"Angels like you can't fly down hell with me."
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If my disappearance makes you happy, I will disappear. I will always love you, nevertheless.
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please stop gnawing at me
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chat with a stranger
[7:43 PM] ttd29: Tell me more about him
[7:43 PM] ttd29: What is it that you like so much about this guy who doesnt respond to your needs?
[7:43 PM] Theodore: ok so we met by playing dota2 together
[7:44 PM] Theodore: he was a very nice guy who didn't scold me for feeding the enemies
[7:44 PM] ttd29: Ok great start
[7:44 PM] Theodore: so for some reason i asked him his fb and we started to become friends
[7:45 PM] Theodore: at the time i was dating a girl
[7:45 PM] Theodore: i sent a few memes to him
[7:45 PM] Theodore: u know, from r/suddenlygay, etc
[7:46 PM] ttd29: Wait you’re bi?
[7:46 PM] Theodore: you can say so...
[7:46 PM] ttd29: Lol interesting
[7:46 PM] ttd29: Anyway go on
[7:47 PM] Theodore: i usually go by being gay in order to avoid surprise moments like this
[7:47 PM] Theodore: anyway
[7:47 PM] Theodore: we got closer and closer
[7:48 PM] Theodore: i even asked him how to kiss a girl before i got that girl
[7:48 PM] Theodore: then one day he was comfortable enof to admit that he's bi
[7:49 PM] Theodore: and i eventually dumped my ex-gf bc i was an asshole
[7:50 PM] Theodore: in my defense i felt tired to fake my masculinity
[7:50 PM] ttd29: No need to defend yourself
[7:50 PM] ttd29: At least you didnt cheat
[7:50 PM] Theodore: then a few days later i met him in a coffee shop
[7:50 PM] Theodore: that was our first meeting
[7:51 PM] Theodore: and we started hanging out more often
[7:51 PM] Theodore: after 2 meetings, we became boyfriends
[7:53 PM] Theodore: ok after this point there was no major event
[7:53 PM] Theodore: he also gave me a book 'call me by ur name'
[7:53 PM] ttd29: How long did you guys date?
[7:54 PM] Theodore: in the book, he signed "you're the best thing that ever happened to me"
[7:54 PM] Theodore: the book has been given away to one of my friends
[7:55 PM] Theodore: i can go on about how disgusting that book is but maybe another time
[7:55 PM] Theodore: (not his fault, Andre aciman's fault)
[7:55 PM] Theodore: then i took a 6-month exchange study
[7:55 PM] Theodore: so we maintained our communication online
[7:56 PM] Theodore: after getting back to vn, we went out together again
[7:56 PM] Theodore: then we had arguments about this and that, i remember i was a pretty rude guy and i raised my tone a lot of times....
[7:57 PM] Theodore: must've been tiring for him to go thru all that
[7:58 PM] Theodore: at the peak of the conflict, one day we were arguing about something i dont remember but pretty sure i started first
[7:58 PM] Theodore: he left in the middle of the convo to play video games
[7:58 PM] Theodore: which i was very angry and sad
[7:59 PM] Theodore: but he also quit the match to talk to me
[7:59 PM] Theodore: and u know, i was not a considerate person, i usually started a fight and made a fuss about anything
[8:00 PM] Theodore: and when im stressed, i write a lot
[8:00 PM] Theodore: and when i write a lot, whoever read it gets stressed too
[8:01 PM] Theodore: ok i see u went offline lol, prolly u got stressed too
[8:02 PM] ttd29: Lol relax
[8:03 PM] ttd29: I just took a shower
[8:04 PM] ttd29: And then after that what happened?
[8:05 PM] Theodore: wait me, i need to finish the monstrosity i cooked
[8:06 PM] ttd29: =)))))
[8:06 PM] ttd29: Oke
[8:20 PM] Theodore: ok so at one point i just straight up told him dont talk to me anymore
[8:20 PM] Theodore: which i very regret til this day
[8:21 PM] Theodore: after that text, he never answered me again
[8:21 PM] Theodore: he didn't respond to anything
[8:21 PM] Theodore: basically he ghosted me
[8:21 PM] ttd29: For a year???
[8:22 PM] Theodore: yes
[8:22 PM] Theodore: i had been through a lot of confusion, anger, self hate, regret, depression, you name it
[8:22 PM] ttd29: And he never talked to you again until now?
[8:23 PM] Theodore: i kept messaging him for months, until July last year i told him this would be my last text (it wasn't), which he also didnt read
[8:24 PM] Theodore: and a few days ago my depression hit me so bad i had to bring up that shit again
[8:24 PM] Theodore: this time i talked with a mutual friend of us
[8:25 PM] Theodore: along the lines i told my fren that 'the only reason i haven't commit suicide is because my mom would be sad if i did'
[8:25 PM] Theodore: my fren told my ex that i wanted to commit suicide...
