#within the context of Winick’s other DC work. within the context of Jason + Bruce’s character journeys. within the entire history of Batman

[vfx-batman]

In my opinion, UTRH is really Winick at his best. But a lot of its strengths as a story are coincidences which Winick never really intended (eg, Bruce telling Jason that a father avenges his dead son in Starlin’s run -> Jason coming back asking for Bruce to avenge him as proof of love. / Jason as the foil for 2000-2006 era grim-dark Batman, complete with imitating Jim’s plan in NML + Bruce’s in War Games, but consciously getting his hands dirty unlike the former + actually succeeding unlike the latter). Unfortunately, Winick showed his limitation in not planning for any future story. And Jason has suffered ever since as a character.

[phantomchick]

#before anyone takes this out of context. I love UTRH. it has issues but so does every great Batman story. it’s got a lot of meat to it +#I can endlessly revisit it. both as a standalone story + within its greater context.#within the context of Winick’s other DC work. within the context of Jason + Bruce’s character journeys. within the entire history of Batman.#Winick is great at dialogue + pacing + structure.#but he did not intend a lot of what I cherish about it + that’s fine - that’s the serendipitous nature of comics. parallels spring up that#could only have emerged from a multi-decade collaborative work where very few read each other’s work. when they pull something off anyway#that’s part of the magic of comic books.#more critically. he leant on the 90s retcons to Jason + cared more about doing a ‘fix-it’ of Loeb’s vision than setting up a character with#longevity. as salazar knight (youtuber) pointed out. a lot of Batman villains introduced post crisis suffer from this.#so Winick is not unique but it’s a testament to Jason’s appeal that he overcome that obstacle as much as he has.#anyways prayer circle for interesting + faithful Jason characterisation in the future. via @vfx-batman

In my opinion, UTRH is really Winick at his best. But a lot of its strengths as a story are coincidences which Winick never really intended (eg, Bruce telling Jason that a father avenges his dead son in Starlin’s run -> Jason coming back asking for Bruce to avenge him as proof of love. / Jason as the foil for 2000-2006 era grim-dark Batman, complete with imitating Jim’s plan in NML + Bruce’s in War Games, but consciously getting his hands dirty unlike the former + actually succeeding unlike the latter). Unfortunately, Winick showed his limitation in not planning for any future story. And Jason has suffered ever since as a character.