26thwinter

[26thwinter]

monsta x & monbebe: got me in chains

the house overlays are pretty nice but the aspects themselves are kind of... combative? but then again i should have seen this coming considering bebes' and mx's dynamic lol.

starting with the overlays we have mx's sun, mercury, and mars in bebe's 11th house. i mentioned before that bebe needs to activate 11th house things as a way to relinquish herself from the cycle that traps her. he illuminates the path and shows her the way out. however, this can go awry fast because if she clings onto him too much for opening the door instead of stepping through the door herself, she'll end up getting trapped again.

on the other hand, we have bebe's mars and jupiter along with sun and mercury in mx's 1st and 2nd house, respectively. she energizes him, supports him, and encourages him to grow. her moon being in his 7th house, the house of the partner which also holds his neptune, his dreams, quite literally means that everything he does, he does for her happiness.

looking at the aspects between the personal planets, you can already tell that monbebe and monsta x's relationship is very heated lol. his sun is square her moon, while her sun is opposing his moon. meanwhile, both mars are square to each other 😭 the two definitely butt heads, but the funny thing is that their mercuries are trine to each other; they're usually both on the same page, and don't take anything to heart lmfao 🤣

if i were to say which one likes the other one more, i think monsta x likes monbebe more. monbebe is naturally a more critical person (virgo mars and jupiter hello), so she's good at assessing the quality of things and tells him whether or not she likes what he's doing. monsta x is more... devoted in comparison. her existence along drives him (mars trine sun), and he wants to be with her for a long time (moon trine saturn). their jupiters and venuses are also in aspect to each other. mx's venus is sextile bebe's jupiter, so there are times when she gets bouts of inspiration from him that will point out things they didn't know about each other. on the other hand, bebe's venus is conjunct mx's jupiter, so she's more of a continuous muse, but the inspiration is stronger, with more force. he's definitely more obsessed with her than she is with him.

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monbebe: whispers in the dark

monbebe has a reputation for being loud, passionate, and a little carnal (aries mc), but when you look at monbebe herself, she's actually more complicated than what meets the eye. my first impression of this chart was that this person has a lot of underlying issues that they need to address (she has a whopping 3 t-squares in their natal chart!).

i want to talk about what i think is the most important t-square: moon opposing mars with saturn as the focal planet.

her aquarius moon is in the 8th house. instead of allowing herself to feel her emotions, her immediate reaction is to dissociate from it, separating her heart from her body, and chasing material order instead (virgo mars in 2nd house). she hides her emotions, stashes them away in a dark place, and directs her energy outward instead. mars in virgo is all about methodical action. she collects, cleans, and rearranges her physical belongings in pursuit of satisfaction. the key player in this t-square, saturn in sagittarius, lies in the 5th house of pleasure. saturn gives structure to the topics of the 5th house, resulting in organized play aka fandom activities. through participating in fandom, saturn brings moon and mars to face each other. the inquisitive child and the strategist warrior have a synergy in which the child gives the warrior a reason to fight, and the warrior gives the child a means of survival. saturn is also sextile to sun in libra, which acts as the benefactor. however, sun is fallen in libra, so this t-square is what gives her a sense of purpose, even though it's a vicious cycle. kind of like sisyphus.

what we have is a fascinating combination of a girl who doesn't know who she is, but knows what she wants and how to get it. while this is definitely a conflicting combination, hope is ultimately what this t-square boil down to, and the lesson that monbebe's sagittarius saturn is trying to teach her. the missing leg of the t-squares is in the 11th house of aspirations, society, and fulfillment. she needs to look beyond satisfying herself, and understand the wonder of being alive on earth. only then will she find her place, her reason for existing, and ultimately start living for a greater purpose other than material pleasures. whoever wrote whispers in the dark was scarily on point lmao

[26thwinter]

monsta x: honest, hard working, and full of heart

i feel like doing a group natal reading for monsta x is kinda redundant considering how much personality typing content there is for the members throughout the years lol. but i wanted to do separate natal chart readings first so that i can comprehensively analyze monsta x and monbebe's synastry.

monsta x is a group known for their strong characters. you don't have to ask who they are - they will show you. their sun, mercury, and mars lie in the 10th house of reputation. the selves they present in front of the camera is about 80% of their true selves. they have a leo rising and taurus mc - they're a team known for their distinct style and star power, and they constantly strive to be a strong and reliable team that always deliver quality results.

there is an interesting chain of aspects that shows mx's general dynamic. starting from their mars opposite saturn (4th house), the reason why they got to where they are is because they are well aware of their painful past. saturn then squares neptune in the 7th house of other, which i think represents monbebe; the root of their disagreements is ultimately how to make bebes happy. neptune also squares mercury in 10th, letting their arguments surface in front of the camera. however, they never let disagreements get the better of them because in the end, their love for each other (pisces moon which sextiles mars and saturn) and love for monbebe (cancer venus which sextiles neptune) drives them towards the same dream.

