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EIGHT(ish) DAYS until the Adventure Time Finale! Admin Jackie @cupboardgods is counting us up with ~daily drawings from each season of the show.

Here’s season 3′s Holly Jolly Secrets Part II

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Betty has reincarnated and it’s tearing me up

She literally rides off on a bus titled ‘comet’ (shoutout to discountsnowmeiser on discord for using the enchiridion cipher to figure that out) and then at the end credit these geometric shapes that seem to reflect the geometric nature of golb morph together into an apple with a bow on it, a motif we’ve seen associated with Betty since You Forgot Your Floaties and we see her body changing and morphing when simon is flying away from her. she’s moved on and her wish of keeping Simon safe is fulfilled now that Simon isn’t a danger to himself.

which made me think again about this end credit image

what’s the significance with apples???

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Finn's children, Jay and Bonnie -- we've seen them before!

Finn has two children, Jay and Bonnie, with Rosalinen in season five's "Puhoy." Jay and Bonnie are also the names of two of Farmworld Finn's children in Fionna and Cake "Destiny". [Clip]

"Puhoy" was an important episode for us theorists back in the day. It foreshadowed the loss of Finn's arm and featured the first appearance of GOLB. In this episode, Finn dies of old age in the pillow world, harmlessly bounces off of GOLB's tongue, and reawakens in Ooo as a kid again.

The pillow world, be it a dream or a pocket dimension, is certainly not Ooo. It operates as it's own world with a unique history and landscape.

In "Puhoy", we can surmise that Finn named his children after his memories of Jake and Princess Bubblegum. It's unclear exactly where the names came from in Farmworld/"Destiny". We also don't know the identity of the mother of Farmworld Finn's children.

Here are Jay and Bonnie as children (pictured here with an adult Finn and Roselinen)...

And as teens resembling their counterparts in F+C's "Destiny" (with elderly Finn and Rosalinen).

And finally, Jay and Bonnie as seen in Fionna and Cake "Destiny".

With only eight currently released episodes of Fionna and Cake, it will be interesting to see what other callbacks to the main series remain. Our knowledge of GOLB has certainly changed a lot since his first appearance back in season five.

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My Fionna and Cake game theory is that Simon Petrikov becomes Wishmaster so he can be a God of the Cosmos with the love of his life

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Is Jake dead? Fionna and Cake ep.4

I think that the clear implication that the first four episodes of Fionna & Cake has given us is that yes, by this point in the story, Jake has died.

Our estimation based on Finn's current design is that it's been 15+ years since the finale.

Finn and TV talk about Jake's love for the Fionna and Cake books in the past tense. "He loved that series"

Bearded, depressed Prismo watches video of Finn and Jake, and Prismo tells Fionna and Cake that Ooo is special because it "had [his] favorite guy" (implied Jake)

F&C-era Finn has the Jake chest tattoo that was seen in Obsidian (which has been widely interpreted as an in memoriam gesture). But, importantly: Prismo's flashback at the beginning of F&C ep3 shows Jake and the chest tattoo coexisting simultaneously. So what gives? What do we know?

The circumstances of Jake's death are unknown--just, in Together Again it's confirmed that Jake's death preceded Finn's death, when Finn was an old, old man.

We're going to observe Finn's known designs in an attempt to narrow down at what point in the narrative Jake dies. Between Adventure Time and Obsidian? Between Obsidian and Fionna & Cake? After?

AT finale end credits montage: Finn and Jake welcome ships of humans to Ooo.

Obsidian: bearded but skinny Finn shows up to help out PB. The Jake tattoo is here.

Fionna & Cake flashback: medium beefiness, hair contained

Fionna & Cake modern age: buff boy fullbeard, full-Mertens mane.

And then there's Together Again, death-aged Finn.

With that established, let's return to what very little we know about Jake's death. The first scene of Together Again, features a monster-induced hallucination where Finn loses Jake "again". Curiously, Finn's design in this sequence is his familiar teenaged design from the main series.