[8:25 PM] Theodore: -.-
[8:25 PM] ttd29: Quào
[8:25 PM] ttd29: Okay
[8:26 PM] ttd29: Great friend
[8:26 PM] ttd29: =))
[8:26 PM] ttd29: After that then what happened
[8:27 PM] Theodore: anyway, i also sent him a few words that said 'i dont understand how things went wrong but im sure whatever my mistakes are, i am not deserved to be ghosted for a year like this'
[8:27 PM] Theodore: after i filed a request to delete my fb account
[8:27 PM] Theodore: so i told my fren find some way to make him read my last message before the account got deleted completely
[8:28 PM] Theodore: actually he completed what i asked him to do, but the way he did it was a bit questionable wasn't it
[8:28 PM] Theodore: in some way, he distorted what i said about suicide
[8:29 PM] ttd29: Yeah that was totally not cool
[8:29 PM] Theodore: anyway, my ex sent me an email to apologize bc i blocked him on all media
[8:29 PM] Theodore: before i received the email, i felt like i was reborn
[8:30 PM] Theodore: that i could finally give up the past and move on to the new chapter
[8:30 PM] Theodore: but then... the email =.=
[8:30 PM] Theodore: i just wanted him to read, i didn't want an answer anymore
[8:30 PM] Theodore: it is too late for an answer
[8:31 PM] Theodore: anyway i got stressed again and my emails sent to him got longer and longer
[8:32 PM] Theodore: he eventually responded that he was super tired with this way of talking of mine and that's one of the reasons he gave up the relationship
[8:32 PM] Theodore: i guess he had a point, i sometimes feel like im overdramatic about things
[8:32 PM] Theodore: and yes when im stressed i'd write a lot and talk a lot
[8:32 PM] ttd29: Yeah well
[8:33 PM] ttd29: Now where are you guys?
[8:33 PM] ttd29: Still exchanging emails?
[8:33 PM] Theodore: so fast forward a few emails, i got friendlier and finally connected to him on discord
[8:34 PM] Theodore: i dont really use discord but im not ready to reconnect with him on any other platform
[8:34 PM] Theodore: so this is the choice
[8:35 PM] ttd29: And you guys are talking normally now?
[8:35 PM] Theodore: i guess??? idk, i dont feel that way
[8:35 PM] Theodore: but, as i said, his mom is going thru cancer treatment
[8:35 PM] Theodore: so he must be very busy and, in his words, he did not have the mental capacity for this
[8:36 PM] Theodore: so yeah, although i really want to get back, i still feel like im chasing him
[8:36 PM] ttd29: Okay got it
[8:37 PM] Theodore: id been already texting to a ghost for almost a year, now i still have to try to get his attention
[8:37 PM] Theodore: but
[8:37 PM] Theodore: i cant blame him because who knows what his situation right now
[8:37 PM] ttd29: Was about to ask why do you want to get back together but realize that’s a redundant question lol
[8:38 PM] Theodore: here
[8:38 PM] Theodore: also cuz he's cute so it's not that easy :frowning:
[8:38 PM] ttd29: =)))
[8:38 PM] ttd29: Lol
[8:39 PM] ttd29: Cute guys are abundant out there waiting for you
[8:39 PM] ttd29: Anyway
[8:39 PM] Theodore: just enjoy my awkward humor amidst a stressful story
[8:39 PM] ttd29: I kind of understand what you’re going through
[8:39 PM] ttd29: Enough to know that you wont be rational right now lol
[8:39 PM] Theodore: ...
[8:39 PM] Theodore: thats disappointing
[8:40 PM] ttd29: If i tell you he’s not the right guy for you, would you suddenly stop wanting him?
[8:40 PM] ttd29: I don’t think so
[8:41 PM] Theodore: that's what u think
[8:41 PM] Theodore: this afternoon u said something that was quite impressing
[8:41 PM] Theodore: but now it's not cuz i forgot
[8:41 PM] ttd29: :slight_smile:
[8:41 PM] ttd29: I said
[8:41 PM] ttd29: It’s okay to miss someone
[8:42 PM] Theodore: here
[8:42 PM] ttd29: But you need to be rational enough to know whether they are good for you
[8:42 PM] ttd29: That’s the more important part of the equation
[8:43 PM] Theodore: it's so pity to give up such a beautiful story like that, i literally could turn it into a wattpad series which makes fangirls cry out every night
[8:43 PM] Theodore: what we had together was so romantic and any relationship which came after was incomparable
[8:44 PM] ttd29: This right here my fren
[8:44 PM] ttd29: Is why every relationship comes after are not comparable
[8:45 PM] ttd29: You havent fully dealt with your shit yet so everyone else are just rebounds
[8:45 PM] ttd29: You think they would cure you, but you need to cure yourself first
[8:45 PM] Theodore: i never found any friends that were so compatible with me like him, let alone a lover
[8:46 PM] Theodore: for real, if i had great friends, i could have just turned to my friends and never given a shit about him
[8:46 PM] Theodore: but i've always been a lonely person
[8:47 PM] ttd29: Do you ever think
[8:47 PM] ttd29: You’re so consumed by your pain, that you’re not letting your friends in?