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shownu: prince charming who doesn't know he's the male lead

in shownu's bazi, he has the auspicious star combination of the three gentlemen, but it's in reverse order, meaning that the talent and blessings are there, but shownu doesn't wield it with intention 🤣

this is consistent with this western astrology natal chart. his taurus mars is conjunct his taurus ascendent, but it's in the 12th house. his masculinity is apparent in his physique, but it's subdued in his personality. mars, which rules anger, aggression, sex, is absent from shownu's general disposition. this isn't to say that he doesn't get mad, or is a pushover in any way; rather, he's just not very intimidating lol. it's a part of the reason why he's so popular with women - he's manly in a way that doesn't make them feel uncomfortable or burdened.

another aspect i find interesting is the easy opposition between mercury and neptune/uranus, with pluto as the buffer planet. as we all know, shownu isn't the type to talk a lot, but he still has ideas and what he needs to say. with pluto as the buffer planet in the 7th house, people seem get what he means and give him the benefit of the doubt even when he can't communicate his intentions effectively. it's like, rather than him moving to clear up any miscommunication, other people move around him, and it ends up working in his favor.

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minhyuk: air grand trine

minhyuk was literally born to be an entertainer - he has an air grand trine composed of his gemini moon, libra venus, and aquarius saturn. this means that he has an effortless talent for things like communication, logic, and social harmony. this placement is at the forefront of minhyuk's character, as it's one of his most distinguishing features as a member of monsta x.

his gemini moon is in the 9th house of philosophy and discovery, so he loves a good discussion/debate, and learning new things (entp tingz 🤪). his libra venus is in the first house, and also conjunct his libra ascendent, giving him an affinity for the arts. venus also beautifies his face, giving him softer, prettier features.

his aquarius saturn is a placement that is less obvious, but arguably one of the most important ones in regards to minhyuk's success as an entertainer. saturn is the planet of conventions, and aquarius is anything but. with this planet in the 5th house of fun and entertainment, minhyuk is very much aware of what the conventions are of the showbiz world, but he will find the most fulfilling rewards when he challenges those conventions. contrary to what others might say, one of the reasons why monsta x managed to maintain their staying power is because minhyuk did his part to promote mx in front of the the general public. he didn't limit himself to programs only geared towards idol fans; he went on mainstream broadcasts with a wider audience demographic. witty, handsome, and not afraid to make fun of himself, minhyuk is a gem for variety show casting directors. whether it's hosting or guesting, he'll do well in any program.

i think an interesting manifestation of this grand trine, at least in the recent landscape of kpop, is minhyuk's ability to keep up with trends. he knows most of gen z memes, and how to use them without looking like a boomer. gemini moon quickly learns it, aquarius saturn dissects it, and his libra venus gives him the grace to pull it off.

with these three planets working together with uninhibited ease, minhyuk is both a cherished member of mx and solid entertainer in his own right. now that he's back from the military, let's look forward to more promotional activities from our beloved puppy 🐶 🫶

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also on that note there is a popular blog on here that does readings for monsta x that i Do Not Like their content is full of clickbaity bullshit they have no care nor compassion for the members so their inaccurate and irrelevant readings only feed people's twisted assumptions about mx

[26thwinter]

changkyun pulled the lovers card during his tarot reading? fork found in kitchen??

[26thwinter]

kihyun, hyungwon, & changkyun: moon opposite chiron

something i noticed is that monbebe that bias either kihyun, hyungwon, or changkyun tend to also bias one of the other two 🤣 my theory is that those monbebe are drawn to the emotional complexity of these three members. there is an aspect all three have in common: moon opposite chiron; the child is at odds with the wounded healer. trauma doesn't heal as effectively, resulting in people who are emotionally closed off, and shy away from being vulnerable with others.

the most obvious example of this is changkyun. the shyest out of the members, he's mentioned before that he pushes people away out of fear of getting hurt. changkyun's moon-chiron opposition actually forms a t-square with his mercury. with mercury as the focal planet, he spends a lot of time in his head thinking about his emotions, his trauma, and why everything keeps happening to him. think of a t-square as a bow, with the focal planet being the force pulling back the string. what is the trigger that will release the arrow and relieve the tension? we look for harmonic aspects to the focal planet. for changkyun, he has saturn sextile and neptune conjunct his mercury. he has to learn how to heal the hard way, face his demons and grow as a person. simultaneously, he must maintain faith in the world and the universe, while continuing to express himself through his art. music is catharsis for him. if he were to show people his wounds, would he be embraced with open arms?

