going by Nicc 23, they(/it) SMG4 alt of mine, main is @niccerooniererer, modern era enjoyer,I psychoanalyse characters for the funsies, I draw and write and speak in deranged ways and put the characters in outfits for the sillies if you ask me to stop I'll cry [CURRENT EVENTS]: god fuck just let me finish this stupid ass hitshow fic before they continue the lore plot pls pls pls pls pls
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for those who care, I got it down to 63 mbs somehow
wood texture that used to be present 900 times across materials is now only present 9 times
I did see Toomp release and was thinking of doing something because I did have this render idea but also I'm. locked into something else which involves a rather heavy map that FOR SOME STUPID FUCKING REASON HAS 2176 SEPARATE MATERIALS
save me 😭
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sitting here, smiling to myself rereading this as more ideas comes to mind
ohhhh what if I REALLY wrote this..... w the relationship arc too ahhhhhhgghhhh
I mean I AM a. sucker for hurt comfort n can't have another fic where Puzzles kills herself
man what if someone wrote this super super angsty gunshow (though honeslty more about their relationship and less about romance) fanfic where Puzzles goes through the thinking on how he can make his besties be his besties again and he comes to conclusion that he needs to change but he does this in a really painful way in that it's. it's just bad for him and it time and time again highlights all his insecurities, maybe would include some body horror as he tries to like, reprogram himself, trying so so many things
and it getting to a very much self destructive point like. physically. like he's ruining himself
and so he's in this alley, an absolute mess, honestly barely even conscious as he's exhausted from all that he tried and like WPNZ and Toomp while walking around would find him and yknow
anger fills WPNZ but he's like. grown. he's better than to beat up someone who is already beaten enough
n it would begin to like rain and they would be like. okay maybe a little kindness and would pull him to shelter and leave
and then a Puzzles later awaking from the exhaustion induced sleep feeling sort of warm like something magical happened or whatever
god it's so hard to exactly put down the themes I'm trying to get across here ahhhhhh like it is kinda gay but you wouldn't get it based on this description n Idk how to like convey it better cuz like. it's also just not direct
it's like the feeling of like, with WPNZ bc with Puzzles it's obviously "I'd ruin myself beyond death for another chance with you" which. yes
while with WPNZ it's like "I hate you. I hate what you did. because I enjoyed it so much. sometimes I fantasize about a world where you meant everything and I mourn what I never even had. And yet when I see you, I can't help but feel some sweetness in the bitter image you give me. I hate that I don't want to see you go despite everything, or if I'll see you go, it WILL be by my own hands and not by you taking it out on yourself"
like a bit of "I want you dead not by you but by me only" if you will
which is of course an ever evolving picture........ that to where it may lead
to at some point maybe a "I'm willing to be hurt by you again but if you do you will not survive"
whatever it's so late for me I'm big yap
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man what if someone wrote this super super angsty gunshow (though honeslty more about their relationship and less about romance) fanfic where Puzzles goes through the thinking on how he can make his besties be his besties again and he comes to conclusion that he needs to change but he does this in a really painful way in that it's. it's just bad for him and it time and time again highlights all his insecurities, maybe would include some body horror as he tries to like, reprogram himself, trying so so many things
and it getting to a very much self destructive point like. physically. like he's ruining himself
and so he's in this alley, an absolute mess, honestly barely even conscious as he's exhausted from all that he tried and like WPNZ and Toomp while walking around would find him and yknow
anger fills WPNZ but he's like. grown. he's better than to beat up someone who is already beaten enough
n it would begin to like rain and they would be like. okay maybe a little kindness and would pull him to shelter and leave
and then a Puzzles later awaking from the exhaustion induced sleep feeling sort of warm like something magical happened or whatever
god it's so hard to exactly put down the themes I'm trying to get across here ahhhhhh like it is kinda gay but you wouldn't get it based on this description n Idk how to like convey it better cuz like. it's also just not direct
it's like the feeling of like, with WPNZ bc with Puzzles it's obviously "I'd ruin myself beyond death for another chance with you" which. yes
while with WPNZ it's like "I hate you. I hate what you did. because I enjoyed it so much. sometimes I fantasize about a world where you meant everything and I mourn what I never even had. And yet when I see you, I can't help but feel some sweetness in the bitter image you give me. I hate that I don't want to see you go despite everything, or if I'll see you go, it WILL be by my own hands and not by you taking it out on yourself"
like a bit of "I want you dead not by you but by me only" if you will
which is of course an ever evolving picture........ that to where it may lead
to at some point maybe a "I'm willing to be hurt by you again but if you do you will not survive"
whatever it's so late for me I'm big yap
#nicc-thinks#gunshow#self harm tw#honestly warranted I think w the description of this? considering how the whole idea is#LITERALLY just about self harm and like. yeha#anyways other ppl going lalala beautiful fluff of the men#or like soft stuff meanwhile I'm out here like hey so what if it was worse
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okay so, like I said in comments, I wanna share big thoughts as I was looking at this cuz like
it's very very interesting as a royal scientist said once or something like that
okay so like one of the things is that it really feels like foils upon foils moment
because you have 4, someone who treats his perfectionism as a weakness and his other side, the one that loves his friends, the compassionate part of him that tries so hard the strength and I BET he feels this pretty hard these days
meanwhile you have Puzzles, who treats her perfectionism side with love and care because it was the only thing that ever yieded anything for her and the side she treats as weakness, the one that yielded nothing in her life so far. but I feel like the movie and the leggy arc she had was what cracked it. I think she wants to nurture that side of her now since nobody else did. now on how she might, you could get a twisted mix of her serious attachment and deranged perfectionism
meanwhile. 3 and WPNZ so like. listen. as soon as you mentioned the yellow/gold and red thing they both have going on? listen. listen.
WPNZ's eyes don't go red at time when he's happy, he is like- almost like in an altered state of mind, like a part of him taking over, one that he comes to sort of well- dislike. and also a vulnerable side. and then the overconfident pick on side, the yellow, the one that forms connections. and the red that destroys them
then you have 3, who had experienced power unimagined before (yes I'm talking about godbox) a power he experienced, I'd argue, during his redemption. a side he for sure came to dislike, the one that wants to be something so badly, a side that if it takes over he does bad bad things he wouldn't otherwise, because he's really not as mean as he makes you want to believe (he's also only really mean for the bit, can't convince me otherwise)
and his red side, the one that survived things and came back stronger because of positive reinforcements he managed to get on his way to becoming someone who is (mainly) a joy to have around
so a yellow side that seeks to destroy, the red side that wants to create and keep them instead
but unlike with Puzzles and 4, these are more meshed together for both WPNZ and 3, in so many of their little interactions, both is so integrated, their nature that's unmutable, a part of them they can't therapy themselves out of. a part of them they learn to live with and become better for it
"Yellow for 3's heterochromia option? Totally for color contrast reasons :)"
also me:
✨TWO SIDES, SAME COIN✨

If we're gonna have parallels for 4 and Puzzles, I gotta do it for 3 and WPNZ, even if it isn't 100% one-to-one as our local showmen are. More so bc of being ✨destined partners✨
Heavily inspired by WPNZ's eyes change color by strong emotions, I wanted 3 to have a similar thing, only in terms of showing his true self. Basically if the "3's Color Subtitles" theory. Within the same concept:
4 earning his heterochromia by accepting his 2 sides -> color change becoming permanent as a reminder of who he is
3 risked everything to show his true and vulnerable side to save 4 -> color change switch from red to yellow the more his true self expresses
Then, there's the whole goop!4 tie in and how 3's corrupted form in IGBP by the red goo with yellow eyes, but that's pretty predictable from me specifically lmao
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update, each wall piece is a different material for some reason
my file is. starting to look insane
also "chris" (it's the props) and "lights" I've yet to touch props has like. about the most materials
I fear it honestly
I did see Toomp release and was thinking of doing something because I did have this render idea but also I'm. locked into something else which involves a rather heavy map that FOR SOME STUPID FUCKING REASON HAS 2176 SEPARATE MATERIALS
save me 😭
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hey wait a second there were more tags
THERE WERE MORE TAGS.
