#vampire theory

[vampires-official]

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I wonder if there is like a vampire equivalent of food culture.

Like how Italians get upset if you break the spaghet.

"You're not supposed to snap the neck of your victim, not approved!"

[vampires-official]

Does anyone want to hear about the math I did to try and figure out how much blood a vampire would need to drink (if we're basing it off them having a similar caloric intake as we do?)

[thatgoblinjess]

I have a game theory for y'all. So vampires cannot cross running water right? Usually assumed to be rivers, creeks, streams, brooks ect right? But I have a consideration, sewers and water pipes, those are technically running water right? Can vampires cross those? Does the running water have to be natural? What about geoengineered rivers, could a vampire cross the LA river?

Much to think about

[the-real-keyblade-crafter]

If vampires feed you their blood to turn you, maybe the condition has something to do with gut microbes taking over whats already there or weakened by stress or damage, giving the victim a change in cravings to human blood. There's a lot we don't know about the gut anyway so maybe it also affects changes in muscle limiting and tooth growth

[magis-ghast]

I'm back into Buffy

Started from season 4 this time because the first couple seasons are pretty slow on the... Spike front... and I'm nothing if not a Spike fan

Anyway I think the way vampires work in Buffy is that the demon that possesses a bitten person has their own personality and morals and wants, and then they get the memories and emotions of the body mixed in.

So a vampire is a blend of specific demon and human, and their actions depend on whichever part is stronger.

Angelus is a very strong demon and the human was very weak-willed, so when he gets un-cursed he is mostly demon.

Spike, Harmony, others all have vampiric urges and twisted morals, but are ultimately driven by their human personalities.

So when Spike comes around to the "good" side, it's because he's learned to embrace the human part of him and overcome the base urges of his demon half, but when Angel is "good" it's because he's had the demon part suppressed behind the soul. The little pieces of personality aren't enough for him.

Now, it's been a few years since I watched it all the way through, so I'm proclaiming this all headcanon until I catch up and disprove myself lol

[123moiaussi]

SPOILERS FOR CASTLEVANIA NOCTURNE AHEAD!!!

So, I finished watching Castlevania Nocturne and oml it’s so GOOD.

Anyway, I was discussing with my partner what are the loose ends/ potential storylines for the next season.

Edouard

It’s left about open ended to where Edouard currently is. The ending of the season suggests one of two things.

1. Edouard has taken the forgemaster machine to Hell. This means that he can go to Hell but also manage to break out the abbey if the gang decides to open a portal to hell. They have the book and they have Annette.

2. Edouard is going to stay in the Abbey to get the night creatures to gain a conscious of who they were before they were turned. We know that Edouard knows who he is plus Jacques and one other night creature. I believe that Edouard could potentially repeat the actions of his previous life by creating solidarity between all the night creatures and potentially overthrow the Abbot. What this will also result in is a break in the creator- night creature loyalty bond and thus Erzsebet and the Abbot cannot control the night creatures, thus weakening their power. Also a nice little link between OG Castlevania and Nocturne is Edouard and the other night creatures gaining consciousness like the Philosopher night creature in season 3/4.

The Book

This is a bit of a crack theory but I do think the book connects to the OG series, so buckle up!

In the final episode of the OG Castlevania, Lenore and Hector have a very poignant and contextually important conversation about the direction of Hector’s life and his interest in not only forgemastering but also in vampire ethics and the sciences. Lenore suggests to Hector that he should explore the world and write a book which Hector agrees with.

Now, Drolta says in Nocturne that for night creatures to be made they need a human touch. The machine is implied to not have been built by the Abbot but to come from Hell itself. The Book also is old and includes instructions on how to open Hell as well as conduct forgemastering skills and seems to include lore around vampires and magic. It is implied that the Abbot himself doesn’t use direct tools to create the night creatures like Isaac and Hector. Therefore, the Abbot’s tool is the machine but he didn’t create it. Thus, the person that made the machine must’ve been a human that could forgemaster.

I doubt that Hector is undead/vampire but according to OG Castlevania and what happens in Season 4 there are two people that know how to open portals/get to hell: Saint Germain and Hector. Saint Germain knew because he was a time traveler and had a stone that allowed him to open portals/mirrors to hell and other dimensions. Hector probably knew how to get to hell due to his studies or his research with Dracula.

In conclusion, I think that Hector not only made the forgemaster machine, he also wrote the book that the Abbot now possesses. It’s the human touch that is required to make the night creatures. The Abbot potentially found this book in a church collection like Saint Germain did in the Season 3 or gained access to the book by making a deal with Dracula when he came back into the world with Lisa. Additionally, we know that the Belmont library could have also contained a book on dark magic as it implied in Nocturne that the Belmont family resided in France until about the mid 18th century.