[8:47 PM] Theodore: ive been always like this since kindergarten
[8:48 PM] ttd29: Like what?
[8:48 PM] Theodore: alone
[8:49 PM] ttd29: Lol it’s all connected together now
[8:50 PM] ttd29: You’re always alone. So once you found someone who cares, you put wayyy too much pressure on that person to care for you
[8:50 PM] Theodore: wow
[8:50 PM] ttd29: So they cracked
[8:51 PM] ttd29: Yeah
[8:51 PM] ttd29: At least that’s the vibe I got from our conversations
[8:52 PM] ttd29: And then you never really let anyone in to care for you after that person left.
[8:52 PM] ttd29: I’m sure your friends really care about you. But you don’t tell them how they can help you so they must be frustrated as well
[8:52 PM] ttd29: Hence the suicidal distortion thingy
[8:53 PM] ttd29: Maybe they were concerned and wanted to help, but didnt know how to
[8:54 PM] Theodore: hmmm
[8:54 PM] Theodore: w8 me, im on a phone call w mum
[8:54 PM] Theodore: brb
[8:54 PM] ttd29: Oke
[9:12 PM] Theodore: you are right about the whole thing
[9:12 PM] Theodore: i wouldn't say i didn't let anyone care me after he left
[9:13 PM] Theodore: it's just hard for me to connect with someone on that deep level
[9:13 PM] Theodore: i used to be quite clingy around friends who i found compatible with me
[9:14 PM] Theodore: but at the end of the day, i think it's important to know that they also have their own lives
[9:14 PM] Theodore: so i dont really have friends anymore, cuz i feel like im bothering them
[9:15 PM] ttd29: What is this deep level that you were able to connect with the guy?
[9:15 PM] Theodore: yeah i have best friends here and there but i dont find myself comfortable as i was with my ex
[9:17 PM] Theodore: he's both a best friend and a lover; we shared a lot of hobbies and favorite topics, ... and also i felt like he would always be there to lend me an ear, unlike a normal friend
[9:17 PM] Theodore: which has been proved to be incorrect lol
[9:17 PM] ttd29: Sounds like you need a hug lol
[9:18 PM] Theodore: i really appreciate that u are staying here to listen to me
[9:18 PM] Theodore: and u gave some very interesting insights that no one else did
[9:18 PM] Theodore: prolly becuz they didn't care enof, or they just wanted to quickly conclude my problems so they could go to sleep
[9:19 PM] ttd29: Haha i’m flattered
[9:19 PM] ttd29: Idk you just sound like you really need to talk this out
[9:20 PM] Theodore: and now that we're connected on discord, i kept getting mixed signals from him
[9:20 PM] ttd29: I believe being able to talk about our problems always help
[9:20 PM] Theodore: i'm a bit obsessed to discord recently and i found myself waiting for a dm from him
[9:20 PM] Theodore: :neutral_face:
[9:21 PM] ttd29: You know what your problem is?
[9:21 PM] Theodore: i dont want to... you know... after all the shit ive been thru, i now have to continue waiting for him
[9:21 PM] ttd29: You never really get a full closure from him
[9:22 PM] ttd29: I mean he just ghosted you out of the blue. Then he only came back and apologized when he thought you were going to committ suicide
[9:22 PM] Theodore: yes, please continue
[9:22 PM] ttd29: You never got a sincere apology
[9:23 PM] Theodore: you are right...
[9:23 PM] ttd29: That’s why you’re so hung up
[9:23 PM] ttd29: And you got your own problems to fix to
[9:23 PM] ttd29: Starting from your “clinginess”
[9:24 PM] ttd29: He’s not going to fix that problem for you
[9:24 PM] ttd29: And if you guys got back together, you will eventually break up again, because the root of the problem was never resolved
[9:24 PM] Theodore: you are right
[9:25 PM] ttd29: I don’t want to tell you what to do. But you surely deserve an in-person, sincere apology from him, for leaving you in the worst way possible
[9:26 PM] Theodore: i suppose
[9:26 PM] Theodore: but he's in an emotional distress, so i cant really blame him, or expect anything from him
[9:26 PM] Theodore: im thinking about ending this come-back plan from my side
[9:27 PM] Theodore: i think he wont give a shit lol, because he also said we would still break up if none of us changed
[9:28 PM] ttd29: Yeah so if he is aware of that
[9:28 PM] Theodore: i really thought i had improved myself as a person after all the regret, but now that we found out that i still have a tendency to cling to people i care about and that makes them suffocated
[9:28 PM] ttd29: And if he really did love you and respect you enough, he would understand you need this, Theodore.