i checked and I. where did they go. I swear I developed out the angst, I didn't just leave it at this what the hell man
my tags.... I just woke up but I can't leave it at this, I left it at a cliff hanger
because after WPNZ spots that all too familiar yeah he freezes as the figure of the all too familiar person sets in but he quickly regains control and goes the other way before doing anything stupid like genuinely having an awkward encounter with the person who betrayed
but then of course the anger coursing through him, thinking about how he was used as he is not over it, walking by the street and suddenly kicking a trashcan across the street in fury, almost doing more but then realising what he's doing as he looks to Toomp to see him concerned but understanding
meanwhile Puzzles is inside that damn store, frozen thinking, wondering when he should muster up the courage to talk. to do anything at all to mend things, because just as he felt, time failed to heal, he felt it himself, starting to feel like he can't have his perfect fix for this
and spiraling, thinking about what he can do because he still cares, he still wants to talk to them. Thinks about offering to erease their memories of him and then he'll never see them again, maybe he'll self isolate again because that already worked out for him so well. Considering, who would ever give him forgiveness now? But part of him resists, the part that's stubborn, the part that still sometimes aches for Leggy even, like a naive hope that he just can't shoot down. It's what would keep him on tracks, keep him away from fully cutting himself away from everything he ever had. because he can fix it
I did change it up a bit but this just about what was missing, which is. crazy
god tumblr and its stupidity, I swear I posted it with more tags
So, the Guns N' Puzzles movie....
[spoilers below cut]
hello, dear fellows, and welcome to the finale of this arc! This has been incredibly exciting not only to see more of this great discussion about choice, but of course to be a part of it. And yall know me, as always, I got:
closet-cosplay of WPNZ, had to dress up for the premiere
a bowl of cereal as this event's treat of choice
and ofc I got my bingo card, speaking of which I made my own version (Ink Certified) and anytime I find something, it'll be highlighted pink in this review :)
I will say, if my camera watcher theory is ever mentioned in the movie, I would scream. If not, I'd still scream if they do in the future.
Thoughts before the movie: well uh, I honestly don't know what to expect, bc let's be real, this could go in any direction. So, concerned but hyped!! I do trust the Team to stick the landing, I know they can. BRING IT ON. Probably wouldn't teary eye like I did in SOTC but who knows. OMG the final countdown is starting!
3...2...1...!! happy new year oh wait, whoops LET'S GOOOO
(the following is my live reaction:)
it's still crazy that the Team decided to shadow-drop the movie just like that, no teaser or trailer. it definitely got us talking
oh boy, here we go AAAA
SOTC FLASHBACK 🫵
OUGH the deal, we're already getting into this already? I'm telling you, the terms might change (and WPNZ might not get his memories erased)
hold up, (end of) PUZZLEVISION MENTION
OFC PUZZLES WOULD HAVE THAT AS A STAND-IN FOR 4 *wheeze*
"Wonderful, perfect Beggy" AAA sorry, getting jumpscared by that word. But fr it's how Puzzles viewed his friendship with Leggy in general, perfect until the Crew "took it away" from him and therefore blaming them with the biggest grudge
the toaster as WPNZ? *looks at them side-by-side* huh.
AH, so this was what the ultimate plan was. I really hope he doesn't go through with it, but considering he has a grudge on them (mostly on 4), it's a low chance
...eye of *gets ran over by bus* I DIDN'T EVEN GET TO SAY IT but that's very 5Star!Puzzles right there
one last call? It's Meggy, isn't it
"CRT screen" ah, that's interesting [Theory Notes updated in the Court Record] That would explain the bulkiness of his head, plus an idea of his timeline
Conflicted, eh Puzzles? Well, the description did say he had to make a choice so, this might be it
IT'S SHOWTIME!!!
we are using (some) of the stolen items for the breakout, cool cool. I got the list right here. okay, so we can cross out Bob's drill and Mario's mushroom
just. WPNZ being a dad :)
SOTC FLASHBACK x2 🫵 (can't really blame WPNZ for remembering bc timeline-wise, it didn't happen too long ago either)
this is found family if I ever seen one
can we just appreciate this map real quick?
"don't slip" aw puzzles does care deep down 🥹💙
Toomp is their son confirmed /hj
grand finale? but the movie just started, Puzzles smh
and i oop—
WAIT. ARE THEY ACTUALLY GONNA DANCE OMG
WE'RE GETTING A MUSICAL DUET??!?!?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!??!
if you happen to hear screaming from the other side of the world, that's me
don't mind me, I'm just going to clip this scene for the rest of my life
oh, and there's Toomp using 3's super bomb
👏👏👏 BRAVO BRAVO ¡QUÉ MARAVILLOSO!
same hal same
somehow all the great gunshow moments happen to have bisexual lighting, it does make you wonder
oh, so that's what the Miku figurine was for, I did guess that it was gonna be used as a distraction of some time. but fr what are they gonna do with 4's PC? was it just out of pettiness?
(also, I gotta do the thing: HATSUNE MIKU, IS THAT YOU?!?!?)
hi Meggy! wait, you're cooking 😅 oh.
SMG4: "I cannot believe you're seriously letting HIM into my castle" OH shit, so she did tell them. okay, so that changes things.
fr thanks meggy for making it clear for the people in the back (some people just don't get it)
doing good vs doing the right thing and etc. -> I love these kinda discussions bc there is a difference and I find it fascinating yet unsurprising that 4 doesn't consider himself "a hero"
ooh Meggy's definitely putting the pieces together but she's still holding onto that hope that Puzzles would change
so apparently back to the found family completing the breakout
the fact that WPNZ is hesitating speaks volumes fr, but it is sweet that he would like to go commit more crimes together
Trust the ✨Vision✨
considering that WPNZ has done jobs this risky before, fair enougn for him to be questioning it
fuck man, i REALLY hope they don't go through with it :( even Toomp's suspecting that something's wrong
and they ran out of time, THEY GOTTA GO
🫵 OLD
"Toomp has had enough of your bullshit" "You couldn't have done that sooner?" *WHEEZE* well, chat: new reaction image just dropped
OUGH WPNZ SAID "that's my halfpint" TO TOOMP, THE SAME NICKNAME FOR HIS KIDS 😭 ueueue
paid leave? oh HELL YEAH
NOT SINCE.... (oh so we really are going with the found family route, that was mainly just a hc ngl)
ah ofc. the government.
....tf is that? the Death Cube? looks like it from the silhouette
I'm just going to go ahead and malfunction now. like. the vibes here.
can't believe this show invented gay people
we're not beating the "WPNZ adopted Toomp" allegations, I see
not that we have a canon age for Toomp, he is slime/goo, but if it turned out that he's in his 30s or smth, it's both funny and sweet. the beauty of found family, finding people that care for you
Teletubbies -> PV mention, I see you
my child eats paper /silly (also lowkey, what was Toomp reading there?)