These are some messy ideas but these are just a couple things off my head🫶

[vampires-official]

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do vampires just use their teeth to make a puncture wound and then suck, or are their fangs like a straw

i havent slept in three days

[vampires-official]

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Stuck on the idea of vampires as a kind of reverse fae, or like someone's twisted, perverse attempt at moulding humans into fae.

They're repelled by liminal spaces.

A vampire could never enter fairyland, not just because they'd never be welcomed, but because most of the usual entry-ways are naturally barred to them.

They can't cross running water. They can't be seen in mirrors. They will wait forever at a crossroads, unable to pick a direction to go in. They can't even step over a thresh-hold unless there is absolutely no ambiguity about whether they are welcome inside.

They crave human blood, iron and salt, but are repelled by herbs and plants. They are supernaturally prevented from harming you unless the rules of hospitality have been invoked.

A fairy may replace your newborn child with something unnatural and ever-hungry. A vampire will do the same, but with your grandmother's corpse.

The fae are typically associated, even in stories where they're the bad guys, with flourishing and purity. Vampires, even in stories where they're the good guys, are typically associated with decay and corruption.

The fae turn ancient human burial mounds into fancy halls for their courts. Vampires take ancient human castles and let them grow mildewed and cobwebbed, exchanging the beds for coffins, turning them into burial places.

Fae don't tend to live among humans, but can generally pass for them with relative ease if they so choose. Vampires nearly always live among humans, but tend to find not revealing themselves a huge struggle.

I can't think of many stories I've read where fae and vampires even exist in the same universe, let alone ones where they actively interact. I feel like their enmity is almost more inevitable than that between vampires and werewolves, however.

The rivalry between vampires and werewolves is, essentially, the rivalry between two apex predator species who share a territory. (Even in stories where the werewolves aren't actually hunting humans.)

The vampires hate the werewolves because the werewolves interfere with their access to prey. The werewolves hate the vampires either because they consider themselves aligned with humans (the prey species), or because they are also predators and the vampires are competing with them.

By comparison, I think there's some story potential in the fae finding something genuinely creepy and uncanny valley about vampires.

They're immortal, like them, but also dead. They can be beautiful, like them, but that beauty is something they actively require humans to sustain. They like to inhabit beautiful and ancient ex-human dwellings, like them, but they actively work to make those places dark, damp and empty.

Fairies who are unflappable in the face of all sorts of Otherworldly monsters, can look an eldritch horror in the eye(s) without blinking, and have never been phased yet by any human, but will recoil from even the weakest vampire.

Vampires who hate fairies just as much, but in a more envious way. The way that the creature for whom immortality is a curse is bound to hate the creatures for whom immortality is an eternity of sunlight and laughter.

Maybe their touches burn each other. Maybe vampires can't stand physical contact with anything so alive and vital. Maybe immortal fairies become ill from too much exposure to the undead.

Maybe they fight over the human population when their territories overlap. The fairy need for servants and people to make deals with, competing with the vampire need for thralls and blood to drink.

Just… fairies and vampires. We need more stories about them interacting.

[who-do-i-know-this-man]

Vampires and clowns are the same species. Environmental factors they experience during their larval state determine which they turn into. It's like baby alligators in a way.

[niccoguedes]

[its-placeebo]

the oedipus-complex is named after the wrong man, that poor guy was so mortified upon finding out he fucked his mom he gouged his own eyes out, this is why I suggest renaming it, you see the vampire lestat de lioncourt-

[vampires-official]

[ID: a screenshot of a tweet from user "Jessi Sheron makes mermaid comics" (@/JessiSheron) reading: "more vampires should have obsessive and weird hobbies 'I'm making a stop motion animated film out of bonsai trees, i've been at it since the 70s it's 3 minutes long'". The original user also made two replies, reading: "'i've been breeding parrots purely for intelligence, this is Arnaldo, he can do basic multiplication, he's my 5th generation african grey'" and "like you got endless amount of time to make weirrrd STUFF"./end ID]

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[mountainfucker69]

@ whoever is styling armand next season. for your consideration

(the lace is from this 17th century venetian needlepoint that i found by chance while looking for public domain patterns)

[hyohaehyuk]

Just want to remind everyone that loustat had their 1st time on Valentines Day. Lestat the last romantic 🤭

[vampires-official]

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I’m not super fond of the way vampires turn pale no matter their skin tone so here’s a proposal:

Colder tones!!!

This was loosely based off livor mortis which is the bluish-purple discoloration of the skin of dead bodies. It’s a result of the gravitation of blood but fuck that vamps are purple now

[nikki0514]

“I have a theory!”: Okay, this is probably not the first time someone has thought about this but WHAT IF the message from the PTB to Whistler that a vampire with a soul would help Buffy stop the apocalypse was actually about Spike and not Angel? It would explain why Whistler is confused of how things turn out in Season 2 and says “it wasn’t supposed to go like this”. It would also explain why Spike and Buffy are continually drawn to each other and why she has the instinct to keep him close in Season 7. I’ve always thought that some slayer part of her sensed he had an important role to play.