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Had a dream that Taylor Swift announced she was doing a "pronoun reveal" and all the annoying swifties were losing their shit for weeks and saying "I told you so" and then Taylor just tweeted "she/her"
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chucks got a lot of transphobes riled up today so i should probably add: there are infinite genders including no gender at all and no matter how much devils seethe and cry and gnash their teeth this will not change. thats just scientific fact SORRY DEVILS im a doctor
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bat at hornets nest maybe but "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" refers to low income communities needing to choose between survival vs being eco friendly. not you continuing to watch the harry potter movies
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sick-thing (the "not my problem" post) supports mspec lesbians so it's not a surprise they have such brain worms lol
oh lmaoooo i am not shocked tbh
like i totally get that being a lesbian ? fucking slaps so hard . being bi ? incredibly cool?
but being both. you cannot. it is simply not possible. we are allies but not the same and what makes us different is as important as what unites us
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i think one of my problems w the term “allo” is that it literally serves no purpose. it’s not a sexuality. “allosexual” isn’t an identity. it’s very clearly an attempt to create an ace version of “heterosexual” but that’s the thing. is that heterosexuality is a sexuality. asexuality is a sexuality. bisexuality is a sexuality. allosexuality… isn’t. someone who isn’t ace is some other sexuality and the word “allosexual” has no practical use.
people identify as ace or demi or gay or whatever sexuality they are but no one identifies as allo in the same way someone identifies as straight or cis. it’s a pointless term that creates a weird axis that doesn’t exist
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that melodramatic-ass post about how exclus destroyed ace communities and are the reason their dumbass card/dragon/cake terminology didn't catch on is making the rounds again and I've just gotta say.
(a) "Cake ace" or whatever the fuck is not anywhere near as historically and culturally significant as terms like butch or femme, for example, and it's ridiculous to pretend those things are the same kind of term or on the same level of significance
(b) if your entire community and history can be erased by lgbt people online saying you're not inherently lgbt, while lgbt culture can survive decades upon decades of political and legal oppression, maybe you have a weak fucking community that apparently depends entirely on lgbt people carrying you
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really not keen about the alternating infantilisation of lgbt ppl (the word enbys, useless lesbians, uwu soft trans boys, guys gals and nonbinary pals)
and hypersexualision (top/bottom becoming the new 'whos the girl', being bi is somehow abt being sex and genital obsessed, being 'pure ace unlike those gross allos' (never talking specifically abt straight ppl), transwomen being seem as a fetish and not as people)
both of these show how lgbt peoples relationships w sex and themselves have been warped by our lgbt-phobic society
ace people butting their heads in with weird, out of touch, and incorrect ideas about sex and sexual attraction is not going to be helpful or healthy for anyone
sexual attraction includes wanting to have sex, and if you do not want to have sex, you are either ''allo'' or should not be having sex
destroy the idea that you can have sex with someone you arent sexually attracted to (in a relationship context, this doesn't include work transactions)
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you : i will promote things that cause and are based on homophobia.
other ppl presumably: thats ,,, homophobic
you : not my problem
Literally so many exclusionist arguments are just... internalized homophobia that isn’t our problem, and so many criticisms of our terms and us as an entirety is the same shit like
You identified as ace when you were younger cause you had internalized homophobia and didn’t accept that you were gay? Not our problem
Someone is using the split attraction model to avoid being “entirely” gay due to internalized homophobia? Not our problem
You hear “allo” and interpret a term that just means you experience sexual attraction to mean “disgusting filthy gay” due to your internalized homophobia? Not our problem
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Honestly, ace discourse wouldn’t exist if people were capable of understanding that every single person on the fucking planet not only has a DIFFERENT relationship to sex/relationships/attraction as everyone else but also a COMPLICATED relationship to sex/relationships/attraction. Every single person! Yes, even the privileged ones.
Because we live in a society that demands sex as much as it punishes it. That both glorifies and demonizes sex. Sex is only good within very specific contexts but if you don’t like those contexts or act within them, suddenly you are perverse and wrong. Even people with healthy relationships to sex, relationships, and attraction still face pitfalls that complicate matters–partners who don’t have healthy relationships or maybe they can’t get a partner at all. Break ups. Factors that affect their libidos or interest in relationships. Periods where sex and romance don’t matter at all because something else is a priority.
And of course, your gender, sexual orientation, race, class, and every other identity impacts not just YOUR relationship to sex and all that but also everyone ELSE’S relationship and response to your sex, relationships, attraction. And the identities of the people you are and aren’t attracted to impacts that too! From the race of your partner to same gender relationships to people who prefer fat partners to whatever the fuck else… all of this impacts the complications around sex, relationships, and attraction.
And yet it is only people on the ace and aro “spectrums” who are obsessed with pretending their relationships to these things are wholly unique or special. That they have created new social classes. They are obsessed with feeling different because they think there is some homogeneous relationship to sex and love that the rest of the world is partaking in that they are somehow excluded from. When really everyone has something complicated from, their own hyper specific contexts where they do or don’t want sex or love or whatever.
