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You need both.

ok i think what gets me about the kind of post that's like '[children's media] has child soldiers, where are their parents!!' is that those stories really and truly aren't for people who'll think about that, they're for the people the children's age, who don't, for the most part, want to be kept safe or told they're too young to participate in the world, they want to be given a sword

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Beyond having misinformed and credulous people in their ranks, there is no serious similarity to AI moral panic and anything like GG or SP beyond them being very vocal in their prefered mediums, especially since the anti-AI crowd (IP maximalists not withstanding, since you also omitted them in this instance) is almost entirely a left-wing movement, while those other moral panics you mentioned were entirely conservative reactionary movements. Even comparing anti-AI people to Satanic Panic peddlers and GamerGaters feels borderline slanderous (and this coming from someone who isn't at all happy with their lack of nuance and half-baked ideology), especially in an era where those very same people who peddled in those two moral have essentially won this decade politically. If they really were just like each other, why haven't right-wing grifters latched onto anti-AI sentiment like how they co-opted free speech activism in the 2010s? If anything, neoreactionaries are far more likely to be extreme pro-AI than progressives, though this is admittedly more the vault of the shifting dominance of factions in the culture wars than anything to do with the underlying technology or even the industry (again, in spite of how Libertarian and reactionary Silicon Valley is)

I hate these moral panics too, even the ones led be well-meaning but Dumb Liberals, but at the same time, it'd be better if for once in this century, the winning side of the culture war wasn't the one backed by the right-wing bourgeoisie.

I think you might need to re-read the comparison. They were moral panics, and they've got grifters. Wherever you have people up in arms about something, there are people there to push it.

I didn't say they were just like each other. I said they produced a similar secondary economy of hate-slop youtubers and other scammers. Anyone can grift, riding and stoking the audience's outrage to produce clicks and views.

But they had other similarities too: the same willingness to lie, bend truth or just not do research in order to get a story, there's the 'the enemy is both strong and weak' aspect with is absolutely an anti-AI panic thing, there's the brigading, harassment & threats, the conflation of lone tweets by nobodies with the will of an entire group, and, most importantly, the fact that it's a money and power grab being disguised as astroturf independent of the grift-economy that goes along side it.

"It's different because its left wing" doesn't really fly. It's a moral panic, it's built on lies, and lies require liars. There's nothing left wing about anti-AI sentiment at its principles. It's reactionary and fear based and it's goals align with major media corporations.

And the grifting in the Anti-AI side isn't a hypothetical. Glaze and Nightshade's study data has resisted replication and they do not appear to work in any verifiable way beyond the lowering of the image quality. Artshield claimed to stop scraping, but it was literally just using stable diffusion to burn a SD watermark into the image so some bots would skip it, while ensuring that any system designed to detect stable diffusion watermarks would report the image as being AI.

It isn't a coincidence that if the anti-AI crowd got what they were screaming for, Disney, Nintendo, Discovery, and the rest would have access to the tech while no one who competes with them does. All their talking points just happen to mirror the ones from the Copyright Alliance and the ones that RJ Palmer spreads? Could be a coincidence, more likely the astroturf is real.

And as the right hasn't co-opted the anti-AI position for the same reason they did co-opt the free speech position: they were just reacting to the pick the strawman liberal had already taken.

And some elements of the right, like the Catholic Church, have been critical of AI, for the same reactionary 'soulless' complaints I've seen from supposed lefties.

I'd suggest going to my AI art blog @Deepdreamnights ' AI discourse tag., linked here for ease There's a lot of context to all this.

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I need to close $200 in the next four hours (it is presently 8:00 central), literally any help is welcome.

Things have been tough...

For most people, and I’m one of those. My rent has gone up, my alternator in the car has died (I can’t even focus on that yet, sigh), and this has been on a chain of setbacks and illnesses both with myself and my family. Energy and food prices… it all piles up.

On top of this, my depression (and covid fog probably) has been extra rough, keeping my freelance work slow.

Anyhow, I could use help and any is appreciated. I need $300 to make rent by the 5th and basic expenses beyond that. 

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[therobotmonster]

See, this guy gets it.

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I have 8 hours. Tiny amounts add up. Anything helps.

Things have been tough...

For most people, and I’m one of those. My rent has gone up, my alternator in the car has died (I can’t even focus on that yet, sigh), and this has been on a chain of setbacks and illnesses both with myself and my family. Energy and food prices… it all piles up.

On top of this, my depression (and covid fog probably) has been extra rough, keeping my freelance work slow.

Anyhow, I could use help and any is appreciated. I need $300 to make rent by the 5th and basic expenses beyond that. 

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you can tell things are bad when this type of article is coming back...

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I know the cult that I was raised in made the mistake, at least with me, of being VERY into 'the whole bible' and actually reading scripture.

Our kid's bible books were also illustrated by Basil "Fucking "Creator of Lena Hyena and Mad Magazine Staple of the Grotesque" Wolverton, so that didn't help.

Between the omnicide (the flood), the multiple genocides (Sodam, Gamorrah, etc) and the plagues of Egypt I was frightened out of my mind, which was of course the idea. Somewhere around the war-crime dowry of god's favoritest boy, David, that shifted from terror to terror plus:

That conversation didn't go well for me, but TLDR, the answer was 'yes.'

So I totally get where 4F (FFFF? Fury?, don't know what to call ya.) is coming from. I distinctly remember feeling hope for the first time in years when I saw Ghostbusters, because the idea of technology being able to beat spirits was a game changer.