So, with teenaged Finn losing Jake "again," should we conclude that Jake died while Finn was teenaged? No. It's a mistake to take Finn's appearance in this sequence at face value. For starters, Finn has both arms here. This is old Finn's nightmare, and in order for him to feel the pain of losing Jake again, it's required that he thinks he's experiencing a time in his life that he and Jake coexisted.

The "Not again" line is preceded by a quick flash to old Finn's actual face and surroundings. Old Finn is the one saying "not again", scrambling to hold onto the dream of hanging out with Jake in his youth. It doesn't mean that Finn was that age when Jake died. His arm is proof this sequence can't be taken at face value. Jake outlived Finn's arm. We know this.

Our next piece of evidence that Jake died before the events of Fionna & Cake is the existence of the Jake tattoo. But, again, Prismo's flashback at the beginning of F&C ep3 shows Jake and the tattoo coexisting.

Soooo........? Is the tattoo not actually a memorial tattoo? I'm pretty sure that events played on Prismo's screen are just straight up supposed to be taken at face value. The scenes are totally divorced from the linear timeline. In ep 4, when Prismo says Ooo is special because it "had" his favorite guy, we see this scene with Jake and teenaged Finn. This is clearly the past.

The evidence would seem to suggest that Jake dies somewhere before Obsidian. Finn got the memorial tattoo. He never appeared again. Everyone talks about him in the past tense.

But there's that one pesky scene on Prismo's screen where he's alive during Finn's 20-somethings, concurrent with the tattoo.

So I will posit a few theories to you:

No body, no death. Jake is alive. He's living in a different universe now and that's why Prismo says Ooo "had" his favorite guy. Now Jake lives in the Crystal Dimension with Lady Rainicorn but can return to Ooo from time to time. Remember: rainicorns are native to the Crystal Dimension. We've even pointed out previously a pretty undisputed fan theory that Crystal Dimension rainicorn pup descendants were featured in Graybles 1000+. It makes sense that Jake would seek a future there. And I don't think it's out of character that Finn would get that tattoo as a sign of devotion to Jake when Jake makes that big decision to set off on his own. Jake will die later.

Jake has become displaced from time and had an unspecified number of adventures in future eras. (i.e. Jake is extracted from the timeline before Obsidian and presumed dead, but then appears sporadically at other times throughout Finn's life, like in the scene shown on Prismo's screen). @uncivilizedelk posted a video analyzing the F&C intro and concludes that time shenanigans are probably incoming.

Theory 3 would be that Jake died via normal means after the scene on Prismo's screen but before the events of Fionna & Cake. And I'm sorry, but I don't buy it.

The whole thing screams red herrings and misdirections. I'd wager Jake appears alive at some point during this series in a large fan-pleaser moment.

Jake's death has been foreshadowed in this series for so long I just cannot imagine they'd let us off easy and have him die offscreen. We'll see it someday. Some way.

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Prismo the Wishmaster Time Room concept drawings by supervising director Steve Wolfhard

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Ask box is open!

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An apology

To the guy who came to our panel years ago and asked, "Do you think Fionna and Cake are real in an alternate universe?" and I responded something like, "Sure, but that doesn't matter because there are infinite universes. Like technically I'm in an alternate universe in Adventure Time."

You were right, dude! You called it! You predicted Adventure Time: Fionna and Cake like 8 years ago. I'm sorry I killed your question back then.

I don't think we could have known where the series was going at that time. I mean like, Fionna and Cake WAS pure fanservice back then. An unexpected hit. But as of right now, you're totally correct. Cheers to the return of Adventure Time!

--Jackie

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sup guys. been following you guys since mid 2010’s when adventure time was its peak. and now that it’s back have you guys considered running the blog/be more active again? w new fionna and cake episodes coming up i’m sure it’ll answer old theories and create new ones. would love to hear back from you guys !

I think so! We're all still good friends (two of us are getting married this year lol) and we've talked about being active again. I think we'll put out some content with the new episodes soon. Thank you for the really kind message!

