, not on the feelings of vminkook. They got actually mad at Jk (like for real mad and kinda ditching him) for how he acted with Jm. Not because Jk did something wrong, but because he bursted through their bubbles repeatedly. They have to go against Vminkook consistently saying they love each other and say Jm and Jk didn’t want Tae there and despised him for it. That is so out of there and is in no way supported by evidence. In fact, evidence goes heavily against it.

Tkkrs however, were angry about the way the show was edited and promoted. We did not feel Tae and Jk were awkward, we feel the editing was done in a way that enables people to continue to say that. Making use of captions that, seemingly joking’ make Tae to be an outsider. After all Vminkook have gone through fandomwise, and after all the hate Tae already gets because of that.. how is that fair? It is not, and it wasn’t necessary for the show at all. Bh are assholes, for them a fandomwar is profitable.

Another thing that became increasingly annoying, is Jkk narratives.. which they spread loudly and unfiltered. Sexualizing Jm and Jk every chance they get. Romanticizing moments that were not that to the extreme. Making use of Jk’s supposed neurodivergence to explain certain moments he did not fit the mold. So when we go hard about the show being a creation, it’s to go against their idiocy. You can literally not go against the show being a production, because there is no way around that. It shows in everything. Some are more pointed about the whole thing being scripted than others, I think I am pretty mellow. I think there were a lot of real interactions, but I also believe some things are planned, things are exaggerated, and there’s fanservice going on. There are moments that show that Jk was preoccupied and especially during NY both Jm and Jk were unwell to an extent that they shouldn’t have been creating content. You cannot tell me that Jm having to do that hike while being sick is what he preferred to do. They push through, because it’s their job. That’s all stuff that we can argue by use of proof.

You have to ask yourself why Jkkrs have such a problem with admitting these things. Because AYS being created content should not be a threat to their beliefs. It’s never a threat to my beliefs about Tae and Jk, and I will absolutely admit that they do fanservice as well. The thing is though, without the moments between Jk and Jm that are clearly fanservice, Jkkrs have little to nothing to base a romantic relationship on.. and will be stuck with with what everyone else sees, which is a close friendship, but nothing more.

So no, not the same.. and it’s not our insecurities speaking, but rather our feelings about how production was handled.

[theangryjikooker]

Man i think you should be grateful that you don't get Tkkrs in ur ask cause jesus the mental gymnastics there is really something else. I saw an acct having 14 pages of "taekook being solo/rebellious" or whatever. Like call the show scripted and go what's with 14 pages?? Till ep 3 they were writing essays on how the show is ending jkkrs and they should admit in hospital and the comapny lied to them all this time by doing fanservice cause now it's all showing up but as soon as ep4 dropped they're back to their 14 pages as how company is pushing jkk and their usual. I mean at least jkkrs are taking not all but most jkkrs whatever jikook says at face value while with Tkkrs it's"if it doesn't fit my narrative it's bongo's doing if it fits then it's TK ending company". They are far gone than Larries bruh. Who knows jkkrs would go there as well

Lol it’s cute that you think I don’t get them.

But yes, I would hate to be a “neutral” Tkkr in Tkk spaces. I already can’t stand the unhinged Jkkrs coming at me, I don’t know that I’d be able to deal with a whole fucking fandom.

Because I’ll tell you what, I can unravel Tkk even faster than Jkk. Fortunately for them—not my monkey, not my circus.

[fruitgummies01]

https://x.com/pinkorangesun/status/1828078666414518379?t=l15VJWgWBbKmD4B7Qwqd2g&s=19

https://x.com/pinkorangesun/status/1828078666414518379?t=YaMI_IgI5O17mfB2CV85Jw&s=19

Imagine spending this much time over something you hate and call scripted 😭 The difference in them giving reviews to tae's friendification to them giving it to AYS even tho they don't stan jkk together.....like friendification has same or more skinship as AYS yet they insecurity is speaking here. Tae and whole wooga be cuddling all together all night while sleeping, tae giving cheek kisses to his frnds and all but that's family friendly and entertaining Lmao. You know it's tkkrs when they write thesis over thesis

Tae being so comfortable showing physical closeness with all his male friends is something that is so amazing. Seriously, it cannot be understated just how toxic gender norms have become, especially here in the US, so it is deeply refreshing to see someone just be who they are.

Just to add a different perspective though, when I entered this fandom tkk content seemed extremely centered in the fandom, the one that felt the most special and different. It got the most support, and to be honest, it seemed like jikook were the most distant. I can only speak for what I first saw, but because Jimin and Jungkook were off doing there own things working on their solo work and not being seen out together, it made it easier for them to continue with so many untruths. (I cannot imagine what it's like to believe something so deeply for so many years, and see direct evidence to the contrary.) Are You Sure is directly pushing back on the narratives that tkkrs have spend so much time crafting. People have eyes, and are seeing in real time what Jimin and Jungkook's relationship is like, not through fan edits, but through actual content that the boys themselves wanted to film. So in order to combat that they are living under people's posts to try and convince them otherwise, review b0mbing the show, doing everything they can to stop what they feel is a threat to tkk. Just the other day I saw a reactor reacting to AYS, and the comment section is filled with people commenting about how episode 3 is the most real, and showcasing the true special bond between Tae and JK, and that everything was fanservice. *sigh*

[peachjagiya]

Helloooooo 😎

Favorite Jungkook song? Favorite Taehyung song? Favorite Taekook moment? (Or top 3?)

Hope you have fun with it 🥳 best greetings 👋🏻

OOOHHH.

It's Standing Next To You for Jungkook. I have never skipped it. Just perfect pop.

Love Me Again for Taehyung and it's in my top 3 favourite solo songs of all of them.

My favourite TKK moment changes by the day. Right now I'm still lower-lip-wobbling over JK hiding his smile at the Dreamiere and So Pretty I Could Die. I'm hyperfixating on Ghost Taehyung in ITS and their post-scripted-reality chat evening of whatever they got up to.

Thanks anon! 💜