The next Saturday, while I was sitting in a hard middle school auditorium chair listening to a sermon instead of watching cartoons like my friends, the only image in my head was this:

I mean, there's a reason all the JRPGs end like that.

OH SNAP THIS IS GONNA BE EPIC :D

[therobotmonster]

As someone once defaced:

L’avant-garde se rend pas.

this guy posted this video called “unethical money making hacks” and was like “i’m selling bullshit art!” and he was buying prints from kmart and covering them in joint compound and making interesting shapes in the joint compound and then selling it as “textured wall art” like sorry bro that’s just regular art you made art i know it feels like bullshit but you’re actually just making art rn

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You'll note that the immediate reaction of the DARE program to the studies showing it was to try and quash and suppress the truth.

Boy howdy does that seem familiar.

This is, of course, because the people running the DARE program were there to get paid more than they actually believed in their goal. They only moved on to other methods when it was undeniable and the choice was shift gears or find new jobs.

A lot more people in the Anti-AI side are getting paid than we know, and I'm not even talking about guys like Palmer. Moral panics bring out the grifter in everyone who needs attention to thrive. The Satanic Panic was big business for christian grifters, gamergate was huge for grifters, and the anti-AI moral panic isn't any different.

And while I'm here, the DARE effect isn't just hitting people using AI in "productive" ways. Seeing stuff that's AI assisted that's enjoyable, cool, or resonant has the same effect. A whole lot of "AI, ew, slop!" types in the Analogue Horror community seem to have turned around after Angel Engine hit 'em.*

That's just gonna keep happening.

Things like the Film Theorists deliver a hostage-video-message mid video to mollify the anti-AI types is also going to keep happening, but it will fade out over time.

oh right now that it's past midnight and i can post pictures again i can crosspost this from bluesky, which i will do now to start another wave of Discourse

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Brave Saga (Takara - GBC - 2001)

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The Daily Dæme is…

018 - Gamcorda

She enjoys watching, looking, observing, and the mall.

Features:  Psychic, Robot, Sentry

Quirk: Snoop

The Dæmomancer:  Video is just memories on magnetic tape. Information. When a Gamcorda decides to communicate that information, it is nearly always in the form of an attack, flooding an enemy’s mind with re-edited memories and experiences to confuse and overwhelm them.

Prof. Lyrica: Silent Dæmes are usually eerie, but there’s a peaceful serenity to the ever observant Gamcorda with her blinking red secondary eye, every one of them the director of their own filmed autobiography.

Warden Parks: They’re like robot ostriches with a spy camera mounted on their backs, and they kick just as hard as that implies. They’re also retro. That means they are easily mucked up by electricity or water. 

Sy Fife: Vitron Industries took those things off the market for a reason. They’re haunted somehow. There’s something in them that’s watching and waiting. I don’t know what it’s waiting for, but I doubt it’s good.

Dr. Entendre: Gamcorder 018-87. 1 m, 50 kg. An automated videographer device that instantiated line-wide, forcing shutdown of the product line. Gamcorda is remarkably stealthy for its size, and prefers careful, observant coaches. They can somehow communicate telepathically, using repurposed audio/video clips, despite being machines, but rarely do so.

For as little as $1 you can support Dæme-On and other projects, and get access to new Dæmes a week in advance, on my patreon here.

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$250 off and due today.

Things have been tough...

For most people, and I’m one of those. My rent has gone up, my alternator in the car has died (I can’t even focus on that yet, sigh), and this has been on a chain of setbacks and illnesses both with myself and my family. Energy and food prices… it all piles up.

On top of this, my depression (and covid fog probably) has been extra rough, keeping my freelance work slow.

Anyhow, I could use help and any is appreciated. I need $300 to make rent by the 5th and basic expenses beyond that. 

My Ongoing Gofundme

My paypal.me

My DrivehtruRPG shore. (d20 and royalty-free fantasy and sci-fi stock art)

Thank you. I am sorry to ask. 

[therobotmonster]

See, this guy gets it.

[therobotmonster]

$300 from where I need to be. Any help is welcome.

Things have been tough...

For most people, and I’m one of those. My rent has gone up, my alternator in the car has died (I can’t even focus on that yet, sigh), and this has been on a chain of setbacks and illnesses both with myself and my family. Energy and food prices… it all piles up.

On top of this, my depression (and covid fog probably) has been extra rough, keeping my freelance work slow.

Anyhow, I could use help and any is appreciated. I need $300 to make rent by the 5th and basic expenses beyond that. 

My Ongoing Gofundme

My paypal.me

My DrivehtruRPG shore. (d20 and royalty-free fantasy and sci-fi stock art)

Thank you. I am sorry to ask. 

[therobotmonster]

The Landing Site

Space used to be so colorful.

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Last Photo on the Roll

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At about $350 off for rent as it stands.

Things have been tough...

For most people, and I’m one of those. My rent has gone up, my alternator in the car has died (I can’t even focus on that yet, sigh), and this has been on a chain of setbacks and illnesses both with myself and my family. Energy and food prices… it all piles up.

On top of this, my depression (and covid fog probably) has been extra rough, keeping my freelance work slow.

Anyhow, I could use help and any is appreciated. I need $300 to make rent by the 5th and basic expenses beyond that. 

My Ongoing Gofundme

My paypal.me

My DrivehtruRPG shore. (d20 and royalty-free fantasy and sci-fi stock art)

Thank you. I am sorry to ask.