someone you wouldn't really expect to have these kinds of struggles is kihyun. he's known for his fiery energy and robust stamina. this is because that is exactly what he wants you to see. kihyun's moon-chiron opposition also forms a t-square, but it's with his mars, the planet of violence, aggression, and getting what you want. kihyun burns through any troubles that he has and uses it as fuel to make him shine brighter and brighter so that you can't see his pain. unlike changkyun, kihyun doesn't have a "release." the danger of mars is always there, but that doesn't mean that he's perpetually violent - quite the opposite in fact. kihyun has buffers that ease the tension between his moon and chiron, most noticeably mercury. he also spends time thinking quietly on his own, but he doesn't drown in obsession like changkyun does. with his razor sharp mind, he's able to get to the bottom of things pretty quickly (but that doesn't mean he won't be devastated by what he finds. he just doesn't let it overwhelm him). his moon makes additional harmonic aspects with venus and jupiter, which allows him to maintain warmth and generosity in his inner world.

hyungwon is the only one out of the three that doesn't have a t-square formation with his moon-chiron opposition. he simply has one benefic planet acting as a buffer - jupiter. instead of pouring himself into creating art, or burning energy to fight, hyungwon simply lets everything be. everything will sort itself out eventually, he just needs to do his best in the given moment. in those episodes of monmukgo, he and kihyun were playing games to dispell any rumors that one was better than the other. kihyun, in his typical style, was trying hard and winning the first couple of rounds. however, hyungwon as the one that eventually won overall. he and kihyun actually have their moon and chiron in the same sign - pisces and virgo, respectively - but they have vastly different approaches to their shared problem. hyungwon has a reputation for being "lazy," but he's really just facing the tides of life. if the waves get him, so be it. if they don't, that's fine too. all he needs to do is to keep his mind intact, and move with intention, and everything else will fall into place.

so monbebe who stan any two out of these three members are probably struggling with similar issues, but instead of facing it on their own, they're living vicariously through mx 🤣

[26thwinter]

the beauty of monsta x - changkyun

scorpio rising - *insert kermit looking around meme* was anyone surprised?

ascendant trine venus - despite having the most masculine features out of the mx members, changkyun also has a romantic aura to him. it's very easy to project onto him, so oftentimes people either get the wrong idea about him or like him for the wrong reasons.

ascendant square mars - in the same thought, some people also might think that he's too cold or fierce. fixed air mars and fixed water ascendant in hard aspect is like freezing air crashing against ice. this gives him a stoic expression and steely gaze.

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the beauty of monsta x - jooheon

cancer rising - it's no surprise that the two members with round cheeks are both speculated cancer risings lol. not to mention that they're both emotional F types lol.

ascendant conjunct mars - jooheon is known for his explosive star power which can be attributed to his leo mars in his 1st house. jooheon also has beady eyes, which, depending on the circumstance, can help him look like a blessed baby that radiates purity and innocence, or a ferocious tiger with killer instinct.

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the beauty of monsta x - hyungwon

cancer rising - hyungwon's full and soft cheeks are a dead giveaway of him being a cancer rising. i also think that his emotions are easily seen on his face - he can't hide how he feels even if he wants to lol.

ascendant trine pluto - this planet gives hyungwon a sort of sickly handsomeness. it may not be obvious because he's far from gaunt, but he looks like he's always on the verge of getting a cold.

ascendant opposite sun, venus, mercury - due to the way he looks, people tend to underestimate hyungwon and think that there's not much behind his face, but he's actually a very deep person. his sun, venus, and mercury are all in capricorn, which kind of gives him the personality of an experienced old man 🤣

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the beauty of monsta x - kihyun

scorpio rising - kihyun's ascendant is the only confirmed one in mx. even though he may not seem like it because he's extraverted, if you look at how dense his muscles tend to be, how his brows furrow and lips frown when he's concentrating, and how terrifyingly sharp his intuition is, he's definitely a scorpio rising.

ascendant conjunct sun - kihyun's personality is at the forefront of his mask when interacting with the world. it's obvious in how he shines on stage, as well as in everyday life in how he can never sit still. the intensity of scorpio combined with the brightness of the sun results in a restless energy that manifests in kihyun's physicality. he's constantly moving and pushing.

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the beauty of monsta x - minhyuk

libra rising - minhyuk's social sense is the biggest reason why i pegged him as a libra rising. with his mcing skills, interpersonal skills, and ability to read the room, minhyuk is incredibly in tune with the vibe of people around him. the visual weight is also evenly spread throughout his face, which gives him a symmetrical beauty.

ascendant trine moon - the moon further softens minhyuk's already feminine features. his emotions also seem to play a large part in how he orients himself and interacts with people. they tend to feel comfortable with him because they assume he's on the same wavelength as them. this gives him a "guy friend" vibe.

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the beauty of monsta x - shownu

taurus rising - shownu gives off a reliable impression, with a simple mind and grounded handsomeness. his papa bear image can be attributed to his taurus rising. not to mention his love of food!

ascendant trine jupiter - jupiter makes him seem bigger than he actually is. people seem to think that he's this huge muscly guy, but he's actually more slender in real life. jupiter also grants him an open and inviting aura, which can make people let their guard down in front of him.

juno in 1st house - husband vibes. that's it. that's the tweet.