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11seyebrows · 2 years
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dean deblois: the hidden world is perfect for every species of dragon
john tellegen: the hidden world is peaceful when the dragons return, and the existing dragons celebrate
people, somehow: the hidden world is a disaster and the dragons must be killing each other
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11seyebrows · 2 years
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oh boy i can’t wait for people to start misinterpreting john tellegen’s tweet like usual
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11seyebrows · 2 years
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he can’t talk. it’s zoophilia. what the fuck?
I’m wording this carefully but that last ask got me wondering - in the modern au, if dracosexuality is A Thing, how would it be explained/rationalised to be…not the z word.
usually answering asks like this is very hard because i have to sort six different lines of thought into one, which is exhausting, but this one is kind of easy.
my answer is actually really damn simple: you can literally just say it’s not zoophilia, because it isn’t.
toothless is an entirely different species than hiccup, but he’s sapient. unlike a regular animal, he has human level intelligence and certain ways of thinking that separates him from them, and he can give informed consent to a relationship with a human. the point of this is that dragons and humans are on equal level playing field here.
which also means that the concept of dracosexuality would be actually problematic? in a kind of funny way though—at least to me. hiccup saying he’s not attracted to humans and he only fucks with dragons literally just reminds me of some unpleasant white women i’ve had this misfortune of meeting. if you want to avoid that unfortunate implication or whatever you can just say that hiccup is toothless-sexual. he only loves his dragon! 💖
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11seyebrows · 3 years
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there’s a weird overlap between proshippers and people who hate THW to an extreme and act like it’s a moral offense to god. that’s ironic.
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11seyebrows · 3 years
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I think Dean should write the collective HTTYD fandom a fandom-centric apology for THW's cinematic apostasy. I don't see why moviemakers can't start doing something like that.
I know sometimes we vent because we need to vent. And I imagine you might have seen my own vent/constructively critical posts for parts of the HTTYD franchise I don’t care for. But with all kindness, if you’re speaking seriously here, please rethink what you said.
There’s times for moviemakers to make apologies and there’s times to let things be. I appreciate apologies for situations like major representational blunders, oversights regarding real-world issues of cultures and minority groups, instances in which you fucked up the actors and crew behind the scenes, etc. At that point in time, your film has created a lasting negative effect on the public’s perception of people groups, and you’ve legitimately hurt people by perpetuating negative stereotypes, inaccurate ideas, poor work conditions, etc. Your movie has social consequences.
But if it’s a matter some fans didn’t find the story “quality”, didn’t care for several narrative directions, thought they botched a few plot points.... we can all move on. Don’t harass the creators over this, just move your life onward. Your artistic tastes didn’t match the creators? That happens. Everywhere. It’s life. It’s how the creation process happens. What are we going to do, demand apologies from every creator who makes a box office bomb? No. Goodness gracious, please no.
Even when creators wrote their heartfelt best, not every story will be a resounding critical artistic success that resonates with every audience member, and we as audiences are not entitled to that anyway. This is not how art works. Some things will just, fact of life, turn out better than others. I’m an artist. Sometimes my drawings look good, sometimes they don’t, whatever. We make our work, we share it, we progress to our next project. 
Frankly movies are more interesting in how they’re a broad range of “good” to “bad”, and how different viewers subjectively rate that “goodness” and “badness.” Sometimes I might even prefer to watch “junk” movies with their thirty plot holes and corny dialogue because I feel like chilling on the couch and not thinking and enjoying the comfort this level of quality brings. It still has enjoyment value, the creators have a right to make it, and no apologies are like...... needed if someone else doesn’t like the corn.
Does a fanfiction author need to apologize if 80% of their readers don’t like it, but 20% made it their favorite story? No. The fanfiction author wrote their art, potentially for themselves, and it still has merit in the community. The 80% of people for whom the story isn’t written can find something else to enjoy.
Cult classics come out of films where most people didn’t like it, but a small group did. Cult classic culture is awesome. We’re so blessed to have movies like these.