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References and stuff in the new Fionna and Cake trailer!

I'm not going to do any speculation about the plot, I just want to take a look at the various characters and hidden details that are present in the trailer!

Magic Woman's hat on a hotel sign.

BMO-style alarm clock.

Gunter statues outside the aquarium.

Human Marshall Lee.

Genderbent and humanised Ash, Wildberry Prince, and Hot Dog Prince.

Human Gumball.

Abracadanielle on the right. Not sure who the other people in this scene are, any help is appreciated.

This is the Islands I think! The architecture and fashion matches up. There are a few shots in this location.

Lumpy Space Prince!

Magical anime girl Fionna?? Presumably from the Fionna and Cake television show in the "real world".

Simon! Presumably upset because shaving is reminding him of what it was like to be the Ice King. The other shot of Simon in a bathroom is probably the same scene.

Ooozers from Simon & Marcy.

More "real world" Fionna and Cake media.

Simon with the crown strapped to his belt like in Simon & Marcy. Looks like we're getting more flashbacks to that era!

FINN! That is definitely Finn, he matches the design from the poster and he has his metal arm.

That looks like the non-flying squirrel from Up a Tree.

Here's the shot that got leaked in that animation reel the other day.

Redesigned Ice President from Five Short Tables maybe???

PRISMO!

TIME ROOM!

Feel free to add anything else you spotted.

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Got some speculations and thoughts out there before the series drops (at some point in autumn, according to Canada). Birds were wildin' out outside my apartment during recording; even aggressive noise cancelling couldn't get their little background babbles out of the audio track, haha. (Though I'm unsure how noticeable the calls are without being made aware of 'em.)

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by supervising director Steve Wolfhard

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ADVENTURE TIME at SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON 2023!

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WARNER BROS. TELEVISION SCREENINGS

WEDNESDAY, JULY 19th at 6:00pm – 9:30pm

Ballroom 20

Comic-Con and Warner Bros. Television proudly continue our annual Preview Night tradition featuring the world premiere of the highly anticipated series Adventure Time: Fionna and Cake, alongside all-new episodes of Riverdale and Teen Titans Go!, and screenings of Mrs. Davis and Superpowered: The DC Story.

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MAX ORIGINAL ANIMATION

THURSDAY, JULY 20th at 11:00am – 12:30pm

Ballroom 20

Max Original Animation celebrates new and returning animated series’ including an expansion in the Adventure Time universe, Adventure Time: Fionna & Cake; a new animated series, Young Love, based on the characters from Matthew A. Cherry and Sony Pictures Animation’s Oscar-winning animated short, Hair Love; and a preview of the upcoming fourth season for the fan-favorite Harley Quinn. The panel will feature exclusive sneak peeks, surprise panelists, and more. Moderated by Damian Holbrook (TV Guide magazine).

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SUPERSONIC: The 15th Annual Behind-The-Music Panel

THURSDAY, JULY 20th at 10:00am – 11:00am

Room 25ABC

Get a behind-the-scenes look at what goes into creating the scores and sounds to some of today’s most popular TV series and films. Panelists include Phil McGowan (score mixer, Star Trek: Picard), Amanda Jones (composer, American Horror Stories, ADVENTURE TIME: FIONNA & CAKE), Chris Bacon (composer, Wednesday), Sherri Chung (composer, Gremlins: Secrets of the Mogwai), Kurt Farquhar (composer, The Proud Family: Louder and Prouder), and Michael Yezerski (composer, Cabinet of Curiosities).

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What do you think about the Gumlee (Marshall Lee x Prince Gumball)? I don't know if is a little crass ask, but i was wondering it!

It's a long wait but I think you should watch the Fionna and Cake series when it premieres on HBO Max 🙂

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Sorry we’ve been inactive! We won’t be forever. Please reblog this post with your predictions for the show!

EDIT: I replaced the link! Originally I linked the Polygon article [x]

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BMO concept art by Gilles Roussel

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BMO concept art by Gilles Roussel