Man, it's moments like these where I need to shake someone by the shoulders /silly
We already got this interesting dynamic between these two (dare I say a "two sides, same coin" situation) so there are things they can connect with, understand one another. But it's also that fact that WPNZ can keep Puzzles grounded from her own spiraling thoughts. And then on top of it. wanting to enjoy the moment while it lasts
and I mean "while it lasts" bc there's the Death Cube rn
DEATH FRIDGE ADHL;GJK no yeah, that was a good one
also the trio laughing brings me joy
....hell nah, we're outta here
i did spot giant BeegSMG4 in the background there
NO THE RALSEI PLUSHIE
oh hey, cube! didn't expect you to be in this movie
anyone got a powerscale tierlist? bc we're gonna need to update that after this movie
SOTC FLASHBACK x3 🫵
I'm telling yall, found family wins every time
Toomp truly be the MVP here
*turns chair around* Team, you can't getting away with it /j
(I did say they can cheat around it with a "princess carry" moment >:D)
WPNZ: "Someone oughta put us in a movie" haha, get it? also bc that's Puzzles whole shtick
THAT SOFT LOOK, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? this movie is for the gunshow shippers frfr
FERRIS WHEEL MENTION 🫵 (sorry sorry, I had to)
*table literally on fire* this looks delightful
7:30?! damn it got dark real fast
Meggy's really hoping, huh.
🥹 THAT'S OUR BOY RIGHT THERE. Maybe he can't fully understand why Meggy's doing this, but whatever happens, he'll always be there for support, for his friends. Even if it means putting his own grudge on Puzzles aside for the timebeing
Peak SMG4 character moment
and the trio apparently found a van, who would've thought
Puzzles: "ABSOLUTE CINEMA" SHE SAID THE THING!!!
...is this the ultimate decision Puzzles has, the border or the Showgrounds?
why is this nerve-wracking for me? fuck man
...omg, that scene was beautifully well-done. Probably haven't talked about it but WPNZ having a character development throughout all this, wow!! Didn't expect that and you can say that I'm proud?? of him for that, good for him. Do be changing the terms of that deal, huh.
WPNZ: "But you should think about letting go. Like I did." *head in hands* Puzzles can't let go, that's the thing. Even if being in this trio, she can't.
here we go, time to make the choice
*Showgrounds sign reveal* I knew it, goddammit
well, Toomp, you tried
LAYWER MEGGY LET'S GOOOOO <- I'm very normal about this, I promise
btw while we're at it, I'm counting the grudge 4 and Puzzles have on the other as a parallel
I mean, they were expecting you to arrive, Puzzles
well, shit it's the police
waitwaitwait, ace attorney ost guessing time! ok, this track is "Telling the Truth" (2001) which is quite fitting haha
oop you slipped up, Puzzles. Meggy's a lawyer for a reason
another AA track!! looks like "Suspense" (2001) came back for the movie :)
The truth is gonna come out, whether you want it to or not
...oh fuck. (please don't go through with it, please don't)
NOOOOOOOOOOOO GOD FUCKIN DAMMIT
like I had a feeling it was gonna happen but. *head in hands* whyyyyy <- and I know why
(welp, that fact that Puzzles' head can become a taperecorder, that's got (angst) potential)
shiiiiiiiiiiiiit
ok, first off: this whole movie was the Team giving a kiss to the brick before hurdling it at us, which OW
second: I can't even describe to you how my heart sank THROUGH THE GROUND for WPNZ in that moment. Gotta do an obligatory "you can actually pinpoint the second when his heart rips in half"
but also, third:
did the Team just pulled a parallel from 4 and 3 from IGBP (unintentionally most likely)? hm, well played.
no yeah, WPNZ crashing out is totally valid here. I'm devastated for him
oh the Crew would have questions about this
I'm sorry, huh?
they just went to the TV Dimension omg <- is both concerned and excited
WPNZ PLUSHIE??!?!?
WPNZ: "You don't deserve real friends. Not anymore." we speedran to divorce, huh
this fight is really cool to see, props to the Team, but this is also so heartbreaking,,
yep, WPNZ is right. Puzzles used them, they were all tricked. And Meggy, particularly Leggy, saw the truth too
I've got been clutching my plushies this whole time btw. I. I'm just speechless.
oh Meggy :( you tried
"you can actually pinpoint the second when his heart rips in half" x2
uh ok, so I might actually cry in this movie. omg.
And it's the thing, I don't blame Meggy here, and never have. She really tried to help out, hoping that there would be change. But ultimately, Puzzles made his choice and this was a result. Broken the one condition Meggy had, no tricks or games. This only proven what 4 has been telling them all. (I'll definitely talk about this more, are you kidding me /lh)
*wpnz breaking out of static mode* oh my god.... *death fridge cube barging into the Castle* AH CRAP
waitwaitwait, hold up. did you guys see this?
"Real name?" does WPNZ actually have a name? No, better question: why would the government have record of it? 🤔 I mean, I always thought that "Mr WPNZ" was a codename Hitman Inc gave him/a name he gave to himself from his unknown past, but to have this? huh.
phew, at least WPNZ got himself and Toomp out of there. And that's the thing, he is more than just "going into the fight guns blazing"; he's an experience fighter. While he evaluated himself being able to stand a chance against the Death Cube, he knows that the better choice is to retreat. This isn't just taking care of himself anymore, it's worrying for someone else, that being Toomp. Probably hasn't done that since Karen.
please don't scan the crew please don't scan the crew please don't scan the crew
okok, the Cube's gone (certainly don't need another heartattack rn)
that moment right there is everything. It was incredibly written and exactly what 4 needed to tell Meggy. I couldn't say it better myself. also the fact that I see them as found siblings, that hug meant a lot to me specifically (can I lowkey get a hug too)
did you guys see 3 there? he looked pretty pissed ngl. was it bc of the coupon or ???
so, WPNZ and Toomp are on the run, huh. I really do hope they're safe, away from the Death Fridge. At least they got each other :'(
yea ok why don't you go ahead and rip my heart out, Team,, I don't need another reminder of the divorce
*head in hands* Puzzles still has the bullet......
"I trusted you!" HE DID, WPNZ REALLY DID
oh you got to be kidding me, NOT THE FLASHBACKS STAWP
Team, I'm need to grab yall by the shoulders istg, yall are insane for this /aff
not only did you bring it all back with a parallel to WPNZ at the end of SOTC, but you also brought the teaser back for the second time in this arc

Puzzles was right: WPNZ truly was a star in this movie, and just as these two have paralleled each other many times before, they're left broken, alone rain. But what's truly painful, it's that they lost their family. People who have they trusted.
And, here is Puzzles with a single bullet, now a reminder of great regret. Really mirrors how Karen was given the grenade ring from WPNZ and how she regrets being associated with him at all.
...alright Team, you got me 😭 is that what you wanted?? /silly
Puzzles: "I'm going to fix this..." uh what did you mean by that? Team, what did she mean by that?
WHAT NONONO THIS CAN'T BE IT? I WANT MOREEEE
luke, I'm having an emotional moment here /ref. that's right, there better be more i swear *head in hands*
i do like the WPNZ plushie, yes. and that puzzles keychain is so gooby /aff
i desperately need that WPNZ and Toomp keychain, I would like to carry around my found family plz
...so that's it, huh. what am i supposed to do with my life after that?