Nothing about your relationship to sex or love makes you more or less LGBT. If you are gay and don’t want to have sex, ever, you are still gay. If you are cisgender and straight and only feel capable of sexual desire for longterm monogamous partners and even then, you only want to fuck on Tuesday mornings and Friday nights.. you’re still straight. You haven’t discovered a new class of heterosexuality that is “queer’ or different. Rather, EVERY person who is heterosexual is different in how they perform or experiecne it. You are the same in your difference. A cishet who doesn’t ever want sex because of trauma is no more or less cishet than one who wants sex all the time because of trauma or a cishet who doesn’t ever want sex because they don’t feel sexual attraction or whatever else.
Gayness, straightness, and bisexuality are not defined by HOW you do or don’t want sex or HOW you do or don’t want to date, it’s just defined by WHO you want to be with. There are infinite ways for HOW you can gay, straight, or bi and none of them are separate identities.
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TV show: This is a TV show called Shits&Farts. It is about shits, & farts. The main characters are two men named Shit, & Fart. They tell shit & fart jokes to each other for the whole twenty-minute runtime.
at least one person you follow on tumblr, instantly: omfg im WITHERING from last nights ep….. the dynamic between shit & fart is so fucking tense and erotic……im still fucking sobbing i hate my sweet babies….. why do they treat each other like this im fucking BATHING IN ACID….. its so good…….. im EMBALMING MYSELF and then DESECRATING MY OWN CORPSE…..
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wtf is blaze ?? also hi im back on my bullshit whats happening in discourse
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Stop saying theres a link between pro ship and inclus. if you actually used your brain youd understand the reason you see some people who are inclusionists being pro ship is because ace discourse and shipping discourse exist on the same websites and so of course some of those opinions are going to overlap for some people. There are just as many exclus proshippers. Stop reinventing homophobia to try and imply asexuals are pedophiles
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, while what youve pointed out (proximity) is indeed a factor another factor in 'proship' (pre pedo shit) and inclus venn diagram is literally the idea that everything is okay a. with the right wording and b. if its someones identity. identity is important yes, and is self determined but its also not as infallible as people seem to think
putting people feeling 'valid' above anything else is important to both arms of argument.
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You're literally a TERF.
like literally? literally literally 💅? or figuratively because you want me to seem worse than I am in order to bolster ur argument ?
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People nowadays are so caught up in the idea that the LGBT community is about inclusivity and that all labels are valid that they forget this isn’t what the community is about. Sometimes it’s good to draw lines in the sand. Bi lesbians don’t exist. Like, you’re either bi or a lesbian but both of those things exclude each other (but that doesn’t mean that there can’t be or aren’t overlapping experiences). Pansexual is just another word for bisexual except now you’re being biphobic (and transphobic and homophobic) about it. Gen Z kids having a dozen microlabels does nothing except make this about individualism instead of a community, it negates the fact that everyone has differing experiences but that we can still unite under one banner.
The validity of something isn’t a measurement worth considering when it comes to being LGBT because at this point anyone can be ~valid~ and that’s where the conversation shuts down. If a label is “valid” then any criticism leveraged towards it will be met with a wall of “but x is valid so this doesn’t matter,” no matter how rightful, no matter how well-meant. It isn’t about whether or not x identity is valid or whether y should/should not be included, because that’s not what the community is about. Questions like those only benefit corporations during pride month to start selling more to us using increasingly specific flags, it’s only to divide the community and hyperfocuses on individuality above anything else.
It is part of a bigger problem here, the commodification of identity and the self because of late-stage capitalism goes hand in hand with distancing yourself from others and any similarity & community you could share with them. The complexities of your own experiences with relation to gender and sexuality will always be unique to you. A lesbian who grew up closeted in a deeply homophobic household in London will have different experiences and views than an openly proud lesbian in Hong Kong. This doesn’t mean either of them are any less of a lesbian, nor does it mean that either of them need to label themselves with some hyperspecific microlabel that “better fits” their circumstances and the way they experience attraction etc.
The LGBT community is a community for a reason, it is about how we are connected through our struggles, through our shared marginalization, through our understanding of, solidarity for, each other. Making it out to be about “inclusivity” when that’s more a buzzword along the lines of “diversity” for suit-clad executives to circlejerk over, or about how “valid” any given identity is, is to lose sight of that. It is to derail the conversation about community and sameness to talk about individuality.
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I genuinely want Harry Potter to go obsolete. Like I want Universal Studios to have to close down the HP section cause no one goes anymore. I want TV stations to stop playing it because no one watches the marathons anymore. I want bookstores to stop carrying it because it's no longer in demand. I want to go on ao3 and see that the most recent work was a year ago because the fandom is dead. I want people to forget what ravenclaw and hufflepuff mean (I also want to wear my school tie without being asked if I'm a gryffindor). I want people to see emma watson and name every other work she's done. I want people to look back and cringe and be like yeah I was into that as a kid, embarrassing i know. I genuinely hope and pray for the collapse of the entire Harry Potter franchise and I'd throw a party the day it happens.
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