And like. For the record. THW certainly isn’t my favorite part of the HTTYD franchise, but it’s got a 7.5 IMBd rating, a 90% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes with an 86% audience score, and a 71 Metacritic Metascore with a favorable 8.0 user score. There’s 369 positive user scores on the site, 56 mixed, and only 13 negative. I get you’re frustrated and venting—that’s valid—but if we’re talking at any level objectively, there is no “Dean DeBlois fucked over the entire fandom.” There isn’t. There’s tons of positive reception. There’s just as much constructively critical reception from peeps who find and enjoy the good, too. This movie’s the trilogy’s weakest installment, yes, but even then, it’s sure better than half the 3D animated movies in contemporary theatre. And it sure as Helheim got a favorable response from the majority of people who saw it. I know we get in our bubbles in tumblr (which’s frankly half the fun! ^^), and I see a lot of THW criticism still, but we are not the full picture of fan reception.
We can constructively criticize it, talk about where it might have failed thematic elements in the rest of the franchise, and our feedback in reviews and social media is voice enough. In a world where social media shortens the distance between audiences and creators, we’re already living in a world where they’re impacted and listening too much to us... with baaaaad repercussions. Frankly it’d do the world good to reestablish more distance and boundaries between artist and consumer.
From everything I’ve heard, Norm of the North is a travesty with no soul. The Hidden World is a let-down for people who expected insubordinately good quality, but still got a decent movie. This isn’t a Fallout 76 fiasco where the company repeatedly delivered objectively subpar products that required multiple major technological fixes, refunds, product remakes, or other forms of apology. We need no apology from Dean DeBlois. We should not want an apology from Dean DeBlois. We are in need of maturation and are unable to handle a basic fact of how popular art gets made and received if we try to demand one. And Dean DeBlois has no reason to give one.
Moviemakers are not servants to the emotions of a minority of people who just didn’t like how a story turned out. Even if that story made plothole or thematic or characterization errors.
Take care and have a good one, friend.
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11seyebrows · 3 years
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Can I just say that I absolutely love the overarching theme for HTTYD3 (or one of several). The idea that with love comes loss but love is still worth it. It’s not teaching this fairytale-ish notion that love heals all or love is the answer to everything and with love all of your problems are solved. There is, of course, a time and a place for those types of stories but this…This god damn so-called animated children’s film is teaching the notion that love and loss are a package deal. You cannot have one without the other; it’s unavoidable, it’s literally impossible and that sucks but that doesn’t make love any less worth it even for the short time that it might occur. That is such an important lesson to learn over the course of your life and the fact that it’s in a god damn kids movie is so amazing to me. It’s one of the most mature lessons I’ve ever seen in a children’s film. 
That along with learning how to let go and knowing when to let go and learning that…you know what? Sometimes you really do have to let go of things/people you love…my god, I love this film. 
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11seyebrows · 3 years
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1. you talk about 2019.... when do you think they wrote it?
2. show me where he said love and having kids are “more” important than friendship. all i’ve seen is the crew saying it’s just as important, which it is, and that by having kids it shows that they have a new purpose now. do you want people to only have friends for their whole lives?
3. why would dean regret it, the actual critic reviews of it weren’t bad?
You do know The Hidden World is a movie that came out a year ago and there’s no reason to block and insult people who like the movie or harass the crew who work on the movie. We all need to be respectful about it whether you like the movie or not.
The Hidden World was a movie that, by the crew’s own admission, was about how romantic love and marriage and having children are more important than friendship. In the year 2019 -- with Nazis running rampant, among a thousand other things -- it insisted that activism and the fight for change, for a better world, was not only futile, but selfish and childish. 
I don’t advocate for harassing anyone, and if you’re going to air your complaints to the people behind this film, for the love of god, do them civilly.  THAT SAID.
Dean DeBlois is a wealthy gay man in a loving, legally recognized marriage who owes absolutely everything in his life to the people, the ideology, the beliefs he spent $129 million spitting on. 
I want him to be an old man, propped up in bed and looking back on his life, and feel regret for this.
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11seyebrows · 5 years
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If anyone has a link to the English dub of Homecoming I’ve seen floating around, PLEASE send it to me. I’ll be forever indebted to you.
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11seyebrows · 5 years
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i just found some of axonmanage’s stuff on youtube and it literally made me CRY. i wish they would’ve just left tumblr instead of deactivating bc i would love to see the rest of their work :(
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11seyebrows · 5 years
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at first i was like... “no that’s not art that’s....a stranger mission.... wait...”
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My girls hit the Western Trail 
Red Dead Redemption is just so damn good, I couldnt help it but to get inspired!
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11seyebrows · 8 years
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Reblog If You Can Take Off Your Bra Without Taking Your Shirt Off.
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11seyebrows · 8 years
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Characters of Jurassic World
↳ Rexy 
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