.・-: ✧ :--: ✧ :-・.
So, you're probably wondering how I feel after watching the premiere, and I can only describe it as this:
naurrrr my $30 mascara.... /ref
alright, let's get real this time. Wow, just wow. This was an amazing movie, it might even surpass SOTC!! I've told yall from time to time that if you managed to get me emotional, you deserve appreciation and praise bc ay caray.... And even more if I end up speechless afterward. Now, that's a feat.
Can we talk about the story? We gotta talk about the story!!
Throughout this whole arc, it brought some topics into discussion. Redemption. The complex feelings one can have for another due to their wrongdoing. The law itself (heh, who would've thought that would happen). But most of all, the message that's emphasized not only in this arc, it's one of the biggest messages in the entire show:
The choice and the truth.
The truth, it's absolute. It's the only thing that exists in a black and white view. What people choose to do with it and how they perceive it, now that's within its shades of gray. I'll give you an example, with this arc as a matter of fact:
The truth? Puzzles tricked everyone for his plans to go exactly how he wanted them to be.
It doesn't seem that black and white tho, right? Stubborn and afraid of being alone again, Puzzles wanted to have Leggy, or Meggy by extension, to be his friend again. In his eyes, "performing" was the only way people would like him, that he was any worth. He'd hoped his first ever friendship wasn't completely over, and was indeed conflicted about his feelings toward WPNZ and Toomp. But in the end, he made the choices he made, despite getting so many chances to redeem himself, and he was left alone in the rain, only a reminder of what he did to prevent that truth from coming out.
The truth didn't change.
Then there was Meggy, who believed in his redemption. It's within her character, it's a part of her that can see the good in people. After the people closest to her never got a chance to live the way they wished to, ofc she would want to prevent that if she could. Yes, she was hurt for what Puzzles had done to her previously but she was also the one who saw his true side in the mindscape. She can't exactly forgive him and he has to hold accountability for his actions, but there was a chance for Puzzles to grow. Even if the people around her think otherwise. But in the end, she saw the truth due to Puzzles and initially took the blame for not seeing it when she was close to figuring it out.
The truth didn't change.
All stories, no matter how outlandish it seems, are grounded in reality. And that's what I like about this. If given the truth, what do you do? Bad people can act for good while having bad intentions. Good people can act for bad while having good intentions. And yet, the truth is absolute.
Just some pretty interesting stuff I wanted to share, my two cents haha. Aside from that, I do wanna highlight a bit on WPNZ's character development. Ofc he'll still be proud of his kids but he realized that it was time to let his bitterness go and start anew. Well then, what's gonna be the future for the show?
For starters, WOTFI time is coming up and it'll be curious what it would be this time for the challenges since the PV website dead now (RIP 🕊️). I heard from the community that some people want the Puzzles' story to continue there, some don't. I think it would be interesting to have a change, give both Meggy and Puzzles a break. Let the Team cook for next year! It would be cool to see Toomp or 3 get the spotlight. Tari or Melony perhaps?
We know that WPNZ and Toomp are currently on the run rn, we could have some adventures with them from time to time. Maybe random encounters with Karen and/or Hitman Inc. But what we don't know is Puzzles.
When Puzzles said the last line about "fixing it", some people assumed that he's gonna make up the relationship he had with WPNZ and Toomp and earn their trust, which fair enough. But what exactly did he mean by "fixing it"? Over this whole arc, there have been multiple definitions in fixing. The first time was in the deal he made, where Puzzles could "fix" WPNZ by erasing the memories of his family. The second time was literally fixing WPNZ up and putting his limbs back together. But every time he emphasizes how he hasn't given up and that he could still fix things, we can be sure it's how Puzzles is like as a character (need to "perform", stubborn, perfectionist, etc). So naturally, he's not gonna give up on this new plan.
Can it really just be "fixing" his friendships? Sure, it could.
But there could be something else too. It's the thing they made it clear in the movie, that Puzzles isn't the type to let things go so easily. It took the truth from Meggy to hit him like a pile of bricks to realize his mistakes. And it's not just that. The amusement park, the one he dreamed about as a kid? It got taken down. The TV show he wanted for his audience? He has no creative vision. His found family? He lost them. His first ever friend? Gone.
Well, if he can't see what he did, then who else could take most of the blame? Why, his narrative foil ofc: SMG4. Meggy said it herself, she believed in Puzzles but what he did only proved what 4 has been telling her, that Puzzles can never change. I have talked about it before how 4 is what Puzzles wishes to be but doesn't realize they're one of the same, two sides same coin situation. It's what he said before, "I'm nothing like him" bc in his eyes it's true. Plus, he already had a grudge against 4 wat before he met Leggy, so who's to say this didn't add another thing to blame on the "it's 4's fault" list. Not likely but we do have to consider the possibilities here.
Moving on, can we give props to the SMG4 Team for this movie (and arc in general)? 👏🎉 Everyone on the SMG4 Team has done such an incredible job!! The writing, the animation, the voice acting, the storyboards. Shout-out to Clubbins, Shadow, Wiz, Starteas, Star, Anaidon, Braden, Rae, Aaron, Ben, and everyone who worked on this. And ofc Luke and Kevin for having this show in the first place.
Thank you!!
Some of them have been posting some of their behind-the-scenes work (yes, here on Tumblr!!) like Starteas, Clubbins, and Wiz so please go show some love and appreciation!! As always, remember to be kind and respectful 💙
Why don't we look over that bingo, huh?
AY I GOT DOUBLE BINGO 🎉
I do wanna take the time to say thank you to the SMG4 Tumblr for participating in giving suggestions or for playing! This has been a wonderful tradition we had since WOTFI 2024. I do hope that we not only continue this in the future but also enjoy the hype we had for his arc. As a theorist and a reporter, this means a lot to me ^^
But also it's crazy that I added a bullet illustration just for the funsies, went "haha it looks like Puzzles is about to get shot", and then to see a bullet break Puzzles emotionally. what have I done? /silly
Once again, this was amazing spectacular showstopping beautiful, all around. Team, thank you so much for taking the time and work into this, we can't wait to see more. Also, WOTFI 2025, ooh very exciting!! This is why I love this show, my named Saturday Morning Cartoon (TM). That's going to be all from me. I'll see yall next time, and remember: numbers always go first!
....so anyway this was the best and worst day for the gunshow shippers. for me specifically tf
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900 wood textures and it's all the same man I'm not joking, I hate roblox maps with a passion
I'm gonna have a Blender nightmare at this rate
I did see Toomp release and was thinking of doing something because I did have this render idea but also I'm. locked into something else which involves a rather heavy map that FOR SOME STUPID FUCKING REASON HAS 2176 SEPARATE MATERIALS
save me 😭
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I did see Toomp release and was thinking of doing something because I did have this render idea but also I'm. locked into something else which involves a rather heavy map that FOR SOME STUPID FUCKING REASON HAS 2176 SEPARATE MATERIALS
save me 😭
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So, the Guns N' Puzzles movie....
[spoilers below cut]
hello, dear fellows, and welcome to the finale of this arc! This has been incredibly exciting not only to see more of this great discussion about choice, but of course to be a part of it. And yall know me, as always, I got:
closet-cosplay of WPNZ, had to dress up for the premiere
a bowl of cereal as this event's treat of choice
and ofc I got my bingo card, speaking of which I made my own version (Ink Certified) and anytime I find something, it'll be highlighted pink in this review :)
I will say, if my camera watcher theory is ever mentioned in the movie, I would scream. If not, I'd still scream if they do in the future.