[9:29 PM] ttd29: This is your problem that you need to work on improving
[9:29 PM] Theodore: need what? an apology?
[9:29 PM] ttd29: Yes
[9:29 PM] ttd29: A sincere apology
[9:29 PM] ttd29: Not an “i only apologize because i think you’re going to commit suicide”
[9:30 PM] Theodore: you are right, the moment i knew that was the reason he apologized, i was shocked and disappointed
[9:30 PM] Theodore: shall i keep waiting for anything from him?
[9:30 PM] ttd29: Just text him that
[9:31 PM] Theodore: no, i dont want to
[9:31 PM] ttd29: :))) if i were there, I would snatch the phone from you and text him myself
[9:31 PM] Theodore: u seem like a cool friend to be around :))
[9:31 PM] ttd29: You said he was mature enough to know it’s not a good idea to get back together
[9:32 PM] ttd29: So be it
[9:32 PM] ttd29: But he must admit he was wrong
[9:32 PM] ttd29: Wrong to treat you like that
[9:32 PM] Theodore: i also asked him for an in-person meeting but he declined becuz he's busy with his mom
[9:33 PM] Theodore: i think it will take a long time for him to get over that, and by that time he will have forgotten about me probably lol
[9:33 PM] ttd29: Or via text, or via email or whatever.
[9:33 PM] ttd29: Get him to apologize sincerely
[9:34 PM] Theodore: he did apologize me multiple times
[9:34 PM] ttd29: Okay fine
[9:34 PM] ttd29: If you’re think they’re sincere then they are
[9:34 PM] Theodore: even on discord, one time he asked me how i was doing and i told him about my depression and he apologized
[9:34 PM] ttd29: But if they are not then you should get one
[9:34 PM] ttd29: Omg no that’s not sincere
[9:34 PM] ttd29: :slight_smile:
[9:34 PM] Theodore: ??? its not
[9:35 PM] Theodore: how do i know
[9:35 PM] ttd29: Why must his apology always be connected to your mental state
[9:35 PM] Theodore: he's not capable of writing dancing words like me
[9:35 PM] Theodore: idk??
[9:35 PM] Theodore: so it's not sincere...
[9:36 PM] ttd29: A sincere apology should be when you guys are both in normal state
[9:36 PM] ttd29: And you know that he’s really sorry for what he did
[9:37 PM] ttd29: Not just because he thinks saying sorry would make you not depressed/want to commit suicide/etc
[9:37 PM] Theodore: got it
[9:37 PM] Theodore: aww fren thanks for helping me realize it
[9:38 PM] Theodore: maybe i still have feelings for him and want us to be back so i did put the bar quite low for an apology
[9:38 PM] ttd29: Lol I need to consider becoming a mental therapy
[9:39 PM] ttd29: Yeah to be frank I don’t think getting back together is a good idea
[9:39 PM] ttd29: You need to deal with your emotional baggage first
[9:39 PM] Theodore: okay
[9:39 PM] Theodore: so no waiting for him
[9:39 PM] ttd29: Yeah!!!!
[9:39 PM] ttd29: Work on yourself
[9:40 PM] Theodore: ok...
[9:40 PM] Theodore: haizzz...
[9:40 PM] Theodore: such a beautiful story
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just realize that being gay means i have to date men
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so my ex and i are getting along well lately...
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when you can’t give up what’s killing you and what’s making you sad because it was the only thing that made you feel truly happy
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what am i thinking, we are never ever getting back together
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It's been two years since the end of Game of Thrones and I have not gotten over it yet
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it’s ironic how i could not give up the person who turned on me, hurt me, left me
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not to brag but my depression hasn’t gotten any better
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remember, if next time he initiates a conversation, that’s a green light
otherwise, i should forget about him
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if we could not be life partners, i’d appreciate if we could make a mature decision to stay as good friends
like my mom would say, “one more friend, one less enemy”
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i deleted my facebook account and soon all my messages with him will be gone, i feel like i finally could escape the past
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so my ex finally texted me back after a year of ghosting
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Depression hit me last night and I texted my ex again. He ghosted me a year ago and I still couln't get over it.
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i wish i could cast this spell...
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