Thoughts before the movie: well uh, I honestly don't know what to expect, bc let's be real, this could go in any direction. So, concerned but hyped!! I do trust the Team to stick the landing, I know they can. BRING IT ON. Probably wouldn't teary eye like I did in SOTC but who knows. OMG the final countdown is starting!
3...2...1...!! happy new year oh wait, whoops LET'S GOOOO
(the following is my live reaction:)
it's still crazy that the Team decided to shadow-drop the movie just like that, no teaser or trailer. it definitely got us talking
oh boy, here we go AAAA
SOTC FLASHBACK 🫵
OUGH the deal, we're already getting into this already? I'm telling you, the terms might change (and WPNZ might not get his memories erased)
hold up, (end of) PUZZLEVISION MENTION
OFC PUZZLES WOULD HAVE THAT AS A STAND-IN FOR 4 *wheeze*
"Wonderful, perfect Beggy" AAA sorry, getting jumpscared by that word. But fr it's how Puzzles viewed his friendship with Leggy in general, perfect until the Crew "took it away" from him and therefore blaming them with the biggest grudge
the toaster as WPNZ? *looks at them side-by-side* huh.
AH, so this was what the ultimate plan was. I really hope he doesn't go through with it, but considering he has a grudge on them (mostly on 4), it's a low chance
...eye of *gets ran over by bus* I DIDN'T EVEN GET TO SAY IT but that's very 5Star!Puzzles right there
one last call? It's Meggy, isn't it
"CRT screen" ah, that's interesting [Theory Notes updated in the Court Record] That would explain the bulkiness of his head, plus an idea of his timeline
Conflicted, eh Puzzles? Well, the description did say he had to make a choice so, this might be it
IT'S SHOWTIME!!!
we are using (some) of the stolen items for the breakout, cool cool. I got the list right here. okay, so we can cross out Bob's drill and Mario's mushroom
just. WPNZ being a dad :)
SOTC FLASHBACK x2 🫵 (can't really blame WPNZ for remembering bc timeline-wise, it didn't happen too long ago either)
this is found family if I ever seen one
can we just appreciate this map real quick?
"don't slip" aw puzzles does care deep down 🥹💙
Toomp is their son confirmed /hj
grand finale? but the movie just started, Puzzles smh
and i oop—
WAIT. ARE THEY ACTUALLY GONNA DANCE OMG
WE'RE GETTING A MUSICAL DUET??!?!?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!??!
if you happen to hear screaming from the other side of the world, that's me
don't mind me, I'm just going to clip this scene for the rest of my life
oh, and there's Toomp using 3's super bomb
👏👏👏 BRAVO BRAVO ¡QUÉ MARAVILLOSO!
same hal same
somehow all the great gunshow moments happen to have bisexual lighting, it does make you wonder
oh, so that's what the Miku figurine was for, I did guess that it was gonna be used as a distraction of some time. but fr what are they gonna do with 4's PC? was it just out of pettiness?
(also, I gotta do the thing: HATSUNE MIKU, IS THAT YOU?!?!?)
hi Meggy! wait, you're cooking 😅 oh.
SMG4: "I cannot believe you're seriously letting HIM into my castle" OH shit, so she did tell them. okay, so that changes things.
fr thanks meggy for making it clear for the people in the back (some people just don't get it)
doing good vs doing the right thing and etc. -> I love these kinda discussions bc there is a difference and I find it fascinating yet unsurprising that 4 doesn't consider himself "a hero"
ooh Meggy's definitely putting the pieces together but she's still holding onto that hope that Puzzles would change
so apparently back to the found family completing the breakout
the fact that WPNZ is hesitating speaks volumes fr, but it is sweet that he would like to go commit more crimes together
Trust the ✨Vision✨
considering that WPNZ has done jobs this risky before, fair enougn for him to be questioning it
fuck man, i REALLY hope they don't go through with it :( even Toomp's suspecting that something's wrong
and they ran out of time, THEY GOTTA GO
🫵 OLD
"Toomp has had enough of your bullshit" "You couldn't have done that sooner?" *WHEEZE* well, chat: new reaction image just dropped
OUGH WPNZ SAID "that's my halfpint" TO TOOMP, THE SAME NICKNAME FOR HIS KIDS 😭 ueueue
paid leave? oh HELL YEAH
NOT SINCE.... (oh so we really are going with the found family route, that was mainly just a hc ngl)
ah ofc. the government.
....tf is that? the Death Cube? looks like it from the silhouette
I'm just going to go ahead and malfunction now. like. the vibes here.
can't believe this show invented gay people
we're not beating the "WPNZ adopted Toomp" allegations, I see
not that we have a canon age for Toomp, he is slime/goo, but if it turned out that he's in his 30s or smth, it's both funny and sweet. the beauty of found family, finding people that care for you
Teletubbies -> PV mention, I see you
my child eats paper /silly (also lowkey, what was Toomp reading there?)
Man, it's moments like these where I need to shake someone by the shoulders /silly
We already got this interesting dynamic between these two (dare I say a "two sides, same coin" situation) so there are things they can connect with, understand one another. But it's also that fact that WPNZ can keep Puzzles grounded from her own spiraling thoughts. And then on top of it. wanting to enjoy the moment while it lasts
and I mean "while it lasts" bc there's the Death Cube rn
DEATH FRIDGE ADHL;GJK no yeah, that was a good one
also the trio laughing brings me joy
....hell nah, we're outta here
i did spot giant BeegSMG4 in the background there
NO THE RALSEI PLUSHIE
oh hey, cube! didn't expect you to be in this movie
anyone got a powerscale tierlist? bc we're gonna need to update that after this movie
SOTC FLASHBACK x3 🫵
I'm telling yall, found family wins every time
Toomp truly be the MVP here
*turns chair around* Team, you can't getting away with it /j
(I did say they can cheat around it with a "princess carry" moment >:D)
WPNZ: "Someone oughta put us in a movie" haha, get it? also bc that's Puzzles whole shtick
THAT SOFT LOOK, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? this movie is for the gunshow shippers frfr
FERRIS WHEEL MENTION 🫵 (sorry sorry, I had to)
*table literally on fire* this looks delightful
7:30?! damn it got dark real fast
Meggy's really hoping, huh.
🥹 THAT'S OUR BOY RIGHT THERE. Maybe he can't fully understand why Meggy's doing this, but whatever happens, he'll always be there for support, for his friends. Even if it means putting his own grudge on Puzzles aside for the timebeing
Peak SMG4 character moment
and the trio apparently found a van, who would've thought
Puzzles: "ABSOLUTE CINEMA" SHE SAID THE THING!!!
...is this the ultimate decision Puzzles has, the border or the Showgrounds?
why is this nerve-wracking for me? fuck man
...omg, that scene was beautifully well-done. Probably haven't talked about it but WPNZ having a character development throughout all this, wow!! Didn't expect that and you can say that I'm proud?? of him for that, good for him. Do be changing the terms of that deal, huh.
WPNZ: "But you should think about letting go. Like I did." *head in hands* Puzzles can't let go, that's the thing. Even if being in this trio, she can't.
here we go, time to make the choice
*Showgrounds sign reveal* I knew it, goddammit
well, Toomp, you tried
LAYWER MEGGY LET'S GOOOOO <- I'm very normal about this, I promise
btw while we're at it, I'm counting the grudge 4 and Puzzles have on the other as a parallel
I mean, they were expecting you to arrive, Puzzles
well, shit it's the police
waitwaitwait, ace attorney ost guessing time! ok, this track is "Telling the Truth" (2001) which is quite fitting haha
oop you slipped up, Puzzles. Meggy's a lawyer for a reason
another AA track!! looks like "Suspense" (2001) came back for the movie :)
The truth is gonna come out, whether you want it to or not
...oh fuck. (please don't go through with it, please don't)
NOOOOOOOOOOOO GOD FUCKIN DAMMIT
like I had a feeling it was gonna happen but. *head in hands* whyyyyy <- and I know why
(welp, that fact that Puzzles' head can become a taperecorder, that's got (angst) potential)
shiiiiiiiiiiiiit
ok, first off: this whole movie was the Team giving a kiss to the brick before hurdling it at us, which OW
second: I can't even describe to you how my heart sank THROUGH THE GROUND for WPNZ in that moment. Gotta do an obligatory "you can actually pinpoint the second when his heart rips in half"
but also, third:
did the Team just pulled a parallel from 4 and 3 from IGBP (unintentionally most likely)? hm, well played.
no yeah, WPNZ crashing out is totally valid here. I'm devastated for him
oh the Crew would have questions about this
I'm sorry, huh?
they just went to the TV Dimension omg <- is both concerned and excited
WPNZ PLUSHIE??!?!?
WPNZ: "You don't deserve real friends. Not anymore." we speedran to divorce, huh
this fight is really cool to see, props to the Team, but this is also so heartbreaking,,
yep, WPNZ is right. Puzzles used them, they were all tricked. And Meggy, particularly Leggy, saw the truth too
I've got been clutching my plushies this whole time btw. I. I'm just speechless.
oh Meggy :( you tried
"you can actually pinpoint the second when his heart rips in half" x2
uh ok, so I might actually cry in this movie. omg.
And it's the thing, I don't blame Meggy here, and never have. She really tried to help out, hoping that there would be change. But ultimately, Puzzles made his choice and this was a result. Broken the one condition Meggy had, no tricks or games. This only proven what 4 has been telling them all. (I'll definitely talk about this more, are you kidding me /lh)
*wpnz breaking out of static mode* oh my god.... *death fridge cube barging into the Castle* AH CRAP
waitwaitwait, hold up. did you guys see this?
"Real name?" does WPNZ actually have a name? No, better question: why would the government have record of it? 🤔 I mean, I always thought that "Mr WPNZ" was a codename Hitman Inc gave him/a name he gave to himself from his unknown past, but to have this? huh.
phew, at least WPNZ got himself and Toomp out of there. And that's the thing, he is more than just "going into the fight guns blazing"; he's an experience fighter. While he evaluated himself being able to stand a chance against the Death Cube, he knows that the better choice is to retreat. This isn't just taking care of himself anymore, it's worrying for someone else, that being Toomp. Probably hasn't done that since Karen.
please don't scan the crew please don't scan the crew please don't scan the crew
okok, the Cube's gone (certainly don't need another heartattack rn)
that moment right there is everything. It was incredibly written and exactly what 4 needed to tell Meggy. I couldn't say it better myself. also the fact that I see them as found siblings, that hug meant a lot to me specifically (can I lowkey get a hug too)
did you guys see 3 there? he looked pretty pissed ngl. was it bc of the coupon or ???
so, WPNZ and Toomp are on the run, huh. I really do hope they're safe, away from the Death Fridge. At least they got each other :'(
yea ok why don't you go ahead and rip my heart out, Team,, I don't need another reminder of the divorce
*head in hands* Puzzles still has the bullet......
"I trusted you!" HE DID, WPNZ REALLY DID
oh you got to be kidding me, NOT THE FLASHBACKS STAWP
Team, I'm need to grab yall by the shoulders istg, yall are insane for this /aff
not only did you bring it all back with a parallel to WPNZ at the end of SOTC, but you also brought the teaser back for the second time in this arc

Puzzles was right: WPNZ truly was a star in this movie, and just as these two have paralleled each other many times before, they're left broken, alone rain. But what's truly painful, it's that they lost their family. People who have they trusted.
And, here is Puzzles with a single bullet, now a reminder of great regret. Really mirrors how Karen was given the grenade ring from WPNZ and how she regrets being associated with him at all.
...alright Team, you got me 😭 is that what you wanted?? /silly
Puzzles: "I'm going to fix this..." uh what did you mean by that? Team, what did she mean by that?
WHAT NONONO THIS CAN'T BE IT? I WANT MOREEEE
luke, I'm having an emotional moment here /ref. that's right, there better be more i swear *head in hands*
i do like the WPNZ plushie, yes. and that puzzles keychain is so gooby /aff
i desperately need that WPNZ and Toomp keychain, I would like to carry around my found family plz
...so that's it, huh. what am i supposed to do with my life after that?
.・-: ✧ :--: ✧ :-・.
So, you're probably wondering how I feel after watching the premiere, and I can only describe it as this:
naurrrr my $30 mascara.... /ref
alright, let's get real this time. Wow, just wow. This was an amazing movie, it might even surpass SOTC!! I've told yall from time to time that if you managed to get me emotional, you deserve appreciation and praise bc ay caray.... And even more if I end up speechless afterward. Now, that's a feat.
Can we talk about the story? We gotta talk about the story!!
Throughout this whole arc, it brought some topics into discussion. Redemption. The complex feelings one can have for another due to their wrongdoing. The law itself (heh, who would've thought that would happen). But most of all, the message that's emphasized not only in this arc, it's one of the biggest messages in the entire show:
The choice and the truth.
The truth, it's absolute. It's the only thing that exists in a black and white view. What people choose to do with it and how they perceive it, now that's within its shades of gray. I'll give you an example, with this arc as a matter of fact:
The truth? Puzzles tricked everyone for his plans to go exactly how he wanted them to be.
It doesn't seem that black and white tho, right? Stubborn and afraid of being alone again, Puzzles wanted to have Leggy, or Meggy by extension, to be his friend again. In his eyes, "performing" was the only way people would like him, that he was any worth. He'd hoped his first ever friendship wasn't completely over, and was indeed conflicted about his feelings toward WPNZ and Toomp. But in the end, he made the choices he made, despite getting so many chances to redeem himself, and he was left alone in the rain, only a reminder of what he did to prevent that truth from coming out.
The truth didn't change.
Then there was Meggy, who believed in his redemption. It's within her character, it's a part of her that can see the good in people. After the people closest to her never got a chance to live the way they wished to, ofc she would want to prevent that if she could. Yes, she was hurt for what Puzzles had done to her previously but she was also the one who saw his true side in the mindscape. She can't exactly forgive him and he has to hold accountability for his actions, but there was a chance for Puzzles to grow. Even if the people around her think otherwise. But in the end, she saw the truth due to Puzzles and initially took the blame for not seeing it when she was close to figuring it out.
The truth didn't change.
All stories, no matter how outlandish it seems, are grounded in reality. And that's what I like about this. If given the truth, what do you do? Bad people can act for good while having bad intentions. Good people can act for bad while having good intentions. And yet, the truth is absolute.
Just some pretty interesting stuff I wanted to share, my two cents haha. Aside from that, I do wanna highlight a bit on WPNZ's character development. Ofc he'll still be proud of his kids but he realized that it was time to let his bitterness go and start anew. Well then, what's gonna be the future for the show?
For starters, WOTFI time is coming up and it'll be curious what it would be this time for the challenges since the PV website dead now (RIP 🕊️). I heard from the community that some people want the Puzzles' story to continue there, some don't. I think it would be interesting to have a change, give both Meggy and Puzzles a break. Let the Team cook for next year! It would be cool to see Toomp or 3 get the spotlight. Tari or Melony perhaps?
We know that WPNZ and Toomp are currently on the run rn, we could have some adventures with them from time to time. Maybe random encounters with Karen and/or Hitman Inc. But what we don't know is Puzzles.
When Puzzles said the last line about "fixing it", some people assumed that he's gonna make up the relationship he had with WPNZ and Toomp and earn their trust, which fair enough. But what exactly did he mean by "fixing it"? Over this whole arc, there have been multiple definitions in fixing. The first time was in the deal he made, where Puzzles could "fix" WPNZ by erasing the memories of his family. The second time was literally fixing WPNZ up and putting his limbs back together. But every time he emphasizes how he hasn't given up and that he could still fix things, we can be sure it's how Puzzles is like as a character (need to "perform", stubborn, perfectionist, etc). So naturally, he's not gonna give up on this new plan.
Can it really just be "fixing" his friendships? Sure, it could.
But there could be something else too. It's the thing they made it clear in the movie, that Puzzles isn't the type to let things go so easily. It took the truth from Meggy to hit him like a pile of bricks to realize his mistakes. And it's not just that. The amusement park, the one he dreamed about as a kid? It got taken down. The TV show he wanted for his audience? He has no creative vision. His found family? He lost them. His first ever friend? Gone.
Well, if he can't see what he did, then who else could take most of the blame? Why, his narrative foil ofc: SMG4. Meggy said it herself, she believed in Puzzles but what he did only proved what 4 has been telling her, that Puzzles can never change. I have talked about it before how 4 is what Puzzles wishes to be but doesn't realize they're one of the same, two sides same coin situation. It's what he said before, "I'm nothing like him" bc in his eyes it's true. Plus, he already had a grudge against 4 wat before he met Leggy, so who's to say this didn't add another thing to blame on the "it's 4's fault" list. Not likely but we do have to consider the possibilities here.
Moving on, can we give props to the SMG4 Team for this movie (and arc in general)? 👏🎉 Everyone on the SMG4 Team has done such an incredible job!! The writing, the animation, the voice acting, the storyboards. Shout-out to Clubbins, Shadow, Wiz, Starteas, Star, Anaidon, Braden, Rae, Aaron, Ben, and everyone who worked on this. And ofc Luke and Kevin for having this show in the first place.
Thank you!!
Some of them have been posting some of their behind-the-scenes work (yes, here on Tumblr!!) like Starteas, Clubbins, and Wiz so please go show some love and appreciation!! As always, remember to be kind and respectful 💙
Why don't we look over that bingo, huh?
AY I GOT DOUBLE BINGO 🎉
I do wanna take the time to say thank you to the SMG4 Tumblr for participating in giving suggestions or for playing! This has been a wonderful tradition we had since WOTFI 2024. I do hope that we not only continue this in the future but also enjoy the hype we had for his arc. As a theorist and a reporter, this means a lot to me ^^
But also it's crazy that I added a bullet illustration just for the funsies, went "haha it looks like Puzzles is about to get shot", and then to see a bullet break Puzzles emotionally. what have I done? /silly
Once again, this was amazing spectacular showstopping beautiful, all around. Team, thank you so much for taking the time and work into this, we can't wait to see more. Also, WOTFI 2025, ooh very exciting!! This is why I love this show, my named Saturday Morning Cartoon (TM). That's going to be all from me. I'll see yall next time, and remember: numbers always go first!
....so anyway this was the best and worst day for the gunshow shippers. for me specifically tf
#oh man this movie#anyways to back into the tradition of reblog tags as basically cowriting analysis because I didn't think of it this way before and you#didn't really go into it#that being what Puzzles even views as fixing things and how that shows a LOT of how her brain works#and adds more 'who would've thunk' to the fact that one of his songs is called creative control#because him fixing things is always about him gaining control of the situation#and keeping things smooth only for himself#so I've been thinking and I think that the last scene is also about that#broken and beaten. her need to take control back and fix her situation#aka gain grounds at a place powerful enough where she doesn't feel like#like that anymore. how her dad made her feel. like she could be nothing#because all she ever heard is how she doesn't have what she needs and never given a chance really when you think about it#so my predicition so. I don't think she's gonna die#but she'll have a time where she could easily get things back on tracks by betraying the people she wants her to respect#and. she in the last moment goes against it. thinking of the things she was thrown at#that in the end what took everything away from her was the need to control and to smooth things over#to have everything be perfect in her vision where she can finally be okay#anyways because I also like to throw bricks of angst. and that Idk how I'd put this into a fic#imagine the scenario if you will - it has been several months#WPNZ almost started to freak out less frequently to anything that reminded him of Puzzles#Toomp has definitely helped. and they really helped each other in that way. making sure they're both fine#checking each other if the other seems to be out of it in some way#like Toomp extending himself far too much or WPNZ losing himself in sadistic glee of violence#like 2 mentally ill guys who make a working team#and as usual errands they go to a store. a store they've been to#a store that holds memories. some corners remind WPNZ of that damned gas station. the things he said. but he persists. he grew#and so they pick their things up. calmly walking through. then the spot the back of an all too familiar television#WPNZ stops dead in his tracks. not even fully realising what he's seeing at first#as if a memory was clogged in his mind. making him unable to think#while Toomp is trying to direct him to go elsewhere
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I'm scared of commitment but what if I wrote a hitshow fic
I just- don't know if I can fully commit so I'm over here like
and I haven't written in a bit so it might suck oughhh
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Hey, as a fan of the Gunshow ship, I ask why you and your co-writer hurt us like that in the end part?
Also, will that ship come true or not?
Because sometimes sad things happen for character development. Also because we’re mean and we like to watch everyone cry.
#guess I'm an outlier because I LOVE DIVORCE I LOVE DIVORCE I LOVE DIVORCE YAY YAY YAYYYY#DIVORCE IS SO AWESOME YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY#I hope when they see each other again it's either painful awkward or both. hopefully both
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gay subtext crawled with tooth and nail so whatever the fuck Puzzles and WPNZ were doing could hit you over the head with a hammer several times until you get it that those bitches having shit going on
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fuck it man, I'm gonna talk about peak. I'm. gonna. talk about. peak
MOVIE SPOILERSSS
When I tell you. so like. I haven't been that hard into the series that much is like, obvious, so like. When I tell you. WHEN I TELL YOU.
I watched this whole thing, mainly glued to the screen though more so towards the 2nd part. I have this problem with awkward scenes where they affect me more than they should so I do just. skip around sometimes cuz I can't handle them these days. but man it gets SO good and like
I do love hitshow (more often referred to as gunshow I know but I'll forever call it hitshow, the same way I'm probably the only one making them into yuri) and I thought a lot about like how their whole thing would go and like, the fact. THE FACT that this is THE first time in a while the show managed to come up with something so much better than I ever expected. Like it's probably no secret to people who have followed me for longer, I really didn't like some of the movies and choices in general that were made. But this is the exact opposite, i've been sitting here like wow, this is literally so good, I couldn't have come up with anything better and I have ADHD-esque yaoi angst brain spinning all the time and that shit didn't come up with it it's that good. I LOVE DIVORCE SO MUCH, IT MAKES EVERYTHING BETTER!!!!!!!!!!! BITTER BITTER AWFUL DIVORCE THAT JUST KICKS YOU IN THE GUTS SO GOOD!!!!!!!!
Like man I've been sitting here like genuinely thinking about like doing stuff about it I'm just so much more preoccupied with other fandoms. As recently deltarune with chap 3 and 4 grabbed me right back into my familiar hell of kerdly kicking and screaming (in excitement) and also my partners pulling me into dandy's world where I've been toying around with a lot of stuff and both I've discussed at lenghts AND THEN THIS MOVIE BREAKS IN. TAKES OVER MY BRAIN. MAKES ME UNABLE TO FULL LOCK IN ON DOING ANYTHING ELSE??? WHEN I'VE BEEN WAY LESS FOCUSED ON IT???? broooo
like this was genuinely so good. and the smaller choices I'm still thinking about?
like the whole scene where Puzzles goes kinda manic as he spins into going towards the showgrounds and like, I looked around a little but have such little reading patience right now so- I wouldn't know if anyone talked about how it feels like he's. genuinely conflicted. He was manipulating because otherwise he's unstable and THAT unstable at that. I feel like he doesn't fully trust his feelings when making his choices yet he only acts by them. Like the thing with Leggy is that was his first connection and then he wasn't willing to let anyone in
And then the scenes where WPNZ straight up, physically gets to him, touches him which probably makes it hard to pay attention to anything else, like I'm thinking about the gas station scene with this- Like he almost faced the fact there that he's getting attached to these people when it wasn't his plan. Like he wants to make space and show how they're really just tools for him, something that I think he also did with Leggy if I'm being real.
And then the end, where I think, he. accepts that he cared. And that he ruined it. and that umm
:3

hey so that bullet (or bullet shell, Idk gun terminology mannnn) and with a TV? Like..... perhaps...... the ending?
As if to signal in a way that his realisation of "What have I done...?" is simply the beginning? Which I hope because. I need him to go throught he grueling wrangler of change
Also others rightfully talked about WPNZ moving on but the ending scene with him, his reaction to the TV there, like bro he's feeling so many emotions there mannnn like he still holds a sort of attachment, which I'm. pretty sure is because of how easily he gets attached to people and he's like, once again being tested. I can see him thinking "What was I thinking, wanting to pair up (gay joke intended) with the guy who immediately suggested ereasing memories that made me who I am today?" And perhaps still just sitting there. Toomp beside him as they relax for the day because maybe they had a long day before and. It had been a while yet it still lingers in his mind.
"Is... Is it bad that I still think about him?" saying it to himself outloud then showing off his poor anger management skills in how he'd handle the feelings it gives him. GREAT BITTER DIVORCE YAYYY <3 anguish and resentment on planet divorce yayyy!!!
Btw on that note I wanna say I hope he like, doesn't try to go back to Karen, like I hope he has the realisation thing that he fucked up for once and if he's not trusted again, he should be okay with it and move on
just LIKE HOW PUZZLES SHOULD'VE.... and frankly, almost did
Because this bitch will say oh I'm MANIPULATING THEM SO HARD!!! WHEHEHE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING!!!!
meanwhile getting silly with his supposed manipulation targets and getting incredibly and notacibly frustrated about it, like definitely part of the manipulation! Like OBVIOUSLY he was doing that to just Pretend To Be Vulnerable For Big Manipulate.
Kinda as if he's scared of yknow. losing control. yknow. yknow. yknow. And how it feels like in his movies he likes himself best as the director, one of his songs straight up being called creative *control* like......... me when the childish character is incredibly obvious
anyways I didn't mention that part yet but the whole fight scene where they get increasingly worse, not only is it so so divorce awesome but the way how they get increasingly more and more petty with each other too, so so stubborn, wanting to hurt the other more
like it's crazy to me, it had literally nothing to do with Puzzles's goals like. Okay so. WPNZ saying bad things is understandable, especially the situation. But Puzzles? Like he gen stayed there to be petty and to have the biggest most divorcest fight this show had ever seen
like the way he fought didn't feel like at all like he wanted to escape, to save himself. this bitch cared even in his worst moments what the fuck is WRONG WITH HIM!!!! LIKE WHAT IS WRONG WITH HIM!!!!!!!! CMON!!!!!! "but he was being mean to him it's the opposite, are you stupid?" we're talking about Puzzles the no emotion regulator man with a fuck ton of conflicting feelings, of course he would crash out at the core of his problem, which happened to be his divorcee
And the ending? the way how it makes me think not a "Oh he's getting better" but a "Will he make it better or worse?" because I'm unsure. Lot of things you can do with him and at this point I do genuinely trust the writers with it. Like wow, keep writing peak, keep doing this thing where you use only a few characters for the movie to be in main roles and make it about them, it works really well. just hoping it to be used for different groups of characters in the future as well. Especially if like at some point we get time away from Puzzles so he can digest his situation and we could explore other characters as well and leeeet Meggy reeeesttttt woah like woah
her reaction was very very good. I bet Leggy was so destroyed in her then like can you imagineeeee mann MANNNN!!!!!!! btw guys I'll be so real I never hated Leggy, I do just like characters that are lowkey kinda minions, like uh. Bibble from barbie fairy movies, love that guy.
ALSO. CAN WE TALK ABOUT JUST HOW....... the animation has been so so full of personality like in such a soul reaching way, like with some of the scenes I was sitting there noticing all the small parts in it, the pauses and the soft movement that carries so much in it, like a sort of gentleness and I was in AWE man it's my FAVOURITE THING!!!! I love you smg4 animators, I wish they all would get paid extra extra extra, they need their flowers and monies extra style for that banger
and the fact that despite that, I still remember laughing at some stuff, though Idk what it was at this point? Also of course inappropriate time laughs when WPNZ started to beat Puzzles up and I heard the glass breaking noise and I think the speed of it all made it hilarious enough to make me laugh a bit because it was beautifull absurd and so so divorcey at the same time
oh yeah also the death cube being sent into the sky I also remember made me laugh. In general the physical comedy does tend to be high quality in this show with gooood timing and tension in between things happening
btw absolutely loved 4's small arc of "why are you doing this Meggy" to "You tried and that's all that matters" is crazy, and. kind of fitting on how he had been, very 2 ends of what he is, though that is not to say that he wasn't genuine, not what I'm saying. Just incredibly fitting to how he had been
also I have little idea on . what's going on with 3 and how he left, I wonder if we'll learn more about that? possibility that probably not since this wasn't about him but one can dream. I do like 3 episodes............ CEO of Rizz, you are still awesome
well anyways I loved the movie if it wasn't obvious, big time peak/10
#smg4#nicc-thinks#it has been 74 years since I used that tag...........#btw I'll still probably not appear a lot but you may have this treat if. you like reading weird rambles lolll
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I don't know if I'll make a post talking about the movie or not
I'm leaning towards yes but I'm in a really weird mindset right now and I don't want it to go into an unhinged weirdly oversharing thing which it would right now
i've barely been posting, I can't just like, go apeshit on yall
especially if I disappear again for like weeks like how does that even look like man??
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